 today. We are so grateful today. We have Amanda and Micah coming to you from Mary Magdala's cave which is in the background from where they are. So it's so great to have you here on our live show and you're on a little bit of a pilgrimage with a group of friends today to the cave and and just living a life of devotion to Jesus and Mary Magdala and the deep teachings of the Course in Miracles. So tell us a little bit about your pilgrimage today. How did you get the friends? It's very beautiful baby because for me this place is very beautiful symbol for live in in in the devotional life and for me Mary Magdala is very important because I always connecting so much with her and I don't know it's beautiful because in reality not prepared this travel only Miguel and Astrid say okay maybe together go visit Mary Magdala okay I go I go yes yes I want I want and I don't know Micah and I walk for the mountain for meditation and it's very beautiful how the peace I don't know it's like connecting with this deep profound emotional and jealousy and it's very important for us this place because now it's my life yeah yeah this is the second time we came we came earlier this year just Amanda and I and this this this trip came about again because you know join with other companions and friends who also feel connected to the teachings from the Course and Jesus and and Mary Magdala of course as well they just felt the inspiration to go and invited us along and so we came back because it is such a strong symbol for both of us you know that symbol of devotion is really what it is and I know I remember once you said I think the the proper use of symbols is to increase faith and I just love that I don't take a lot of notes in life but once in a while I do write something down that's one of those things I wrote down and it just has really helped me to you know to find the purpose and the meaning in the symbol is just to increase the faith and I think for both of us you can feel that a lot yeah it's so wonderful that you basically have given your life over to just listen and follow the inner guidance and work with the Course and the Jesus brought you together and now when you first went to Mary Magdala's cave it was such a deep profound experience that it seems to have kicked off a deeper devotion now than ever and I know you said that when when Astrid and Miguel came to visit you at the at your house on the on the mountain that they they sank into such a deep meditation and could feel the depth so I feel like all of you going there now is just like following the depth you know you just are trusting and following the depth because actually this journey it goes so far beyond the word you get to a point where the only use of words is just inspiration and blessing and and to show that there's nothing to be afraid of in in going this deep that you're not really leaving anything real behind you're just coming more into the fullness of Jesus's love and God's love and the full experience of that has no sacrifice involved at all you are just enraptured in it and you just bask in it and live in it every day and and there aren't any kind of real problems that can get in your way or obstacles because you just carried like a twig in the river so it's beautiful and maybe you could just share about the house that came in and it's a little bit north maybe isn't it maybe like north and maybe a little northwest of Barcelona and it's just dropped into your lap it's like a rental a five-year lease and it just dropped in and now the people are showing up people are showing up that are very devoted to this awakening path and and it's all just happening like you're just it's beautiful because when Mike and I work for the mountains I say how this house it's very important for us because it's for leap very deep and devotion with God I mean I don't know yeah yeah it's very deep because this house moves not to my house so the house Amanda is it's it's the house of God and it's very it's very deep because it's my commitment with Jesus on the Holy Spirit and it's like only for relief this experience devotional for unit with God but believe this experience for praying for joining together but in reality it's it's for myself it's like it's open for other people yes but I don't know it's very difficult good words in reality because for me many healing in three months in this house and have now for me very different vision for many things including with Jesus including with Jesus is the same when the other day I thought with you how I don't know when I surrender how now it's more gentle in reality yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's um we both came back from Mexico a year I don't know about a year ago anyway and yeah there was that feeling of like inspiration and feeling of wanting to continue on sharing the experience that we've had with practicing the course the teachings it just felt like it that's where everything opened up for me especially you know for me for myself and and so there was that feeling there about sharing that experience and somehow um you know seeing how what that would look like and we didn't really know all along it was just sort of the thought was there and the desire and feeling and inspiration and then you know it just like these things do it just took whatever time it took we just I mean in some ways it started already as far as that joining with other people with this apartment we were in for many months as you know so people came and stayed with us Ken and Anna for a month Anna Cecilia for a month or more as well as other friends for shorter periods of time and my daughter for a while as well and so it was already sort of like the the community was already happening you know it's already and then it seemed I don't even remember how you know it was like somehow we we started looking for a house to expand on this and to have the space for other people to come and you know we were sharing that shared building with the apartment we were in and so you know we didn't you know and it's just like every step we just waited and just waited to be shown you know and just and what you know we might have had thoughts or preferences about one way or the other and but it's only like just to surrender those and see what happened and then it was very clear that this house showed up there was a lot of beautiful signs and you know it was it was very much guided where just step by step like Amanda stumbled on it on this website and it's the kind of house that's not very useful to find to rent to pick all the messiah you know here in in Catalonia well not here but where we live in Catalonia in northern Spain traditional like country house and then you know going through the process of contacting the real estate person that was dealing with it and then coming to visit and meeting the owner just a beautiful connection and and all these these these steps and every time there was like you know accommodations were made for us you know with reducing the price even in the rent and you know out of all these people that were interested the owner really felt connected with us we had just a beautiful connection and yeah and so this house it just all finally happened and you know seemingly without us doing anything just kind of following listening and following praying and listening and following yeah that's amazing so it's it's like a six bedroom house and unlike other place that you looked which was needing so much construction and restoration and repair this house is just beautiful and it's almost like when we have a drink where we just water and stir you just showed up a six bedroom house and turns into a mystical community on a mountain on a hillside north of Barcelona and maybe you can share with everybody just the name of it because if i'm sure people are watching around the world and just saying wow that is an amazing story name or have you put to the house yeah it's faro de luce in in spanish or loose to our latin american spanish friends different pronunciation pronunciation a little bit um faro de luce and that's beacon of light in english so everything yeah like it's on facebook you know where we have a page it's faro de luce community yeah yeah it's so beautiful too because a lot of people are are watching and they're saying i feel kind of stuck in my life and i i'm just open to go much deeper i really want to be in connection with jesus and and the holy spirit and mary magdalot and a deep way and and you both met lacasa delagros down in chipala mexico and and mike came from minnesota and and then amanda came all the way over from spain uh and landed and amanda mostly spoke spanish just a little english a little little and and mike up mostly both english and here you are now where uh we were saying the other day amanda is now bilingual turned her into bilingual she's doing very very well and you both have been able to communicate i think more uh more telepathically probably through your relationship uh and then the words kind of came in afterwards but through prayer and devotion and so both of you it's been an unwinding from the path a lot of deep unwinding and i don't think people realize how much we have to let go of all of the past thoughts to make way for the voice of jesus to come through us because uh the prayer and the guidance it's always there uh jesus is always there with us and i remember amanda you were at lacasa delagros and you were watching a movie this time of the young messiah when jesus was young very powerful movie and then after that movie then you just heard jesus speaking to you just constantly you couldn't sleep and then it was beautiful that mike up was was actually there he was just down searching going deeper himself and he was able to join with you with you comfort you uh when it was a very uh very different experience of having jesus your heart bursting open and jesus speaking to you it all through the night uh it's very different i think anybody watching would know how how difficult that would be if you had that experience because it's so out of pattern so maybe uh you could just hear a little bit about like some of the big kind of mystical experiences that have held you to just really let go of the past and and be so present with the holy spirit for the guidance like right in the here and now you're just so in the here and now well yeah in in lacasa delagros in mexico it's it's very beautiful because i feel very strong experience and i i feel how connecting with jesus in many moments because i think maybe i need these steps because for me after many things we can go and it's like wow thank you jesus for letting me this thing and and i don't know sometimes i listen how jesus i don't know how express these these things i feel very love very very love including when i go to sleep how in my dreams you remember baby yeah yeah only jesus told me okay you know with me to see this dream and i don't know it's crazy because because everything for me is for trust all the time with this experience only for trust only for see my thoughts because sometimes it's very strong how the ego want control everything including sometimes for okay maybe surrender and no more with cool the miracles because sometimes it's very strong for me because the people angry with me projecting in me because i'm under the character is very strong blah blah blah you know but i don't know this month for me beautiful miracle david because jesus all the time with me when i i feel very bad with everything in this world but this month i now it's very different everything for me because i don't need make anything in reality i only need see these thoughts these things i need to render because in reality is how okay amandra you know only need see these things but you don't need make nothing only see nothing more and i live this experience with my daughter or maybe with my car or with other person in the house i don't know it's like okay i don't need make anything in reality see everything is resolved it's a miracle because it's like oh my god in this situation in my past i won't resolve i won't control everything for peace but no it's true this is the ego for i no trust in holy spirit and jesus with me and now it's like oh wow i feel more peace in me it's like it's how i understand why i need very strong commitment with me all the time yeah or not transition how do you say in patrick you to go um complicit yeah complicit yes other person for i don't know it's like i understand why i need my commitment very strong with me because they was very subtle it's very strong david and and i prayed for one week very strong like this jesus i need more gentle now yeah i trust more now and everything because i don't need make anything in this world no need to uh resolve these things with these people or with my family or with my daughter no i only need to see my thoughts for surrender for forgiveness yeah and now i need more more experience with jesus including for tonight in my dream it's crazy because it's like what is this oh my god including when i live this experience because i every morning you're up seven yeah i go for one place for meditation for two hours for pray with jesus i feel very strong and i think it's love and it's like okay i don't want nothing more in this world please jesus i want i want only this moment every day in my life because i understand because in this place i understand who is live life in devotion reality yeah it's very big it's very beautiful when when i surrender when i don't want nothing more in this world it's like i don't know david it's very beautiful because i feel now how jesus say okay amanda you know you are love from reality you only know you see you are love amanda and it's very beautiful very grateful for my coming evening all the time from time very strong i know but it's like okay i trust i trust yeah because it's the same the movie the other day when i told you like i don't want my contract with you i my contract is with god yeah other more baby i very grateful including with this person when sometimes rejecting in me or or only is for remember my coming you know i really great with this person because it's for it's for then i now here in this place with mary magdalene with this house part of the loop for lead my life in devotion because i only want this maybe i only want connecting with that all the time i don't need nothing more yeah i know i have four riding sons very beautiful kids i know about it's like including my daughters or my mother or my sisters because now i feel very loved with then because now i surrender including many miracles with my family because now it's very different everything with them yeah because you need results nothing yeah i know my life now it's a miracle it's a miracle for me because i don't know i only trust all the time and everything yeah i feel more connected with jesus all the time yeah it's beautiful how it's it's all symbolic like you have a the grandson named jesus that's beautiful now when you mostly live on a mountain but when you did go to barcelona you see the signs and symbols of the spirit in every direction you look and i think for many people they think wow this this sounds so mystical to live such a devoted life and i think it does get simpler and much more gentle when we realize that as jesus does in the court i can be hurt by nothing but my thoughts it's not that we have to figure out a way for people to get along because the ego made the whole world as a distractive device and when you try to reconcile between the people which is why people struggle with forgiveness they don't really see that it's just thoughts the people are just thoughts and if you have an issue with somebody you're holding on to an ego thought it's not it's not the people the thoughts in the mind so i think it does get easier when you start to say oh that's simple i can live my happy devotional life just in prayer and of course mary magnum is one of the best examples in history where she was with jesus and then it got to be quite dramatic at the end when jesus was crucified and then he was resurrected and she got to see him again and then he was gone again and then she sailed across the Mediterranean and she she taught openly in a greek temple for a few decades so she taught used the words and then she went to this cave which is behind you it's you have to go very high up the mountain to to even get to the cave and she just lived the last third of her life in communion with jesus not many words just a little fryer bringing some food some water occasionally to her and putting no care and attention to the body or the world and isn't it beautiful that here we are using a broadcast social media to share the most mystical teachings and experiences in all of history and we're doing a live broadcast to talk about something that's really so inward that you know it doesn't really relate to the world of images very well but i just want to encourage everyone who's watching to see that here's an example mika and amanda just met each other both were open searching amanda had been through a near death experience and really wondered why she was still here and she started talking to me and he goes oh now i see why i'm here i'm i'm here for jesus uh to merge with jesus that's oh that's why i'm here and and that makes it like you can go on in devotion when you realize that that's the perfect approach or the highest calling union with god and peace of mind so here we are you know this this is a like another mystical broadcast because because uh many people it may raise more questions for people when they watch because it's it's not a worldly broadcast we're not here we're not advocating ambitions of the future we're not advocating trying to achieve something in the world we're just saying sink deep in your heart and deepen your mind into prayer and realize that that prayer is is wonderful prayer is how we reach god and living a devotional life of prayer some people may think that sounds boring but it's actually the farthest thing from boring it's the greatest adventure i think you could ever experience rather than skiing or rock climbing or or sports or all the things in fact i think if people met you they would say wow you you're so calm and devoted and you're so connected but you you're not not quite like a romantic couple you're more you're like a mystic a mystic union you are then more than a romantic couple even with that you know it's beyond the appearances it's it's it's a love of everyone everyone and everything and it's almost unspeakable to to try to uh to even describe it yeah yeah yeah the word it's funny we're talking about this that's lately that's been the experience for for both of us really just feeling more and more in a moment of the words aren't just falling away and just going really deep you know into this and there really are no words but we can use them and we do use them and you use them very well to spread the blessings and love and just extend and i mean that's a beautiful purpose yeah yeah silence is very important for us yeah it's very important silence no including the word not necessary and might and need yeah in reality no man is big you know yeah it's like i don't need words for communication with my only my present and his present it's it's perfect let me nothing more including when sometimes listen many voices it's like oh oh oh okay perfect maybe it's good for seeing my thoughts it's okay because everything now it's very clear for seeing my thoughts nothing more including when i feel very strong emotion okay now it's my moment for pray you need with jesus for forgiveness it's perfect because now it's like i i can connect you more with jesus when i need forgiveness but in reality i don't know this house in barcelona for us is very beautiful symbol for silence yeah silence you don't need war you don't need nothing only you need silence for you see your thoughts in your mind and it's it's very beautiful because connecting with with many peace you know david is like connecting with i don't know it's the same here it's the same experience sometimes in this place with mary margalen and this mountain with these trees and these rocks it's like it's the same in the house like oh wow look at in this silent i can't connect with jesus with peace with love all the time yeah i'm very grateful for this silence in reality including the same language now i speak more i don't know understand me but it's like in reality no need to speak no including i don't want to speak yeah baby yeah i don't know including this day can this is my life yeah i understand many things with can yeah we are very love with can because i don't know what's happened in some time it's the same with trance i don't know what's happening it's like in this silence and this silence i can't feel very strong love with all people yeah i connected with this love you know baby yeah yeah it's like even more more you know it's very beautiful but i mean silence in reality yeah yeah beautiful it's they're all symbols the i know the pierony mountains have been very powerful symbols for you where you feel the deep connection with the caves and the tunnels and i think this goes back to yeah to many centuries before you know that there have been those that have walked these same grounds that have been so devoted to the presence of christ and and i've enjoyed my trips to fame and meyorka because of all the saints visiting the the church where saint john the cross was and saint harissa visiting monasteries visiting convents so i think it's quite appropriate it's a very good symbol that you're there in this seemingly modern world with all kinds of clashes and countries and war going on you're just reminding the world that you can go to god and there's nothing that can stop you from going to god there's nothing that can block that beautiful silent connection and uh i just feel like we're all walking hand in hand now and the more we go into the silence we feel we feel each other so deeply that sometimes we reach out and call but we're what is mainly in prayer the deepest connection is is actually in prayer so there's just uh so much gratitude for this whole journey and so i hope everyone watching that they enjoyed this little dip and who we're just dipping into mysticism now this is this is beyond thank you so much i just want you to enjoy your your experience there and give a big hug to to astrid migal and everyone that you encounter just give the blessing of christ as i know you are with everyone and and thank you so much for coming on because these are kind of rare moments when people can get in touch with such a deep devotion and and and just have the witness like wow this is possible i think with mary magnolia you know she was just she would just had a family and she was living in a little town called magala and then jesus happened to go by with his apostles and they said there's some kind of creature or a mystic man out there and she started she first started listening and she was so touched that she left her her family behind she left her city behind and then eventually she left the day behind she hopped in a boat that i think uh kind of got washed ashore the angels kind of washed her to shore and she did some teaching and then she went and lived in a cave for 25 30 years so if she can do that and that's that's a good example for all of us who just live a simple devotional life and and let go of the complexity of of the past and the future we don't really need the past and the future anymore they don't really serve us so thank you thank you for joining me on this and god bless you and i hope to talk to you again soon it's always lovely to stay in contact thank you baby you know part of the little is your house too and you want to come with us thank you thank you for this warm loving welcome i love you love you love you hey i'm a mucho bye for now hi everyone thank you