 All right. If you all are ready, let's go ahead and get started. It's only a 30-minute session, so I want to make sure we have time for discussion. I'm Beth Plaley. I am with the Research Data Alliance in the U.S. and I'm just going to give you a super brief update on how we are reviving the U.S., the RDA-U.S. for greater impact of the RDA within U.S., so I'm going to go through a few slides just for those people that may not be familiar with RDA, talk to a couple of the significant outputs of RDA, and then just launch into the programmatic activities that we're working on in the U.S. So RDA, for those of you who don't know, it's got about 10,000 members, 10,000-plus members from 145 countries, considers itself a neutral space, international neutral space where members come together to develop and adopt infrastructure that's human and technical infrastructure that promotes data sharing and data-driven research. You know, the why, what's the value proposition of RDA for libraries to interact with data professionals, researchers, technology professionals, academics, partner with experts, develop strategic collaborative relationships, engage in an advocacy institution-wide, and I would say broader advocacy process in an international forum, and of course anybody can do this, but adopting the recommendations to support the strategic aims of the libraries. So there's a greater experience and expertise, the RDA plenaries tend to have a range of engagement from researchers to technical people, to people running repositories, to librarians, it's quite a wonderfully diverse set of people who are focused on data management and open science, enhancing the quality, improving and access to that, and I will. So how can you engage? You can engage either individually or you can engage as an organizational member. So with respect to the, I was just pulling out a couple of the recommendations that are relatively recent that I think are germane just to give you a sense for what the products of the research data lines are, the research data lines is not a standards body, so it's not producing standards, it's producing what it is calling recommendations, however it is working on funding now to facilitate pathways to actual standards, adopted standards, we'll know more about that in a little bit. I think that's a very favorable development for the organization. RDA has been around for a decade now, and these recommendations, the recommendation process is valuable, but again, but that next step to actually having a bonafide standard I think is a welcome addition. So a couple of the big ones here, the RDA data management plan common standard for machine actual data management plans, and recently the fair principles for research software are a couple of the products that have come out in the form of these final recommendations. And if one looks at what the impact is, and this is obviously something that RDA US is trying to do is establish that impact more definitively, so this is somewhat cursory. So I guess take it with a grain of salt. But so EOSC, the Nordic version, which would be, and I think it's in probably Finland, adopted the machine actual data management plans, and basically then it tells a story about that adoption process, and they say, well, the lessons we've picked up from the adoption process is there's a real value in adopting as early as possible in the application profile, helps to identify missing features, and so on. And then also very recently there was a set of funders that form the Global Biodata Coalition in the United States. There's members from NIH for sure, NSF, there may be foundation members that are represented in the United States as well, put out this, a couple papers, one of them on open data strategies, couple of these consultation papers, they're currently open for comment right now, and one is on open data strategies and the other one is on sustainability. And in the paper on open data strategies, they mention the research data lines, actually they mention the research data lines a couple different times, and I know some of those conversations have taken place in the funders forum at the Research Data Alliance. In here too they talk about the data management plans as being a valuable tool in implementing funder policies, pointing out that their full potential has yet to be realized for either funders or researchers. It's recognized that ideally research groups would use DMPs as living documents which they develop as their research progresses. I actually endorse that one wholly. Through the research data lines there have been discussions over the potential benefits that could be gained for both funders and researchers from making DMPs machine readable and encouraging their publication. So in looking at this, again this is very, very recent because it's open for comments right now, this is something that motivates RDA, reenlivening RDA US as an entity that can realize some of the benefits of these conversations and some of the developments in the US, and this is certainly an area where I would like to see RDA's impact in the US be greater. So I'm going to go into RDA US. So for those of you that don't know me, I've been around for quite some time. I spent a few years, I'm at Indian University, I'm a faculty member there and have a head in an IT organization there as well. I was one of the founders of the RDA. There was a group of about a dozen of us, two of us from the United States and from different countries that kind of laid the groundwork for the organization. It's been a decade now. In the meantime I went to the National Science Foundation where I spent three years working on open science and had to step away from RDA significantly during that time because I was so heavily conflicted with it. That's now been a couple years ago and as I looked at where the RDA US was ten years on, it looked like it was faltering and it was. I mean the person that was putting a lot of attention into it had indicated she was Rebecca Cuskell that she was going to be stepping down and it felt like that there's still much that's undone and an international venue for these conversations can happen and where these consensus agreements can happen particularly if they can push into standards is extremely powerful. So I stepped in, I've got some resources I was able to put in to reenlivening RDA US. So that's why I wanted to kind of get this in front of you and just explain what we're trying to do with RDA US and offer it as an opportunity it's a small one but an opportunity to this community to envision impact in the United States through RDA US and we encourage that and welcome that. So we are, one thing I did do when I took it over I said we are focusing on US outcomes, we are not focused on the Americas, we are focused on US outcomes, this is the year of open science, this is the time to do it, we need to do it. So we are with RDA advancing research and education across our region and globally that that's what RDA and RDA US do. We are bringing the US a global perspective on the benefits and challenges of open science, we are focusing on the US and problems in the US. So how can this international body be used to further where we are in open science and the open science of scholarship in the US and then also how can we land our voice more fully into international affairs and I would also say how can RDA be more of a voice in the national conversation around open science and scholarship than it is right now and that's what we're trying to accomplish. So we've set up an organization, we've got program officers, it's an office that's kind of the workers in this, we've got a set of task force leads and we basically identified several people, we identified several areas in cyber infrastructure, open science and software and these are areas where we think RDA can have more, in the United States can have more impact than it does and we tasked significant senior people in each of these areas to help us with the kind of the penetration into these communities with respect to further developing the RDA US and the RDA impact in those communities. The task force leaders are part of the steering committee and the steering committee is slightly larger, it's a small steering committee in addition to that. I see Saeed here, Saeed is thankfully, thank you Saeed representing on the software task force. We've got a set of programs I'll talk a little bit about, again we just launched in October, so we are brand new, I will talk to you about the Tigris program, we also, which is a facilitation program, we also are working on training and early career experiences, a curated solutions bank which fortunately is leveraging some funding that Europe had where they're moving quickly on helping to kind of index and organize the outputs of RDA which are desperately desperately needed and then we've got a loyal community strengthening that community and making sure we don't lose it. So the program office task force leads and steering committee are all mentioned here, I'm sure many of you know Zach, Steven Diggs probably, Aaron Ellis, Indiana, Natalie you probably know, a number of people you probably know, Cynthia, Michael. So the Tigris program, it is basically, it's modeled off of a Tigris program. We did give permission to be the Tigris program. It's modeled off of a program that Europe is doing which is basically facilitating, we were talking at breakfast this morning, I was at the EDUCAUSE table and a research data management table and we were talking about you know when you've got volunteer activity and you're asked to do something and you've got all the commitment and passion to do it but yet you're a volunteer so and that there's a lot of work there and keeping the meetings going and getting the proposal, you know the proposal here in this case it's a proposal for a working group in, getting the products written and so that kind of stuff is something that the EDUCAUSE office can help with. So we facilitate the outputs or the recommendations of the outcomes from working groups and I'll show you a little diagram on what the different steps along the way are but we are focused on either working groups that have as their objective impacts that could benefit in the US, you know we can pick those up midstream and we're looking at a couple of those now and then we can also facilitate new working groups so we can help gathering the community around and then like say facilitating it through it's 12 to 18 month process and then we can help amplify the outputs of the working groups. So taking away some of that, that the burden of that kind of logistical work. So what does that look like? You start over there on the left hand side there's a need kind of an open science scholarship need that's that number one bullet. You engage with RDA US through the Tigris program. It helps shape the local need. It helps develop the critical mass it draws on so it engages the expertise of the RDA US community. We're establishing relationships with partner organizations so it will involve the representation of partner organizations and together we can help you shape what that proposal for that working group would look like and then and who might be involved in that and then it works through RDA global. So what we found in at least over time over the last decade is RDA is very heavily dominated by European participation. The European funding agencies have engaged fully in relying on RDA for certain outputs. So if we're going to get the outputs that we need basically what we need to do is front load the working groups with people so that we have the people there so that we can help shape the outcome as we need it. Otherwise it might get heavily dominated by other interests. So we wanna just kind of make sure that we're skewing things to the outcome that we want and we can help do that by drawing on the US community and part of what we're also doing with and talking with funders is to take that step beyond so that when that community does get engaged we can actually help send them to the annual plenary. One is virtual and there's two a year, one's virtual and one is in person. So recognizing that we can reduce the burden further that we're working on that. So this working group then works through the RDA global and here is where one of the unique advantages of the RDA is it is a global entity and it does have global representation and that's completely evident in these planaries. That international perspective is its superpower. So that encouraging that perspective is what gives the outcomes their strength. So the international perspectives are expected so that would be part of the working group, part of the discussions and then that over that period, the 12 to 18 month period that gets facilitated through the Tigers program and then after that now you've got, there's now a result that is targeted toward the US. It's been facilitated so it finishes on time and the result is as strong as possible and it's been informed globally and that I think is the optimal contribution at this point that we can make to making RDA US relevant. So I would say again, I'm just the space across which the organization is envisioning its contributions are through this Tigers program, through this curated solution bank, through the training and early career program and then through strengthening the RDA US community and that is our objective and my objective is to get this thing on stable, stable footing over the next couple of years and then turn it over to enthusiastic next generation people to lead. So I'm Beth Plaley again. Please reach out to me. We absolutely welcome your engagement with us. We are here to serve. So thank you. So questions. I was just in Taiwan, I would have had to have spoken a whole lot slower so I hope I didn't talk too fast. I was trying to run through this, all right. Hey Beth, David Elbert from Johns Hopkins. Really excited to see RDA US kind of engaging and doing a lot of stuff. As you know, I participate internationally and I think the way you articulated that superpower of getting that international collaboration is really brilliant. I'm wondering how you envision engaging, I don't know if I should use the term communities of practice because RDA has something they call communities of practice which is sort of formally defined. But as you know I work in the materials domain with what we've created on materials, research data alliance and there are others and sort of how you're gonna balance those two things without ending up competing for one of a better term. So yeah, so don't leave because I. Know where to go. Yeah, I will go, yeah. No, I welcome thoughts. I mean, it's clear that we're stronger together. I mean, and clearly that, yes. So I would turn this back to you. I've had some conversations say with Mary Goins of the World Data Service on what partnerships could look like, in terms of sharing credit, absolutely. Are there, I can certainly, so what I'm trying to do, and I was just talking with Cynthia to tell about responding to request for information and whatnot as an organization. So we have a single voice. So one of the obvious points of intersection is, we come together as a shared voice in making statements nationally and those have the power of cumulative kind of organizations making that voice. I think there's certainly power there. I would ask you, I mean what other forms of cooperative activity would be enhancing, with RDA US as a partner, if I can put you on the spot there? I mean, excuse me, I think there are plenty. I think that RDA in general has, you just see really different membership, right? Just like coming to CNI for me is very different than going to a materials research society type of meeting, right? And so I think that we're never gonna get all the material scientists to participate in something like RDA or RDA US. And so we've got our own organization to try to get deeper penetration there. We get membership there, but I think having people that bridge between those organizations remains really important. And so some of us in the materials world certainly participate in RDA internationally and those of us in the US now will be excited to participate in RDA US. And I'm less concerned about formally what that looks like because I think that as soon as we start talking we'll start developing outcomes that are headed towards the same goals, if not directly aligned in what we do. So I think it's really who we see in the room and I imagine RDA US, just like internationally will have more librarians and infrastructure service people and people with different kinds of approaches who need to talk with the domain people as well so we can bridge that. And what that raises, and I appreciate that, what that raises is what are the venues for those being in the same room where those happen? And we're conscious of the fact that RDA is the parent organization, so it's got its events and so are those events the right events to do something local or is doing something separate from that a better way to strengthen those ties? And it may be because the RDA does one virtual in one in person that you're only getting a 12 month, every 12 month experience to put something together in person, that may drive the decision, but thank you. I think that's important. Sure, we'll talk about it. Yeah, definitely, definitely stronger together, clearly stronger together. Thanks. Yeah, okay. Hi, thank you. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the training and early career programs and who the intended audience is it for information professionals or is it for a diverse group? Or are you trying to recruit from across different industry and sectors? Yeah, and thank you for that. And I should say, kind of our order of chugging through things was to get things kicked off and get the Tigers program set up, so we put less thought into, so we're kind of moving left to right in terms of how we're thinking about things, but just early thoughts there is RDA is unique in the assets that it has produced and I recognize for those of you that know RDA, you know, there's a lot of stuff there. So calling what's critical, I think is important in them putting that together. So I think there is a unique set of assets there and I also think there's a super unique opportunity to engage with the RDA community that one can do, that RDA US can do that others don't have the advantage of. So it can't take advantage of. So I think the thinking is really early here, but early career experiences coupled with training that draws on what RDA has done and obviously that isn't complete, but that's as far as we've gotten. So does that flow into existing programs, does it, and that we haven't, we would welcome conversation, let me put it this way, we would welcome conversations on what that might look like. So we're just, you know, and I guess I'm driven partly by our university, which I'm sure some of you are doing this, are hearing the same thing, but you know, student experiential learning is really important. So you know, when you've got something like this that could feed into unique experiences, how do you take advantage of that? And I think, and you know, because we've got this platform, the RDA platform, we could take advantage of that. Again, early, early thinking, we welcome conversations. Hi, Todd Carpenter, National Information Studies. Oh good, Todd, good, I wanna talk to you. Hi, how you doing? You're on my list. Long time participant and engagement in our RDA, and it's such a great organization and so pleased with the sort of reformulation of RDA US. Could you talk a little bit about the sustainability plans for RDA US? I mean, that's kind of one of the reasons that it fell down is how does it sustain itself? How does it, where is its resources coming from? It had been supported through a variety of grants over the years, which isn't a really good sustainable model. I'm wondering what sort of thinking is going on in terms of sustained funding. No, and Todd, thank you, and I, yes. And Todd is with Force 11 as a kind of a sister, important sister organization. So the, so one of the thoughts in organizing, RDA US, the way it's been organized is to give it a programmatic basis. Prior funding was really oriented, of which I was involved in, I was involved in the early grant, the first five-year grant, but they were oriented around, we're RDA US, we need funding, and that worked a couple of times and it stopped working. And it does. So orienting around programmatic activity that can be funded individually is how we're tackling the sustainability. That's that plus there's a certain amount of funding that I've committed to kind of deep, as kind of grounding funding to get us through the next couple of years as we build a stronger programmatic base. But it is very much oriented around scalable and fundable programmatic activity and adaptability when new programs are needed. And I think that's, you know, and I guess, I guess, you know, I believe in talking to funders is, you know, help us solve our problems. You know, and then again, I was at a federal agency, I get this, you know, help us solve our problems. So if you can be adaptive in solving a problem that a funder is facing, you're there, you know, and so I just think we're taking a completely different approach with respect to what we're providing here, so. Yeah, so we've got funding to, we've got funding to get this ramp, the starting ramp, and we've got well-defined programs that are certainly working in Europe. I think there's reason to believe, given where the landscape is, particularly with respect to training and around consensus and whatnot. I think we're well-positioned. Do we have any other remarks to make? Said, can I put you on the spot to say something? I'm gonna start calling people. Sure. So I'll try to actually incorporate some of the earlier comments. So my impression, Beth, you should tell me this is not correct, is RDA Global doesn't have a massive sort of budget and baseline of funding. It is largely volunteer driven, right? It is basically individuals stepping up and saying we're gonna work in these working groups and interest groups and so on. So to David's really good point, I'm putting on my hat for the software task force. The Cyber Resilience Act in the EU has profound implications in terms of how open source software collaboration happens, right? And there has not been a lot of discussion around what that means for US research universities working with their counterparts in the EU. We also have in the US, and again, I'm director of the OSPO, it's the Amuseful Disclosure, but a growing network of open source programs offices in US universities, which is somewhat unique. There are pockets of this in the rest of the world, but I think the US is really kind of getting out in front. So how does that network of OSPO's interface with the communities of practice? David mentioned with RDA US and then RDA through something like the Cyber Resilience Act. This has profound implications for all of us, right? And I think that this sort of interplay of these different organizations is exactly the right mix to see this together. So in addition to my role with RDA US, I'm motivated to solve this problem, period, right? It'll be very important for Carnegie Mellon and the university. So getting that energy behind RDA US, I think is gonna be a key part of the sustainability. And just to plus one, but what Beth said, we're very eager to hear about what would be useful for training and early career programs. Again, building on things that already exist, but if there are gaps, either by type of community or type of content, we'd love to hear more about it. Very, thank you, Said. I guess I think we're kind of running out of time. Maybe we'll go ahead. Quick, sorry, I didn't wanna turn this into a panel discussion. All of a sudden, we're all in the panel. But I like what Said said and I think that there's like, I don't wanna make it a pyramid scheme, right? But RDA classically has outcomes that are, to people in the domains feel like really high level sort of policy-ish kind of things that people don't know how to really implement. And so organizing those types of things in the domains, we need to learn from those things, not recreate everything, although people have to come to things in their own time. Sometimes you have to let them recreate a few things. But then figure out how to pick and choose. But it's very rare that in my experience that in the domains, people know what RDA is doing, know what Force 11 is doing, know what OSPOs are doing. We have new funding for an open science project at Hopkins and we had to go introduce ourselves to the folks in the OSPO office. That's kind of the way it works. So I think connecting those dots will always be a super critical thing to do. Great, all right, thank you. Excellent, this has been a fabulous discussion. Thank you so much for being here and please, again, I'm just my last name, playly, at IU.edu. Please, please do reach out, I'd love to talk more. Thank you.