 President Muhammadan Buhari has extort Nigerian women on the occasion of International Women's Day. Buhari observed that women are not where they should be yet in different spheres of endeavours, but believe that they could no longer be deprived for too long, as they have consistently proved that they could hold their own on all fronts and in all fields. According to Buhari, the celebration under the hashtag break the bias and the theme gender equality today for a sustainable tomorrow is an opportunity to reflect on the vital roles women play in society, homes, governance, their professions and in all walks of life. We are now being joined by a broadcaster, Loretha Chiyogo. Thank you for joining us, Loretha. Thank you, Banker. Okay, so my first question is what challenges have you faced as a female journalist slash broadcaster and how have you been able to tackle them? I think I must say kudos to us women, especially those of us in this sector of the equilibrium. We should say congratulations to ourselves for what we've been able to achieve so far. You know, it's one thing to think you can achieve success is another thing to put in the spinning wheels to ensure that you achieve it. Now, there are rules I set for myself over 20 years, you know, getting into this industry and I'll start from determination and determination birds focus, focus birds consistency and then consistency birds result. If anyone is caught up from this chain, there's no way you can be result oriented. Now, it takes somebody to be very determined for you to stay focused and it takes somebody who is focused to be consistent. When you're not consistent on what you're doing, it means you don't want to get results. Now, coming back to your question, which are the challenges that are faced personally, challenges of being a married woman, challenges of thinking that the male folk could do better than I do, challenges of the kind of mentality we have in this part of the world where the woman is looked at as the second fiddle end up in the kitchen or end up in the other room like we've once heard in this country. So, those are the kind of challenges that some of us face, but with my key rules, which is determination, focus, consistency, and then burden result, I've been able to overcome those challenges. And of course, the mentality that the woman cannot succeed in the midst of men is the kind of mentality we shouldn't be having this 21st century. Now, if you look at the theme of the International Women's Day for this year, it's quite compact. And I mean compact, it resounds in the ears of anyone who hears that to tell you that you don't have to be static. You have to make a move. You have to make a statement about your gender. Your gender is not a second fiddle. Does that mean you want to play the role of a man like we get to hear around here? No, that's not it. What you're aiming at is to also achieve the best you can for yourself as the female gender and of course, to also move ahead, if need be, of the male folk. So, challenges would always be there. But what kind of mentality do women carry over these challenges? Do they think the challenges can't be surmounted? This is the reason why I think the theme is really working for this year. We need to move. We need to sustain the drive. So, challenges shouldn't even stop us from doing what we need to do. It shouldn't stop us from making statements about our gender, about succeeding in different spheres of life. Okay, thank you very much, Loretta. So, now we are being joined by Blessing Aso. She is a journalist, joined us from Ademawah. Thank you very much Blessing for joining us today. And to talk about Blessing, Blessing, Blessing, please hold a bit before you come on. I was, I was watching a video of Blessing on Facebook this morning and she had a tripod she was going to for a shoot and she had a tripod in her husband's hand and I was wondering what went wrong? You know, these are the kind of things that, you know, boost the moral of a woman, especially when you're married and you're in this kind of industry. So, the man, you know, not that he doesn't have his own field of work, not that he doesn't have his own job, but it just coincided that he's around now that we're celebrating the International Women's Day and so, it gave me so much pleasure to watch and that is why we have Blessing. Thank you very much. That was the question I was going to ask. That's right. Thank you very much Blessing for joining us. Thank you, thank you. Okay, I want, I will start with this question. In what ways can men, book our colleagues and family members, get involved in helping us fight for gender equality? Well, I already can see. What do you answer, okay? Knowledge. Let's now leave my, and I think that I've got my confidence to help me become a more professional. He helped us with that. And then, for now, you can try and fix the network challenges. So, Lauretha, what do you think? How can our male colleagues and family members help us fight for gender equality? Support. Support and support. That's the word. That's the only way you can boost the morale of a lady who already has a mentality that the male folk know they have to take the lead. That's the only way because when the male folk thinks the woman cannot achieve what they achieve, then you're killing that woman gradually. You're killing that woman's mentality. Look at what's happening with the gender bills. You can see the way people are coming out to say, no, this shouldn't be for the woman. Why should the gender bills be rejected? You have to be like a witch or something because I was going to ask that question also. So, because it concerns me. It concerns my gender. So why should the gender bills be rejected if we don't have something fishy? As you know, the House of Representatives, they have rescinded the decision. How do you feel about that? Great, great. But should we have gone that route? We shouldn't have gone that route if we didn't want chaos, if we didn't want people to start screaming over the head of the National Assembly or the House of Representatives, so to speak. But do you think that we'll have a positive answer when they eventually reconsider the bill? I believe we should, with the kind of statements coming out from various quarters over the initial gender bills that were rejected. We should have something suitable and sustainable for the women to say, okay, here we are. We can be part of this process. We can be part of nation building because of course we are part of nation building whether we like it or not. You're building your nation by doing this. I'm building my nation by doing what I do. So we are part of it and we need that drive. We need that support from the male folks and not just the male folks. I've heard situations where the women, even the ones against themselves, so the women think, look, you can go further than I do and then you come back to ground zero. So I think it's time for the women to get organized, get together, support each other, move together and then make it work. Nothing should stand as a challenge. When the challenges come, then we can surmount with the amount of determination and focus and consistency that we have then we can bear the results. Okay, so this year's International Women's Day theme is breaking the bias. How do you think that we can break the bias in your industry? In breaking the bias, women should be given more top positions. They should be given, they should be challenged. They should be allowed to take, to play roles of leadership. They should be allowed to invest. Invest in this sense means invest in what they already have in education. Yes, they should be allowed. Yeah, but you know, every time I have this conversation with let's say a member of the opposite sex, they always say women are too emotional and they will bring emotions into the job and maybe hence spoil it or something. And that is why I said to you initially, let there be support. And the woman should also discard the mentality of I can't do it, just this is for the men to do. And personally, I don't like saying around women who think they cannot do stuff because that's the beginning of that poor mentality that would drive the woman down and downward and downward. And so it would take time for such a woman to realize that she's got lots of potentials to put out there for the public to see, lots of potential to impart a generation, lots of potentials to drive nation building. So if a woman, if the male folks feel the women are just too emotional, the women should then turn it around, turn the message around immediately. You turn the message around by doing what people thought you couldn't do. That's the only way and it takes determination to do this. If you're not determined to turn around the message, you'd stay where you are. Okay, thank you very much Loretha for joining us. Thank you, bye. Loretha is a broadcaster.