 Okay, let's pray. Father, we thank you for this day, Lord. We thank you for this new season, Lord. We thank you for this new semester, God, for all these courses, Lord. I pray that it will be a great, exciting, adventurous time of equipping, Lord. I pray, Lord, for each one of us here, Lord, even as we navigate this Lord's semester, I pray, Father God, that you will lead. I pray, Father God, that it will be a time of drawing near to your heart, Lord, over and above everything, Lord, that every course, every new thing, every revelation, Lord, everything, every new information, Lord, I pray that you will enable us by your Spirit to draw us close to you, Father God. Lord, may our equipping never be an isolation, God, but let it be always be a walk with you. Let it be an opportunity to just fellowship with your Spirit. Let it be a time to just open our hearts and welcome you in. Yes, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Thank you that you care so deeply about us. Thank you that you are mindful of us. Thank you that you rejoice over us. You sing over us. Thank you, Lord. Thank you for all these, all these significant, but yet sometimes we just miss it, Lord. I pray that you're doing that even right now, that you're rejoicing over us, that we are called by your name, the fact that you're washed by our blood. Lord, the fact that we have received justification, we stand, Lord, covered in your righteousness. We thank you that you're just singing over us songs of victory, God, songs of redemption, songs of possibilities, hallelujah, the blessing name, songs of possibilities, God, you're just declaring over us, Lord, songs of victory, you're declaring over us, songs of, Lord, consecration, Lord, you're just speaking, songs of invitation, God, to your very heart, Lord, you're singing that over us, God. We thank you, Lord, and may our hearts, Lord, may our spirit be sharpened to hear that even today, God. Thank you, we thank you. We thank you for your plan, we thank you for your purpose. I just pray that every day would be a new revelation of that, God, to our spirit. We thank you, we give you all the praise, God, and I just commit each and every person in this class, into your mighty hands. I pray that, Lord, it will be a great season, God, we just declare that your kingdom, Lord, over each and every person, over each and every home, over each and every family that they represent, Lord, your kingdom, righteousness, peace, joy, your rule and reign in their hearts and minds, God. Yes, Father, thank you, Lord, fill us with your spirit, even now, anoint us afresh. We thank you. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Hey, awesome. Praise, God, I'm so happy for you guys, very, very excited for all of us, you know, especially the things that we're going to be learning and the things that you're going to be, you know, as we learn the things that are going to be opening up in the spirit map, God is going to expand our spirit to receive. It's not just going to be a time of learning, but it's going to be a time of empowering, I'm sure, and preparation to walk in the good works that He's already prepared for us. So yeah, all excited. Okay, so we're going to be looking at Christian leadership this semester, and I'm going to be teaching that. And we know that leadership is a vast, you know, vast, it has a vast scope, is a great subject, but it's also very, you know, the scope is very broad. So we're going to be kind of narrowing down to look at a few things. So it's not going to be a very exhaustive thing. We're going to be looking at a few things. So basically, we have divided this course into three sections. The first section is leading through time. So we're going to be looking at some basic concepts of leadership. Well, by the way, the notes are uploaded in the Classwork section. So you could follow, you could, you know, go through that, download that. So the first section would be leading through time. We're going to be looking at some basic leadership concepts. And then secondly, we're going to talk about winning with people, because we know that ministry leadership involves people. And we're going to be working with people. We're not going to be working, you know, as islands, so we're going to be working with people. So we're going to be looking at that. And, and the third one is about with teams. So it's kind of an extension overflow of that second section. So working with teams. What are the dynamics which come into play when we, when we, you know, we are part of teams, when we are leading teams, and so on. So we're going to be looking at some practical things. Of course, there will be some theoretical concepts as well. But we'll try and link it to, you know, some practical scenarios, maybe even look at some case studies, we'll see, right, as we go. Now, when assessments, we will have two quizzes, one at maybe after a month, maybe by the end of February or so. And then we'll have one quiz by third week of April. So just in a follow through track, so that you don't miss any of these quizzes. Of course, there will be adequate notice, and it'll be posted on the stream and so on. So they will be very hard not to, you know, see that, but just make a note of it. Okay, so that'll be for the assessment. Yeah, so when we are, you know, considering this subject, so like I said, you know, we're going to be looking at, we're going to narrow down to these three things. So it's not going to be, you know, everything about leadership. And, and it's titled Christian Leadership, because definitely the Lord, Lord Jesus, and what we see in the scriptures, has a lot to bear or bring to lean on when it comes to leadership, because like any other subject, the world has a way of defining it. Society has a way of defining that particular idea or concept. Popular culture has a way of defining it. I remember working for, you know, in sales and I was actually very shocked by the terms that the sales manager, my manager to whom I was reporting to, the kind of terms that he used to describe the, you know, how I should view the market and how I should view competition. Maybe I shared it a bit earlier. He said, you know, you need to kill competition. You know, it just kind of hit me. I was kind of shocked, shaken. You need to kill the competition. Right. So you know that, you know, the marketplace has a way of defining, you know, all concepts, defining principles, and it has its own principles, but we look at it through the lens of scripture. And, and, and by the way, you know, I, I sincerely believe that what we see in scripture, it's not just for church, it's not just for ministry, but it's, it's for life. Right. It's for the work, workplace. And I think some of you can testify to that. Those of you who are, you know, who are in that environment and, and putting to practice biblical principles, you can testify to that. Is it easy? No. But is it possible? Yes. Because of the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. Right. So, so we have many such examples out there, people, testimonies who are there in the courts of Nebuchadnezzar, so to speak, you know, just like Daniel's in the courts of Nebuchadnezzar or like Joseph's in the courts of Pharaoh, but standing strong, facing the battles and holding on to biblical principles and also living them out each and every day and praise God. Right. So, they are by their life and work. You see that they testify every day that it is possible to live out a life and thrive in the workplace, in the marketplace. Right. So, so whatever we're learning as, you know, leadership concepts, it's not just for, though we call it Christian leadership, because that's the reference point. It is for the workplace. Is it for the, it is for the marketplace. So, in our class, you know, we might have people who are probably, you know, some of you are into business. Maybe a lot of you are maybe into ministry. Some of you are maybe students. Some of you could be homemakers. And the way you approach this particular subject and what you take away, like some of you might say, okay, this is not for me. Okay. It's something, it's mandatory for me to finish the course, but maybe it has a very minimal application for my life. Maybe you might say, okay, I'm a student right now in this season of life. You know, I don't think it kind of makes sense. Or you might say, I'm a homemaker. In what way does it, I'm never going to be, you know, leading a team. I'm never going to be, you know, have a formal title as a leader, you know, as a pastor. That's not my calling. So how relevant is it to me? Right. So you might have, you might have that kind of a question going on in your mind. Or, and others, of course, you know, if you're already formally functioning as a leader, you know, with a title and, you know, as a manager or some, you know, someone in an organization, and you might say, okay, this is relevant. But I just want to say that this whole thing of leadership, you know, just like how we looked at biblical preaching in the last semester, you know, we saw that all of us are called to be representatives and spokespersons for the Lord. And that great commission is for all. Similarly, if you take that, you see that leadership, you know, when we go into it a little bit and see the definition of it, and see the, you know, outworking of it, we see that all of us are, have some role to play in being leaders. Now the scope of leadership might change, might be different. The realm of leadership could be changed, could be different. Could be different. And the way we actually, you know, function as leaders could be very different, right? For a homemaker, the way he or she, you know, needs to be a leader could be different from the one who's carrying a formal title in an organization and being a leader, right? So it could be, it could be different. But the fact is that leadership is for everyone. Leadership is for everyone. So we might have different ideas about leadership and different, you know, different image of who a leader is or what a leader should be. So let's look at, you know, scripture, even as we go through this course, some of these practical principles, we will realize that for life, you know, this, this can be a very enriching thing, the concepts that we learn about leadership, it can really help us, right? So, yeah, so let's just dive right in. Let me just share the screen and go through. Okay. Here we go. Okay. Yeah. So I think that's what we looked at now. So what is, what is leadership really? When we say someone is a leader, of course, the common thing is a leader is one who has followers. The leader is one who's leading people as the name suggests leading people to a particular destination, leading people to a particular goal, all that is fine. But when we look at, you know, I just like this definition of John C. Maxwell, who's written a lot of books on leadership. A Christian, a Christian leader by himself, he's authored many books. He, I think he's a, he was pastoring a church at one point also. So he says leadership is influence. It's an influence, which means that you're able to influence someone to maybe look up and you're able to, but because of that influence, you're able to point that person, a point that group or lead that group by precept and example for a collective good to a collective goal. And so if you look at, if you look at it from that angle or perspective, you see that leadership is for you. Leadership is for you. You are a leader. You are an influencer. If you look at your life, there are a lot of people who are connected to you. First of all, of course, your immediate realm of family, friends, there could be acquaintances. There could be people whom you relate to at a professional level or at a, you know, at a ministry level. There could be others, you know, who are connected, maybe, you know, practical day-to-day life. There could be the milkman, the newspaper, delivery person, the grocery delivery person, the person whom you meet in the market when you go buy your fish or chicken or vegetables. A lot of people who are, you know, connected to your life, we may not realize it. We may have realized it. The fact is that you can be an influence. We can be an influence for good in that person's life. It can be a lifelong thing. It can be for a period of time. It can be, it can be just a one-time thing where sometimes we meet that person and that's that opportunity window of opportunity and we can be an influence for good in that person's life. Right? So when we look at leadership from that angle, you know, from that perspective, you know, we can define leadership this way. We can say that leadership is being an influence for good in people's lives. Okay? To being an influence for good in people's life. To bring about change in that person, in one's thinking, in one's behavior in order to help accomplish or reach their, maybe their individual goal or a collective goal. Okay? So it's about being an influence for good, which is amazing that we have an opportunity to be an influence for the betterment of somebody's life, for the betterment of a group to reach a collective goal together. Now, we're not getting into, you know, a formal title, a formal role, not yet, but even overall, if you see, you know, leadership is this. If you look at it, leadership is this. So I just want to propose to us and to declare over us that each of us, each of you is a leader in the realm that you are, right? In the environment that you are. And maybe the role could be different, maybe the responsibilities are different, but you are a leader. You are an influencer, right? And you might, some of you might have formal titles to empower you to do that, you know, in a formal manner. Maybe it's a ministry church. Maybe it's a, you know, a fellowship or an organization, a company that you're working for. But even otherwise, you know, you have an opportunity, we have an opportunity to influence people for good. So in that sense, leadership is for all. Right? In that sense, leadership is for all. If you look at our individual call, right, maybe some of us are saying, I'm still trying to figure out what that call is. I'm still trying to discover what that call is. Absolutely okay. Right? But Stipster talks about how he has, the Lord has prepared good works for us that we should walk in it, right? That we should live it out. And I think this is an efficiency. Let's look at that verse, Ephesians chapter two and verse 10, for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus. So which means that we are his workmanship. We are created in Christ Jesus, that we are new creations. We are in Christ for good works. Okay. Which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. So each of us have a unique call. If for each of us, God has prepared good works that we should walk in them. And each of us, excuse me, are his workmanship. Right? And I'm sure you've looked at it before, but that word there means poem, a work of art, unique, a work of art. So the movie begin to align our thinking. The movie begin to look at ourselves that way. You know, our journey becomes even more joyful. Our journey becomes, you know, no matter what the difficulty, no matter what, you know, the kind of testing times that we might see season that we might go through. We realize that, hey, I'm a work of God. And as a work of God, my God has prepared some good works, some really good works. And when we know that God has prepared these, we know that, you know, he has uniquely shaped us for these good works. And he has actually prepared these beforehand that we should walk in them. So the responsibility, the onus is on us to seek him, to discover these good works, and start being faithful in the things that you know. Okay, here it is. Here's this need. Here is this good work. Let me start doing it. Let me use my ability skills, gifts that I'm discovering, and start to walk in it, right? So, and even as we begin to walk in it, you know, as we fulfill that call, we begin to realize that we are, that we God has raised us up to be that influence in that, in that, in that place, to that group of people, to that individual, right? And let's not rule out, you know, children. Maybe you're an influencer for children, maybe you're an influencer for teenagers, maybe you're an influencer for peers, maybe you're an influencer for even elderly people, right? You could be a young person, but you are, God calls you uniquely and that's a good work that is prepared for you to be an influencer for that age group. And you know, hey, I'm a young person, you know, how, but you are, you can relate to maybe the struggles, maybe the challenges of elderly folk and maybe it's called you to be an influencer, you know, and maybe you understand, you empathize, he's called you to be an influencer for that particular age group. So it could be a group of, you know, maybe demographically, you know, it could be a geographical location, it could be, you know, it could be people group with certain, certain special, maybe challenges, maybe, you know, certain age groups, whatever it is, right? So you just go before God and say, Lord, you know, this is what I'm called drawn to, you know, every time I see this, I'm drawn with compassion. Every time I see this, it frustrates me, I want to be make a change. And yeah, let's not rule out things that frustrate, things that challenge, you know, things that intimidate, you know, even those where you can bring a solution, have a God can bring a solution through you, right? So all these things, you know, which make up the call of God for you personally, you are called to be an influencer, you are called to be an influencer. So like we might be called like Moses to specific, you know, with a big task, with a very large task of, you know, leading people, leading churches, well, let's not rule that out also, you know, let's not say, okay, I in my corner, you in mind, but your corner could be a very big corner, you might be called to affect nations. And that's the, you know, that's the call. So, so it could be a, you know, a call like that, where your God says, okay, I'm raising you up to be a leader. I want you to lead these people. So like that, or it could be in the body of Christ, you know, very, very interesting. When we look at Romans chapter 12, versus five and eight, we saw this when we were, we were studying the Holy Spirit, the gifts of the spirit. So we see that Romans 12 and verse five, let me just read that out. So we being many are one body in Christ, and individually, members of one another, having them gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them. Okay, if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith, or ministry, let us use it in our ministry. He who teaches in teaching, he who exalts in exhortation, he who gives with liberality, he who leads with diligence, and he who shows mercy with cheerfulness. So we see that as, as members of the body of Christ, there is this leadership gift, which the Lord pours out with the Holy Spirit, pours out to the members in the body of Christ as well. So, you know, as we have given different functions, and as we serve the body of Christ in different capacities, well, if this is also another gift that is given, and that's the thing the Lord might use us in the body of Christ as a member to lead in whatever way, right, in whatever function. Okay, so when we go back to the Great Commission, okay, we go back to the Great Commission, Matthew 28, 18 to 20. Jesus came, spoke to them saying, all authority has been given to me in heaven, and on earth, go therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you, and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age amen. And so we've, we've read this many times, and we've studied this many times. So the Lord says, all authority has been given, and therefore, you go and make disciples of all the nations. Now, when we, when we look at the whole thing of making disciples, like it involves being a spokesperson, it involves living that message, and it involves journeying with people, like the whole aspect of discipleship is journeying with people, and teaching them to observe, right, that's the thing, teaching them to observe, it's, it's, it's a journey. Observe all things that I've commanded you. So in the process of making disciples as disciples, we have that responsibility, right, and it is applicable, it's a blanket statement for all of us. So a command for all of us from the Lord. So when we do that, we see that leadership is just inbuilt in that, right, to be a spokesperson, to teach, to baptize, right, you see that leadership is, is inbuilt in that, that all of us, you know, are leaders in, in different realms. So I'm just repeating that over and over again, that as followers of the Lord, we see that, you know, we, each one of us are leaders in, in different aspects, okay. So that's something that just wanted to reiterate, okay. So because sometimes when we look at that whole, you know, topic of leaders, just like how we looked at, you know, biblical preaching, we might, we might, I'm just saying that we could tend to cancel ourselves out and say, I'm not a leader because we have a specific image of a leader, a specific personality trait even, right. Sometimes we might say, okay, leaders need to be, you know, I was recently looking at, as a meme came as a forward for, you know, introverts and extroverts and, and the meme said, you know, I think we should have some forwards for people who are extroverts saying, you know, how to be quiet and sit down and, and not make conversation and how to be reflective and so on, you know, meme for extroverts. Normally we see a for introverts, right, or self-help books for introverts and so on. So, so the thing is, like, we might, you know, based on our personality type, you know, I'd say, you know, I'm a, I'm a quiet person or I'm, I do not interact with people, you know, I, I hardly speak maybe 10 words during the day or, you know, 24 words during the, you know, the 24 hours that I, so, you know, we, whatever things that we might say, it is, this is not my personality type. I'm not, you know, this personality type because we might have a image of a leader being, being very articulate or being, being pushy and being, you know, being strong and so on. Well, we, we see none of that, right. We look at the disciples, you know, people from, well, different walks of life, different limitations and different personality types, right. We see Peter being very, very impulsive, right. Jumping into water, walking on water, you know, he sees, hears those comments, he's filled with a spirit, he stands up and gives a sermon, gives the altar call, you know, we see him as very, you know, strong, impulsive and so on. We see, read about Paul, Paul being, you know, oh, some of those things, you know, he's not mincing words, oh, you foolish Galatians, you know, with standing up to Peter, with standing Peter and saying, Peter, you are wrong, right. A very fearless man. So, we might have some stereotypes of leadership and say, okay, that's not me, but let's not forget Barnabas, right. Barnabas who saw, saw and brought in with him and, you know, introduced him to the apostles, connected him with people, right. Let's not forget that. Let's not forget Andrew who said, hey, we have this small lad, we have this lad who's here, this boy who's here, he's got his lunch and that's all we have. He brought that lunch to the Lord Jesus. Now, we don't read about Andrew, you know, talking about things, you know, concepts and, you know, describing things, but we see that he, this is what he did and we know what happened after that. The Lord took it, prayed, multiplied, it's recorded for us in scripture, right. So, don't cancel yourself out based on your, you know, use what you see as a personality trait, right. God can use you in, in whatever realm as a leader. The other thing is don't cancel yourself out on, because of where you are in life right now, like the season of life that you are in or, you know, based on what you see yourself as today. Don't forget that the Lord is working in your life. The Lord is working in my life and we are journey on. You know, this is not the final destination. The Lord is shaping us, the Lord is transforming us and Second Corinthians talks about how we are being changed, right. As we take a glimpse of His glory, we are being changed and we are being transformed into that same image just Christ Himself. We are being changed, we are being transformed, we are being built up. So, don't forget that, that you are, you and I are works in progress. So, the Lord is working in our lives. The Lord is changing us. The Lord is equipping us for the call that He has for us or for the call that we are already, you know, pursuing in our lives, right. Maybe as pastors, maybe as, you know, business leaders, maybe as working professionals, maybe as mothers, maybe as grandmothers, whatever, whatever we are doing, the Lord is changing us, strengthening us. And, you know, even as you look at in a wholeness, the Lord, you know, the whole topic of in a wholeness, you'll see that the Lord is well able to heal, to liberate us, to release us now into the freedom that He has for us. So, we are works in progress. So, don't come to those conclusions based on where you are right now, where you are today, this morning, right. There's a lot of distance to go and the Lord is not giving up and the Lord wants to, you know, do wonderful things, wonderful, great things in shaping you, in transforming you into the influencer, into the leader that He wants you to be, right. So, that's something that we need to understand. Okay, so now I want to ask you that, Kristin, no. So, how many of you think that you are leaders? Can I see your hands? Okay, I think I should take a screenshot. Okay, yeah, that's it. Remember, maybe some of you are traveling and your screen is far away from you. Maybe you're walking around somewhere. Okay, right. Praise God, right. So, this is the thing that, you know, it's a journey of discovery and you realize that, hey, you are an influencer, that we are called to influence people for good, for their betterment and primarily, thank you, and primarily to, of course, share the gospel, bring the gospel, bring the good news and watch them, you know, blossom and thrive. Okay, let's just, we have about 10 more minutes till the break. Let's just go back to our notes and... Pastor, could I ask a question? Yeah, sure, go ahead. I'm still not completely convinced, Pastor, if I'm a leader, and the reason being is, I think, so I get the influencer part, but the part that I'm unable to still process completely is around responsibility. So, what I understand, at least from my definition of who a leader is, is yes, an influencer, but I want to say that a leader has responsibility. Like, for example, even now, definition we were saying, like, one of the responsibilities could be to help a collective group of people or even an individual to meet their goal. Yeah. So, that seems like an apt definition for either. So, the responsibility is, you know, this person takes on the responsibility of helping, supporting someone to meet their goal. So, if I'm an influencer, let's say, you know, as a friend, probably even as a father, you know, I may be an influencer and, you know, I have certain influence on people, but, you know, like, but I don't want to take the responsibility of helping this person meet their goal. I want to be a supporter and I want to, you know, provide advice whenever advice is solicited. But really, I mean, I'm more focused on, because this is what I keep saying in the organization, they keep trying to put me for a leadership position and I say, like, I'm more of an individual contributor. I can really set high standards for myself and I can meet those standards, exceed expectations. But when you put someone under me to be responsible for that person's performance, you know, to help that person meet his or her goal, is something that I've seen some people are naturally gifted with. For me, it's more of a stressful environment when I'm made responsible for someone else's performance. So in the context of response, in the context of helping other people meet their goals, if that is who a leader is, I'm still not sure if I can see myself. I can see myself as a positive influence, as a supporter, as someone who's always there to, you know, lend a shoulder, lend a helping hand, whatever is required, lend everything. But to tell people, like, no, you need to, you know, do this, you need to do that. So just drive people to be a driver. And I've tried playing around with it. Maybe I'm a non-leader, maybe I'm a driver, but that still hasn't worked so much. So just your thoughts around the leadership leader and around the responsibility, you know, if you could just talk a little bit about that. Yeah, yeah. So definitely, you know, it comes with the responsibility. And sometimes it's a formal role. And therefore, it's well defined. You know, these are your responsibilities, one, two, three, four, five. And these are the goals. And it, you know, it's a vision of the organization. So yeah, we'll get into the vision a bit later. So, you know, it's all well defined. It's clear. And it cannot be devoid of responsibilities. And sometimes, you know, these informal roles of leadership, where that also, you know, it comes with the responsibility. Now, you said, you know, responsibility is both ways. I just wanted to say that, you know, we have a responsibility to maybe guide set standards, set goals, you know, in the organization, maybe it's a formal thing. And, you know, we are ultimately, you know, we are accountable. So, you know, we are also responsible to maybe skill that person and see where the needs are, maybe in terms of bring alignment in terms of attitude. And it's a process, right? And it also goes back to recruitment and everything, right, whether the person is suited, attitude-wise, temperament-wise, skill-wise, et cetera. And then, you know, we have the responsibility of leading that person. So, that is, you know, one way, one side, the other responsibility is from the team also. Now, in a formal thing, it is, of course, you know, it is expected why that person is there, you know, why that person receives a paycheck at the end of the, end of the day, end of the month. So, that is also set defined. So, the responsibility is also from the one who, you know, you are leading, right? So, I just wanted to make that comment that it's not just from the leader, just pulling, leading, directing, but it's also, you know, both ways. And in a formal setting, it is set, right? The expectation is set. The second thing is, well, is it stressful? Of course, it is. It cannot be devoid of stress. It is, it involves a certain amount of stress. You just look at Moses. Moses is like, God, just kill me. Just take my life. You know, these people are too much. They are, you know, mumbling, complaining, you know, grumbling all the time. It is, it, it goes with the territory. You know, it is stressful. So, you might say, okay, maybe I'm not built for that stress. But maybe you are, you know, don't disqualify based on a couple of instances, right? A couple of, maybe, you know, experiences, right? So, don't disqualify yourself by that. Maybe there are certain things, certain strengths that God wants to build in you as well. And that can come when we actually face those times, face those circumstances, face those situations, right? And, and, and maybe God has put some strength in you and you'll be surprised when you face those, those times that the strength actually comes out, you know, when you're pushing against those things that. So, so those are a couple of things that I wanted to just mention, Sam. Yeah. So, yeah, so maybe just you need to take a, I mean, we can, I'm just a suggestion, we can take a kind of deeper look, you know, where is it that, you know, I, I'm not, you know, it could be a different realm, a different scope of leadership also. You know, some of us maybe are, you know, leaders in a different, you know, different role, different aspect, different, you know, different task, maybe even, right? So, maybe you can take a hard look at that and reflect and then see, okay, is this something, you know, that is that I'm passionate about, you know, the end result? So, if I'm passionate about this big picture, then that can actually be contagious to the people who I'm also, you know, taking along with me to that big picture, right? So, that is also another thing to reflect upon and see, okay, am I really very passionate about this particular destination? If so, then, you know, I can take others along with me as well. And that passion, that passion can rub off, that passion can actually, you know, even in correcting, even in resolving certain things with the group, even in motivating, it can actually come through. I don't know if that helped completely, Sam, but just thought I should share those thoughts. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's a big, I'm very excited for this course, but I think there's a lot for me to learn. But yeah, this is, this is an area where I've been, I mean, it's, it's an area of interest to me. And my, I think my own theory is also a little different. I mean, you know, I'm, I'm more, I think, attracted towards the theory where there are no leaders, but, you know, each one is responsible for his or her own role, responsibilities, and, and we are all working in coordination. I don't like like a human body, human organs, all working. I'm also thinking, I'm not sure, but is there a scripture that says, you know, look at the ants that have no leader, but yet they work in unison, some, something around that, but the things where, you know, and I think it's got to do a little bit with power authority. And I'm excited that, you know, as I'm sure in the course of time, we will touch upon power and, you know, the power that comes with the leadership position. I mean, a positional leadership and things like that. So I'm excited and I'm excited for the conversation that we have. But yes, it's helping definitely. Thank you. Right. So, yeah, some thoughts here from Elisha. Thank you, Elisha. Beth also shared some. Can I, so what is the leader according to kingdom standards? Okay, so well, well, I would say this is one who works with kingdom principles for kingdom goals, and who keeps the kingdom and the king, you know, right before him or her. So, yeah, according to kingdom standards, and when we look at it, we see that the Lord Jesus by his example, and also by his life, he brought in a very revolutionary leadership style, that of a servant leader. Right. So, yeah, we see that. So that, you know, that can be one of the things, right, to be a leader with a kingdom standard too. And the Lord said that to be a servant leader, and also, you know, when we look into the scriptures, we see that he said that I've come to serve. So leadership to empower, leadership to serve. And so when you look at it, yeah, that way, you can say that that's a leader according to kingdom standards. Okay, Prabhakar, is it correct for a leader to present the way that is best, but not to take or force others to make that choice, basically showing the way and waiting for them to make decisions? Well, it depends, Prabhakar, like, you know, when you're as a leader, when you're mentoring someone, when it's maybe let's say it's something to do with their personal lives, you know, maybe how they spend their time, how they spend their leisure, you know, even about when it comes to they walk with the Lord, right? So there are certain things that you can, you can suggest, you can show and say, okay, you make the choice. But there are certain things that you need to be forceful and say, you know, you, it depends again, you know, based on your relationship, you know, how was it with them to say that, hey, you cannot take that step, right? Now, I see that it's going to destroy you, you cannot take that step. And God has, you know, placed me to protect you, and I'm not going to, you know, allow you to take that step. It's kind of, it depends, right? And again, if it's a formal, it's a leadership position, then, then again, there are certain expectations, right, to with the group that you are leading. So you are empowered to make that choice and say, okay, guys, yes, we are going to do this. And you take the final call, you know, it depends on how that is defined and what your responsibilities are defined as and what your role is defined as. So within that role, there is also the, you know, the empowerment to take, make certain decisions. And then, like for example, you might have to say that, guys, you know, this next one week, we have to work 12 hours or 15 hours every day in order to, you know, in order to do this particular thing in order to, for this particular release of a particular project to, we need to do this, right? So then, of course, we, you present the case and you get the consensus, but that's something that, you know, you need to, that's a call that you need to take as a leader. Yeah. So in that sense, people, you know, one way to look at it is you're forcing others. But, but really, you're actually, you know, it's within your, your empower to make that choice, make that decision. And it's not to abuse your role, abuse your authority. But it's in fulfillment of the collective goal, you know, as a team. But again, there's a thin line, right? Okay, we'll take a break. It's 53. We'll take a break and we'll come back at 11.53. Sorry, 11.03, right? Okay. Thank you.