 So, I'm going to talk to you for a minute about E.J. Gold. John Lilly introduced E.J. to Lee and I, and when we moved to Grass Valley, he became a friend and neighbor. He has had numerous of our tanks at different times over the years. He is an American artist, author, musician, and spiritual teacher. E.J.'s large-scale jazz art paintings have served as backdrops for Herbie Hancock, Winston Marcellus, Nancy Wilson, Oscar Peterson, and Jazz at Lincoln Center. He has written and self-published over 50 books, including the American Book of the Dead. He is the founder of the Institute for the Development of the Harmonious Human Being. He has for many years acted as an independent spiritual teacher whose work and style bear a strong affinity with the teachings of Gurdjieff and the Fourth Way School of Thought. Like Gurdjieff, the fundamental emphasis of Gold's teaching is on the concept of spiritual work in daily life and a constant effort to increase and maintain heightened awareness in all activities. He is also a hilarious stand-up comic. He was invited to present at this conference by Floodon. He does not travel and was asked to send a digital recording. He invited us over to find out about the conference and the following is what happened. So I kind of let that thing, you know, lie there like that. So I'll tell you a story about John that I thought was very funny. First of all, he called because he was very excited that you guys had come up with something that didn't drip. This didn't drip ever. This is after the Japanese, that Japanese bizarre disaster tank. Yeah. It was a fiberglass. Yes. Yes. Somebody too. Yeah. Total disaster. But right after that, you guys built one that was fabulous. And that's the one that I experienced and the UFO was behind that. The best part of it was that it didn't impinge upon my body. It didn't remind me whether gently or violently. It did not remind me that I had a body and that it was there in this tank and so on. The faster, to me, the faster the tank gets out of the way, the better the tank is. And that's exactly why I actually started with and kept with the Samadhi tank. In spite of the fact that I knew you guys as well as I did, this gets the body out of the way, like 20 years of meditation would do. But here, you get into the tank and nothing like that, nothing bad is going to happen to you in the tank. First of all, that's a very good thing to know. Nothing bad will happen to you in the tank. No, I'm sitting there going, wait a minute, it's dark. The temperature wasn't right for me. I like a nice warm bath. It was cool. I got used to that and it was okay. And then I was waiting for the drips and they weren't happening because this new tank that they had developed was this mind-boggling thing that was just driving me crazy, waiting for the drip and nothing. And so... You can't be satisfied. No, it's true. I saw it as an escape velocity. I saw it as a way of getting off the planet very easily because it does two things, two wonderful things. One is it isolates you from the environment and gives you a safe environment within that. It's a bubble. It's a great bubble, a safety bubble. And secondly, most importantly, is it takes gravity off. It takes those six miles, that six mile high column of air off of you momentarily and gives you freedom from gravity. Not complete freedom, but certainly a lot of freedom from gravity enough that it can set you in the orbit almost immediately. As you get acclimatized to the tank, you know this, maybe you won't necessarily know this, it takes a while to get acclimatized to the tank. You start out working in a gymnasium. You don't get results the first day. Come on. Don't be a nut. You're not going to get results the first 20 seconds of doing anything. So you get used to the tank, acclimatized to the tank. You start bonding. This is a joke? No. You start bonding. I work with bonding all the time. I work with bonding with animals all the time. I work with bonding with feng shui spaces all the time. I work with fountains all the time. Bonding is an issue. Always is. Whether you know it or not, you're getting into a relationship which is going to last years, maybe your whole lifetime. That can be a plant that you brought into your house, but it's certainly going to be something you get so intimate with that you get inside it for hours at a time. In order to be able to reveal to yourself your innermost, well, we'll get to that in a second, right? This is where I went with it. A lot of people use this just to chill. This is very cool and chilling is good. They also use the things for relief of chronic ailments and illnesses and pains and aches and miseries and so forth, and that's also very, very good. You just zero out the body by getting into the tank and acclimatizing yourself to learning how to do that takes a few times, right? An individual can get into a tank and eliminate 20 years of learning how to zero out the body. I'm in the tank right now. Are you? Oh, yes. And in the tank, I am the tank. I am one with the tank. And you only learn that by actually experiencing getting into the tank, having it happen. You know, oh, hey, that was kind of fun, sort of. I've had funer times enough, this is very enlightening to say the least, and eventually you will be enlightened. In other words, one of the process of enlightenment is to get lighter. No? Seriously. I mean, that's seriously true. And to relieve oneself of the burden of the body and the burden of the mind, no faster way to do that. Now, in the tank, one thing that can happen in the tank, this is what I was going to tell you happened, one of the guys who was doing a tank trip on the previous day and gotten out of the tank and then showered. You had to shower afterward to get the salt off. Still have to do that, right? Yes. Yes, that hasn't changed. So the technology is really pretty much the same. Yes. You're trying to fix it just in time. Yes. So, and you perfect small things rather than big things, you perfect small things and so everything works and stays working. You don't throw one thing out of you because you can do that. With improvements, you can throw other things out of whack with an improvement as engineers know. So one of the things I found very, very useful with the tank, amazingly and immensely useful was I could take a group of people who had six tanks at one time set up and I could take a group of people and say, look, get in the tank. First of all, get acclimatized to it after the fifth session in the tank, just acclimatizing, doing nothing, just lying there, just enjoying the tank. Don't do anything. Don't try to do anything. Just get in the tank and enjoy. Okay? Get out of the tank. Don't ask questions. Don't do anything. Don't try to reason it out. Don't try to rationalize anything. Just don't try to explain anything. Just get in the tank. Enjoy. Enjoy for one hour. Get out. Now you go shower. So this guy was doing, he was showering. He got out. He showered. He drove home. Had a beautiful Maserati. I think you know who I'm talking about. Had a beautiful Maserati. And he drove this bomb home and he woke up in the tank. He did this, how many? Three times? Was it? Do you know the story? It was three times, right? That this happened to him. And you did it too. Not even a Maserati though. No, but he did the same thing. And the first time that I tried this, I didn't, but on my fifth tank experience, I did that double looping. And what happens, you get a time loop out of the thing. And you start projecting a full blown tactile hallucination similar to the way that the Earth is produced, or the way the universe is produced. It's a full blown tactile hallucination too. When you're meditating in that space, it becomes an amazing tool. And that's what I find is a transformational tool. It's just unsurpassed. There's nothing like it on this planet. There's a very, very high level, and this I agree with, a very high level of selfishness that creates what one is, that is the character builder, that builds your character, that makes your character do what your character does, and sets your character up basically, chooses, selects the character's traits, or what they call in England, traits. And that goes very well with the Buddhist concept that your tendencies are you, that your tendencies, the things that you are likely to do, you're likely to do again. One of the things that I'm hoping that somebody would do is combine some of my inductions, like the relaxation induction, things like that, with the tank and see what happens, how people respond to that. I think that would be very exciting. Because I think that being led through a series of inducted journeys would help people. Also, there are journeys, there are extra-dimensional journeys as well that I've set up, and I think that would go well with the tank. Although I don't know anybody who's experimented with that at this time, it's just started. I've just released those things, so it's only been weeks. So we haven't had any feedback on it. But that would be kind of a fun thing to see if anybody can use those for that purpose, particularly to do metaprogramming. And there are, I do have, inductions that have metaprogramming inductions, of course. I have a good time without some salt. It's magnesium sulfate that bothers me. No, it's not true. It's called an in-joke. It's not true. Magnesium sulfate doesn't bother me nor does MGSO4. That, in case you guys are kind of... A friend I had, a friend he was, this friend he is no more. For what he thought was H2O, was H2SO4. Lying in Epsom salt bath for one hour, you will feel great. And then on top of that, in a safe environment where you can completely relax, completely let go, that's the other thing, too, that I find very, very good, is that in that environment, because you've built it as a safe environment, you can sit up quickly and get out of there fast, you have escape things and all kinds of panic things built in, which is fantastic. And many of the tanks did not ever put those panic things in, like the way you did to let somebody freak out, get out of there quickly. That's a relief. So you feel safe because you know you can do that anytime. And in fact, Tony told me, she said, when I was in there, she said panic. I said, but I, she's done a panic. Okay, okay, I'll panic. I started groping around, and then the thing came open really easily, and I popped out, it's all a big deal. Hardly any weight to achieve. And I'm out of the tank there. All right, now get back in the tank again. I'll panic again. I said, yes, panic drill. And so then you feel completely safe. And when you've done three panic drills, you feel safe in there forever. No problem. No, you can get out if you need to. One of the things I appreciated was the fact that it is a safe environment. It feels safe in there. And you can breathe in there. It's very important to be able to breathe. I love to breathe. I'm so addicted to oxygen, I cannot tell you. The doctor that birthed me was in on the conspiracy, spanked me to get me to breathe this crap. And I haven't been able to stop since. I'll beat it until that day. That'll be the last thing you do. Yeah, really. I'll beat this oxygen addiction if it's the last. I like that. It's a t-shirt. So the engineering is amazing. I've watched Glenn as an engineer, as a fellow engineer. I've watched him engineer and craft these things and come up with solutions. You don't have any idea what has to go into a tank in order to make the thing. You think, oh, how do you just put the stamp of things? Put them together. Not true, right? It's a little more than that. Yeah, it's a little more than that. I'll put a lot more. And everything has to be engineered down to a micron. It really does. And to make it work consistently forever without having to fly out there and fix it for you, nobody wants to do that. Or have you ship it back, God forbid? And then you fix one nut and then you send it back out again. But hey, you have to design so that that doesn't happen. So you don't have those things happen or as few times as possible. Inevitably, something will land again. What else do you need? One thing I find is that I still have to stretch my face to get really relaxed. I thought you better say, get it over the skull. Most of the bugs I know have that same problem. But once I do get it all stretched, it's like I'm able to get more into the being space. It seems like I have to get out of the personality by doing that. That's why I recommend the inductions because they can help guide you, lead you out of the I am me and into the I am all from that. But it's in stages, it's easy stages, and you can go as far as you want with it. And one of the things, you're in the forefront of something, you don't even know what it is yet, which is extradimensional XD technology. XDT is coming. Know what it not, like it or not, want it or not, it's coming. Because extradimensional is how you travel. Actually, how you travel in space. You don't travel by going from one thing in space to another. You travel by going outside and coming back in again. There are machines, devices that can be built to do just exactly that. They are in other civilizations. There are civilizations that are billions of years older than this civilization, billions of years. And they still exist. They're still in existence. Anyway, that tank is a life changer. It's a wonderful experience. And the centers are doing a great deal to, well, bring the word of God to the even. You know what I mean? Write that down. Yeah. Don't forget, in the mind, there are no limits.