 My name is Michael Rand and I just hosted a session here at the conference which was sort of like a participatory session where people sort of like the internet itself. People, I opened and we talked about the issue of business models and the internet and then various people around the room including a business manager from the New York Times, a guy from a venture capital firm and then a person from a firm that is starting up sort of gave their two cents as to how business models will change as a result of the internet. And some of them had some interesting things to say including relating to some of the issues that those of you on the net, if you go to Berkman they had a whole session on how the world of the newspapers and reporting is going to change as a result of the internet. And so that's a plug for going to that session and seeing it. And one story that we had was that how even companies you think are no longer around or still around, so Friendster for example which has been superseded by MySpace and Facebook supposedly is still the 7th largest site on the internet and even one of the people got e-mail as we were saying from the president saying you know look out folks we're doing some interesting stuff in the future. So you know things are sort of an interesting synergy process that went on here.