 Hello, I'm Susan Burge. I'm the director of counseling and psychological services at the university and joining me today is Lisa Arnold Lisa is a clinical director of our collegiate recovery program She's also our licensed alcohol and drug counselor at the university as well as well as one of our therapists at counseling and psychological services We're delighted that you're joining us today and what we're especially excited about is welcoming your sons and daughters this weekend to campus However, it's not just about this weekend and a welcome But importantly the experience that we're invested in for your sons and daughters to have a top-notch Educational experience at Fairfield U What that means is not only a superb academic experience But the out-of-the-classroom experience their engagement their relationships and how they develop as Men and women for others That's a Jesuit value and it's one that we uphold and really try to breathe life into it Fairfield University So men and women for others what we mean is not only care of our Self but care of the other not only taking responsibility for ourself But importantly for others You might say how does this play out in terms of alcohol and drugs? What we're trying to achieve at Fairfield University is Young men and women who not only take good care of their health their well-being Make healthy choices use good judgment But also care for the other and we'll talk a little bit more about our bystander training in a bit We're up against quite a challenge though Young at late adolescents young adults their brains are not yet formed Specifically the prefrontal cortex This is the area of the brain in which emotion risk-taking impulsivity Comes out of so if this area of the brain is not formed and it's not probably until they're close to 25 years old We're up against trying to have them use good judgment help make healthy decisions and reduce their risk-taking Because there's a biologic basis for this behavior How does that play out well we're keenly aware that over the course of the four years college students Most not all are going to experiment They're going to at least try alcohol. Some will try some drugs Some will not but they will be in the presence of others who will be drinking and drugging Concern to Lisa and I and the people at this university is that in the last few years We've seen an increase in our students and students across the nation mixing alcohol and other substances That's a concern now. We've taken risk to a whole new level a level that has a great deal of danger And that certainly is a significant fear of ours We hope That our college students get a better sense of how to take care of themselves We want to teach them about alcohol and drugs how it impacts their minds how it impacts their bodies But education alone is not the answer What we've realized is that it too mature for that brain to develop. It's often Experiences that create maturation What could that be? Maybe the experience of a hangover a blackout Maybe unwanted sexual activity Maybe getting written up at the university and having judicial consequences or worse yet legal consequences Maybe their reputation or their relationships could be impacted. These are the kinds of things that when internalized Can help an individual make healthier choices and so learn from the behavior What we want you to know is that in the first six weeks of students coming to university any university It's called a freshman phenomenon. The first six weeks tend to have a higher incident Incidents of alcohol use Maybe drug use but riskier behavior Well, why is it they're coming to a new environment? They're uncomfortable They're socially awkward probably and a lot of this is driven by a desire to want to belong to want to fit in To form groups to be accepted by others So this particular Chunk of time in the beginning of freshman year is fraught With concern we do a range of activities. We do education information We do programming in the residence hall You'll hear more about all of our efforts including interventions and treatment and Referrals that Lisa handles on her end But what we want to do with you today is have you get a better understanding of this age group What goes on with them in terms of their relationship with alcohol and other drugs and importantly what Fairfield you is doing to respond and Ideally partner with you Lisa's going to talk a little bit more about why our students are using But we're going to go to the next slide Okay Why are students are drinking and druggy? I talked a little bit about the first six weeks But this is a more generalized idea of what goes on for them that they might engage in this behavior Thank You Susan. So why do students drink and use drugs this profile was taken the survey Recently and it explored different reasons why students come on campus and they Either continue drinking from high school or they start drinking on a college campus and as you can see Particularly the top half is mostly about socialization And breaking the ice enhancing the activity Students are Like Susan said a lot of times socially awkward when they come on campus and they use that And students laugh when I use the term social lubricant But a lot of times it's about their new environment and it's about how to fit in socially The third one kind of sparks something for me in giving people something to do When students arrive at a new environment, they're not sure what to do next They're not sure from morning noon and night. Everything looks different to them So they tend to follow the crowd in the first few weeks at Fairfield University Clubs and activities are forming and we have what's called the club fair where students are invited to come and Explore all the different booths and find out the different activities on campus and the different events And that's when they can really sink their teeth in and start getting involved in some things that they may have had in High school and we find that alternative activities can reduce their use because it does provide for them alternative activities We want to give you a sense of What we're seeing at Fairfield University? Campus and again, we're not we're not that much different from Not only our peer institutions, but other colleges and universities, but we're mindful where we are different and we'll talk to you about that as well The current trends are the college students are not simply drinking socially So they're not having a glass of wine with dinner. They're not having a cocktail it it tends to be that they're binge drinking and binge drinking is determined or or defined as Five or more drinks for a male in a given period of time in four or more drinks for a woman woman in a given time What's happened over the last five to ten years is that? Students tend to what we consider pre-game and by pre-gaming they're what they're doing is they're using shots of heart hard alcohol So imagine if a 17 18 19-year-old is Drinking one two three Maybe four shots. Maybe let's say a vodka or or rum or tequila They think they're still feeling okay. So they're going to continue to drink the reality is is that body has not Metabolized the alcohol it hasn't even processed it yet. So here they have What will be a high blood alcohol level and yet feel pretty good because they drank very quickly and the body hasn't taken it Processed it yet. And so they keep drinking so often times when Lisa and I meet with students They might say well I started off the night with five or six shots and then I went on and I had five beers Plus Well at the end of that in a period of time we have an individual who is significantly compromised But didn't see it coming so it wasn't a slow increase of feeling a little bit good a little bit relaxed you know kind of that high feeling and Then getting that feeling of being drunk or uncertain or dazed all of a sudden they're hit with that It's like they don't even get that initial feeling of just relaxing a little bit or feeling more comfortable So certainly in your conversations with your son and daughters You want to talk about this notion of pre-gaming with hard alcohol? And you also want to talk to them about the amount of alcohol and how the body Takes time to process it and how if it's if they drink too rapidly It's very bad outcomes in terms of all the difficulties. It's a encounter Physically but behaviorally it could it could be pretty tough What are we seeing in terms of types of drugs as I said in terms of alcohol? We're seeing more hard liquor Then we used to it used to be colleges mostly drank a lot of beer. We're not seeing that we're seeing more hard alcohol Used by these students Pretty good amount of marijuana on our campus Lisa's going to talk to you a little bit about the impact of decriminalization on marijuana and the messages that that sends to our students Which can be mixed messages a number of students come to university having been diagnosed Maybe an elementary or secondary school with ADHD or ADD So they might be coming with a stimulant such as Adderall or Ritalin or concerta They're coming with that and it doesn't take long to find out that when you're drinking and then you use a stimulant it feels because your brain is stimulated by the drug and Depressed by the alcohol it can feel like the kind of high you achieve is going to last longer And in fact be a less sloppy drunk So again, they figure that out. It's a really really bad connection Combination because as you can imagine the brain is getting stimulated and depressed at the same time And that's that's certainly bad for the brain and the central nervous system We're seeing other drug use again as most colleges and universities are Cocaine pain medication Certainly there is a national epidemic on opioid use in Connecticut last year nine hundred and seventy nine hundred and seventeen Fatal overdoses And and we are keenly aware of this and this is something that Lisa and I are trying to put in the forefront of students Is the risk of combining these drugs The risk of combining alcohol with these drugs and the danger of using these pain meds heroin that can be leased with fentanyl so we do a lot of education in that regard Unfortunately, we're seeing students who are very stressed academic sports whatever is going on And they like the feel of a benzodiazepine. This might be Xanax The old valium adivan lorazepine and so ah that can relax them And reduce their stress, but imagine if you're mixing it with alcohol Alcohol is a depressant and you're adding in a benzodiazepine, which is a depressant And our fear is that if the central nervous system becomes too depressed The brain will start message stop messaging for the individual to breathe. So this is a particularly dangerous combination Some students again not specific to fear field, but some students if they're going to a concert They like to use molly or ecstasy. It can make them feel particularly euphoric and affectionate and happy We do a lot of education outreach if there's concerts on on campus. Uh, if that's the case Last year on campus, we had 133 students who were charged with violating the University's policy on illegal drug use as you can imagine many more students Encountered write-ups or disciplinary Charges for alcohol use So that's again not to similar to other colleges and universities This is what we're dealing with and this is very much in the forefront of our efforts to keep these young men and women safe and and healthy The next thing that we want to talk to you about is again a little bit more information Regarding fear field and how we how we look against our peer groups. So lisa will take you through this chart So here's a profile of our incoming students looking at high high risk drinking rates Prior to matriculation to school And so on the right you will see the problem problematic rates of high risk drinkers versus light to moderate drinking versus non-drinking And what we tend to see and what the trend is at fear field is that not only are we in the northeast Which does produce higher drinking rates that are around the country, but also in jesuit universities What occurs is also slightly elevated and so fear field tends to run a little bit higher In terms of the higher risk drinkers And across the board this is the case for northeastern and for jesuit universities Against their peer groups in other parts of the country We want to talk to you a little bit about um getting it real in terms of what are the consequences of of often what is this binge drinking Again, we're looking at experimentation. We're looking at use and then we're looking at abuse and abuse is binge drinking 1825 college students typically die every year For alcohol related deaths. That means maybe by injuries including motor vehicle That's an awful lot of promising beautiful young lives To lose About from substances In terms of assaults, it's not uncommon If there is an assault whether it's a sexual assault or a fight that alcohol Fueled it maybe didn't cause it but fueled it Most and we don't have that many sexual assaults, but those sexual assaults that we do have on campus I would say most of them there is alcohol involved Um academic problems. Remember they're coming here for for a really excellent academic experience and one out of four college students Experiences reduced Performance academic performance because of of their alcohol and drug use It's not uncommon at the end of a semester where we have students coming in and saying Why didn't I didn't go to a lot of my classes? I missed a lot of assignments and when we look at what was going on A lot of the avoidance the procrastination the missed classes are a result of What they consider their partying well, it's their alcohol and drug abuse at that point It's an awful lot of money It's a huge commitment. It's interfering with their their health So these are huge consequences to the drinking and drugging that goes on at universities Other problems you can see we're looking at suicide attempts We've had students who were not actively suicidal. They were not depressed But they got so emotional so impulsive and their judgment was so poor While they were under the influence that maybe they made an attempt or made Remarks that frightened a number of their friends regarding taking their life We certainly have seen vandalism People damaging property they would never normally damage property but again under the influence using poor judgment And certainly we have a wonderful public safety department here. These guys are terrific. They're not out to simply Um it'd be the cops in terms of a municipality But they are policing they are emt's and they are very mindful That if an individual that they encounter is under the influence they assess them And if warranted they are transported to a local hospital And that generates a whole series of What we like to think of is educational opportunities For that individual to really reflect and look at the behavior that got them Into a hospital for their alcohol or drug use Lisa um as I said is the um is our licensed alcohol and drug person counselor on campus And so she presents her model is harm reduction And she's going to talk to you a little bit about how that how that shapes our our work here at fearfield Thank you Susan So a lot of the students come to see me voluntarily Some are referred after they have been documented by the dean of students office for Sanctions involving drug and alcohol use But I tend to take the same approach with all students and that The premise behind harm reduction is to Meet them where they're at and try to tweak their behavior in a way that they could produce more healthy results and less risky drinking So whether it be in a group format or on an in an individual session I welcome all students to come in and have a conversation with me About what is happening what they're drinking in a not very non-judgmental way um letting them make their own decisions And perhaps guiding them in a way that they can make healthier decisions and have less risky behavior And what that might look like is I review with them different areas of their lives where alcohol may have impacted them in a negative way For instance your future as a student at fearfield university Susan mentioned academic problems Um, there are also disciplinary problems with the dean of students office and when they're more severe They could be at a legal level Are you having problems with your friends? Is it interfering with your relationships at home? And we look at all these different areas and we decide how alcohol has impacted them and what they might want to do to change that behavior These problems don't happen on an island with alcohol and I very rarely see a student who comes in and says I drink a lot But everything else is fine So um, it's really about an emphasis on the mind body spirit and producing a better student as a whole And if that involves less drinking or drug use then we can have one conversation about that or it might be many students might Sign up for a wellness group to perhaps Look at these behaviors In comparison to what other students are doing on campus Or they might want to do it privately in an individual session or we can do a combination of those Susan had mentioned sexual assaults on campus and other disciplinary assault thing, you know assault charges that may happen What I like to look at is Um, what kind of person are you sober versus the kind of decision making that happens when you're under the influence because Oftentimes and more often than not the student sitting in front of me Doesn't look like they can make these kinds of decisions when you introduce alcohol Into that prefrontal cortex it hijacks their ability to have good decision making and their judgment is very impaired And conversations about this in an ongoing way can be highly successful with these students also To emphasize a concern for others and when you see students who are In the presence of others Who are getting into trouble and to know what to do in those situations And we have bystander intervention where we do training with students who Are noticing that others might be in trouble and what to do On campus and who to contact and how to get involved in a way that they'll know That it won't be a punitive action that you are helping your friends. You're helping each other and you're watching out for each other I hope you've picked up through our our presentation that we're very focused on that that we are Jesuit We are catholic. We are fairfield university and so Our mission calls for us to uphold these Jesuit values I talked to you about men and women for others care of self And care of others responsibility for self and responsibility for others Care of personalities Excuse me as another one care of the mind body and the spirit so the development of the whole person And and that includes positive health and wellness messaging that we do Respecting yourself Lisa mentioned the bystander approach again the men and women for others Um, I can't tell you how many times we encounter a student saying, you know, my friend passed out And he or she was really drunk and they were vomiting, but I cleaned up the bed and I let them sleep it off Well that and when we question we say what went on for you that you didn't get help for that individual Oh, I didn't want to get in trouble or I didn't want to get them in trouble And that's that's immaturity That's taking care of yourself in terms of protecting you from any kind of consequence And risking the life of another And so we try really hard at fairfield. We have amnesty meaning if you call public safety if you say I'm really worried about somebody Or I just walked walked down the the Pathway and there's somebody in the bushes and they're drunk That individual is not going to get what the kids think of as in trouble And we we congratulate them on them on that do the right thing and the right thing is getting help for another We also say and a number of students do this If you don't feel good if you're scaring yourself After drinking if your heart is racing if you're vomiting don't go to bed. Don't go to another 18 or 19 year old to take care of you Have public safety assess you maybe you do need to go to the hospital. Maybe you do need to be hydrated with an i-v Hopefully you don't need to be intubated But certainly we're trying really hard to message To do the right thing in terms of being responsible responsible for yourself and others What we all we also teach them in the bystander don't let somebody get in a car If you see somebody drinking we actually teach them we give examples Get them to stop drinking take the drink away in a nice way. Maybe after you forceful And you say i'm really worried about you, you know, let's leave i'll go with you Or if you see somebody going off with a member of the opposite sex and they're not able to give affirmative consent Or they're not intact help them out. Hey, come on. Let's go back here. Let's do something else So we give examples where we're trying to get Everybody to be part of a community that takes care of themselves and each other We also work really really hard to put a lot of resources into alcohol-free activities There we want to create a fun and safe environment. We're always trying to Make it acceptable or social norm that you can go out without drinking and for A population of fear field university students. That's very natural They find each other they find ways to have a great time And and not have to drink but again that that pulled to be Part of a group sense of belonging To fit in can be so great That some of our students get more sucked into that We have a first year experience. We call it fye experience and it's very good for community building But it also has all these Educational opportunities bystander training So again, it's part of so many things that we're trying to do at fear field To develop our students making healthier choices and be mindful of others Lisa's going to tell you about all the different resources we have on campus So some of our fear field university resources At the top of the list is counseling and psychological services Where susan and i can both be found during the week as well as many other Psychologists therapists who are all on hand to help with many of not only the issues that we talked about But students who come in with signs and symptoms of anxiety and depression Or having a difficult time adjusting to school homesickness And what's nice is that you can call and make an appointment as a student And we also offer daily walk-in hours from 2 to 4 p.m We also have the student health center, which is conveniently located next door to the counseling and psychological services And it is essentially Our medical center where students can go in and with any ailments They can see a doctor who we have on site for certain hours And there will be someone available to them from the hours of 8 30 until actually 8 p.m at night Counseling and psychological services has varying hours, but certain nights of the week We are also available until 7 p.m There is the dean of students office where Students can sometimes be referred for documentation of violation of certain policies on campus But the dean of students is also an invaluable resource for any student who's having difficulty As the dean of students office will know how to resource and help that student Find the appropriate department that they might need to talk to if they're struggling in any way We also have residents life who as we speak are deep in their trainings Um, there they are our resident assistants and new student leaders Who are learning how to work very well With all of our residents, um, they provide great support on this campus To our students and we are very grateful to have them as they are our frontline intervention When students run into any kind of problem and they are always available 24 7 While the student has an r.a. On their floor. There are also other r.a.'s And new student leaders who are circulating all hours of the day and night to help out And we also have campus ministry. We have a chapel on campus with Jesuits and both Jesuits and priests We often in a collaborative effort work closely with campus ministry To provide services For counseling with religious undertones and also if if students are tied very closely To their religious resources at home They find it a very welcoming place to go and meet our Our services on campus who provide the same for them while they are away at school As susan mentioned before the department of public safety Which looks a lot like police officers on bikes and they're walking and they have their own cars on campus Um can be looked to uh to provide a great service to our students They are very protective of our students and help us in many ways They are often known to find students on campus who are having a tough time They bring them up to counseling. They bring them to campus ministry Or wherever they need so they are also an invaluable service to us So we've talked to you about all the different things that that were We're committed to at the university in terms of reducing risk And importantly to develop for our students to develop the skills to make these healthy Lifestyle choices i'm going to pass over this next section and just review all those On our next slide Your sons and daughters before they come to fairfield university You're taking that online alcohol education program They're going to take a follow-up to it. I believe in the end of october beginning of november I mentioned to you the first year experience program They're going to get a lot of information about alcohol and drug use and importantly the resources And our efforts on campus They're going to have a unit on bystander intervention that i've mentioned to you Lisa runs a choices class that she mentioned and that's a lot of good information And importantly very interactive where a student can reflect on the decisions and the choices they've made and how they might Consider modifying those to be healthier At counseling and psychological services we offer individual and group counseling Not only for all sorts of issues, but invariably we do look at Their alcohol and drug use and whether or not that could be impacting their functioning Personally and academically I'm going to turn over now and go back to this slide. Lisa wants to tell you about a very special Program at fairfield university, which we think really distinguishes us From other universities and importantly in that continuum that i mentioned the education the interventions The consequences the assessments the treatment Well, then we take it a step further at fairfield university And provide services for those men and women in recovery. So lisa's going to talk to you about that program So here at fairfield university, we have our collegiate recovery program, which is moving into its fifth year beginning this september And we offer the only residential services in the state of canada get For students in recovery from drug and alcohol use and what that means is students who are committed To their recovery Not just sober, but are living a lifestyle Free of alcohol and drug use and attending 12 step meetings Engaging in service commitments Um going on retreats and all kinds of recreational activities, which we have to offer Students in recovery our residential program Consists of two homes And that it started as one home after three years Due to the popularity of students gaining interest in being in recovery and also balancing their academics We opened a second house last september So we are able to Provide services for 10 residents in recovery. They are two capes within walking distance Of our campus with five beds each I have we have a house manager on site Who provides all kinds of support and is really the liaison between clinical services and residential Services for these students And it's a wonderful program. We provide all kinds of recreational activities Due to the generosity of funders who we've gained over the years who've gained interest in what we're doing Oftentimes they are alumni in recovery themselves Or family and friends of the program and they find out what we're doing on campus and would really like to help us financially And they have provided Dinners for our students and trips As we speak all of our recovery students this year are That are coming in in september are on a trip right now jet skiing And playing golf in long island having a great time. So when they come back, they'll be fully rested for move in weekend So um, we are very proud and grateful to have developed this program over the years And if anyone ever has any interest Um in the services that we offer, please feel free to contact me So I mentioned early on that that the university Is very very Committed and devoted to address this issue head on It's it's a concern that not only can preclude their experience or college experience or education But as i've i've indicated to you there's some real health and safety risks here So we are we're meeting this challenge head on and and we are putting a lot of resources A lot of people a lot of money Every life means a world to us We need your help. We need to partner with you. We cannot do it alone Some of the ways that that we would like you to partner with us is by all means to have conversations with your Son or daughter before they get here this weekend and ongoing throughout their time at fairfield About their choices about the risks and importantly about the consequences One of the one of the things that i've heard parents say to me over the years is in terms of academics They've said I I say to my son or my daughter You can get C's, but that means to me that you want to go to a community college Well, I don't know if they're actually going to follow through or not But that's the expectation that they put on their son or daughter They expect them to do well to be good students that it's a lot of money a big commitment They're at a fine university a selective university and the parents expect that Other parents have said and the and the students have told Lisa and I this They've said we understand that there's alcohol and drug use, but if you get more than one write-up You'll signal me that you're not ready to live independently Because your life is that important to me We've also watched some parents who when the son or daughter is involved gets written up Get sanctioned maybe by that. I mean fines maybe educational opportunities The parents want to rush in and rescue the son and daughter And what that signals to their son or daughter is it's okay. I'm not taking it that seriously Right of passage kids are going to drink And we don't look at it that way So we would ask you let them experience the natural consequences by all means be there to support them Help them learn from unhealthy choices But continue the conversation. We really we really need to partner with you. We can't do it alone You see them you talk to them I think you're going to get a sense of what's going on if you do have concerns about their well-being Don't hesitate to contact Lisa and I We mean that we want to be a resource to you And importantly to work together to make this four years just positive and wonderful There's going to be a lot of mistakes That's how you learn we're going to be right there by their side But we really want to reduce that risky behavior We're going to go to some questions right now If any of you have any questions for Lisa or I or would like us to elaborate On any of the comments or information we've shared we're more than welcome to take them Great so our first question is will we be specifically notified if our student violates any alcohol or drug policy on campus? Yes, you will be the way that works is it under FERPA, which is the family educational um rights protection act that um the exception is for uh that you can be notified if there is an alcohol or drug infraction My understanding is that the office of the dean of students will send you a letter Um, I think that they have been asked in the past to actually make calls. So you may be getting a call Certainly if your son or daughter is transported to a hospital, you're going to be notified immediately Uh of that situation so that you can contact the hospital and that you're right there with us partnering on that health issue Great um and also for anyone watching now you can Like I mentioned before you can submit your questions in that chat room or email engagement at fairfield.edu if you have any more coming up in the conversation um A next question that we have is can my child call an escort service if they're uncomfortable at certain hours of the night on the weekends Yes, they they certainly can um the way to do that Is to contact public safety public safety provides um escort services and and we encourage Students to utilize that if they're if they're not feeling safe. Additionally throughout the campus There's some blue lights and so if a student is out doesn't have to be an emergency But you're uncomfortable. Maybe you want public safety to come walk you back to the residence hall or give you a ride Those blue lights can be activated and they're many many around campus Yeah, utilize the resources and ask for help And that's very much advocating for self which we we so encourage Great um And then the last one that I have at the moment is Does fairfield have greek greek life on campus that tends to play a big role in college drinking We do not have fraternities or sororities at fairfield university. Um, they do tend to Promote heavier drinking and since we don't condone that behavior We're very careful about Any word that we get about clubs or sport activities that are producing this group like initiative Drinking um and so we for one of those reasons is that we don't have the greek life on campus for that Something that's a little bit similar though. Um, you'll hear from The freshman is what they want to do when they get here on the weekend is They want to get up to the townhouse parties. These are upper classmen And it's kind of a more independent. It's like a condo unit That houses maybe four to six students. So the freshmen We'll see them in their rooms getting ready oftentimes pre-gaming Drinking their the shots and then they're all there's a big Walk up to the townhouse area and they try to get into the parties And you can imagine the upper classmen are there they decide who they let in or not if the party gets too big Public safety comes will break it up and really does a nice kind of inventory How's everybody doing in terms of you know, is anyone compromised or needs help? So so listen for that you're going to hear probably that they want to get up to the townhouses That's what's going on up there. They're they're parties and there's a lot of alcohol The other area is fairfield beach We have an awful lot of um seniors I would say the bulk of our senior class at this point is living in rented beach houses Down on the water. They're absolutely beautiful. It's a wonderful opportunity for our seniors To live away from campus to live independently To develop responsibility. It's also Tends to be a party area and so we also see Friday night Saturday night We see the cabs come to the circle in the middle of campus And they're picking up the freshmen the freshmen want to get down to the beach and see what's going on What happens is the seniors at the beach don't want the freshmen in there because they're 21 And as you can imagine the freshmen are not and if the the fairfield, please come our public safety You're not down there. This is municipal. Please come They could certainly get written up for serving Underage individuals Alcohol and there could be some really stiff legal consequences for them Nevertheless the freshman want to get down to the beach and if they know somebody some of them have brother sisters Cousins friends from home and they're able to Excuse me. They're able to get into a beach house So listen for that too. You know what's going on in that regard That's all the questions we have Okay. Well again, thank you for joining us. Thank you for Taking the interest taking the time to understand this part of the college experience And again, please count on Lisa and I during your your son's or daughter experience at fairfield We're eager to partner with you. Thank you