 Hey, what's up, folks? Welcome back to another 3D Hangouts. My name is Nomura West, designer here at Adafruit. Joining me every week is Mr. Pedro. Good morning, everybody. I'm Pedro. It's Creative Tech here at Adafruit. And every week, we're here to share 3D-printed projects featuring electronics from Adafruit. That's right. This is a show we combine 3D printing and DML. I try to make inspirational projects for you folks. Welcome, everybody, to the show. We're hanging out in the Discord chat room. So we'll take a moment to greet everybody who's joining us live. If you'd like to join us live during the show, you can do so by hitting up the Discord server. The invite URL for that is discord.gg slash Adafruit. We are hanging out in all of the chat rooms. We're on Facebook, Twitch, YouTube, and, of course, the Discord. That's right. Pedro, if you would, please give a shout-out to everybody hanging out. Give a shout-out, Olympics stuff. We have all the usuals hanging out. We have Vince. 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Alright, let's go ahead and jump into last week's project. This week we wanted to spotlight the USB Trinkie with a video. It's pretty much last week's learn guide but this week we wanted to make a video for it. Yep, so we talked about this for about a month I think. It is the Neo Trinkie case a little stabilizer on here with the USB shell and of course the cap touch buttons. We went over the learn guide last week so we won't do that again and just a quick overview of the uses for the Neo Trinkie. I think Dylan is working on an injection. We inserted it into a Chromebook and it sets up all your Wi-Fi and all that for doing deployments in education. So we have a large amount of computers that need to be set up with the Wi-Fi an excellent way to have a it's called a rubber ducky. That's the product that you could purchase but you can totally DIY one with a Neo Trinkie or any of the Neo Trinkies rather the USB Trinkies that's what we're calling them. Yeah, so this one is the Neo you can do the rotary and also the slider and this one here, I don't know if we showed this one off with the Neo key which has a Cherry MX slash Kale switch. It's a bunch of these really cool single use with multiple inputs for your little quick task. Again, we also release the USB shell. So if you have more stability when you plug in your Trinkie, check out the USB shell. It's a quick 3D print with no supports. You can print them all for your Trinkies and you can wedge it into the USB port to get better fittings. That's it there. You can check out the video and of course Learn Guy and all the files for that. I had a couple of makes of these over the weekend and we have those in the community make. We'll show that off in the community. For sure. So, if folks would like to use these and create different maybe some 3D printed enclosures that are different or sort of mounting bits we do have some models for folks. So we have a 3D model of the Neo Trinkie PCB So you can check this out. We have the Rotary Trinkie as well. This one comes with a model of the Rotary encoder and the Slide Trinkie Slide Trinkie comes with a 35mm slide pot and all the lovely components on the bottom there. So check those out hitting over to our Github repo. Pedro can post a link to that in the discord and we try to promote that wherever we can. And I might as well bring it up. Oh, I can't. I don't have it locked in here. That's fine. If you go and search for Adafruit CAD parts you can pull it up there and you can find all the different parts that were added. Namely the USB Trinkies. We do have one more. This one is from Jay on JP's product pick of the week. He chose the NeoKey feather wing. So the NeoKey feather wing is a two key with two NeoPixels reverse mounted NeoPixels and they have the kale sockets so you can switch them out. You can easily pop them out and they have the right little nubs and all the little mounting bits for a bit. You can purchase it now and get the 3D model of it and the learn guide is a work in progress. But it has a STEMQT connector on it and a lot of other pinouts and things. So really, really cool feather wing and great job JP for showing it off yesterday. It was on sale for like crazy cheap. A little milk carton design. Yes, the milk carton design is something we probably will do. Alright cool. Thanks for the link there. Alright so check out that video on the NeoKey and check out that USB kind of shell if you want to make your thing a little bit tighter. Alright, let's move on to I guess this show is going to be mostly covered up with all the prototypes I've been working on. How do we start? Which one first? I don't know. Which one? Do we do the fan? Yeah, let's do the fan. Let's see an update to the USB. Yeah, so this is the smart fume extractor. Liz had this idea. Yeah, so we were testing it out and we kept running into some airflow stuff. So this is kind of the B1 version prototype of it. And while you're using it, it's because airflow and because of the placement of the sensor, the fumes tend to wrap around. It's really difficult to get a good reading from our little gas sensor. So we worked it out. How do we make the airflow directional? Yo dawg, I heard you like fans. So we put a fan on your fan. So with a little mini 5-volt fan for like a Raspberry Pi we fitted it over the gas sensor and enclosed it so that the fumes can actually kind of group together so that the sensor can actually read it. And on the back there's a little hole so that the sensor can actually escape. So this just makes it so that it definitely gets a good reading on the solder fumes. So that's kind of the update that we're working on. Yeah, so you tried adding a funnel on there which didn't quite work. So instead of having a funnel, how about you have the fan act as the funnel to suck in the air. Yeah, airflow is quite a difficult thing. You can't really see it and you can simulate it and maybe I haven't been able to simulate airflow. I think you can in certain circumstances I would really search that but Maya. Yeah, Maya. But by enclosing it by enclosing the fan and the sensor it will trap all those fumes in there so it can get a good reading and that seems to be working pretty good. In the video here you can see it sucks up the fumes and it'll push it out towards the carbon filter that's in the back there and then once it catch the reading it'll go through the fan speed because it's using PWM so the fan the knock to a fan is directly mapped to the fume so the more fumes the higher the fan speed and you can change and play around with the range too so we're still working on it but that's what we have so far for the prototype multi-layered plans it lives up to the overly complicated fume extractor name. Out of another layer of complexity but it definitely works although and I had a lot of luck without it but of course that was just the time of day probably or the way that the air was probably flying on towards it. I played around with the value just so that it would turn on but to get an actual good reading you can see the airflow is just being displaced it's just the way the airflow is and when you have a sensor in the center of a fan maybe that's not the best yeah maybe that's not the best place for it a little bit of the prototyping so we're thinking this will be ready for I think next week I think well we still need to get Lamar to prove this so we need we'll probably do the CPX Jeopardy game so let's take a look at the Jeopardy game what's that? Yeah so trying to be lining up with the pop culture of things that are going on right now there is a bunch of celebrity guests that are hosting Jeopardy so Lamar from Reading Rainbow is going to be a guest host on that so Lamar thought it would be a good idea to try to make a Jeopardy based game with CPX so your playground Blue Fruit CPV so here is the repurposed handle that was used in the Fairy Wings and what you do here is you set up the game to allow players to go so it can hold up 3 players and once you get your answer right it will glow with the appropriate color so I should probably have all of the handles match the color that will be for each player and then once you get the answer right the controller will allow you to erase that and then another tap to allow the players to chime in to what the answer is going to be so it allows you to play again and either buy a vowel or something so the way we have this all hooked up is we'll show the diagram and everything when it comes out probably next week and just a Stema speaker on there to amplify that sound which I don't think there is a sound when you tap on the button but we thought we added there just because we can so everything is going to be enclosed in this little case here this will be where the controller button will be set up in and on the inside we'll have the playground and the Stema speaker on the bottom there it's a good spot for the speaker a nice little snap fit together case with the arcade button on here and then the LODs will glow through to the translucent cover here so work in progress but nice way to have a home high jeopardy game a huge shout out to Dylan Harada who wrote the code for this and kind of I gate it with Lamar so shout out to both of them for letting us work on the 3D printed parts of it I was just saying that alligator clips won't be there they're just there for prototype votes it'll all be nice and enclosed but it's nice to show what it looks like in prototype most of the projects start off with alligator clips especially on a circuit playground blue fruit or express why Lamar wanted the cpb to be the controller for this just so you can prototype easy easily and if you don't want to go with the case you can have these just as a a nice set of wires that yeah I think folks could repurpose the code and electronics to make a bigger version of it and they can use that because circuit python you can use a different board whether it's a ESP 32 s2 for doing wifi an nrf52a40 or even an rp2040 circuit python now supports all of those gebs very cool so that is the jeopardy game yay can't wait to have fun and play with that good family time game I love making games this is the best one well not when the the children take the game a little bit too serious oh right yeah well it's a good opportunity to learn to not be a sword loser next one up that your prototyping is might turn out with some cnc cnc milling so this is the lemon keypad I'm anticipating some more cnc milling so I figured why not try to mill out some of these keycaps in some of this hardwood so I came up with a couple of different designs because I kind of failed at a couple of them so I got a couple pieces here I want to share with you folks because each failed piece is a story of its own so I guess I'll show up this one this is sort of the first fail so trying to design a stem I ran into some issues where my tool is a bit give me a sec I am not hitting the right slider I have to do that snap again okay so while trying to design a stem I came up with this bit here because I was referencing the little keypad the little kiddiepaw keypad if you take a look the way they're doing it is it has these kind of posts that kind of protrude out and they're not fully enclosed like wait sorry I didn't really rehearse this this is what you would see typically would see the stem that is fully enclosed like that but because of my tool I kind of couldn't do that so I went with this route and this works well if you are milling it out of aluminum so this is what happened to a few of my keys where these little bits just broke off so I had to rework and redo the design so instead of going with these little pillars I figured let me try to enclose it is more of a kale style stem so it fits into the stem that way so that's what I redid there and let's see so that's this one this is like the what failed on this one is the position of this is incorrect it doesn't actually match the position of this so that was kind of a fail it worked great but you forgot to update and push that up so it's more centered if it's off by a millimeter well it's not going to fit your lemon is it so that's a fail this one works okay it didn't fail but because of this I'm afraid to kind of use this because I feel like that could break off this is a walnut or perhaps it's cherry one of the two I used cherry and walnut interchangeably it's supposed to be hardwood it doesn't matter it's still broke so let's look at the next one this is another fail what's going on here why did this fail well this one failed because they didn't use enough tape the tape wasn't I just didn't use enough tape so this as it was plunging down and doing a contour it broke the piece off and you can see here that it snapped off so use enough tape that's one dip another one is to not be so aggressive in your step down when you are milling you don't want to go the max depth with the small part I figured that yeah I always go with the max depth of a millimeter cutting down with a 1 eighth inch tool but that's adding so much pressure that it could pop your piece off of your of either your jig or in this case tape so what I ended up doing was of course using more tape but also reducing the max step down from one millimeter to a half a millimeter because then it won't have so much pressure when it's plunging down into it so that's what failed here this one also failed in the same manner where it only got about that deep until the tape just gave away and it failed yeah this bit here this failed because I didn't use the correct offset so when you're doing when you're creating your tool paths and you're using different tools you kind of want to separate your g-code into individual tools so this piece requires two tools an eighth inch and a one thirty two inch the one thirty two inches a separate g-code and I just forgot one millimeter so it's not it's off centered so this doesn't work but luckily I used a scrap piece so that's why like there's these little Mars and stuff on the bottom because I actually used a scrap piece but those are my fails and I'm happy to share them with you here's some more pieces of wood this is a cherry and this is walnut you can can you tell I can't I don't know gonna have a chat here Patrick thought it was pine so no you can't tell woods yeah woods different I know but yeah maybe you can tell from the grains somehow yeah but in any manner that's a that's some some stuff there I have some footage too that I can share of the experience is more of like just playing and testing so one of the first things to do if you are milling is to face your material which means I need to get it to the desired thickness of my part so I use the one eighth inch tool because it's the biggest tool that I can use on the Bantam tools desktop CNC it's the PCB version and here right here red flag three strips of tape was not enough this isn't just any regular tape this is double sided NATO tape which is like this paper craft tape that works really well it's very strong and it works both for hardwoods and aluminum and a pinch so that's what I'm using but it just didn't use enough right so here I am facing the stuff and facing is just getting your material to the desired thickness or also leveling out your material so this can take anywhere from half hour to an hour depending on your feeds and speed settings another thing I realized is to not do both directions meaning that when you're facing you can tell your tool path do you want to go from both edges or just one edge when you go both edges sure you're saving machining time but it ends up going against the grain to the point where like there's these very thin chips that give you splinters so here are like all of that I guess I could have reduced the step over I literally got a splinter there so I ended up facing it again this time offsetting it a bit and going the full length down because there's not much to mill out so I haven't quite had to do this yet where I optimized two faces to get my my desired thickness and was working with a 12 millimeter piece but the keycap not enough tape it just broke right off horrifying I know alright sorry about the audio folks but there's visuals here to go with what I'm saying so the last bit is to use the 132 inch to create that little plus sign cut out and that ends up working out pretty good for the tolerances so setting it up in fusion 360 is something that took a little bit and I plan to do a layer by layer on that yeah I'm still learning kind of the workflow and stuff for this particular part but I think I have enough to kind of share some techniques but yeah that's kind of the nutshell in a walnut shell and walnut shell good good pun there yeah I think that's right I wish I rehearsed this alright Avro saying that Fran Blank uses carpet tape to have the part stick to the CNC bed carpet tape it's a good I've never heard of carpet tape but I need to find out about carpet tape and then people asking was this 3 printed or is it real wood yep it is real wood yeah it's real wood I showed the video of the milling it's real wood that was before probably I showed that video what else can I say about it these are I don't know white box kale switches yeah yeah it's missing some shellac or something really dark into tones because these are you know it's a mix of cherry and walnut and I can't tell the difference but when you shellac them you can get some nice tones that comes out and really shows off like the walnut or the cherry does the cherry come out more red I think so and you can always play around with you can always play around with different stains well so that is the CNC milling lemon key caps more to come shapes all right yeah I can remember when we were making these with the resin 3D printer this was one of the most difficult walls to get to print out just because of how thin it is right at the edge there showing it but yeah that required us to just thicken it up a little bit while not getting too thick where it can fit into the actual switch itself so yeah yeah one of the challenges with with milling is the tool itself is circular so if you look you can't really get sharp edges on those corners there where the plus sign is so I had to add some gaps so that the fillets are a byproduct of just cutting it with a circular tool and the diameter of this tool 132 inch is 0.8 millimeters and the actual width of the plus sign is 1.1 millimeters yeah and then another weird thing is normally the stems are 4 millimeters tall but the tool that I'm using is only 3 millimeters tall so I had to reduce the height but that's fine it still fits okay because the wall here stops the the kale switch the stem from going too deep in even though it could go a little bit further in but yeah one thing to know about shapes is like they're squares for a reason so if I try to put two of these spin around it just won't fit right like it just won't fit because I don't have adequate clearance or whatever like that's why this isn't you know they want it to work with the key next to it so you want to keep your keys defined within the square but the whole point of this project was not to be a square so that's why these just won't fit with the square they just won't yeah so just a little thing there we got some suggestions from Susan who's saying to use a butcher block conditioner Chalak has a feel I'm guessing like a sticky feel or something like that so you want to keep it nice and matte not sticky not tacky search for butcher block conditioner great idea some sort of oil maybe like an oil-based varnish I see some food grade comment Yanni is suggesting a Raspberry Pi 400 keyboard with wooden keys yeah that's a great idea just make sure that it works there cool so then Agent Smith was asking if the 3-printed filament does it feel like real wood it can it can feel especially the bottom parts it's sawdust mixed with some PLA composite so it's got real wood in it it smells of the smoke that comes out but you want to be careful with it because it tends to chew and eat away at your nozzle so it can cause some clog so be wary of that cool so Bruce is saying that a mixture of mineral oil and bees wax is actually used for cutting boards yeah wax for sure and Yanni is saying that it is also used for wooden tables and chairs it's a nice way to protect that good suggestion folks conditioning to it I know where to go if I need some yep I got some tips on that oh nice I got the Amazon pull it with all the different products that's gonna be a couple of wood stuff yeah there's more wood stuff to come all right cool and that is what we've been prototyping yeah that's about it all right let's go ahead and jump into this week's community makes every week we find a design that's out there in the community we 3D print it and do a time-lapse video on Tuesdays this week this one was found by PT keyboard projects going on uh Phil wanted a giant MX switch in this case container keyboard just to be on the theme with that you can check out John Park's build of those giant keys from a novel novel keys this is just a container so it doesn't actually click down but it is nicely themed like storage for 3D products out there so 3 part storage pops open like that and you can in the case of the video that the designer who made this they were just storing additional keyswitches on here so it's sort of meta just storing keyswitches inside of a giant keyswitch and I did see some of the pictures where he did actually fit an actual key in one of these so you can't have it like a have like an LED in there super simple just like a a normal switch and pop that open and it just clicks in like that and then these just wrap onto the side like that and you can just use this as a very nice container a giant key shaped container it does not click in or anything again just for show very nicely themed storage box this was designed by yeah I'll have to pull it up and get an opportunity to get links and stuff sorry this is on colds3d pulling up the nope they didn't copy do you want to copy that paste that in it's in your notes it's funny how a google docs slows down when I'm trying to get the link here alright so this was found on colds3d you check it out this was designed by the creator here or orio oriel matching on colds3d so this is a paid download I think it's a paid download so you can check that out support the artist for doing their work and trying to load his page here we go orielo matching has a couple other kind of keyboard projects too so you can check those out but shout out to you for creating this cool design and now here's some photos of it yeah what I like about it all of the little intricacies that are on a key switch he managed to blow up like all the little cutaways and of course a little slot there for the LED and these are real things that you can buy from novelty keys JP and Colin have a learn guide I think in progress from JP a learn guide from Colin I think is already out there so you can search if you do want a real one there are real indeed you can purchase one they are JP's giant there it is Colin did a three key one with three of them and he made a little stand for it but these are real keys that you can get and JP I think managed to find a kale version of it I think was it a kale version but yeah these are a cutie pie inside so check out JP's last Thursdays build and of course we're now getting suggestions for having the giant key a cat key nubbins mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm we'll see what we cook up with the key cap with the key paws alright Colin I think that's it for this week's community mix now there's a list of them here so let me pull them out alright so across the web folks are tagging us with their makes sometimes on thing or sometimes on twitter and other places this week we have a user by lawyers we're lawyers posted up their make of our Kingdom Hearts Keyblade so this is a really fun prop from Kingdom Hearts wow I like that handle gorgeous the shiny we use no finishing here this is just filament that's silky you can make some really phenomenal looking props without any post processing that's sort of my jam I really like to do that I'm all for post processing for folks to do it but for me personally it's nice when you don't have to so really nice man that's gorgeous super super excellent do they list what filament they use for that handle no a lot of folks don't post anything but that's fine I just like that they posted it the mystery is out there so it's a mystery man alright let's do another one here how's the audio is it okay it's okay alright this one is a halo energy sword this was posted up by Claude's back and this is our 3d printed version of the halo energy sword from the video game series halo so here we go it's all 3d printed the blades are 3d printed the neopixels are more and there's a little note here so let's read it it has a lot of issues with coding you have to install both the zip file and the additional libraries make sure to update the leds the direction of the data flow should be the same unlike the picture reference using 5mm slim leds as the 10mm didn't fit make sure your feather board is the unassembled one as the one with pens pre-installed causes some issues I've had to correct the terminal position on the battery it was also in the pictures other than that it was a fun build excellent you can hear it but yeah you can make your own halo energy sword as steels are out there for you and there's a learned guide as well the last second third to last is another thing we're supposed to hear this is a make of the 16 by 16 neopixel square display you might see it there in the background this looks like it still has a little bit to go but it was printed on a printer of their own construction by V. Wagner on Thingiverse thank you V. Wagner for sharing your progress of the 60 by 16 this one didn't quite make it as a learned guide but I went ahead and uploaded the files anyway because I felt folks would build it and they did so I'm really happy about that and then the second to the last one is this multi pass by Stuart super awesome this just came to us in the morning so a huge shout out to Stuart for posting this video of his custom Vax build there with the video here it has a built in OLED it's using a neopixel jewel and a cutie pie I think that's the same D version but yeah it's super excellent and he even has some laser cut acrylic man this thing is super dope and his comment was perfect he says I hope it's not too busy and flossed in paradise watch the fifth element you know I'd be talking about really cool to see the inverted mugshot too it's so like perfect look at the little details Ada from the Citibesa for the credit cards so good Stuart Dallas too Stuart Dallas and it has some buttons I think too with an extra LED so much detail so much ah it's so good but yeah I think it's a, I'm not sure it's a remix of the multi pass that we did a time lapse on I'm not sure if it is but maybe it is cool if it's not it's all good so shout out to Stuart for sharing that I hope to see that on the show and tell or something cool and then I have another the last one here is actually a blog post so let's see this one this was posted by Flavio of Dev on Thingiverse, Flavio Fernandez posted this up, sorry there's the link there so printed out the case and used the conductive filament as well so very very cool and he is using it as a what's called the insertion okay cool and there's a a GitHub page for the project if you want to check it out but it's on the Adafruit blog already I hope people are saying that they cannot see your screen I'm seeing it here on Twitch maybe when you went full screen yeah probably when I went full screen it's fine okay so that's this week's community mage, thank you everybody for posting your mage super fun to see everybody post this stuff and if you have something you'd like to share with us you can tag us on any of the social channels or on Discord there's a nice spot there for show and telling and that would be a good spot to you know to talk about tonight's show and tell so tonight we invite you to show and tell it's happening at 7.30pm you can hang out in the Discord server where we'll get a link for the stream yard and then you can join the stream yard but click it on the link all ser games you can do projects, working projects, work in progress maker spaces Threat Show gear, all that stuff's fun really fun time so we invite you to come on and hope you're feeling it and then asking engineers starts at 8pm you just have shortly after what you want to tell it's a full hour of Lamar and Phil talking about all of the on goings on in the maker community the events that are coming back online as everything is opening back up we're right at the end of the light tunnel now everything is getting back to normal slowly but surely and then all of the brand new products coming out as well later tonight so stick around for that and I think there is also coupon codes back at Ask an Engineer so definitely tune in for that yeah it's just like the old days put your orders in on Wednesday nights those are the best right and then tomorrow we got a JP's workshop every Thursday at 4pm join JP does live building answering questions and looking back at some of the things that happened in the week is he back I think so you're sure before he goes on vacation thank you subscribe to via discord there's a group that you can join and get alerted when Scott changes his deep dives it's not always changing you can like subscribe externally somehow thank you alright and then Sundays start with Lady Aida from the desk of Lady Aida live streaming on late night Sundays great search with digikey segments and all the secret toxic stuff all the prototypes that she's working on other upcoming projects and products Tuesdays is JP's product pick of the week I forgot Mondays Mondays are certified on meetings at 2pm Easter time normal on Mondays if there's a US holiday on a Monday it'll follow on the proceeding day but Tuesday and then JP's on Tuesday for sure alright you've been watching 3D Hangouts every Wednesday with me no way and yeah so tonight we'll do the thing and we're looping back around so hang out in the discord server while I guess we're breathed alright guys and that's gonna be it for 3D Hangouts yeah thank you so much folks good luck with all your maker endeavors I encourage you to come on tonight's show and tell but until then, remember to make a great day, bye folks see you later tonight