 This is Mike with the 21 report behind the scenes in Orlando, Florida for the 21 Convention 10 year anniversary event I'm sitting alongside Zan Perion Zan. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me sir It's great having you here Zan So before we get into some questions, could you give the guys watching a brief overview of your talk? Oh my goodness Hmm I basically I went on stage and I was kind of hemming and hawing because I didn't have a prepared speech and I think I was the only thing I was trying to describe on the stage Was the kind of things that I'm trying to understand for myself right now. You know like I wanted to explore Concepts that I that I'm fascinated about but I but I don't have fully shaped or formed in it I don't know if I did that I was successful, but I didn't have a nice, you know Cut and dried speech lined up and yeah, so that's what I did So in your talk you mentioned About your masculine edge your dark side How can a man develop what you call as masculine edge or dark force? Well, that's a good question because we all have it. We have that since we're born. We have this this this beautiful dangerous dark Masking sexual energy we suppress it all our lives. So it's not like we have to develop this it's if we have to To reject this concept that it's toxic or that it's it's a bad thing that you know Society and media perpetuates upon men that you have a sexual nature to desire to thrust and to penetrate into the world which we had since we were little boys and and to to not buy into the fact that that is or or the The concept that is out there that it's a bad thing or it's shameful. They're shameful of our sexual nature So it isn't developing its uncovering it not apologizing for it But at the same time having full respect full empathy full charm full kindness so that you're not this aggressive, you know energetic Creep basically so you mentioned kindness and charm What's the difference between being a nice guy and being what you're calling is charming Well, the nice guy has has you know concentrates on trying to be interesting funny Talk rapport all this kind of stuff and there's nothing energetically from his from his from his His center of gravity that goes down into the world and like that is completely suppressed and cut off So it's all upper energy. It's top-heavy. He flinches at the girls. Oh, I have a boyfriend. I'm sorry, you know, and there's nothing grounding. There's no There's I say it again. There's no penetrative force and It's necessary and modern man is all upper and you know energy. They leave from their heads Hi, would you like to see me again? And they talk and you can have by a drink and and there's nothing that comes from that great Center and I it's hard to describe because I'm talking about vibration Mm-hmm, and I wrote an entire book about the vibration really and and and the energy and energy sounds a woo-woo But it is exactly the the it's it's it's consciously projected toward women So you spent your whole life almost dedicated your life to understanding women. Yeah, I did. Why is that? I don't know. That's a good question I just adore women and I've adored women forever Even though I've been rejected all my you know my youth my 20s was like just a blur of just massive insecurity and not being included and wishing and wondering what I did wrong and But I never gave up, you know and never gave up I've adored women since forever and I love and and this you know I'm not saying that women are I don't put women on a pedestal I don't put a woman on a pedestal, but I put the female spirit on a pedestal. That is the saving grace That's it. That is something that is rare Missing just like the masculine grace is missing. Mm-hmm. So but the feminine spirit You know that to me is like is I just adore that to to bathe in the Redemptive qualities of what true feminine spirit has for man and it inspires man We can go on we can build the Taj Mahal we can go you know fight wars We can do all this kind of stuff because we have the inspiration of feminine grace behind us and in this modern age That's gone So what's next for Zan Perry on what have you got in the works? I'm trying to write a second book Okay, and I said on the stage. I'm not blocked because I know what I'm trying to create. I just don't know how to I'm missing something. I'm missing some kind of understanding to know how to form this And so I I sit I lay awake and I day and night. So I think about it's like I want to try and like my first book you know, it was it's The labor of love took me 10 years to write alababsa girl and And I and I intellectually I know I created or I did what I set out to do But the next book has me fascinated. I'm like, wait a minute There's something else here that and I can't quite so answer your question I'm trying to write a second book And I'm fighting for a day and night. That's all I know So it's still still in the work. Yeah trying to figure that out something's cooking and I don't know how I don't know I don't know how to Finish the cooking Cool. So Zan, this has been your second time speaking at the 21 convention How has this event compared to last year's event in 2016? Oh, you know, there's a bigger crowd here and I think There's a more vibrancy here and I'm not sure what it is. Like it was quieter last last year, I think and this year the guys are much more Engaged I guess you could say And the speakers are much more coming together and engage if I don't know there's something there's something living in this in this one that that I did not say the last one wasn't but there's something There's something There's some vibrancy which bodes well for the future. You know, I don't have to say it Awesome. So if the people watching want to learn more about you more about your work, where's the best place they can go? well arzamirata.com my company my philosophy is called arz amirata a r s a m o r a t a and it's fake latin for the art of love arz amirata zanperian.com is my website and And for a limited time I have I know an alabastergirl.com, which is where I give my book away for free pay for shipping only And I've only got a thousand copies left 100 to 2,000 I printed but I signed him and sent him from Romania and as long as I've got those thousand left Then I'll uh you can go to alabastergirl.com and Put your name and address and I'll send you a book Brilliant. So with that said You can now see zan's talk first on 21university.com or by clicking the link underneath this video Zan thanks once again for being with us. We really appreciate it So that's been mike with zanperian signing off for the 21 report. Thank you. Thanks guys