 Hi, I'm Joshua and I'm Reena and September What's Neat starts now right now The What's Neat show is sponsored by caboose sharing our passion for trains since 1938 This is the What's Neat show for September 2018 I'm your host Ken Patterson and this month we go to the St. Louis Railroad prototype modelers meet the RPM meet in St. Louis this past July and I interviewed a lot of Manufacturers and model builders at that show plus we see a lot of footage of a lot of great models on the table There were just hundreds of models and people from all over the world actually attended the show In fact a lot of the questions for the folks that I asked wasn't so much as you see in past shows where the Manufacturers pitch us and show us all their new products. I really wanted to get down to the bottom of where their passion from Trains came from Why is it they like trains? So a lot of that came into the interviews now I had an hour and a half of footage that I actually recorded at the show with regards to almost 18 interviews Which turned out to be way too much material for 45 minutes show So a lot of that material is going to run in a future What's Neat this week? Podcast during a week that we don't do a show so that'll be a point five special edition show when we do that Also another thing that happened was every evening after the show Of course, I had guests over here in my studio Bonfire running a lot of trains But we also did a podcast that Saturday evening where we had many Manufacturers on that podcast at the very first time so be sure to check that out I think that was podcast number 43 and with that let's visit and go on now with the rest of this show The railroad prototype modelers meet in st. Louis So I'm sitting here with Steve Hart now you remember Steve from last year's rpm meat He had some of the most favorite models and some of the most spectacular models We got on video and I'm not just saying that the reader's feedback was amazing Steve So now you're back again this year and you've built this brand new model to show us tell us about that This is a Klein record that the Katie owned It was mainly used for like re-railing functions and that type of thing I found a picture in the Nick Molo book that what it's an old emery goulash photo As soon as I saw it I fell in love with the truck the look to it what really drove me in was the Water cooler that is on the fender and I knew then I need a model of it So I start in right after we left this show last year and just got it finished up about a month ago So it's I think the cab is from a different resin Manufacturer everything else other than the cab and a little bit of the hood is scratch-built The the doors the hood things like that are all brass so that they all function like the truck should have the rest of it is styrene and Styrene pieces for the chassis Resin for the wheels, but yeah all basically all scratch-built truck Now Steve you said it took 11 months for you to build this you started on it last year Can we expect something like this every year? That's my goal every year. I try to do one big project So I already have my subject picked out for next year, but just to kind of challenge myself I never start till we leave here And then that gives me a I have to finish by date that way to have to start have to finish and yeah So I've got got a new project already to go and we'll hit that soon as I get back You are absolutely amazing. I love all the models. I've photographed them. I've shot them various times It's just an absolute pleasure to meet a modeler of your caliber and I mean that with great respect Steve I greatly appreciate it. I I enjoy coming out and having people people see that I don't know kind of odd topics. I like the model So I I'm glad people enjoy it and hopefully keeping going that way. So you're amazing brother Thank you for sharing your work absolutely. Thank you very much for having me. I always enjoy it. All right. Thank you I'm sitting here with John O'Donnell and John you've been on the what's neat show before promoting your company moon dog Or you make magnificent freight car loads But I want to go back in time because you and I have known each other for better than 25 years and way back when You were an artisan in that you were quite a good painter of models Especially the brass models and the thing that I I want to talk about because I'm rolling some photographs right now about very Efficient clean shop, which I want to illustrate and stress as part of the process of model building is that efficiency But you literally did hundreds of models. Do you want to elaborate about your artistry in that? Probably the biggest project that we took on was one winner. We did a hundred and ten DD 40s for overland and that Made me quite religious getting through that So but we painted a lot of models and I still enjoy painting today Just can't see is good and a lot of other things aren't as good right and fast forward now 20 years And you are selling trees now my wife Connie start making trees out of tumbleweed For the armature and then she does all the other stuff. We just Have always enjoyed this hobby So we're always doing something different That's absolutely amazing. They're very fine and there's a lot no to look alike Plus you still do all the freight car loads. Don't you correct? How has that been working out for you? I'm as busy as I want to be I'll say that so pretty busy working on all that. I love the pipe loads I love all the stuff you do and now that how many prototype modeler meets is this for you Probably think nine nine years, so it's always a good steady show and this is pretty much your clientele This is great. Yeah Yeah, it's been fun to watch it grow because it started nothing more in a car table So tell us John again your moon dog. What's the website moon dog rail cars calm? Oh And you know what I already forgot. Yeah, let's talk about this because there's one more thing that caught my eye And that is your decals Been doing this for about four years Like these are just faded or different I like to do a lot of different stuff as you can see we've Like this is a burn for the top gun Cars perfect, so it looks like a burn on there and then we do graffiti and Then we also do wheel wheel spray, okay That's oh, that's the wheel spray for the end of the car and then this is where it's been through a Oiler or grease. That's what all this represents down here. Wow That's a lot of you're busy. You didn't retire. You're still busy. I don't want to retire So all right John and Donald. Thank you for being on what's neat. Thank you, sir One of my most favorite manufacturers from Canada is repeat. Oh, we cover a lot of your new news on our weekly Podcasts that we do the what's neat this week show because you guys have always got new news You are always releasing neat videos on YouTube The most eccentric I must say is Jason and you two gentlemen are Jason's wizards You guys are development product development for repeat. Oh, yeah, introduce yourselves and tell the what's neat viewers What we can expect. Okay, my name is Gareth bear repeat. Oh trains. I'm from the UK originally So I design a lot of the British your near brothers. Oh, yeah, we're about to you from here a gate harrowing gate Yes, excellent. Excellent. Yes, and we've got Dan Darnell Dan Darnell. You're another wizard in design Yes, I do a lot of the Canadian stuff and you've got some beautiful engines here to show up this week And you've announced a new freight car this week. Tell us about that. That would be Garris project Yes, the New York Central. Yeah, the New York Central Flexi flow the ACF 3500 cubic foot hopper, okay signature can New York Central car Lasted a long time from the 1960s right through to the 2000s. Nice. So everyone associates, you know, New York Central Penn Central Conrail and They they worked all over the country actually believe it or not all over the continental USA. That's awesome Yeah, and Dan tell me about these beautiful locomotives. You've got two of you got the B 37s over here G eb 36 is and you tell us start with this the RS 11s or the American version We're also doing the Canadian RS 18s. There's a lot of brass on that. Yes. Yeah, we've done all photo-etched walkways photo-etched steps It's a very very beautiful model. So how many variations would you say there are that? Well step wells are 17 different step wells on them We can do different filter pack arrangements just by switching out the parts Dynamics pop in and out of them Full DC season sound and lights I can see the value of what you do in the design because it is your design that allows these many variations to be Economically possible exactly exactly just by making it modular like even this filter pack could be switched into a CN We can build anything that alcohol or MLW built off of that chassis and tell us about also these beautiful What are they be 36-7? Tell us about that so the 36-7 is a project that has been very close to my heart managed to convince Jason to let me make it and Obviously one of the main reasons behind that was because we're trying to break more into the American market And this gives us opportunities to make models like the Santa Fe Southern Pacific Conrail CSX and again like the RS 11 every single version is basically a brand new locomotive We have different hood ends Many different noses covering different light packages things like that each cab is different. We have every single fuel tank is different We have separate fuel fillers Sight glasses all the world lines are in the correct place If you turn one upside down you see we've done full traction motor cabling I don't think anyone's ever got close to the amount of traction motor cabling we've got on this model I love your passion You really know this and you know not only are you guys great model builders But you Jason and the group of you together are very smart businessmen Relatively astute in the fact that I understand that you guys are opening up a new location over in Europe in England or something Isn't it the UK so Yeah, so in the past we've made a lot of British models, but they've always been for our clients Right, so people come to us. They say we want to make this want to make that we make it for them But now we want to break into the British market on a more kind of a larger scale We want to make our own models under our own brand. We're fed up with people taking credit for the work we do So, yeah, I'm working on our first diesel locomotive for the British local British market at the moment Which will be announcing maybe early next year But already Jason has announced buses for the British market. Obviously to do this We need to have a base in the UK so we're going to employ Some in the UK on a more kind of permanent footing to handle that business for us and So we can ship direct to the UK and have basically a little mini operation over there Well, I'm excited and I look forward to that stuff. It's going to be great. Thank you guys the repeat old gentleman What an awesome company great interview guys. Thank you so much. Thank you So I'm sitting here with Dave Hussie and you know He's been on the show every year at the prototype modelers meet for going on almost what four or five years that I've been interviewing you And you have not slowed down man, Dave. You're wearing me out. I mean you've got Six or eight new models this year eight new models that I brought for the first time to this show Wow, it's a what have we got? I see a lot of UP stuff. Tell me what's going on Give me the breakdown. We got four UP cars that are two combo door cars Then two cars that are were converted from one of the combo door cars two different door variations I've got a great northern ACF built With a nine-foot sliding door car. I've done two 40-foot You know phosphate cars one for the seaboard Airlines and one You know those Evans built and then that was done in 1967 and 19 excuse me 66 in 1967 they ordered another huge batch up from Pullman's standard and they came in as seaboard coastlines and Then we've got a you know still I didn't even get my sample model completed at Norfolk Western B 121 that's cool now I see decals on a table to these decals come with the cars or these additional products They're additional products these decals were done by Dick Harley the artwork was done by Dick Harley For Hubert mask and some Hubert mask is printing them. You know, he's selling them. I'm selling them But they were specifically designed for these cars. We've got several variations of the Lettering because you know dicks the UP expert guy and so we've got them as delivered with the nine-inch numbers and then when they were Redone with the 14-inch numbers Now I'm looking at all these different cars and all your different doors and this and that are these laser cut Are these cast cars and resin tell me the makeup of the model? It's a combination, you know that the sides are all laser cut Some of the doors are laser cut for the exterior post plug doors Some of the doors are you know, I get from Intermountain or KD Depending on the car I get, you know, if there's a good a door available I'll acquire it the roofs that come with these cars either come from Maloko or athergenesis Underframes, you know, so you end up getting the parts to build a complete body You know the modelers still has to do trucks and couplers and that sort of thing You are amazing what you do for us the modeler all the research all the really cool Unusual models, you know, you're not gonna have a whole train of these but this is gonna make your train Yeah, so Dave, I love it every time I get to talk to you. You are the best brother. Stay care But I see a good scene. Thanks, Kenny Hi, I'm Blaine Hadfield with Arrowhead Models and you're watching What's Neat with Ken Patterson For this segment of What's Neat, I'm standing in the RPMs showroom here in the St. Louis prototype modelers meet And I'm looking at this gorgeous modular layout and I noticed Jason Quinn a regular on the show is running trains So guys introduce yourselves and tell me about this beautiful layout So my name is Brian Sellers. I'm one of the members here of the Ohio Valley sipping and switching society We have we had our module here or layout rather for about nine years. We started in 2008 We started building our first module three years prior right after the Cincinnati National Model Railroad Association show in Cincinnati where we're based out of but yeah, this is a Great time here at RPM. We're very happy to be here. There's our first time attending the show here in St. Louis It's awesome and the scenery is gorgeous now Jason. Tell me what you worked on this layout, too Actually, I've just run trains on it. So far. I'm the newest member I've only been in the club about a year and I actually live in Indianapolis and the club's based out of Cincinnati So it's kind of hard to meet up. So when I do it's a lot of fun. Now. It's really easy to see this layout What is your bench work height? So a bench work height is 48 inches all the way up to the top of the rail I'm really impressed with this intermodal facility all the vehicles the orange cranes. This looks really dynamite guys Well, thank you. That's actually some of my handiwork my myself and other gentlemen Who's not with us this weekend? We constructed that as one of the founding kind of sections of the layout when we started But it's based out of the Santa Fe facility in Willow Springs, Illinois just outside of Chicago Nice now. I love how your scenery flows from module to module You don't have a circus here and dinosaurs in a tornado. It's really neat. What what made you model it that way? Well, we really appreciate the I think the look of the Midwest a lot of us were Midwestern fans Whether it be the Eastern roads or the Western think it was a big section that we all appreciated and we got together So as you said, we wanted to make sure that for the most part things flowed together as much as it could We didn't want to have the tornadoes here and the circus here if you will we've gotten big enough We've added a bit more topography and some of the modules that aren't with us today But for the most part all this all of the scenery sections They do come together quite nicely and makes for a really nice looking layout. I really like your signaling system What kind of a DCC system do you use? Yeah, so we use digit tracks for our operations the signals themselves They they're not linked up to the digit track system. It's more for looks than anything But they do look nice, but it's not a actual functioning system more for the looks But we do use digit tracks as far as operations. It's super cool, man Thank you guys for sharing this with the viewers of what's neat. Well, thank you so much really appreciate your channel Thanks for stopping by our layout and hopefully we'll get a chance to see you at a future segment or maybe here next year Absolutely. Thanks guys. Thank you so much Just saying it So I'm standing here with Dan Goans from Texas and he's brought with him the 87 187 vehicle club the 187th car guys have come to the prototype modelers meet and the reason for that is because cars are so closely Associated as a prop for our trains Absolutely, and you've brought some beauties here. Tell me about this display Well, one of the things that we brought is all of the Modellers that do such incredible work with just the vehicles themselves We brought Modules and we brought individual displays we have trucks and heavy equipment and emergency displays Anything to do with vehicles because early on in the model railroad industry HO vehicles were just kind of left behind and it's only been in the last 15 20 years that they really come around And we have a lot of active manufacturers We have a lot of vibrant model builders Which is kind of interesting because For a lot of model railroad industry right now There's more and more collectors and less and less builders But in the vehicle side, there's still a whole lot of builders involved in Fact I really dig these barges with the cranes on them I see three of them here and they're just absolutely beautiful models down to the deck rigging and the chains I mean wow, I mean vehicles aren't just cars. They are Vehicles Incompensates so many different types of machines doesn't it? I once had a high MPS which is the International plastic model builders. He came to me one time. He said, you know, most model railroaders guys They aren't real modelers because look at what they do with their vehicles. I said, you know what? That's about to change That's awesome. Well, I appreciate you all coming to the show I hope that we get to see you again and after I'm done working the show I want to come back and really sit down and look at these models. Okay, but Dan, thank you for being on what's neat, okay? I've got George Bogutuck from soundtracks with me here in St. Louis today and George I know this is so exciting the electronic industry has changed and you guys have changed it very much so Absolutely, and what we've done with our tsunami two decoders is we've tried to give it a much more realistic experience of running a locomotive and The sounds that are going to come out of it. So for example here with our tsunami two We have 16 independent sound channels, okay? What that means is that this decoder is capable of playing 16 independent sounds and our sounds are not just a random playback We we actually have an interactive sound system that works based on how you're running your locomotive Anybody can make a random noise generator and they do we want to make it that much better And so it's an interactive sound system and so when you use your brakes more frequently It triggers the compressor and so where the 16 sound channels come into play is because when the decoder is running and you hear those Sounds coming out on off in the background based on how the decoders working You don't have to have the compressor sound kick out or go away because you turn on the bell Right or whatever and we're trying to create that real illusion of what the locomotive is doing So we give you the ability to control your locomotive and run your train and let the sound system work for you and not you know Cut out or do any cause of you know cause any problems or anything like that I listen to your decoders and I learn how the real train sound that way Yes, rather than going out and another thing one of my most favorite things about your decoders that I really enjoyed when I run My trains is that when I'm pulling a freight with tsunami two I know the engines chug up they rev up by themselves and they rev down and it's really like the real thing It is that's what's called our dynamic digital exhaust Okay, and what it's doing is it's reading the load on the motor So when you have a heavier train your locomotive is going to be working harder Right and so you can just adjust the throttle let the locomotive run and your terrain will dictate what the locomotive is doing So as you're going uphill you're gonna hear it working harder when it's going downhill you're gonna hear it working less You also have a manual override So let's say if you want to go around that corner and you want to increase the diesel engine RPM You can just by default it's function 5 to increase the diesel engine RPM or 6 to decrease it So never once do you lock your throttle to adjust the the throttle knob and then you have to remember what throttle notch You're what speed you were running in and you have to drop the throttle back down and ours does it automatically based on that You can set the sensitivity so a switcher can be more sensitive So you hear more drastic changes when your locomotive is moving this cut of cars in and out of the yard where a road freight Maybe more even tempered because you've got more locomotives together so you can set that sensitivity to adjust it There's so many cool things in it. I could talk for an hour I know and you've got a layout you run these at home and you do I do sleep this because I work this all the time with Soundtracks. I have been working there a long time. It'll be 10 years in October. Do you believe that? It's just amazing. You are part of us. You're part of the industry and we love you George That's been so much only George only George is my personal YouTube channel and then on soundtracks We've been doing weekly videos called on board with soundtracks And that's where you can get more in-depth information on features that we talked about today and more And we don't just focus on the tsunami to last week or week before we did a three-video series on consisting Okay, so I know you have talked about setting all your locomotives to address three in running it. I do do that I love it But what we do is I did a three-video series talking about the different types of Consisting how to work it and how to build it so you can get the best out of your locomotives So we don't just focus on the tsunami too, but we do obviously want to show you the benefits of the tsunami too So be sure to check out like and subscribe to that and also check out our Facebook page because we do a lot of information On there you're doing a lot of new videos. We're doing a lot of videos every week. We're posting to our YouTube channel We're getting snippets on our Facebook page So be sure to like that and you can link to both of those at soundtracks.com soundtracks.com George We love you brother. Thank you got it. Thank you very much always fun to see you here Look at these beautiful modules on this table. I'm standing with our wonderful friend Bob Ravard You took the trip to come to the prototype modelers meet which tells me the last time must have been good for you It was and so now here. We are 2018 and you brought part of your layout with you Yes, let's go on with that. Yep last year I had such a good time coming on here with Frank and so we did the same thing Frank Jordan is here with me We gave a clinic this morning and all went well and we brought some of our models Frank is a rock island modeler. So a lot of these cars over there on the that's the spine line No, that's really cool. How you made that set up crossover there. It's across the tables here It's an exact duplicate of what exists up in Minnesota now Does this work into your home layout or these additional modules that you I built? Just for the show, okay This show these two scenes this scene here I built last year I had a water problem in my basement water damage and I rebuilt my scene About 20 feet of a scene and I did it this concept now. They use this pink foam for base. It's fantastic The methods they use now. No, I had used particle board 40 years ago in it warped and so I had to tear it out I redid it with this concept, which is the spine line In shut the spine line goes under the Chicago Great Western and the sous line gains access to the huge Roseport refinery in Minnesota and that's what this scene represents. So this is the rock island This is the old Chicago Great Western, which the sous line runs their transfers on this line Now I see you've got all foam here going on on the scenery. What kind of track have you got on this diorama? It's just it's just real like Shinahara Code this might even be code 70 up here. This is just I like how you weathered your ties with paint individually The tie concept came from Mike Confalone's videos. He's so and he's like your videos right inspires you to do stuff and so I wanted to aid you basically paint your ties and You weather them with aim powders and the result is weathered nice looking prototype ties Now I see you've been doing a lot of articles for what model railroad hobbyist magazine in the past two years now I talked to you about that last year and they do such a wonderful job with my material I am so happy with it. And yeah, it just came out this month my article on doing rock island Units for the Rocky suit transfer and I'm real happy with how it turned out. I gotta make a personal admission on foam I know you through all of your articles for the past 20 to 30 years rail model journal model railroad Are you name the publication? You and I have been doing articles for both of them at the same period of time Looking at each other's work learning from each other's work. I've learned for your trestles It's I'm a farmer and when I got to meet you in person for real It's one of those examples of how do you behave? Well, I'm gonna meet Bob Rivard, but I must tell you I do respect your work, and I appreciate it every time you share it with the viewers on what's neat Thanks for coming Bob. Thanks Ken. It's awesome. He is always so all right For this segment of what's neat I'm sitting here with Paul Ellis from scale trains comm and Paul's here at the rpm meet But you brought some beautiful models. Tell me about this. Oh, yeah, yeah, Ken We've got a new announcement of SD 40 dash twos. We announced this morning at the show New road names and more paint schemes for our very popular C4 dash 2 model. I've got a few examples here Here's Milwaukee Road We've done Milwaukee in the past Although this one is different from previous runs is these pretty good units are equipped with extra antennas for local control with some remote control Helper system that know Milwaukee Road and other railroads used and you can tell that by the extra radio antenna on the cab roof And also these units this particular number here is unique It's one of the units I was equipped with icicle breaker equipment And you see that news you have these added these extra chain troughs on the back and a little bracket hardware That's cool that you guys can do all these individual details like that on models I saw that square square. What's it called? The CSX unit they'll rebuild us with their nickname spongebob square cab. That's yeah after the cartoon character And they have that the cab is kind of a boxy appearance The whole idea but on the st4-3 is CSX calls them The st4-2 is in their fleet a lot of them are getting we're getting pretty raggedy in the later years So CSX is embarked on a rebuilding program where they are totally refurbished in the st4-2 fleet They're getting a new front end including the cab nose and the sub base You know with the built-in HVAC and all new crew amenities to make them more comfortable more Crash-worthy and safer for the crews All right here comes a CSX engine I can't wait to see this look at this cab on this I'll shoot some close-up b-roll of this But this is just amazing that you can do a unit like this with a variation of Nothing less than a brass model. This is how brass used to be 20 years ago And now you can do this now where you've got one engine with one specific cab Now paul we love it. We love what you do We're all very familiar with you through scale trains.com and your internet presence But tell me, you know what? I know you've got a passion for trains Tell us all about where your passion comes from Well, um, I've always been into model trains. I was a little kid You know my father and my brother both older brother You know had layouts of the house You know I was a little kid you know like get the piece of four bed plywood and Nail you know nail some meals and at the sectional track on there with the road bed and you know run trains around and I grew up with the blue box era You know, I had local hobby shop that I used to go to all the time You know get get money from doing chores around the house and buy my bike to the hobby shop I've been sitting in the blue box hoppers and other little things like that And it just manifested itself, you know, I've worked in the industry for jeez bike whole store Well over 15 16 years now so 15 years you've been in this model train hobby What did you do prior to scale trains? Uh prior to scale trains. I was at athern. I worked rnd at athern for about seven years Before that I worked at micro skill industries as doing rnd and doing graphic design for about four years there And before that, um, I looked at local hobby shops during my college years, you know, they're a little money and you know And uh, you know playing with trains Wow, that's absolutely an amazing pass that you've got It's an honor to talk to you you are very respected in the industry And we look forward to all the new cool stuff that you guys come out with Yeah, oh, thank you. We appreciate that and you know, we appreciate all the support from our customers over the Over the years. We've been in existence and uh There's a lot of things need except from the pipeline. We're anxious. We're gonna be announcing a new locomotive Hopefully next month at the Annamarie Nationals in Kansas City. I'll see you there for sure Oh, yeah, come by our booth. We're pretty excited when we're supposed to come up next That's awesome. Thank you so much So i'm standing here with mad gentry from athern and matt you brought some really cool new products that I haven't even seen yet I usually see everything first. Tell us about this amtrak engine and these new things we got going on So this amtrak engine is our sdp-40f and this is the phase two paint scheme And uh, these are available in stores now We also have the north folk southern sd-60e in the veterans union honoring our veterans number 69 20 This is our first deco sample production deco sample of this model and um Can you'll be getting that soon to get some photographs of i'm sure I know I hear that coming I think we're building a bridge for that right now. We're building something. Chris has got me busy Yes, but this display booth looks great I know chris just did a revamp on the booth and the whole thing looks very professional came out super nice But you know what matt there's something else I want to talk to you about I know and we've talked a little bit when you were on the podcast one time But you kind of have a passion for trains too. You really have an interest for the models We're both lucky we get the work in the industry. We love right but tell us about you and your passion Where'd that come from? Well, my passion started As long as I can remember I mean I It had to be at least five years old probably before that My dad of course was in model trains and so I naturally got that but I started with ogage lionel three rail and I cut my teeth On a layout down in madisonville, kentucky. It was a 70 foot by 30 foot basement nothing but lionel trains Going through the walls Everything how about that and that's where I got started and so fast forward, you know graduate college and everything like that and Well, I still want to collect trains and ogage isn't cheap, right? So I moved to ho scale Um And got lucky Found out athern was looking for graphic artist position which is what you met you hit that specialty. Yes. My background is in graphic arts applied for that and Moved to california. So you would say to somebody out there that's young say 14 15 18 years old going to college And they enjoy the hobby that there's room in the hobby for them professionally Anything this hobby Like I said, I started with graphic arts. There's engineering drawings cad. There is electronics electrical I mean we work very closely with soundtracks all the stuff that their electronics engineers do to do all these sounds um Just working with your hands doing all this sort of trade type stuff Is excellent. I mean there is an aspect I learned about every day in this hobby that's like I didn't know you needed that skill right That's amazing and and like you and I I mean you and I started our early careers in hardware stores No, that's right. That's right. We both did work at a hardware store. My first job was an ace hardware They're in new burg indiana. Yep, and uh, you learned so much at the hardware store, you know Plumbing electrical painting all that sort of stuff right good order on homo soat or on plywood or a one by four I know I know we And if you can learn any of that stuff you will learn something for this hobby That is so fun. That is the magic of the hobby the people you meet the careers the jobs that are out there and you're You're absolute proof that you can have a perfect job that you enjoy in the industry you like right None of us are all going to get rich, but we're all going to eat well and have a good life I never dreamed I'd be working in this industry. You're awesome, man. Thank you very much. Thanks. You're the best. Thanks So i'm sitting here with samuel denny from north carolina and samuel you build some automobiles And you're with this, uh, what is it called 187th group 187 vehicles Club and you guys have got a pretty big internet presence and a big group of guys that likes automobiles And you see a lot of industrial equipment here on the table and cranes But you're more of the custom shop shop shop kind of a guy, aren't you exactly that? Tell me about your artistry and cars So I come from the 125th scale model World where it's everything from hot rods customs stock vehicles anything and everything And I came over to this scale It's 187 scale HO train scale Vehicles and nobody was making hot rods customs and low riders. So I said There it is. That's what i'm going to do. I'm going to master it I'm going to hopefully be the best at it and we'll see what happens and Right now. I'm the only one doing it. So so you're like you're just feedback this weekend. Are you? Oh, wonderful feedback. I built a HO scale ecto one from the ghostbusters movie And I have it lit up and it's the only one right now in the public That is lit up and people are going nuts over it. No, that's a beautiful model and you used leds in that. Did you? Yes, yes, that's leds and there's a circuit board underneath it. It's it's ready to go I am so impressed with your models and quite honestly. I love your prasanna your characters cool too So you fit the part of the custom job shop I can imagine you sitting at home working in your shop and just enjoying this hobby. I love this hobby. It's It's not time consuming because they are so small but at the same time The little bit that you can put it into it. It makes such a big difference. So it's That's wonderful. Have you met Michael buddy? I have and we have become great friends. He's a good car. Yes Now let me ask you now. How many hours I've seen you soaking in everything in this room Are you tempted to model anything railroad oriented? If I do it'll definitely be car themed as well. So maybe like a A duke's a hazard car jumping over an open rail car of some kind, but railroading in itself Now It'll be the second afterthought that I do if I do it at all Cool, sam. I appreciate y'all being here and sharing your beautiful work on what's neat Your paint work is absolutely exquisite and stay tuned on what's neat to see in the future whether sam gets into trains Thank you All of the model railroad products seen in this episode of what's neat are available through caboose in lakewood, colorado Or order online at mycaboose.com