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Athena is a certified Reiki master, Crystal Reiki master and chakra healer and the creator of Crystal Reiki healer, one of the fastest growing online presences. In addition to creating content for Instagram and her website, Athena contributes to podcast and radio shows and performs Reiki healing locally in California as well as helping to heal people around the globe with distance healing. To learn more, go to her website, crystalreikihealer.com. And with that, I welcome Athena to Dear to Dream. It is so great to have you. I love, thank you so much for that beautiful intro. It's so lovely to be here and I'm so grateful for you and how many people you get to reach. Congratulations on your podcast. It's really a blessing to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, for me and for the audience as well. I'm so grateful to be connected with you. It's always fun to learn the new things that people are doing. And I was really tickled with your niche because I thought I've actually never heard that before. Crystals and Reiki and Chakras like this, it actually makes sense when you hear it this beautiful blend. So you wrote this book, this new book which I've read, Raise Your Fibes. How did you get into this journey, this healing journey? And how did you get to the point where it's like, oh, not only do I have this worldwide presence, but now I think I need to take it to the next step and write a book. Oh, thank you so much. Yes, well, my journey begins very humbly, like many people out there looking for healing. I had suffered with chronic back pain for about 16 years. And it ended in surgery. And prior to that, I had been looking and I tried everything across the board in Western medicine, how to heal, what pills to take, what exercises to do, different therapies. I mean, I had tried everything, strengthening my core and I still was left with debilitating back pain. And I just thought, I got to a point, my children were getting a little bigger and I thought, there has to be something that I can do that's better. I need to take my power back because I can't live like this. I'm not, you know, I wasn't as good of a mom. I wasn't as good of a wife, friend. Chronic pain is no joke. Chronic pain is very debilitating. It's very debilitating. And I really was in a point in my life where I had to make a choice to make some changes. And that's when I came into Reiki and I just thought, this is such a beautiful healing modality. I need to learn more about it. How do I do this? Where do I find it? Where do I find a practitioner? And my husband was like, you're gonna do Reiki? Like what? Who does Reiki? I said, well, I'm gonna do Reiki. So this is what we'll do. And I had already loved crystals and I loved the blend that the two energies together. I felt that it was just a really nice union. And, you know, everything that's in our body, whether it's an emotional trauma or a spiritual trauma, it manifests physically. So even though I had had an accident back in the day, there was no reason that I should have this kind of chronic back pain. So I really wanted to work on healing myself. And when I was in the hospital, I had already become a Reiki master and I was even trying to grow bone. Reiki's amazing for bone growth. And in my X-ray, you could see my body trying to grow bone. Like the bone was a little longer in my back. The pars, it's called a pars. And it didn't quite catch. And that fracture is what, you know, my husband's a chiropractor and he's like, I can't do anything for this. Like no amount of therapy, you have to fix it. So I started doing Reiki for that, like trying to channel, like, lead me to the best doctor, you know, how do I get there? And in the hospital afterwards, I was in such incredible mind-blowing pain. I mean, just, I mean, I have three kids and this was nothing. Like all three together didn't combine. Like the nerves, the back, the incisions, like, oh my goodness. And at one point and my jaw was rattling. I was shaking. Can I ask you, did you have your back fused? I did, yes. I had a fusion at my L5S1. And I was in an extraordinary amount of pain and sobbing. And at one point in the hospital, my husband screams over my sobs, you're a Reiki master for God's sakes. Do Reiki on yourself. And I was like this light switch, like, oh my gosh, you're right, I can do that. Okay, let's try it. You know, I'd only ever done it in nice, calm, soothing, you know, healing rooms where it's all lovely and calm and nothing like this. So I started to do my hand placements and channeling the energy to myself and suddenly like 45 seconds in, my jaw stopped rattling, my breathing came back to me. All of a sudden I could see I had all these people in my room with me that I didn't even know were there. And it was like this amazing just light switch, like a testimony. Oh my God, this isn't just something that's, okay, it feels good, it's nice. No, this is something that really, really works and is really powerful and you can do yourself. And so I just thought I need to share this. I need to bring this out to the world and let people know that you don't have to be dependent on our healthcare. You don't have to be dependent on the doctor who tells you, you know, this is what you have to take to feel better. All of our healing starts with us. It all starts with us, how we take care of ourselves, different modalities that we can do on our own. And so writing this book was really, you know, it's really like that as one of my reviews said a labor of love because it really was, it took all of this hardship, all of this pain. And I was able to channel that into a place that hopefully will help other people on their journey. And, you know, we're healing from so many things right now from emotional issues, you know, depression, anxieties, self love is an issue, confidence, all of these things that really came into focus this past year, especially with the pandemic where we were forced to turn in, tune in, discover so much about ourselves. And so hopefully this will, you know, lead people to a better light and understanding of how they can take their power back and really heal themselves. You know, people who have their back fused don't always do very well after surgery, not just what you're talking about, that extreme pain, the thereafter, it's not often very successful and it necessitates further fusion, right, further surgery. So with that in mind, how have you done since? So you have this great awakening, your husband yells at you, you're in the hospital, it's like, oh, okay, I have this at my disposal, 45 seconds in, everything calms, you're present. And what has the going forward been like using Reiki and your other modalities for your particular body? Yes, it has been an amazing journey. Part of why I put off that surgery for so long is that it does have a very high failure rate, back surgery in general, not just fusion, but any back surgery has a very high failure rate. And it's a very intense surgery. I mean, your back is a weight bearing joint, really. So any kind of weight standing, laying, everything affects it. And in the months following my surgery, I couldn't go upstairs for a while, I stayed downstairs here in my healing room, actually, which I didn't know it was gonna be where I was healing. And I laid with my crystals, I mean, I was sleeping with crystals, I was sleeping with Reiki, I created all these different new shower meditations and affirmations and like the first week that I was home, I was writing with a dry erase marker affirmations, I am strong, I am healing, I am loved. Just in the morning I would see this and it was really empowering, like, yes, I've got this, I can do this. And now I'm several years out from the surgery and knock on wood, as I always say, I've been pain-free, I've had no pain. I have six screws and two brackets in there. And I thought maybe in the colder months that I would struggle, but I really have had, I've been really good, I have to say. And part of that is really taking care of myself, you know, I do self-Reiki every day, I have my gratitude practice every morning, every day, working on other people, you know, when I help others heal themselves, I'm also working on myself. That's one of the beautiful things about Reiki, you're channeling this divine healing energy, this light. And as you channel it, where does it go? Well, it goes through you to the person, right? So it's not me, it's not me healing, I'm channeling this light, but as I do that, I'm welcoming that beautiful healing energy into myself as well. So that's really been a huge part of my self-care and staying strong spiritually, emotionally, physically, and the pandemic was really hard for a lot of people and my husband and I, we always said, well, it was really good for us. Our relationship became really strong where we got to hang out with our kids so much. I wrote a book, I mean, it was kind of an amazing time. Like there's always a silver lining and that was my silver lining. Yes, we were frustrated, we couldn't go out, we couldn't do anything really, but we had a real opportunity to tune in and turn into what was important to us. And for me, it was doing so much healing, it was amazing for people really all over the globe. I mean, right now I've been working with people in India just to, because I know they're going through a lot in the current circumstances, but people all over Australia and Europe and Austria everywhere, I mean, it's been a beautiful way to connect with people that I probably wouldn't have if I hadn't gone into Reiki as a healer. And you're working with people globally and the people that you work with locally, do you have an office somewhere in Southern California? Well, I can't work in my husband's office, he has a chiropractic office, but I really like to do it here in my healing room. This space is so sacred and represents so much healing energy. I mean, I healed myself here. And so that really, that energy kind of, it just remains, it stays. And everybody who comes into my office here, is now in my office slash healing room, but now everybody that comes in here, they feel that, they sense that. So yes, I can do it in an office and I have. And for some people, they like that more kind of clinical feel, which is great. But I prefer to do it here in my home and in my office tucked away from everyone. And it's just been beautiful. The outside is gorgeous. Now that the weather's warming up, I do the Reiki healings outside and we have the waterfall running. And I mean, it's kind of like your background. It's like a beautiful serene environment, which is wonderful when you're in the moment. But for people who are in a lot of pain, I also will go to the hospital. I have my minister's license. So I'm a licensed reverend and I'll go in and hospitals will allow me to go in and do Reiki for them. It's also wonderful for people who are in hospice care, just to help them have an easier transition. A lot of the time they'll be holding on for, for reasons of love or fear. And Reiki really helps them to feel more at peace and settled and have an easier transition and for the families as well. And you mentioned self Reiki. So that sounds like a process. Is that something that people can learn? Can we do this at home? Absolutely, absolutely. I would love for more people to do this on their own. In my book, Raise Your Vibes, it's called a self attunement, but it's really me attuning the reader. I've blessed the entire book with Reiki. I don't think this has ever been done before and other Reiki masters so far have had really nice feedback at the way I put it together. It wasn't sure how it would be received, but it's a really nice way if you follow the steps, you follow my words, my guidance. And I literally have attuned these pages to help the person channel. And then what you can do that, you can channel Reiki then to anything, to your crystals, to your life, to your affirmations, to your physical body, your emotional body. It's really a beautiful thing to do your own self care. You're taking your power back. You're responsible for how you feel. And I know sometimes it's easier to, you know, maybe, oh, the doctor's fault or this guy's fault or he did it, she did it. But when we take that responsibility for our own wellbeing and then we feel good, the amount of just the overwhelming feeling of like, I did this is so incredible and so empowering and gives you so much clarity on how amazing you really are and how much you can do if you just put your mind to it. And of course, the more you practice, you do have to practice, you have to do the work, but as the more you practice, the more you really start to sense that energy as it is. And this universal feeling of love, you start to really tune into it and feel it more. You have something in your book called a Reiki Blessing Attunement Ceremony, which is meant to usher in this beautiful energy of Reiki that you're talking about. And basically with our hands and prayer in front of our heart, we say out loud, I and our name, so in this case, I Debbie Dashinger, call upon Reiki, the universal life force. I am ready and open to receive the Reiki attunement. So talk us through that. What else about that process do we need to know? Well, you have to have an open mind, right? So having an open mind, allowing yourself to receive is really the big one. So take, for example, people who are religious. They have incredible faith. I mean, these people, they've never seen Jesus or God or Messiah or whoever, but they have incredible faith and belief that this is real. And people that are in the spiritual world, a lot of the time kind of struggle with this faith, sometimes because maybe it's not in God or we'll say source or universe, but it's harder when we're manifesting. We tend to blame ourselves. Why isn't this happening right now? Why can't I make this work? But when you start to open yourself to receive the blessing that you're gonna receive from this, you really, you can feel like an inner sense of peace. So people don't have to know Reiki. They don't have to be a Reiki practitioner, but just to say these words actually invoke something. Something occurs and a shift happens. And keep in mind, this isn't just from, you're not just reading a book. You're reading pages that have been blessed with Reiki energy. So the intention there is if you are open to receiving, you will be able to receive this blessing. If you're reading it and you're like, I'm not so sure, okay, well, maybe you're not open or you're not ready yet and that's okay. And even if you don't wanna do the attunement section and you just wanna try some of these other fun rituals, that's okay too. I mean, everybody's different and what resonates for them will be different. What resonates for you today might be different tomorrow. What part of the book works for you today might be different tomorrow and that's okay. It's really, there's no judgment here. It's about helping you help yourself on your journey. And if you are open to receiving this beautiful energy, I mean, please do because it has been absolutely life changing. Oh, like what kind of things happen? Somebody says, I Debbie Daschinger call upon Reiki, the universal life force. I am ready and open to receive the Reiki attunement. What kind of things happen for people? Well, everybody's different, but for some they'll just have an overwhelming sense of peace. Some people get very tired and they feel like they wanna sleep. Some people will have physical sensations. It could be tingling. It could be like a warming sensation. Sometimes their hands will get hot. Sometimes they'll feel it. Wherever in the chakra area, maybe where they really needed to channel energy, they'll often feel some sensation. Sometimes that's tingling. It's a warmth. It's a love. Other things people will feel like they're floating. Some people will see colors. Some people like if you do this while your eyes are closed, sometimes people will see flashes of color behind their lids. It's really unique to you because you're your own energy and you're different. And that's what's so beautiful about it is it has no judgment about who you are or where you're from or what you practice or what your life is. It is open and available to everyone. And mind you, we all have this. We all have this ability to channel this energy. It's just now with this, you're able to kind of open that channel a little bit. So say you have like, you know, like how a dam works holding back a river. And if there's like a little crack, you'll have like little seeps of water. So you'll have it, it'll trickle through. But when you open those floodgates, it's like that energy just pours through you. And you really do sense and feel the difference and you'll see it in your life. For some people, that shift is immediate. It's like right away, they feel it. And then some people it's, you know, a few days later or the following week where all of a sudden they just kind of stop like, wait a minute, I'm feeling differently about this. I'm looking at life a little different or aha moments. Like now I know what it is I want to do with myself. So everybody kind of responds differently, but it is all together. It's a shift in our energy and how you respond to that is your own way of responding to that. You have so many amazing rituals in the book and so readers are going to get a lot of great information on that. And one of the things you talk about is sound healing. I'm really into sound healing. Tell me about sound healing for you. How has that impacted your life? How do you use it? So sound healing is another one pretty much every, well, not pretty much everything that's in this book I have done myself. So I am really my own guinea pig. I haven't tried it. I'm not going to tell somebody else to do it because I don't know. So sound healing is really good. Sound has a vibration and everything has a vibration really. Even our thoughts have a frequency. And with sound, you can actually physically feel this. I mean, if you've ever stood next to a speaker or you turn the radio up real high in your car you can see that base vibrating and moving things, right? So that really ourselves are made of mostly water. Our bodies are mostly water. And water is like a ripple effect when you give that vibration to water you can see how it actually moves, how it heals. And there have been studies. Doctors have gone over this and what happens with water when you speak loving vibrations to it like even just the word love. You can see it creates these beautiful crystal shapes versus anger or fear it ends up being like this messy blob. So when you use sound healing especially when you're turning into certain frequencies that really can help restore your energy restore your cells on a cellular level so that you're functioning in a healthy, vibrant way. And just that make think about also like a song that maybe you knew from childhood that will spark a memory in you because water holds memory. So when you hear that music it will literally spark a memory in you that maybe you hadn't thought about in decades or years depending how old you are and that will trigger something and that can work really well for healing too. So when people go to like say a sound bath for example that can trigger memories that need to come to the surface to heal. It can go through your body through your chakra centers. It heals you on a level that you really feel because you can feel the vibration. So with energy healing, with all energy healing a lot of it sometimes it's more subtle and sometimes it's more big like with sound. The first time I did a sound bath I felt like I was flying in space. I mean, it was the most amazing thing. I was like, I was like, where am I? And I could feel myself lifting. And afterwards I was like, this is awesome. Like I have to do more of this. And when I was in the hospital healing a very good friend of mine came in with a stroller full of sound bowls and set up this whole sound bath for me. And helped me, it was amazing especially in those moments of pain. It's so soothing and really liberates you and releases anything you've been kind of holding on to emotionally, physically, spiritually or otherwise. Have you ever been to the Integra Charm? Oh, I have not. No, where is that? Tell me. Okay, it's out in Joshua Tree. Okay. And it's this arc that was created by an architect who says that he received the blueprint download and how to build it from an alien. And it's just this, it's been around for decades and decades and decades. It's old, people will testify that it's amazing and they do these crystal bowl healings inside. Of course, now they only allow a certain amount. Now they're just starting to open up. So it's not quite as many as they used to be able to contain in that space, but that's something I've always wanted to go experience because just the idea of being in a cavernous place that was built for healing, and then on top of it to have the sound healing where you're laying there, it just seems so divine. Well, that's amazing because then you also have those frequencies, I imagine hitting whatever this dome is and then radiating back down on you. So, I mean, that's a beautiful, I'm happy to go with you, if you ever open up. Yes, yes, absolutely. And I love, thank you so much, it's cool, I love that. That's great, I totally will go, yes, yes, I love it. And I love too, I remember the first time I had booked, there was something that I saw where I lived, I used to live in West Hollywood and I had booked something that was like massage and a crystal bowl healing. And I was like, best for the crystal bowls but yay for the massage, I was totally down for the massage. That was just a whatever adjunct. And when the massage was done, this very gifted woman sat me down, it was just for me, it was a private, which is really amazing. And I remember the size of these bowls, they were enormous. And it's so perfect because this is me and this is my life, this is how everything comes to me and I'm just laying there, you know, whatever. And all of a sudden she starts playing these and I don't know how she knew how to play what she played because it really felt very personal, but I will say I found myself crying and it shocked me, the emotional somehow healing I had whatever was being released from my body and at the same time, because the sound is so angelic, you know, it was really, really amazing like that. And Reiki has a very similar feeling, people experience a very similar feeling. This is all energy healing. So, you know, anytime you have those emotional blocks, we have that dissonant energy that's kind of stuck, right? And to be able to release that, sometimes it's released through tears and becoming emotional and it's so great because then after, as I'm sure you can say too, after you feel so much calmer, so much better, it's almost like, wait, what massage? Forget the massage, I want the bowls, right? You really have that beautiful release and that stays with you. I mean, just like this memory you have of the healing, when I had my attunement, my first one, it was incredible. I had my eyes open for this one and I could see like crystal shapes, like in purple on the ceiling. And I thought, I swear, I didn't take anything. Like, what is even going on? And I knew exactly when it finished because everything kind of dissolved and went back to normal. And it was an amazing, wild experience and one that you kind of chase, right? Like you want that healing back again. So I totally understand with the sound healing, it's the same, it's this beautiful divine healing energy and with sound, you're able to create that here on the physical plane. And with Reiki, you're channeling that from source, from our divine plane, I guess, if you will. However you want to explain that, whatever you want to say. It's just another language. I like that healing. And I love that you work with crystals. That's so amazing that people get so much in so many levels at the same time. What is your favorite crystal to work with or to have around you in your life? Well, I, gosh, it's so hard to choose. But I would say my favorite probably would be Amethyst. It's, and I'm wearing that, you know, I'm wearing that now. I've always got my Amethyst on me and you can see that. Oh, it's spectacular. And it's gorgeous. And, you know, it has that gorgeous divine healing. It opens, you know, it's for your third eye, your crown, your connection to source. But it also has that beautiful energy of the violet flame. It is incredible for protection. So I have it, I have big pieces all over my house. Funny, my husband was like, what are you doing with all these rocks? And now he buys these like giant pieces for me. I'm like, yay, I brought you over. So what on your picture, this huge Amethyst heart that you have? Yes, my beautiful heart. It's sitting here with me on the desk. I always keep that one close. Pick it up and show us. Oh, absolutely. That is a piece. It is heavy. There we go. Oh my gosh. Now, was that a gift from him or was it? It was. So this piece in particular, he gave me Christmas right after my surgery. So I was still in my giant back brace and which is like a body cast. And he thought, okay, it's heavy. So he was like, okay, you better sit down. And then he's like, wait, you can't even lift it out of a bag. Hold on. And my kids were all around and they had brought it out and he said it on my lap. He told me to put my hands out and set it on my lap and talk about emotional when as soon as I felt this, I hadn't even seen it yet. Just tears started just pouring. I mean, it was just, oh my God, I was like sobbing with love. I'm gonna cry now. I was like sobbing with love over this crystal. Because the energy was so incredible. And now I have some beautiful photos. My mom took that picture, actually, the one of me holding the amethyst. And. Thank you for sharing that. Oh my gosh. That is really special. That's spectacular. Wow. And so you're talking about your mom taking your picture in this beautifully supportive husband. Yay, we love him. Yes. So tell me a little bit this Hollywood dynasty. I think that's a cool, interesting angle. Hollywood dynasty girl goes, you know, healer. It's fascinating. How are you? So I'm sure for you, like everybody else in this town, right? It's like, that was my family. You know, that's what I knew. It was no different. Auntie, uncle, you know, mom, da, da, da. So anything for you or just like cool movie tickets to really good jeans. And really, God, thank you. Yes, no, it was, I guess like anything else for people who grew up in a family of doctors or lawyers or nurses or whatever it is. Mine was the family of artists. So I think it's fair to say our family get-togethers were a little bit louder maybe than most. A lot of dramatic personalities. And, but with, you know, with my aunt especially, I mean, she was like a mega superstar in Hollywood. And that of course had its impact on... Which one are you talking about? Because I think they're all kind of mega. Okay, I guess they all kind of... It was Uber Mega. It was Uber Mega. Well, so Rita, who I'm probably closest to, I guess you would say, at least, you know, line-wise, you know, my dad grew up going to her house and my, you know, my, his cousins, my, we call them my uncles, but they would all go over there and they had family get-togethers and it was like any other family, you know, they get into fight over politics. And then, you know, my grandfather's charging out, dragging my grandma and my grandma's like, oh my God, not again. Like, can you guys just stop fighting? You know, so it, you know, we're like really any other family get together, right? Imagine, you know, we say like at Thanksgiving, no tough politics, right? So that's very much what the family was like, but everybody, it kind of passed on. Everybody is so, you know, gifted. I guess it's like in the blood. And my daughter, even now, she's always dancing and twirling around and singing and putting herself, she has an imaginary YouTube channel that she, well, she thinks it's real, but she has a, I don't want to put it up. She's seven, she just turned seven. But she's such a performer and you just, you see it. And it's one of those things that I guess you just, you know, it's in the blood. You inherit that. I grew up a dancer and then I went into acting myself. And then I got married and I knew that, you know, like Rita, like Ginger, marriages don't do very well in Hollywood. Both were married five times. And I knew when I married my husband that I really had to make a choice, you know, do I want to continue with this or do I want to, you know, have my marriage? And I chose him. Like in the forward of my book, I always say, you know, to my amazing angel of a husband, like I will always choose you. And it's, that's where that stems from and acting was fun. It was, it was great. I really have loved the quiet life though. I have to say it's been really nice just working with clients, working with friends, working with my crystals, writing. I love writing. So this is all kind of new. It's almost like it's the limelight keeps pulling me back. Like, no, we're going to bring you on camera. Like, no, but I left. So, you know, with the family, I mean, fun stories. I don't know, we had family politics and dinners, but then there was also a lot of love and a lot of really warm, protective energy. When you grow up in a light like that where there's, you know, there's paparazzi and there's people always asking questions, you become very protective. And that's one thing that was really nice that maybe is a little bit more than your average, just because there was something to protect immediately from that you could see. So I guess, but other than that, I mean, it's just kind of, you know, just a loud, big family. I mean, I think Italians would know what I'm talking about. Yeah, totally. And are any of them your customers? Any of the Italians? Right. C'è la luna med sommari. Are any of your dynasty, I love that word. I mean, I'm going to use it a lot because I don't get to say that often. Are any of these dynasty people or their children thereof, are they your customers? Do they come to you for Reiki? Have you helped anybody? Like in my family line, no, I haven't. I mean, there was a very small line. They didn't have a lot of space. People listen to this interview, come see her. She's like, oh no, I know, you're such a love. Thank you. You know, my cousin, the princess, Yasmin, she's in New York and she's beautiful. She's done a lot of work for the Alzheimer's Foundation since Rita had Alzheimer's, but she lives a very different life than I grew up with. And her sister, Rebecca, she passed. This is quite a few years ago now and tragically, Princess Yasmin, her son passed as well. So, you know, the family's pretty small on that end. I think my parents were trying to make up for that by having seven kids. They wanted to keep the family lines strong, so I'm the oldest of seven, which is still, I can't believe sometimes. I have three myself. I have no idea how my parents did it. Like that was amazing. Yeah, kudos to them, but I love that. It's funny how we make up for things in different ways based upon what we experience, we replicate or we change. I also really love the fact that in a lot of ways, you're shifting your own lineage, right? And you're just altering, you're taking energy because you said we are all artists. So you're taking still this art energy and yet channeling it in a whole new direction at a really apropos time because the world really needs people like you to get us through what we've been through and certainly into this new age that is dawning. I mean, it's here, right? This is happening. There is no turning back. We made the choice to be here at this auspicious time to definitely usher in something new. What are your feelings about what's next on the planet with people and with what's possible using your Reiki, your crystals and your chakra work? Yes, well, I have to say there's always a silver lining, right? So this pandemic, yes, it was very hard and has catapulted us into a whole new light. But the silver lining here too is that people really had a chance to turn in and tune in to what was important, what is important to their self-care, to have take care of themselves. I mean, we couldn't even see doctors for a good part of the pandemic and using Reiki and crystals. I'm not saying replace your doctors. I'm not saying you don't need any of that Western medicine because I've used it myself. So yes, you take your meds by all means but why not also channel Reiki energy to that medication? Which I do a lot, especially for chemo patients just to make sure that medicine is going for their highest good and Reiki and crystal energy and working with your chakras, keeping yourself balanced, keeping yourself centered, a strong hara, as the Japanese call it, our earth ki, which is our solar plexus, our sacral and our root chakras, keeping these strong and grounded really resonates into everything else that we do in our life. So having this opportunity to turn in and tune in to our own self-care has really been a gift. And I hope that people continue. I hope it's not like, oh, the world's back open. Let's go mask off back to our nonsense and things that aren't really important. No, let's change that. Let's change this dialogue. Let's change the way we approach our life, the way we speak to ourselves, the way we speak to our loved ones. Like really hold this. Take it as the lesson that it's been, the blessing that it has been and move forward using that, this new knowledge that we have, use crystals, use Reiki, use sound healing, use any of the other amazing tools that are in this book to really fill in the gaps in your own care, in your own self-healing. That's kind of what I did at Western Medicine by itself wasn't doing it, but this really filled in those gaps. And now I get to live here without pain, with a wholesome loving marriage, with changing and breaking those family patterns instead of fighting with people and getting into it over politics or throwing in the towel when things are hard. I've chosen to approach this a little bit differently and hope that maybe doing it a little different will work out better, not just for me, but for him, for our kids, for generations to come. I mean, the choices we make now in this life, even the choices this week will affect us next week. So make choices that will resonate in a way that you can live a better and happier life. It's not to say you're always gonna be happy. Everybody's gonna have harder moments. I mean, we all have our thing, right? As I say, we all have our thing, the thing that we have to deal with, that we have to overcome, that we're gifted with in this life to learn about ourselves and how to work through it. And using energy healing tools, it's just a beautiful way to help you heal through this, help you peel those layers one by one and face those shadows, that shadow side, that those demons, those skeletons in the closet, bring them out and put them in new light and see what happens. We had a year to lock down, what do we have to lose? It's, can the world get crazier? I mean, the time moving forward is now. No, it's really interesting what you say about the importance of what we do and how we impact. So I read something recently, I never knew this fact before. So basically it's a book about why it's so important to clean up ourselves and how to do these very particular cleanses, if you know, medical medium, the book. So one of the things that he talks about is the fact that when we do a cleanse, we're not just cleansing ourselves, we're cleansing all the generations that came before us. Meaning that everything they ingested, breathed, coal mines they worked in, poor oceans, poor water, poor food, famines, medicine, illnesses, et cetera, that got passed down genetically. So when we clean things up, what you're talking about internally, which creates also the external change, this is like another kind of cleanse, a Reiki cleanse, it's very important and it really is true we're changing the emotional lineage and the ancestry of everything that we're leaving behind on this planet and to those we love. So like that is a big point that you make and I agree with you, I think it is incumbent on us to do the work. We may have been bequeathed, a load we're not thrilled with for some of us, a little more difficult, but you must add big shoulders to make that choice in this lifetime to come in and clean that stuff up and you can do it, you can do it. And that's it, that's the point is you can do it. And I mean, what are we gonna do? Let it defeat us and then what happens? You're gonna come back and do it all over again in another form? I mean, what's the point? Why do you wanna do that? Like, no, we have to get through and we're all faced with something, nobody gets off easy in this life, nobody gets it's got free. Everybody has something that they're dealing with. That's where the quote always be kind because you never know what somebody's going through. So true. And it's so true, even the person who looks like, oh my God, she has it all, look at her. She's got the perfect life, she's got the right style, she's got the adoring children, the wonderful husband, the big house, but you don't know that inside she's suffering or has a mental illness or has a mom that is off in a closet somewhere shooting up. You never know what other people are going, sorry, that's a graphic description, but it's true because you never know what someone's going through. And all you can do is be kind and speak from a place of love and work on healing yourself. Because when you vibrate higher, everybody around you does too. Just think about when you go to a market, you can tell, you can sense when someone's having a bad day, you feel that energy coming off of them, whether you're a reiki healer, a sound healer, or just a doctor or a school teacher, you feel that energy from that person. So imagine and you want to get away, like, oh, this makes you uncomfortable. So imagine if you're vibrating from that place of love, from that high vibration, everybody is attracted. They want to be around you, make them feel good. Likewise, when you're around a healer, they make you feel good. And there's a reason for that. They're vibrating at a higher level. And when you come close to that, your energy shifts to match that as well. And that's what's so beautiful about working with crystals is you're literally helping your own vibration raise to that of the crystal energy. And working with, like you're saying, ancestral trauma. Look, it's all in our DNA, right? We're made up of a huge amount of water. All of our DNA comes from our parents, which comes from theirs, from theirs, from theirs. And you get a little piece of that with every generation. Another piece comes through. And we don't know how it's gonna come through. Like, my mom has blue eyes, but I have brown. Okay, well, so I got this trauma. My brother got a different one. That doesn't mean that we just blow it off and accept it. No, we have to work on healing that trauma so that we can move through. If I have bad eyes, I'm gonna put some glasses on. I'm not gonna just go ahead and live through life blind. You wanna work on healing yourself so that you have that freedom and hopefully that divine connection that we're really all searching for. And then pass that when you have your kids or your nieces or your nephews, pass those messages to them so then they can live a happier life. They can work on their own trauma or have the tools that they need to get through it. So we're not numbing ourselves with all these other things, right? 100%. Well, we're getting toward the end, but I wanna ask you if you'd be willing to do a blessing. I know you've got a, let me, I hope I'm gonna say it right. Reju, right? Rehu, just Rehu, yeah. Rehu blessing that you perform. Would you do one for the audience? Oh, I would be delighted, of course. I love channeling Reiki, of course. Okay, so a Rehu blessing is very straightforward. This won't be quite the same as my attenuement in the book, but a Rehu blessing is a blessing all on its own. So if you're, just take a moment and we open to receive. And if you wanna open your hands, just lay them kind of palms up wherever on your lap. If you're laying down, whatever feels good for you, just be comfortable and just take a moment to receive. And I'm gonna ask if you can just talk us through this since there will also be, this will be syndicated also on podcast and radio. So I know people will be very curious, of course. You can go to youtube.com slash Debbie Daschinger to actually see this beautiful prayer in the movements that Athena is doing. So go ahead and breathe easy and as I bring my hands above and bring me to just allow yourself, receive the Reiki as a channel. Feel this on the top of your head, just at your ground. Make sure that the front and the back of your head and then the forehead to either side of your head. Just above the ears, the knees, the soles, the energy to bow and hold on. And now, back of your mouth, you can allow in that love to filter through your words to yourself and others and to your throat that you were able to hear and to see the truths of others, as well as speak to your heart center, that you vibrate on a place of love, choices that you make in your life. Your truth, your heart centers and channeling to your open palms that you may use your hands for the gifts that resonate for you, actions you physically take in the whole to be through your heights. And then lifting that energy from below your feet, up through your centers, raining down and bring your hands to prayer position and then let's go so. And just take a moment of gratitude for yourself, for the energy of Reiki, allowing yourself to receive a divine payment. Girl. Wow, I felt that. That was so beautiful. I'm ready for a nap now. Yeah, that was, I don't wanna say relaxing. It's, because I feel incredibly clear and present and sharp, but something just sort of drained out, something that needed to drain out. But I really energetically felt what was going on. That was incredible. No, thank you. So it makes sense. Like the distance healing I can see and people who are listening as well as watching on YouTube, you can understand why distance healing works. So energy is not bound by space or time. It's all encompassing and we gotta just get out of our own way, let those rules go to the side and allow ourselves to receive. Yes. And amazing to connect. And there's so many people that are gonna be enjoying this and amazing. This was the first time I've actually talked my way through a Rehu blessing. I've never actually described it like that while I do it. So that was really an amazing first. Thank you for that. That was beautiful. Yes. Good, because it actually was an enhancement too. So for those who are listening to the podcast, you can still see the entire process, the Rehu blessing. Rehu blessing. Rehu blessing. Now I've got it. So you can see it because it's quite beautiful. She's using her hands. And so Athena, Bari, this is Dare to Dream. What are you next, Dare to Dream? As you said, silver lining you accomplished a lot during COVID strengthens your love, strengthened your Reiki practice, wrote books and are creating all these lovely healings out into the world. What's next for you though? What are you next dreaming about doing? My next dream, just to reach as many as I can, I'm putting together a Crystal Reiki Academy so that others can also find more answers that they're seeking and hopefully it will support them on their path, their journey. They can learn more about how to do Reiki themselves, like get certified. They'll be able to learn about crystals and how to heal themselves with chakra centers. And I'd love to write another book. I don't know. We'll see what happens if I'm dreaming big. And the other is the main is just that my children grow up happy and healthy. And I'm able to be here to support them being the best that I can be. And we can find your book on Amazon and your website, crystalreikihealer.com. Thank you so much for coming on the show. This has been a joy. Oh, thank you so much, love. Such a blessing. Thank you to everybody who listened and please make sure to have some water to assist in grounding after your regular blessing. Excellent. So much for having me love. Yes. I end today's show with this quote from Nikola Tesla. If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. Subscribe to the Dare to Dream podcast so you can hear this weekly number one transformation conversation. My guest next week is world-renowned psychic, Robert Lindsay Milley, who will be taking listener questions and offering insight and guidance. 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