 Next question is from Colton Marshall. What supplements should not be taken together? You know what okay, so I know the question is like basically do they negate like what supplements negate each other's effects? Well, okay, I'll start with that if you're taking an amino acid Specifically to let's say increase nitric oxide, right? Then you probably don't want to take it with protein or with a lot of amino acids because now it kind of loses its effect So like if I take citrulline for example by itself pre-workout to boost nitric oxide But I take it citrulline and protein powder now I've got all these amino acids a lot of them are competing and it's not going to produce You know those kind of facts wouldn't you say the same thing goes for if you're taking Protein powder and then a branched chain amino acid waste the time unless your protein intake is low in which case spiking branched Branched chain amino acids make sense But yeah, I think generally speaking branched amino acids are a waste of money again unless your protein intake is below that high amount Now here's what you really should pay attention to and this is what I this is the lesson that I've learned probably a handful of times What you don't want to do is combine supplements that Augment each other because sometimes one plus one equals five and what I mean by that is like if I combine Caffeine and caffeine like if I take a hundred milligrams caffeine a hundred milligrams caffeine Then the effect I'm gonna get is 200 milligrams caffeine That doesn't always work with stimulants sometimes you take a hundred milligrams caffeine and a little bit of ephedra or Yo hembi or sinifrin and it's not like that They amplify each other and you get this kind of dangerous runaway, you know stimulant effect So that would be the big thing I would say pay attention to don't combine stimulants unless you really know what you're doing because The additive effects can be kind of nasty and a bit, you know dangerous What about some of these supplements that are labeled as a fat burner and then a muscle builder? Oh I hear what you're saying On a calorie surplus, right? I just I imagine that that's where this question is probably coming from I doubt it's down to the Individual chemical level where you're going and it's probably more generic like could I take a muscle builder supplement and a fat loss? Supplement at the same time that seems like a more common question that you would yeah What's funny about that is the their muscle builder fat loss supplements. Do they compete with each other not really? But your diet and your training or what make the biggest difference you take all the fat burners you want you're in a calorie surplus It's good to complete Waste of time, you know the thing that's really interesting the same goes for a muscle bill You could be taking all the muscle bill or something as you want But if you're in a caloric deficit, you can have a hell of a time totally and it can happen You know what you know what what this makes me think of is and this is the supplement industry is really good at this is Any they still do this They'll be like a supplement that's like for the pump or for muscle building or for libido or for sleep And you'll turn around the label and it has everything you've ever read about that's supposed to help for that particular thing And you'll look at it and be like oh, this is for sleep And they'd be like tryptophan Melatonin Theanine Gabba and you're like oh this has everything that means it must be more effective What typically what's typically happening there is that none of those things have efficacious doses They just have a tiny bit of everything in there To get or they'll have efficacious dose of one thing like three milligrams of melatonin and everything else is like this tiny amount Yeah, so you know what you want to do is you want to look at efficacious doses the right form and then that's the thing you pay attention to not just whether or not it's listed like I remember in the 90s there was a supplement called hot stuff and It was popular because Said nice and probably loaded in it. So that made you sweat your balls off So you thought I was working. Hello good. It's set on it and had everything in it I remember that that was like super but that was like one of those hacks Right they would they would load it up with niacin and then everything else was pixie dust and but you thought it work Cuz you're like, oh my god, my skin's red. I'm just sitting here and my armpits are sweating right now I've done anything this stuff is really working Yeah, with a kicker with supplements pre-workout the pre-workout space figure this out If we could put something in there the person can feel yeah, even if it doesn't do anything for the goal Long as they could feel it. We're gonna sell a lot. So beta alanine although. There's some benefit It makes your skin tingle so that kind of makes it feel like it's our itchy something's working By the way, you know, they I wouldn't be surprised if they borrowed that from other markets like toothpaste and shampoo Oh, definitely shampoo. I mean all those like dandruff commercials like I can tangle. It's working Yeah, or do you know that the fact that you know, it's crazy is I'm aware of that And it still works on me. Of course like I still I want my toothpaste to foam up I want my head to feel tingly where I used to want my head to feel Wash my hair not so much anymore But it's even though I know that I know the science behind it that that's all that is all for them to make just to Make you feel like it's working. It's more effective But how crazy the psychology of that it's I know it and yet I still want it Do you want lessons still works for me? Would you want to use soap that didn't lather like what if it just like Right, and then you're interested right and that's it That's another example that which by the way when you do some of this like organic all-natural soap You'll notice it doesn't lather up the same and so you feel like you're like God I've been scrubbing my arm for like three minutes now. It's not lathering up You know, what's a good I'll tell you what a good good interesting combinations Here's a good a classic example Theanine is an amino acid that's been shown to cause a calming effect in the body right caffeine is a Stimulant I love that together when you introduced us. Well now you you think to yourself well That would be counteracting but what happens is the theanine actually reduces the negative effects of caffeine But doesn't take away the energy producing effects. So what you get from it is this really smooth You know focus that just feels like the high without less jittery. Yeah, yes You can do this with ashwagandha. Does that really well with caffeine? Or you get this nice smooth energy some supplement companies seem to be jumping on this kind of figuring this out But yeah, you don't want to again when you stack supplements that all do the same thing Sometimes you get more than negative and not more of the positive So that's what I'd say and I think the biggest takeaway is the nutrition piece Right like as most people that are probably asking this question I think go back to the fat loss muscle building thing and the thing that's gonna make the biggest difference on whether the It's the supplement is effective is actually where you're at calorically because if you're taking a supplement to build muscle But you're constantly in a caloric deficit You're not gonna build any muscle the same thing goes for what Justin was saying about the fat burning If your goal is to take fat burner supplements, but you're eating in a 500 to 1,000 calorie surplus every day That supplement is gonna burn any fat doing anything You like the information in this clip you guys are gonna love the information in this full episode Make sure you subscribe and check it out