 It's the breakfast and plus CV Africa time for of the press as always will take you through the pages of a national dailies And our focus would be on the big stories this morning We have Chris Cain doing one do who joins the conversation. It's good to have you join us Chris. Good morning Good morning. Thanks for having me and happy new months. Happy new month. Chris. Thank you so much We appreciate your time Let's start off with the Guardian newspaper This morning as we look at all the papers being made available by the paper vendor on The Guardian newspaper this morning a demo panel acts for time February 26th APC convention shaky One would be thinking that the all-progressive Congress should have your acts together Being the ruling party, but let's see how things unfold for the APC efforts to reconcile a grift chieftains Inclusive in conclusive. I beg your pardon. We will carefully study interim report of committee That's also another rider there National Assembly transmits reworked electoral bill to Burrari for assent INEC raises security concerns and vows to disqualify airing parties Away from that caption. You also have Balogun others with raw suits and postpone a bad on chieftains chieftain see declaration review Also on the Guardian newspaper this morning terrorists killed 12 and raised homes in Katsina and Just before we move away a matchy announcers Delay in real project as China suspense funding Customs immigration raises a lamb as revenue loss threatens 17 trillion narrow in the 2022 budget. That's it on the garden newspaper That's a birth with the punchy newspaper this morning and begin with the leading headline there still on the APC Convention like the Guardian had APC fabric convention and setting piece panel demands extension and with the following writers Petitions still being submitted. We need one week more says committee chair another rider APC registers 41 million members governor's rule governor rules out convention postponement So we go and see if that convention really hold can't wait for a guest thought on that at the top of a punchy Preparant the following headlines Malami to decide Electro Act bill Malami to decide Electro Act bill National Assembly transmits document to Buhari 243 firms jasso for CBN's multi billion Naira loan scheme Okorcha unveils presidential bid Nox zoning ex-governor charge with 2.9 billion Naira fraud as we called it a rollercoaster of a day for him yesterday Still with the punchy newspaper Senate projects three trillion narrow revenue for agencies customs faults finance bill National Assembly threatens sanctions against MDAs over secret lopsided recruitment National Assembly threatens sanctions against MDAs over secret lopsided Recruitments, let's go to the bottom of that front page 98 suspected political thugs arrested by soldiers in a kitty are rain. That's a quite a number 98 suspected political thugs those probing or pushing for polls without restructuring Political criminals Gani Adams is not spoken for a while those pushing for polls without restructuring our political animals he says Landowner returns unilogs lecturers six million Naira after a punch report alleged arsonists touch of Bassenger's 2.420 Hector Benwe farm gunman Rob beat firemen Wow, those are firemen who came to quench the fire. Oh my at that particular farm It's really sad fear grips a kitty community over influx of Hertz men farms deserted Human parts found with me for my ex boss promising 30 million dollar reward driver Okay, okay, and finally EFCC detains Medview airline boss for lashed nine hundred thousand dollar Hajj Frog those are the headlines coming from the punch in his paper Away from the punch newspaper this morning. Let's look at the leadership and on the leadership newspaper civil society Organizations stakeholders give President Muhammad the Buhari Seven days to sign electrobial. That's very bold and might just be dominating some of the papers this morning Say I neck needs legal framework to issue 2023 elections guideline and Legislature has done its part says the one Northern youths weren't governors and others You remember first as a courier saying that internal mechanism of you know, the umpire That's I neck would actually allow I neck to go ahead with the guidelines whether or not you have this bill being passed Except, you know, I didn't get him Nass gives revenue agencies three trillion Naira target for 2022 budget is just almost the same with the you know, the plan to spend three trillion Naira for Subsidy fuel subsidy. So I don't know what that means troops and please kill 28 terrorists and rescue 30 in Sokoto and Zamfara. That's what you find CBN funds 28 cores with 23.2 billion Naira under 100-400 policy and away from that Nigeria United Kingdom hold fast security dialogue Forex scarcity threats to Niger's short-term growth and just before we move away from the leadership newspaper APC reconciliation committee Submits interim report and acts for more time. So the issue of having the convention on 26th of February. It's quite Shaky has been described by the papers, but that's so much we can take on the leadership this morning let's Finally, we take the headlines from the Daily Trust Newspaper they call it the paper you can trust they have the leading headline nine with the kicker nine years after banks battle discos over 820 billion Naira debts the following writers employees decry salary backlog others neck to half owner manager regime sources little to show an increased electricity supply and Investors overpaid poorly managed discos experts. It's one I take personal, you know, and because of What I had suffered under the protocol electricity distribution company and yesterday I saw that there was a head does a story from Kalaba We're crossing variants. We're asking The government authorities do something about pH. It probably sees your license as was done in another distribution company in Nigeria. It's it's quite quite sad because Consumers are customers of these distribution companies are going through a lot At the top of the Daily Trust front page tariff dispute and h is brokers truce between our healthcare providers HMOs Bandit skill nine in Sakwato Kaduna Niger abduct 50 in Kitsina village really sad Senate gets three trillion Naira target for revenue agencies and Let's check out the story at the bottom of that front page. How I pu be killed herda shot Igbo man's 30 cows That's a sort of an irony How I pu be killed herda shot Igbo man's 30 cows My animals worth 30 million era Peter Oya door late herda spent 20 years working for Igbo's killing despicable Mieti Allah and Finally National Assembly transmits reworked Electro built a Buhari NMPC seeks energy transition investments targets low carbon Economy and APC chairmanship unity stability will be my bond senator Moser And that's the last paper we have. Let's get into the think of things With our guest Chris kind a and one who's a chartered mediator and consulate a miss a one good morning to you And thanks for joining us once again Good morning. Thanks for having me. All right Um, I describe you last time as a day travel as Nigerians, of course because of your name And so let's let's start with the the story on the on the killing of her heads man by allegedly by IPOB members and The the the discovery that those cows belong to an Igbo man. I mean, how does that work out? It's not unfortunate That's what will happen because I I don't know any reason why I poor allegedly does it seem within the ranks of aggregations Whether it was I put that actually did it not Let us even assume that it's I put members It's quite unfortunate Whether is a yes man from any part of the country or Igbo or our sourdough the killing of any person Is regrettable and is condemned in this totality They're moving for that you went to they went ahead to keep that the cows That is the life hold of somebody and they went ahead to keep it Let us even look at it from the point of the directive that allegedly came from them They gave a time frame put and on put as to when cows from other parts of the country Not be seen within the search as we got into that I think it's a preload you or something. I can't remember the so why Slaughtering those cows 30 cows, you know what that means? That's an investment by somebody practically people the economic Fortune of the person deep owner and the person came out to be an Igbo man like you So I would know the reason behind that and I think it's our time our secret agency step of their That's Ned to be able to measure that all those involved that Rested and brought to boom, but it's quite unfortunate And the soul of the header Restlessly from the report who said the guy has been living with them for about 20 years So it's particularly a part of that society's part of that community. So why would anybody want to go ahead? It's quite unfortunate where we find ourselves Ah This to me is becoming very unbecoming. There's any language like that but it comes a surprise to some people that Such cows could belong to an Igbo man in that that's irony I mean, how does that play out? Is this is this rare because the idea is that all these cows are from for full anime men You know people from the north and they're coming down south You know I'm from imo stage and if you go to a place like Koki great In imo stage you realize that That commit is noted for us and his calf setting of cows and be me and rest of them So there are ebos and other parts of Nigeria's who also getting up that they might not be not in the one term that you see with There are some ebos that are also into the art of selling cows and as I rightly said If you go to a kid with him, he must it's where I come from He must I'm from him. I know that within that regional for people. Yeah, a lot of Our second meeting is that already we go with ebos and he was getting probably in the And if you go to the a batua's in the people land all the butters are people people I've never seen an outside but I In the whole of the south is if you go to the market the people that send them as we call it in the south is Ibu's and they are the ones that also kick house. I've never seen an outside man killing cow in my feeling You know, but where I come from we go to the market. You see the book Just like even if you come to the side such as only goes where you go to the batua here Whether or was that please Is your boss a kick house you see that most of them one of those cars also You're a bus their business is where you see them going Not to buy those cars and bring them to the southwest. So it's not only Not an answer who's got a record, but only that they are in the majority But other Nigerians also getting involved in the the business of them cow and the capital as it were Okay, so I'm Chris Kane day in one do let's also look at the leadership news for this morning the issue of the Electoral bill is still dominating the pages of our dailies and almost every day. We still have the conversation now Nars transmit the bill to the president civil society Organization and stakeholders giving the president seven days to sign the electoral bill Do you see, you know the bill being signed within the period of seven days and what happens if the bill is not signed in seven days? Well, everybody every 90 and every day have the rights to say Express their view Constantly any issue. So the sscs who's and stakeholders Mention have the right to say or Yes, that's how to make some bets What constitutional rights that have to give such a Automation is within the Constitution is there anywhere in the Constitution that President seven days To me that is not the light of light line of thought for now The fact is that we should get the president to sign that and ask do that as quickly as possible because I neck is It's waiting for that to be to the science so that they can start Preparing for the forthcoming election a lot of things is here within that constant that Bill electronic transmission of resort and so many other things. So it's not just about it Primaries that come to People have come to identify with that If there's so many other things and I think I've said that except that bill is signed that it may be difficult for us to Be to roll out these activities or plans for the 2023 election. Don't also forget that we have some Staggered election coming up in the next few weeks Months in a kitty and some other states. So The president should now have no reason not to sign because he gave specific instruction as to why he didn't say that That bill and I think that National Assembly have done it We're also reading that it has been sent to the president that also has the AGM When we're looking for that in the next few months, the president will give Nigerians any reason not to sign that because he has Done that in the past about two or three times those views we have passed even before the 2029 election I gave the reason that one of the reason gave was that it was too close to an election period Now we have over a year to go into the election. So you don't give any reason I'm looking forward that the next few days We were able to sign up on the bill so that we can start making preparation for the 2023 election All right Chris and just before you know, I hand you over to Kofi Let's also look at another very dicey issue here They accused that the civil society and stakeholders are making is the fact that INEG needs the legal framework so they can issue the guidelines for the 2023 elections and I remember some time on this platform. We had the We had Festus a Koei who is actually the commissioner of voter information or voter education Spokesperson and he said that the internal mechanisms are you know off the umpire could allow the You know the umpire to go ahead to issue this guidelines as well as falling back, you know to the previous act Yes, I've mentioned it if I just mentioned that was what I said I said that this act needs to be signed into law so that INEG can start preparation for the 2020 election I think that's how I talk to my students and I think that once that is done then INEG has no other option or reason not to go ahead with the Preparation for the 2020. You have to roll a timetable. They have to roll out good that it is that's going to be training Don't forget. They're also going to become this various conversion That's going on is part of the preparation towards the 2020 election So the political parties have to have a time frame as to when to go their conversion when to elect select their presidential candidates, governorship candidates and various So it's a very 2022. It's a very very short year already. We are in February The question here is without the president as sending to this bill can I next to go ahead with Issuing the guidelines for the elections. They are the ready It doesn't have that's not to say that I make must stop That's a bill that was in place. I make has his art. That's what is called a Electoral art or the and yes, which the I make has been operating even right from 1999 to 2015 to 20 So it doesn't have to wait for the president What is what he's saying that most of the modalities and some of the new innovation that you want to put into the which we have Future election already embedded and not work captured in those last act in the The art they're using that which is why they want the president, but if the president does not Refuse to sign it then what is it going to do does it mean that I and I could not conduct election There are two ways to reach if the president to refuse to sign it then the national assembly has the right to go by righty The president of that they have that right So all they need to do is to come together and give the president have a certain number of days to sign it That is what I was saying when I saw the report seven given the president seven days That is not the law the law says that once a bill Is passed to the president by the national assembly. There is a time frame. I can't remember the number of days now If that number of there thinks about 30 60 or I can't remember the number of days now If that this does this last Then the national assembly will record that bill and pass it which of the consent of president So Is neither here nor there if the president doesn't take override it and move on and it becomes not whether the president signs or not Mr. Mr. Wando, let's quickly before we move on to the next headline Stay with this for a while. Look at the the role of Uh abu waka malami In in all of this For some people they might be a bit apprehensive seeing the headline from the punch newspaper Malami to decide electoral act bill as national and surrey transmits document to buhari But but but it's not as bad as it seems because he actually gives what we call a legal opinion On the bill he did it With the first one that was transmitted to the president And he wrote a letter advising president buhari gained signing the electoral act because of the controversial Direct primaries clause. Um, so so so What what do you think of his role in all of this? Malami's role is that of Is what the president says is his legal opinion is that on the general refrigeration. He's his adversary The president doesn't have to take what malami says. There is nowhere in the book where the president must stay Uh, everything that is coming up from the office of the agl so, um, if he advises the president and give reason why certain's the process or session Within the past bill The president should answer to then the president Also to have to listen to him to his largest and but he does not He has no finance say on that the final question that can sign up on that Don't forget this. Malami is not the only person that addressing the president There are so many president have political advisors. He has other advisors who also are legal advisors Not just agl the presidency itself have legal advisors. So it's not just the agl. So the agl can only We cannot be waiting on the agl. He will do his role. He plays his role And don't forget that your largest and the agl is also a politician That is why we have always said that should be a distinction between the office of the attorney general of the federation and And the minister of justice Then we have said that that those two offices should be separated so that one will be manned by a strictly A politician as the case may be then the other my professional when you merge you two together Politicians coming to the The agl has never or the agl have never even been members of the ruling political parties And that at times most of the advice they give They have to tie to towards the point their political parties That they belong to so but his as I said is going to be advisory He will go to advise the president or need but the president doesn't have to wait for the agl Or take everything that agl is able to sign you know not interesting We hear this time according to the point chiefs are still with that headline Um that their sources are telling them they are saying their sources are telling them that the president May also consult the Nigerian communications commission as regards to the issue of electronic transmission of votes Are we not past that that point at this time? We have passed that point and I hope that you don't go to be another way of delaying the signing We don't forget that why is he consulting the ncc again? ncc we are part of those that We are part of in the course of The bill where the bill was taken before the national assembly Uh, we went to the committee stage and stakeholders that all stakeholders came to make their imputes and ncc was one of the stakeholders and they made their input and they gave reason Why they think that that should fly Initially, don't forget that that was a time It was a people it was trying to say oh no there are certain areas that cannot be covered and rest of them And after sometime they came back and said no we can do this This electronic transmission Of result is not as technical As some people make it to believe it's just like your normal sms. You can say sms or wherever I were from wherever you are any part of this country, so I think we've gone past that and ncc have given his own Has given his own Made his own recommendation when it comes to that and as far as I'm concerned. I think it's from beyond that president doesn't need to consult ncc or wherever again What he was specific in what he wanted And they what he stated in the last number he gave reasons about three or four reasons why If they added that the portion of that bill should not be it cannot sign it the area of Primaries of the political parties and what's the point that he has no reason not to sign that into writing Okay, just as we quickly coasted down this morning on the paper review Let's quickly share your thoughts on this one. It's on the guardian newspaper By the way, rotimi and mechi announces delay in real project as china suspends funding So it feels like you know the real project in niger will probably just have to You know be paused because china has actually suspended funding of this project That's what's happening. Who goes uh, uh, burrowing go and begging so We went burrowing there. We are within the Within the space of any country that we said or any organization Not to give us again. Oh, well, I wouldn't I don't know the reason. I've not read a student I don't know the reason given by the minister Uh for the suspension of beds. I believe that there always been a bilateral agreement on issues like that Is a contract as we say in law a contract is a contract Uh, and if it's a valid contract, uh, so we say in law is uh, science See than the nibba as was a concern. So that is uh, that is a valid contract in law So you have an agreement and there's a valid contract signed with china as issue relating to those issue of Those funds then china has not shown that to accept there within the clause There are certain things that in this case they've seen that because wanting to sign a contract But if you bridge that contract then I as a person at a party to that contract have a right To renege on the contract. So if there's something else that they feel that may they have reneged on And based on that they are not releasing the necessary one that's supposed to be then But the concern is should we be as a country boring to you know finance critical infrastructure I mean, let's just even not even go by that particular story now Should we be boring to finance critical infrastructure such as uh, you know the real project? There's no country in the world that doesn't borrow United States of America borrow United Kingdom borrow Russia borrow Germany borrow All the world countries of the world South Africa as good as the economy Borrow money, but what our own problem my problem with that is that we will challenge those Money that we borrow into the right projects that we're used to and that has always been Most often than not to borrow and share the money or the imbeciles and the rest of them That's not around one is to borrow another thing is also to challenge is because when you borrow for capital projects They invest in that capital is supposed to be re yield back the funds for you to pay back That is how it is That is the difference between Nigeria and other countries that could they borrow go and see what Rwanda is doing Go and see the level of infrastructure in Rwanda. Yes, they brought to be able to obey You see that was what most of the infrastructures You did yield dividends and be able to be able to pay back go to Ghana also So but our only is that we say we are borrowing we are borrowing at the end of it If you don't book no businessman even than good thing is the richest man in Africa Mr. I would tell you that down good thing grows money Can could they cannot run his company that worry? There's no company that wrong with that worry The fact is that the money you are borrowing are you utilizing it for it? But it does not necessarily mean that you must rely 100 percent on burying You also have the work the 19 income We say crude oil Are we not making money from our crude oil? We're also talking about the sensitive other sectors of the economy mining agriculture and so many other sectors Where we think we can be able to make make money and foreign exchange But you are not doing that would depend on the problem is All right, it's I think it's it's it's already on record that the The federal government has said, you know, this is a model revenue model for the rail sector and they have Where the money is going to come from? So it's been interesting time to see if the issues with the the loans can be sorted out So Nigeria can can really enjoy the rail services as well Chris candy Wando is a chartered mediator and Constellator you've been an analyst this morning on off the press I want to thank you very much for your time and hope to see you soon Thank you very much for having me. I do have a nice day ahead. All right. Thank you very much, sir Mercy, um, it's time to look at what happened today is the first day of february 2022. 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