 Hi Elizabeth, how are you? Thank you for showing up. Yeah, it's been quite long. Actually, I think I was joining with the other link and I used to wait on enough. You were driving without peddling and you used to wait on enough? Yeah, I was like joining with the other link. The other link, all right. So we should go to the other link and make sure that somebody is there directing traffic. Yeah, mostly I used to be like the one who was in the other meeting in normal day, but today I got the mail. Oh, yes. And the mail and the group mail got you to this link? Yes, yes. Oh, that's excellent. Yeah, I asked Sean to change the link. Great, so today we're also on, we're going to be on Clubhouse as well because they want to listen in to this if it's okay with you. Put it a bit. Clubhouse is another app where people, they're having been having a meeting about this paper today. And they've been discussing it. Carbon footprint calculators and here's the here's the link to that. Are you on Clubhouse? No, not. I'm not with. Okay, let me go through like you are sharing the link, right? Yeah. Yes, and the paper that I wanted to discuss today, did you get a chance to read it? Let me check it. I don't think so, but let me check it. Oh, let me go to the calendar and check that link too. Recording in progress. That link definitely works. Hey, it automatically started the recording and yeah. Okay, so I put the link into the chat again. You have the Clubhouse link there that you could put into the chat if anybody shows up. The paper starts off with a model of, I guess you would call it reproductive carbon dioxide emissions. And then it goes into the math. And we've been discussing a calculator that I built based upon the Environmental Protection Agency's carbon footprint calculator. Let's be on Clubhouse. Okay, I'm back on Clubhouse. So I'm on Clubhouse at the same time. So right now we're just opening up the paper. It's in the chat on the Zoom link. It is on the Zoom. You can grab your screen also. Yes. I think we can all share our screens. I didn't put it on any sort of setting. So if anybody would like to share their screen, absolutely welcome to just go ahead and I'll stop sharing my screen. Do you like to start sharing yours? Can I see it? No. I actually joined from my phone. If you want me to share the screen, I will join back from my laptop. You know, you can share a screen. Let's see, go to Zoom. Meeting chat doesn't allow you to turn the screen sideways. So then go to share. One of the buttons at the bottom of the screen is share. And then you can share photo document, web URL screen. No, no, it is not that. Actually, I don't feel it is comfortable sharing from mobile. Oh, I see. Some reason I was disconnected. So do you want to put that? OK, OK, so all I have to do is go to share. Share screen. I want to share the PDF that had been sent out. Start now. Permit drawing over other apps. OK, whatever. I'll turn that on. And then what? That's where I got. OK, so now I'm sharing my screen. You're not sharing your screen. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Yes. OK, are you trying to share the PDF with the reproduction of the carbon legacies of individuals? That one? Yes, can you see that? I have it up on my screen if you want me to share it. Sure. OK, it looks like we'll have. I'm not sharing. OK, can you see it? Oh, wait, OK. Back to Zoom. Hmm. Am I am I sharing because it looks like I am? Yeah, yeah, we are able to see your screen. I was going to open it and you have started sharing good. OK, thank you very much. No problem. This happens to get in and have it up. So if I am. I think my personal video has to be on. Then we know what our goal is. Is are we going to walk through this together? So the math that's down near the bottom of the page shows us how to develop an algorithm that we can then use to code the JavaScript that is connects the front end of the carbon footprint calculator to the back end, where a person would actually be able to just use a carbon footprint calculator to put onto Hyperledger their carbon credit or their carbon debt or whatever they have. And then that's it. They don't have to. They wouldn't have to go into making an NFT out of their carbon credit, posting it on. They would just be it would just be an automatic carbon credit. And then their wallet would show up at the time. So I made a carbon footprint calculator that's the front end, just the HTML. And I tried using JavaScript that the Environmental Protection Agency used to connect theirs with their calculator. And I found that they use this government. It's not a global thing. It's the United States government. So I wanted to make this a global, globally available. So we turn the math into an algorithm. Do you want me to go down to a certain section here? The math at the bottom. It's down here. There you are. Right there? Yes. And then the JavaScript will hook up the front end with the back end based upon this algorithm that's based upon this math. Is it produced by the EPA, Yusuf? I will. So I got my carbon footprint calculator. First, what I did was I took all the code from the public code from the Environmental Protection Agency's website, their carbon footprint calculator. And then I modified it and added many things. We have a couple more things to add that people in Clubhouse have suggested today. And then I tried modifying the JavaScript. And I was able to get one page at a time to work. But I'd like for the whole thing to work so that all you have to do is put everything on one page like I have on mine. Let me put a link to it in the chat. You want me to stop sharing? No, no, no. I'm just going to put a link to it in the chat. OK. I can put it easy since it's my website. I don't have to do it as you remember my website. I'm putting you on mute for a minute on my end of the grab a call. Actually, it's pinned to the top of the page in Clubhouse. If somebody wants to put that in there for me, I'm not using the same device for Clubhouse. So there is a way to turn a mathematical equation into an algorithm. Does anybody know how to do that already? Or should I tell me, has anybody ever turned a mathematical equation into an algorithm? Turned a mathematical equation into an algorithm. OK, well, there's actually a tutorial on the website. I'll put that in the chat too, if I can find it. And I could stop sharing if you want to try to see if your share will work again. So literally, we just click on the share screen, green button on the bottom. And then you have a choice of sharing your screen or a specific app. And then after you usually just share my screen. So if somebody's trying to share your screen, all you have to do is ask somebody else to stop sharing theirs. Yeah. And then it's like that. If somebody wants to share, you know, how did I do that? No, I'm sharing your. Oh, I can't get into your. The link you sent. Do you want to try it? If you wanted to share that sense. Green 24 seven or slash calculated at HTM. Right. So that's the right link. It did. It wasn't giving me access. As I see your connection. Due to security reasons, it is not loading. Because you know that it's it's because it's HTTP, not HTTPS. Yeah, I have my I had my website up before they had a secure sockets layer. So I never bothered to go in to make a secure sockets layer for my website. That's the problem. Yeah, my my Norton was blocking it. Yeah, but if you can't share the screen, you can be better. Either. Or somebody on Clubhouse can do it because we're able to load it up on Clubhouse. Right. The link at the top of the page. Is any let me I wonder if I can. OK, I wonder if I can. Join both at the same time on the same device so I can work where it's loading up. So is anybody on both Clubhouse and. The zoom meeting at the same time. Back unless she has only the same device. I kind of see feeling joined us by the phone. So I wasn't aware of this room because it's early in the morning for me. And is yes, it's OK. So I'm inviting people. Yeah, sure. And then I'll be multitasking this morning. OK, all right. And the link to the zoom room is in the in the chat for the Clubhouse. So if you click on that link, maybe I could. The link exactly to the zoom room. I have the link to the payer subgroup. Wiki page. And if you have a Linux Foundation ID, you can actually change that page and you can add your own meeting to it and I'll just stay on Clubhouse because I, you know, I'll just stay on Clubhouse. OK, just listen in mostly. Sounds like a great topic, though. Perfect. So who here is looking at the math and understanding it? I certainly am not understanding it because I'm a working person. I'm not a school person. My great. My pay grade. Well, my grade of it, but I do trust that you understand your mathematics. So if you are. Well, it's it's I don't want to explain who I think that the numbers, you know, your numbers. OK, I'm putting into the chat at Clubhouse right now, the the link specifically directly to the zoom room. So you don't have to go to the Wiki page first. Somebody please click on that and tell me if it works. I'll do it. So it's I'm actually getting into the zoom meeting on my cell phone. Recording and progress. Great. It's a bit of a poster that doesn't think in our meeting here. OK, so somebody in Zoom, can you share the screen? For the mathematical equation, while I look for my power cord for my laptop. I'm going to sue you. Yeah, the paper, the paper that was up before. Somebody else want to share it or no, let's all share it. Yeah, it's because I'm going to drop sooner. OK, so the mathematical equation, what the first thing we do is. Put everything out into. Very basic. Equations, so something plus something equals something, something times something equals something and and then we'll add up or we'll put put all of those answers together in another one. So we're making a tree, a tree of opera of mathematical operations. Anybody have a whiteboard you want to do that on? We can actually. Put together, does anybody want to start up a whiteboard and start doing that? Or. Or put it into the chat so we can all copy and paste it. So, for example, so it's too small for me to see it. I can't see any of it, any of the math at all. I'm going to sell them. Take the maybe the first equation or the last equation, whichever one you like and enlarge it so everybody can see it. That they're down to the bottom school down. Oh, we're saying we're not seeing the math. Scroll down one more. And then I'm going to get in. Oh, OK. Then what we do is, you know, I guess everybody knows Python enough to know that you can just make an equation and you call it A, the person who's going to input A, say a number of children plus B, you know, what what location they're in and then equals C equals the number of tons of carbon dioxide equivalents per year from that child, from having those that number of children in that country at that time. Well, in that time, see. What I particularly wanted to get out of these equations was for how many years because we know that in the United States we're in a developed country having one child causes fifty eight point six metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent emissions per year. But for how many years you see. And this one shows you actually this. This paper shows you how many. How many years. That goes for that. So that was the missing part in my calculator. How many years do do I calculate? Because this is a lifetime calculator for your lifetime emissions. I want to make sure that the person is able to calculate their entire lifetime. So say they had a child ten years ago, is that ten times fifty eight point six metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents for the for their lifetime so far from from reproduction. So. But then what if that's what if it is it 18 years? Is it more than 18 years? Is it 20? Can somebody read the paper and tell me is it is it for the rest of your life? Is it from the moment you have a child for the rest of your life that that you are that the attribution goes to you for fifty eight point six metric tons of carbon dioxide of coolant per year. So if you live. You know, if you live 40 more years, then it would be 40 times that. Does it never end? Do you want to read that to us, please? But you just highlighted here in 2005. All the emissions of carbon dioxide for the combustion of fossil fuels. Well, twenty eight point one billion metric tons of four point three one metric tons per person per year, assuming a global population of six point five one billion. It's as per 2008. I think we have crossed eight billion. Three scenarios of future carbon emissions were considered for the 11 countries focused on this paper, the 11 countries they showed over here, China, India. And this is the fertility for children for a woman. An average person years. So like what they are telling is from the ancestral the it goes on like kind of exponentially gross. The carbon footprint for each and every individual. So this paragraph that optimistic one. It shows different in 2005 point five. It is. It's written that is the that is what is up and they accept per person per year from 2005 to two thousand hundred. It will change like that. It's like that nine point one billion population in two thousand hundred. There is a eighty five percentage reduction in global emissions between two thousand and two thousand hundred. Like the comparative rate of population growth, probably just can go into 2005. It is four point three one hundred. It can be it is predicted to be point five. And of course, it is extremely ambitious. Stock it depends on the countries because then the content values and the pessimistic values. OK, what is the. Context of the paper over here. Are you going to some organizations and things you're learning over here? Sorry, I just. OK, thank you. OK, so my wife, I cut off. So I'm back. Can I stop sharing? Well, no, I my wife, I cut out and I just got back. So there's nothing in the chat. Zoom doesn't sort of save the chat like the clubhouse does. OK, OK, we both are there in the meeting as you should. Maybe I can do it. Get on my cell phone. No, I just want to know like. Why you wanted us to go through this paper today? Sorry, can you say that louder, please? No, why? What is the context of seeing this paper today, reading this paper today? So the math in there shows you. OK, it shows you how to describe mathematically the carbon footprint of reproduction. Then we turn that into an algorithm and then we code that into the JavaScript and then we make that part of the carbon footprint calculator. And then when a person enters their carbon footprint, they enter all their data into the carbon footprint calculator for the lifetime. It comes up with a lifetime carbon credit or lifetime carbon debt. And then when they go in to ask for for health care, they can either use their carbon credit or there will be something on there that will say, well, you have carbon. You have or there will be a polluter who will be paying for the health care because the polluter. In your work that you have that in your website that you have given that, right, how to like go with the credit and that system for the carbon credits. So that can be operated over. And then when. Yeah, yes, please continue then when then when a anybody wins a lawsuit against a polluter, the pollute, it will they can use, I guess, as a GIS system to determine what locations were polluted. And then the people in that location are given free medical care to number one, find out what the damages are from that pollution. And then number two, to get the health care paid for to remediate that so that they don't become one of the statistics of dying of pollution related diseases. So there's one lawsuit that I have already. How artificial intelligence would scan the documents like the settlement agreement from the courthouse to public document and then would find the people who are located there because the attorney right now is getting paid $1,000 an hour to do this. And then once they find it would automatically pay through a block chain, it would pay the patient, the provider from the polluter's account. And how do you get the polluter's account? Well, see that's attached through the court proceeding. And the attorney is going to win make a thousand dollars an hour attaching that polluter's account to the block chain so that the payments can be made automatically. And then when when the person who's asking for the health care. Attaches their public key, it will show their carbon credit or debt. Depending upon what they've entered into their carbon footprint calculator. And then the polluter might actually if they already it the polluter might actually then have to pay directly to the patient as well as to the provider for the health care. Because there might be damages from previous exposures to the pollution. Where it cannot be that there's no health care procedure that can cure that disease. For them, the patient might have passed bills that they have already paid and get compensated for those. You're going to put a proposal to look it's. I actually made that part of my proposal to hyper ledger last year. You know, and that's a matter of public record. Is everything you put on hyper ledger stays a forever. So I can even actually if I search for my. Website, the only place it comes up isn't hyper ledger. Because I don't get exposure anywhere else. You know, I don't put it on public websites. I try to keep it private because it's it's a work in progress. It's under construction. OK, let's hope like a group will get some wonder and we will be looking on it. So we're having a second room tomorrow, same place. I think it's the same place. I'm not sure it might be at the other room, the one that does not record. I see. I put a link to the chat in the clubhouse to that. So that's it's. Yeah, if somebody could put that link into the Zoom room, that would be great because I, you know what? I could just copy it and mail it to myself and then open my mail. I might. On my laptop. If you'd like to have another clubhouse room to that, hopefully I'll be more prepared and nobody's getting paid for this. This is, you know, we're just doing this for fun. So and for me, yeah, I would just like to see a future in which you know, my health care is paid for by the polluter or the perpetrator whoever did the damage instead of the taxpayer, the poor, innocent taxpayer having to pay for everybody's health care, even though they didn't do the damage. So there's no incentive right now to not pollute because you have to pay for the pollution in any way. You have to pay for the health care caused by the pollution, whether you pollute or not. If you didn't have to, you know, if you only paid for the health care of the person who got injured by pollution, if you polluted, then there would be an incentive to not pollute another incentive. And so if that's all on blockchain and. You know, for example, if I were to, if I'm asking for. Health care and they they look at my blockchain ledger and they say, well, you actually did a lot of pollution. So you are actually going to be partially responsible for your own medical bill because you are part of the problem. Well, then there's an incentive. Well, you know, if I stop polluting, then does all my medical care get paid for by the polluter? Yes, I guess paid for by the polluter, not by you, because you didn't pollute. I'm trying to that's an incentive. That's an incentive we don't have right now in the United States. Does any anywhere have that incentive? For your health, I know in England, they have this incentive. If you smoke, the doctor doesn't want to see you anymore. Go away, right? So there's an incentive to take care of yourself. What about an incentive to take care of the environment at the doctor's office? And they tell you, yeah, I'll help you. You have to stop polluting first, or you're going to have to pay out of pocket. I suppose we have any other agenda for today. If not, shall we close this Zoom meeting? Yeah, so, yeah, we'll go ahead and close this today and then we'll tomorrow. I'll I'll transfer everything over to my laptop. So I won't have to depend upon other people to provide the links in the chat that I can open. In the paper, because one of the main things about this paper is if you look at the first diagram, it's saying that this all comes from an initial female. Well, that's see, it's kind of incorrect because if the initial female has a goes to, I guess, a sperm bank, it gets the sperm and the male and has signed a form waving her right to the male to the sperm donor being partially responsible for. You know what I'm saying? So if she's going to the sperm bank and and and it's an anonymous donor. Well, then that's true that she's responsible for half of it. And the other half is response. Nobody is responsible because it's an anonymous donor. So where where's the where is the waiver that she has to sign saying she's going to be responsible for all 100 percent of pollution instead of just 50 percent? No, overall, I'm not very much OK with that paper. The way it is, it's a good book, but. The way it has taken a lot more things to be taken care of, but interesting readings, everything. If you see that, like, there's a vast difference in difference between the few countries like and a few others. So if you see that the world's environment pollution and whatever happened like long back itself, it goes back to some particular countries. So I don't think so, like that is a very good thing to talk on a public forum. So if you see on the screen. Yeah. Um, so. Archie Keitenluss says that the scientifically estimated cost humanity ranges from 10,000 on up per ton for carbon credit. Right now it's selling for ten dollars per ton. A person could actually have an incentive to not have children because then they would if they only had one, they would be helping with genetic diversity. But if they had two, then they would be incurring the cost of having to pay for. Maybe paying for a carbon credit so that they could have that child. And then a person who has no children would be able to save that. OK, so I guess I'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, see you then. I hope to see you tomorrow at the same time tomorrow. This time I'm not very sure about because I have other calls. OK, but Monday I will be able to join and hope. Well, next Monday is the patient group that starts it in an hour. It starts at this time. OK, OK. So we have it on. Two weeks, so it's two weeks. It's every other week. Yeah, I will try joining tomorrow. If there is not much clash with other calls, OK. See you then. Have a nice day. Bye bye.