 okay so we are live live after death not we are live again and i'm going to try to make it a bit more of a habit to go live and do my ink monsters in the morning uh this is yesterday's ink monster which was done late at night and you i i think you can see that i wouldn't say it's a crummy monster but it's a crummy monster okay waiting for people to get into the live into the chat a good morning ilva great to see you here good afternoon from india excellent excellent morning morning morning hello so i'm going to try to oh good morning from vietnam morning states american with terrible sleep schedule good morning from the philippines and germany yeah so where are everyone at everyone's saying where they're at so i didn't even need to ask but eight p.m ish in australia finland belgium yeah finally caught a live stream love your work good morning from the uk excellent oh man god pink i like uh i think that's uh good name for something man god pink who is that that is man god pink morning from russia i think i'm going to i start doing these morning ink monster lives kind of regularly not every morning but but try to get a few of them in each week some of them will be really early norwegian time others will be around this time because it is it is good for me to get the ink monster done as early as possible shall we do a ink monster crappy land of greece why is greece a crappy land it's a fantastic land i i love greece how long did this take you that one is from yesterday i probably took about i don't know two three four five minutes let's do one now okay so um do you have something scary let's do something scary what what what countries have a travel to i haven't been in awful a lot of countries i've been in i am from norway i've been in in sweden i've been in uh danmark uh holland the uk scotland spain i've been on creek and i've been uh in the united states and in canada i think that's all the countries let's see if we find something here do you see something scary in this ink blot please draw a nun that's too scary can't love the color of your nails thank you so last time i was live i was live in the evening norwegian time and it was a little bit uh it was a little bit uh more crowded here but this seems like a good pace heavy hexah great to see you moona a sad alien we were going to do something scary but maybe we can do something alien scary okay we have an eye here looks like pinhead with a crack in his face yes it does so now we have two eyes they look very sort of human like so we'll try to tone that down we'll sort of a more snout like face i think and then the alien needs a weird mouth let's do a circular mouth you can all come up with suggestions and ideas and also you know questions and things to talk about while drawing the comments on youtube are a bit strange for me so ideally i should have i should set up my computer so that i can read the comments and access them easily but today my computer is being used to transfer my files from my secondary phone so ideally when i do these lives i will have a computer set up to read comments and i will have uh i will have a secondary phone to shoot time lapses so that i can make shorts out of these videos but today we're just doing it with the phone can you put a lot of eyes well i can't put a lot of eyes here because there's not room for a lot of yeah there is room for a lot of eyes let's do a lot of eyes so at least four that's i've counted correct like one two three a lot humanoid creature falling to space looks like it has four eyes it has four eyes now but we can can we fit more maybe you can make it insectoid yeah it could be i could do other parts of it more insectoid that is a good way to make aliens the insectoid should have some sort of feelers i think four is certainly a lot more than the average it is it is so he has these feelers here that's a bit freaky looking what artists do you take inspiration from so all my all my main art heroes are comic book artists and i talk about them on a lot of lives so you have people like frank miller you see a lot of frank miller in my work you have sam Keith you have john bushema uh will ice never frank facetta you have heroka samura and you have some people who are not comic book or manga artists like uh hr gieger is a influence definitely he but but he is sort of a a influence that was like extremely important for one year when i was 14 or 15 and then sort of disappeared for me but i can still see gieger's influence in my art so so he is still there i see gieger all the time some other non-comic book artists is uh heron of us bosh uh vinson van goch um yoshi shinkawa who did the metal gear solid art one of the most recent influences who i didn't know until a few years ago and who sadly died last year is kim yong gi who i feel a lot of affinity to and he's the last new artists i found that uh where i've sat down and tried to copy and understand how he works because we worked so very differently differently and so very similarly at the same time um there's a lot of cartoonists who have had a huge impact on me i mean uh the norwegian uh political cartoonist tradition definitely and uh people like sasjo anagonis from mad magazine magazine and robert crumb is cartoony and had a huge influence and uh don martin norwegian artists like soffernilson and my friend jens costiva and also you know i get inspired by a lot of the artists that i'm lucky enough to call friends like uh my friend kostin chironow who does a lot of album art uh he is amazing in just a fountain of creativity uh my friend sbigniew bilak who does also a lot of art cover art but but it is a lot slower because he takes so much time and um uh becky clunan who is a wonderful person and one of the best comic book artists around and he's a brilliant writer and everything um david theory who does the best trolls since kittleson and vadenshor so a lot of different friends inspire me how did i find my medium so i wanted to be a comic book artist and i did work as a comic book artist an illustrator for a lot of years i had to give up comics because of my mental health because it was literally destroying my mental health but um i found my medium through trying to learn comic book art so when i was like 12 years old i had already spent years studying the bridgeman anatomy books but i got the how to draw comics to marvel away i bought wizard magazine i i read everything i could find about how american comic books were made and i heard that uh some of the best inkers used a brush and they used the wincer and newton series seven brush so i bought one of them and i started experimenting with inking and trying to learn inking and i suddenly found that i you know storytelling is what i get the most kick out of but um in the art process i enjoy inking more than penciling so i i did a lot of inking and then around the age of 18 or 17 i found the pentel color brush which is a pen which is a brush pen that you can sort of take with you and ink stuff and i was really at that time into japanese and chinese buddhist painting like zen buddhist painting and sumia and that kind of stuff so i started drawing directly with the brush and doing landscapes and spending a few summers earning my living selling landscapes to tourists um and then i got my illustrator and comic book career started around 2004 and i did a lot of different stuff a lot of cartoony stuff a lot of illustration a lot of jack of all trades stuff basically so and that that actually took me into digital art and i worked digitally for many years and then finally when i think this was in 2010 i started drawing concert art from extreme metal bands and extreme metal concerts by accident and that sort of pushed me back into the analog art i was already slowly going back into the analog art and into using the brushmore but that sort of pushed me head long into doing organic stuff again and it also gave me a way to do art for free use because during the concert concert i drew a lot of art and bands and fans and promoters sometimes wanted to use it and putting it up on my gallery for free use suddenly sort of expanded my the people interested in using my art and then slowly it's been going more and more towards working just with the brush and doing more and more just my own stuff and you know what i'm hoping for now is that with my youtube going well and with my patreon going well and with my online store at least not going well thus far but at least having started i hope that i can make my living doing only my own art from now on that would be ideal uh so there's a question about do i see any benefits from AI art generators yes a lot of benefits like for me i'm personally not concerned about how AI art will affect me because people like my art because it's at least some people hopefully some people like my art because it's an extension of who i am as a person it's how i communicate and AI is not good at communicating because we know that the AI isn't human but for a lot of artists who are working in fields like concept design for computer games and illustration and basically you know if you're working concept design for movies all of that stuff it's going to be a disaster for though any artist who is a tool for someone else's creativity is going to either have to up their game a massive amount or will suffer and be replaced by outsourcing which is already happening and AI but that will also force artists to take the plunge and try to do more like me try to not necessarily like me but like a lot of different artists for instance on social media who try to make our art an extension of our personality try to make our art a part of how we communicate with the world uh i saw a comment now that the main issue with AI is the stolen um datasets and that is sort of true and untrue because it is a problem that copyright law as it stands today which i'm against has no way of dealing with that type of mass content um a simulation you could call it but the main problem is not the collecting of that data it is how that data will be used um and you can see this for instance if you watch corridor crew who is doing amazing special effect and special effect artist react videos and stuff like that if you watch them they did a AI manga movie which was amazing five or 14 minutes 10 minutes eight minutes whatever of a very fun rock paper scissors story and it's amazingly done and it shows the huge potential of AI animation and the problem there is how they are making sure the art is consistent they are basing their art style on a particular anime movie from the early 2000s and that's not a copyright problem that is a attribution problem and i think that if we're going to have intellectual property laws and we need some sort of intellectual property laws those should be based around attribution not around i just have to decline a call they should be based around attribution not around the exclusive use of anything and if we based our copyright laws around attribution we could have ways to make sure a living artist aren't cheated out of their style in a sense i found your channel a month ago and shorts really helped me come from a fellow scandy thank you so much for the super chat please do give super chats that's awesome i mean i get a lot of questions about how i earn my living when i give my art away for free and one of the ways is selling originals through my store selling prints we have t-shirts i haven't announced them yet so that's a secret between you and me and that's one way but another way is through things like patreon where you can support me with one dollar a month and now through the youtube through the super chat oh yeah hello i thought i got one more super chat but it was the same but the super chats will help the the income i get from the advertising will help um so so and the patreon and everything like that so i'm using a to create baby photos of celebrities but i try to be transparent i think that that sounds like an awful awful awful idea i'm terribly sorry uh i think that sounds um unethical i think a lot of how celebrities are treated both from their own exploitation of themselves and from corporate exploitation of them and from a fan perspective is deeply problematic and unethical but i'm not going to blame you for it because because everyone does it um so there was another question about what do you do when you hate your own art and and that is a relevant question for most artists because we all hate our art what i'm focusing on right now i'm not focusing on the parts that are working or that look cool i'm focusing on everything that is not working because by identifying the parts that are not working i can improve the art and make a final piece that hopefully works so focusing on the parts of your art that you hate is completely natural that's what you're supposed to do as an artist now with when you're a new artist you get the added problem that for every artist our imagination is always greater than our skill if your imagination isn't greater than your skill that then you're probably doing something wrong in a sense so when we get better with our skills our imagination our ability to see the possibilities of our skills will already have improved beyond the new skill level we achieve so our imaginations are always more powerful than our skills but when you are a new artist and you're learning a lot in a short amount of time that means you will do something that maybe you're happy with and you're happy with it while you're making it and you think to yourself ah this came out pretty good and then a month or even a week later you look back at it and you just say oh that's the worst piece of art ever because you have improved that much so that's a good sign but eventually as you grow in skills your imagination will still be better than your skills but the gap will be less and less and then you at least for me I got to a point where I can say that I can be I don't have to love all my art I can be you know satisfied I can I can look at a piece and say that oh it's not perfect but it's good enough it works it does what I wanted to do and I'll do better next time and then it becomes easier not to hate your heart but still I mean when I look back through my art that I may you know for instance I hate scanning my art because I look at all the faults again I have to relive the faults and once in a while I find a piece that I like but most of them are like oh why didn't I do this why didn't I do that so second guessing and doubting your own art is a great big part of the artistic process let's see which ink monster number is this oh it's number oh heavyhexa super chat that's new to me let's try it two centak mono why do you allow um free use of your art I'll answer that uh after I've named this monster okay so this is number 1250 and what shall we call him what shall we call him her maybe it's her I don't know let's wait for a name glissie all day and we'll call him we'll combine two of the names bill glissie I like the fact that he has a sort of humanoid name now bill glissie is this alien why is he called bill because his mother was a fan of william shatner okay so we had a question here which I get all the time and that is uh why do you allow free use of your art wouldn't you like to get a return on your investment I love getting your return on my investment but I don't think copyright is the way to do it and some of that is how copyright works so copyright works if you have a if you control the supply of something so if you're a publisher or a you know a game publisher a movie publisher a book publisher a comics publisher music publisher then copyright makes a lot of sense because by not allowing people to copy your work you can control how many copies are out there and use that to set the price but for a individual artist it doesn't make sense in the same way because whenever people copy my work that means my originals go up in in in value and not only that my value as an artist goes up so the more you copy my work the more the originals are worth and the more I am worth so you know a simple way of seeing how much a piece of art is worth is how much is it copied the reason why edward monks scream is worth so much is that it's on so many postcards so many posters and it's everywhere the reason why the Mona Lisa is so much worth is that it's everywhere you know so so I'm releasing my art for free use in partly because I think it's morally right and partly to get a better in return on my investments okay shall we do another ink monster is writing a book something you'd potentially be interested in I personally think a lot of your ink monsters would fit well into a dark fantasy eldritch horror story I I do like writing but right now I'm very satisfied with writing the shorts and trying to write longer-forming videos for youtube and stuff like that so yeah is there an internal dialogue you've found effective convincing yourself that a drawing is done yet for me it's basically whenever I see that the strokes I'm putting down on the paper the lines I'm putting down is on the paper is starting to take away from the result then I probably should stop I don't always stop at that point but I probably should okay one more ink monster where is a cute monster okay we can do a cute monster do you ever listen to music while drawing and painting uh yeah I do that a lot not when I'm on lives because that would get us copyright stricken but whenever I have a project I'm working long term on I I tend to choose a soundtrack to work on lo-fi beats not so much lo-fi beats I mean it's if I'm working very casually on something I might listen to country or something like that but if most of my work have a sort of a metal alternative metal atmospheric metal black metal soundtrack when I work to it because that gets me in the right mood okay a cute monster which color shall our cute monster have do your english exam quit staring at your screen and do your english exam purple purple purple purple purple purple is the color never caught alive before I love your work and especially philosophy behind it thank you I will try to do more of these lives I think this purple is almost done oh but we'll get something out of it yep gotten something out of it I'm new can you please make a dragon not today I've already made one monster and uh I'm going to make a cute monster and then I'm going to go do other stuff I don't love the depression but I love that you share it I don't love the depression either but I do think it's important to share it let's share the depression share the thoughts surrounding the depression okay I think that's important we're gonna make a cute monster now very very cute monster now that's have you been asked this before um how would you recommend artists to learn character design I think I talked about it on yesterday's not yesterday's Wednesdays live I think I talked about it and I would recommend studying everything studying everything not studying particularly character design studying you know how people dress how people do stuff how people act how they walk how they how and study animals study all the animals of the world and just study art history study cave paintings study Japanese art and Indian art and uh Native American art and you one of the things that I think will help the most with character design is to get your influences to be as wide as humanly possible and that's sort of always perhaps a good thing but especially for character design because the wider your influences are the more you can make something that feels both authentic and special which is a very very hard thing to do but I'm not a character design artist so I don't know you know I'm just taught character design in school briefly but but I have to preface it with that's not my forte that's not not not my it's not my specialty I I will try to be doing more of these morning streams because because I need to do more of these ink monsters in the morning just to get my days to be better is it a mushroom I don't know does it look like a mushroom it looks like a mushroom okay a little brain monster it looks like a little brain monster as well and the all is the most important part because that's what we're doing now we're going to create a cute monster that was the challenge and that's what we're trying to do cute cute monster monster monster cute I'm a cute monster monster monster cute this is my theme song it is annoying I won't be singing it very very long sorry about that and thank you for the super chat I got from I didn't see who gave it to me some of the comments go by a little bit too quickly but this is a very nice pace for a live I think I think I'm Australian so a few live streams at this hour I do it for the Australian audience I don't I'm sorry I was kidding yeah where are everyone located we haven't done a count do we have all the continents of the world represented I always miss with one and that one is Antarctica I have too few viewers on Antarctica Sweden Philippines North America Germany Lithuania Florida Southeast Asia I mean I oh that's the problem I was paying attention to the chat and I dropped my brush that is embarrassing really embarrassing let's see what we can make of it happy accidents okay let's channel our inner Bob Ross could it be carrying a bunch of rotten flowers it could it could speaking of Bob Ross it almost kind of looks like him yeah it does it does Bob Moss and since you can see is Bob Moss he has to be carrying a brush what are your advice for new artists so I actually did you can go through my video archive and find I was trying to do a podcast and I did one episode of the podcast called the free art show podcast and one of them was about how to start at art and there you have my starter advice but the main thing is when you're absolutely new do what's fun then when you find what you think is fun start studying it study it and study it and study it until it becomes unfun of course because that happens and then then play around some more and find what's fun and then eventually sort of the rhythm you get into is to the the rhythm you get into is to divide your art into three stages at least that's my theory in that and I'll stick to it so the the three stages are play where you play around and you try to have fun and that might be playing around with a new tool it might be playing around with ideas when you're going to design something it might be playing around with just doing silly stuff like this but playing is really important in art because art is in essence a sort of play and then you have the study phase where you should find out everything you can about something and then you have the execution phase where you actually do work that is presentable for the world and where and even in your studying process and in your playing process you should once in a while execute and make a finished picture because that's how you notice how far you've gotten when you only do when you only do like sketches and stuff like that you never notice where your skills are because you can always like yourself about your sketches and say yeah this sketches isn't that good but if I made a finished piece it would be that good but your never your finished pieces are never at your peak skill you never manage to channel all your skill into one piece there will always be some fields where you manage to do it properly and other fields where you know where it's it didn't come together as you want because all pieces we do we have we have time limits we have the stresses of life we have you know making a good piece on a bad night's sleep is different from making a good piece on a good night's sleep so all these things affect our art and we also stare ourselves blind with our art so so you need to do a finished piece once in a while even while studying in order to see where you're at because without doing that who knows where you're at you can never make a good finished product until you made some really bad ones and you don't know if you can make a good finished product until you've made a few good ones which sounds strange so make finished products once in a while so play and discover new stuff then study that stuff and then put it out into action and make a complete finished work and do those three things again and again in any order in any order and then you will get better you inspired my friend legend you inspired my friend legend before oh this chat disappeared let's go to live chat again you inspired my friend legend before he left us and this world eight days away from 16 oh that i'm so sorry to hear that i'm very sorry for your loss i'm that's terrible i love bob moss yes bob moss is great i'm very happy with bob moss so if we compare our two drawings for the day and we will not do a third one because we talked so much but you know this one bill glissie it's technically a harder piece but i'm much more satisfied with this one this one i don't hate it it's okay i'm not embarrassed by it but this one it's just cool it's just funny and it's cool and you know do you follow or align with any political commentators like youtube commentators i i i don't know um i don't know who is hassan piker the the one who does the a lot of videos on communism i've seen i think it's hassan something i've seen a lot of his videos and didn't really find too much mutual ground uh in terms of thinkers that i align with in a wider sense you know um nomchomsky is definitely uh a thinker i admire uh people say i look like allen moore and i do align with a lot of his ideas but that is sort of uh accidental um which other i loved uh david graber before he passed away uh i have been getting more into david wengrove as well uh so um i think he's interesting if you do many pieces in a day you're gonna like at least one hopefully yeah i'm seeing his art as well i'm a realism artist but seeing his art is wild thank you so i i i'm not terribly good at realism i can't do realistic portraits and realistic landscapes and stuff like that but but realism has never been my forte because if you're going to push it into the more you're going to push it into hyper realism you need a sort of patience that i don't have because i have a lot of patience doing stuff while there's still freedom to change stuff but when it comes to just executing a pre-planned thing i get very bored easily so oh let us see here live chat let's have realism is for fascist i think there are types of art that speak more to a conservative mind realism is definitely part of it except that if you're doing social realism that would tend towards more lefty politics a lot of my favorite artists are definitely not leftist i mean i absolutely adore frank miller and he has some awful awful politics uh hb lovecraft was awful racist and awful politically and i absolutely adore his stuff i like a lot of black metal music and their politics is bullshit almost every time being bored is what inspired me to do realism art yeah so if you're going to do realism art or highly intricate like mandala art or or very detailed artists you'd need to have a sort of calm enjoyment of that process and you need to be in love with the process of executing your vision in a way that i'm not so i absolutely look up to and admire and adore a lot of realist artists and artists with detailed intricate styles that i can't do but i don't have i have a little bit of envy but then if i try to go that way i i lose interest and i start disliking my art the more it goes in that direction so which black metal artists do you listen to so some of my favorite art black metal artists would be rotten christ is definitely a favorite they have an awesome discography i like urfaust urfaust which is a fantastic black metal with um uh waltz beats uh very often i i like um swedish shining uh i like my friends in enslaved and talk is fantastic uh i've gone gotten a real impression not impression a real appreciation for ishan from emper after i got to know him he makes fantastic music i think um i like a lot of uh more atmospheric black metal i mean ruins of the beaverast and vea mood i like newer dark throne because it's punk and rock and roll um yeah i haven't listened to wada uh much at all so i probably need to do that do you play video games yeah yes i play a lot of video games i'm currently playing through horizon forbidden west and i'm loving it separating the art from the artist is something i constantly have to do as a classical musician look at Wagner uh yes but i do believe the sort of separating the art from the artist argument is sort of mistaken in a way because it doesn't i don't think you do anyone any favors by just ignoring the life of an artist when you have knowledge about it but for instance like hb lovecraft is extremely problematic uh as a person he was extremely racist for the 1920s and 1930s which was an extremely racist time he writes up and down so many letters about his racist theories and that is sort of interesting when you start reading his stories because you see that he has a life that is in many ways ruled by a lot of his fears and his repulsion and and he is debilitated by his fear and his fear of success and his fear of people and stuff like that he was a very personable person and he had friends and he traveled and he did a lot of stuff but he still sabotages his life and his writing with his fear and then he writes about he writes things that are often influenced by his nightmares and his dreams and his subconscious and he tries to write art for art's sake and every time he writes about a scary alien race of deep ones or fungi from yoghurt or any of that it turns out first of all it turns out that the narrator is a part of the aliens again and again which probably showed lovecraft's fear of having something uh heritable heritable sickness in his bloodline because his father had died in the senatorium and his mother as well and in the end it always turns out that the aliens are right the aliens know more than us the aliens are superior the deep ones are superior culturally they're superior intellectually they're superior technologically the fungi from yoghurt are superior all of the aliens that he's so afraid of turn out to be superior so by knowing enough about lovecraft's awful racism you actually can gain a deeper appreciation of the problems he's trying to tackle in his art and he's tackling them in a way that isn't fully conscious he's not writing uh dialectics he is not writing uh speeches he is exploring themes that he didn't dare explore in his conscious life so that's interesting but i've talked too much we have done two ink monsters today as an american immigrant of racial and ethnic demographic his gross racism and xenophobia would be uh uh repulsed by i love his work yeah and one of my we talked a little bit about uh black metal music uh and there's a lot of metal bands that are influenced by lovecraft and that take their names from lovecraft and the most fascinating one of my they're not black metal in that sense but one of my favorite rock metal acts that i've just loved all my life since i was a little kid has taken their name from lovecraft and that's living color living color as in cult of personality and all those great songs and that's because vernon reid uh the guitarist and main songwriter of living color is a huge lovecraft fan and he found it as black man he found it very fascinating that a such a huge racist as lovecraft would write a tale such as the color out of space where the the monster the scary thing is just a color a strange color and that's why the hard rock metal band funk metal band living color spells color with an o and a u because hb lovecraft always spelled color with an o and a u he liked british spelling and vernon reid even says that some of his lyrics are inspired by the sense of cosmicness and the sense of being an outsider that he finds in lovecraft's work so that is utterly fascinating and i love it uh i got a final super chat i didn't read that message oh one more thank you for sharing your talent and being in the superation thank you so much rod and then uh uh bo bo bo i just wanted to say thank you for sharing your thoughts thanks for streaming i will be trying to stream most weekdays uh in the morning so i will be doing a lot more of these streams thank you so much for watching and thank you for all the super chats and i will be scanning these and putting them up for free use all my art is available for free use so you can support me by using my art if you download and print my art or use it as your phone background or or or give it to your grandmother that is supporting me even if you don't pay me a dime but if you want to pay me a dime you can pay me through the super chats and you can pay me through the patreon patreon.com slash kim holm uh and thank you so much it's been very fun today bye bye