 Full of contradictions. So later on she denies the fact that there is such race Which again is the kind of kind of stuff that their left does all the time They they they take the marble high ground. Oh, there's no such thing as race, but There is such a but I'm white and you're black and you're green and you know, you know, whatever, right? So they take something that they believe doesn't exist and then they attribute to it massive significance They are so dishonest in that sense So creepily dishonest in that sense and then she says It took me a long time to figure out that this is important and It's uncomfortable because race is something we attribute to them, but we treat ourselves as individuals now There's a certain truth to that. There's a certain group among Americans. There's certain group call them white racists Who think of themselves as individuals and many of them Fly the banner of Capitalism and individual rights, but they consider anybody who looks different thing from them as Inferior So they view race as belonging to somebody else and of course in in more recent times what's happened is That group is now self-identified With their own race, which is white and I don't see much difference between her Who is going to be apologetic about the fact that she's white and the white supremacists? The fundamental difference between the fundamental sameness between all of them Is the importance they place on the color of their skin is the importance they place on so-called race the importance they place on the group to which they belong the fact that they do not cannot will not Identify as individuals and not only identify themselves as individuals, but identify others as individuals So what all this is is? collectivism on steroids and Everything the whole frame of mind the whole way she thinks about These issues You'll notice is purely collectivist There is no individual There is no individual mind. There are no individual choices All there is is the group the group you belong to and the other group the group you do not belong to Now the modern view of race racism is that only the dominant view Only sorry, I need the dominant race and I put race in quotes because I don't believe there is such a thing can be racist That the oppressed group cannot be racist But that is a perversion of the concept The concept of racism applies to anybody oppressed or oppressed sore Who treats people views people as member of a race rather than as individuals? That's what racism means And it goes in all directions All right So notice that she's white. She's in a sense. It's important to her. She's white and there's some baggage that comes with being white Which she's gonna get into It's just a white bread a Heinz 57. I didn't have race I was socialized to see race as individual acts of discrimination and prejudice Which is actually what racism is but notice too There's no free will in her story And and and she's not a what she does is combine two aspects of determinism She is a Gene determinist that's her racism. That's her whiteness. Although she rejects that later More importantly, she is a social determinist She constantly talks about I was socialized to I was socialized to Every idea she had in her head. She was socialized to Nothing was her conclusion. Everything was how she was socialized and She attributes that to all of us. You will see all of us have been socialized to View the world in a particular way if you race in a particular way and for example, one of the things we socialized to God forbid is The view of colorblindness the view that color doesn't matter. We were socialized to View ourselves as individuals and not member of this collective That's not a positive in her mind. That is a negative That we were socialized to that Individual acts that anybody could do to anybody else and if you did those acts you were a bad person Oh, that is true. What's wrong with that? And that is why since I saw myself as a good person. I didn't see myself as connected to racism And certainly didn't see myself as connected to race in other words I didn't have a sense of a racial identity today I and that's good by the way, that's that's the way you should have stayed But she she's got a duct in front of her names. I assume she got a PhD my guess is that's where she got corrupted While going to school while being socialized into academia That's where these bogus notions of race Were Implanted she adopted them right by choice. She has free will Stand that I move through the world always and most particularly as a white person I have a white frame of reference and I have a white experience So you move through the world as a white person with a white frame of reference and white experience and Try to turn her volume down. Tell me if that worked and tell me if it's too much Wow again She experiences the world Not as an individual But as a white person, what does that mean does she experience the world the same as I do because I happen I have the same skin color and let's abstract away the fact that I'm Who genetically supposedly whatever it means Jewish? I don't know if that differentiates us or not The angel is she's not Jewish so She experiences the world Weird and part of being white is to have that be invisible to us and to be able to live our lives without ever Acknowledging that to see that as non-operative. I now understand racism as a system as a deeply embedded System a system that our country was founded on and that all our institutions were created out of Now notice This is a gimmick a trick that they play on us model judgment can only be placed Could fundamentally on an individual You can place model judgment on a system The system of slavery is a model but fundamentally The actions taken by individuals are moral or immoral and the system is a system created by individuals and the system is A system upheld by individuals and a system in a sense is the cumulative actions of individuals You can't have a racist system if individuals are not racist for example Notice also, she believes the country was founded on a system of racism ignore 90% of what America represents ignore the Declaration of Independence ignore what was written down The fact of slavery is the dominant fact. It's the only fact that's relevant for these people It makes nothing else matters The fact that the Declaration of Independence indeed lays the foundation for the elimination of slavery the elimination of racism in the end It under underpinning the declaration is the morality of individualism, which rejects racism ignore that they were created a government of a government of of Checks and balances and and that protects individual rights again the Constitution which lays the foundation for the Elimination of slavery and ultimately the elimination of all racism institutionalized racism All of that is ignored Basically, she takes and I'm sure she's been involved in this in the New York Times 1619 project which basically says The defining characteristic of America indeed the only thing that really matters about America is racism America was established to protect racism To protect slavery The Declaration and Constitution are just pretenses At some kind of universal rights of man. They didn't care they didn't matter what mattered was that that that the founding preserved slavery That even when we fought a civil war to eliminate slavery we maintained Jim Crow and even when we got rid of Jim Crow we continue to have Institutionalized racism and indeed the argument is that by being white we have no choice Even if we are immigrants to this country We have no choice by being part but to be part of a system of institutionalized racism against Black Americans. I mean it is such a perversion of history first slavery has been a part of them human race Forever it's in the Old Testament Jews have slaves Jews are slaves in Egypt, right? And then Jews have slaves Everybody has slaves Romans had slaves The Greeks had slaves Now I'm not justifying slavery. I'm just saying it's been a feature of human existence for ever and then in a miraculous period of Some I don't know 60-70 years Slavery basically is outlawed is Deemed morally reprehensible and is banned from human society and It all happens it all happens within a few decades of The writing of the Declaration of Independence Inspired by and you can see it in all of the people who fought For getting rid of slavery whether here in England in other places Inspired by the idea of all men are created equal in the Declaration inspired by the idea of Individual rights and illegal individual rights, which you all have Because we're human. I mean it's it's To not see the cause of relationship Between the founding of the United States of America and the elimination of slavery now. This is not to excuse The fact that there was slavery in America. This is not to excuse the founding fathers who had slaves They should be morally condemned for that But at the same time not to see that it was them Their words their ideas their philosophies their teachings their writings That made the elimination of slavery ultimately possible in England, which not just banned slavery For themselves were banned the slave trade And then ultimately in the United States By Lincoln and through a civil war is just not to understand history It's not to understand anything about human beings It's to view everything through one prism a Racist prism. I mean the real ugly truth is that the Defenders of racism today the the people who propagate racism today are Leftist intellectuals and our universities. They are the equivalent of The intellectuals of the South who defended slavery at the time So today they're not defending slavery, but they are defending racism. This is not to deny That white racism against blacks Has been around for forever In this country It's not to deny the evil of slavery. It's not to deny the evil of Jim Crow It's not to deny the evil of individual acts of racism And it's certainly not to deny the systemic racism that existed before the civil rights Before the 1960s where in the law You had racist policies, but you don't justify laws To discriminate against somebody would happen to have a white skin. You don't justify that history does not justify racism You don't fix an evil by creating an evil fact That you're poor you're suffering That you are being discriminated against that you're at a disadvantage does not does not Justify your racism I ran wrote in in in an essay called the age of envy in the return of the primitive she wrote Today racism is regarded as a crime if practiced by a majority But as an inalienable way to practice by a minority The notion of one's culture is superior to all others solely because it represents the traditions of one's ancestors is regarded as a chauvinism if claimed by a majority But as ethnic pride if claimed by a minority So I know and reject racism in every direction by any individual or group But what the left today does is it places? virtue morality identity in one's race and In doing so It is the most racist movement today in America and I think much of the white racism that exists today And I think it's rising and I think it's increasing and I think it's becoming very very dangerous Some of it has always been in America and some of it now has become a response to the intellectuals of the left the response to identity politics that's reflected by people like Robin the Angelo Okay, let's keep listening And every institution reinforces the system Every institution reinforces the system Like what what institutions Like give us an example Like how do universities reinforce the system given given affirmative action Given what is being taught in the humanities Doesn't this institution Indeed reinforce your point of view. Is it your point of view now dominant at the universities? Then why is the system still in existence? If you are running the system Does this exist in every workplace in America? It these broad generalizations without examples. I'm not gonna let her talk I'm gonna comment on what she says. You can all go listen to her video and watch the whole thing straight and enjoy I'm here to comment on her stuff and I'm gonna expect to comment five minutes on every minute she has because you know She's got the floor and this is my one opportunity to go at her If you ever want to organize a debate between me and hope love to do it And it's a system of unequal power. So let me give you an example Women in the united states got the right to vote in 1920 And there was only one possible way that we could have gotten the right to vote And that was for men to give it to us Because we literally were not sitting in the seats of institutional power We could not give ourselves the right to vote that doesn't mean that we couldn't have personal power But we didn't have institutional power and that's the difference between a system and individual acts So what does that even mean? So it's true The woman cannot get the right to vote until Men who had the right to vote could vote for them to have the right to vote And that's again a tragedy of the declaration of independence and Of the starting of the country that women didn't have the right to vote But again, there's a history there women have not had a right to vote anywhere And america was one of the first countries to allow women to vote and give them right to property And and and not give them the right to property recognize their right to property and recognize the fact that they are equal to men from a rights perspective That was an achievement And the system was geared against women before that, okay What is the equivalent of that? Clearly slavery was systemic racism Clearly jim crow laws were systemic racism clearly laws that didn't allow women to vote were systemic Now what now what? Prior to women's suffrage, I could certainly discriminate against men. I could be unfair to individual men But my group could not systematically deny men as a group the right to vote And men controlled all the institutions and they all worked together to convey the message that women's place was here And men's place was there and then it changed the difference between individual prejudice and a system of inequality Know how she switches here And and she does this all the time And we'll see if I can catch her every time she does it a system of prejudice and a system of inequality What kind of inequality? They never define their terms They never define their terms Inequality what kind of inequality economic inequality Or political inequality political inequality is bad political inequality is usually a reflection of racism or prejudice But is that what she's talking about? Or something else Also note that yes, men could stop women from having to vote, but how did that change? It changed because individual men changed their minds individual women fought for it individual women got together In organizations and lobbied and fought and argued and debated and wrote and spoke and convinced men Some men not all men to change their minds And they did change their minds because individuals Have free will individuals can think of themselves individuals can change their minds It wasn't the group suddenly Got the revelation that women should have to vote It was hard fought And lots of individual minds needed to be changed, but in who university individual doesn't exist It's just groups. It's just gangs. It's just tribes men black white women black white And of course there are all kinds of relationships of power between them, which is the whole intersectionality Story, which I've done shows on in the past and probably will have to do shows on in the future Because it doesn't look like it's going away So in this field we think about oppression or in this case racism As group prejudice backed by institutional power Group prejudice back by institutional power That's what racism is. No, that's not what racism is But that is a manifestation can be a manifestation of racism The question is what is a group? Who is the group? I assume whites and what is the institutional power they have Where does that institutional power manifest herself? So we'll see the example she uses And so prior to the civil rights movement It was fairly socially acceptable for white people to just come out and say we are superior My father certainly was comfortable saying that the great joke of archie bunker and all of the family was that he wasn't up with the times And he was still saying Things that conveyed this idea But post civil rights it became bad to be racist, right? It became unacceptable to be racist It's not a good thing. You think that would be something to be celebrated And that seems like a positive thing right racism is bad But unfortunately what it morphed into is to make it impossible For white people to look at racism because what we hear is I would have to be a bad person in order to perpetuate racism It became a moral issue. Isn't it a moral issue? Isn't racism a moral issue? Isn't to be a racist and to perpetuate racism and to be involved in the perpetuation of racism a bad thing But she's going to say no, she's going to say you're part of a racist system even though you individually are not racist And you have to recognize that And so it doesn't put moral blame on you as an individual It puts moral blame on the system While freeing the individuals from moral blame Which is very dangerous You're not at fault. It's just a system That is at fault In addition to years of reflection and study of my own racial identity and she needed years of reflection and study to figure out her own racial identity I mean, it's it's truly spooky language Really spooky racist language Shapes my life and my experience and my perspectives I've had the very rare opportunity to for a living day in and day out Lead primarily white groups of people in discussions of race and racism And there are some very very predictable patterns That come up in these conversations and as I listen to these it's almost like a script Right that like it's almost as if as white folks were we just pick up this script and we say the same things again and again That's why folks that's why folks were all the same We all say the same stuff. We have the same script because we've been Socialized in the same way And as a sociologist rather than seeing something that's patterned as meaning therefore it's true I look at something patterned as as very revealing of how we get socialized to see things and to see the world And then the next question that follows that is and so how does that function? Right and when we look around us we can see that although we have Changes since the civil rights movement and we have this idea of racism being bad We still have the same unequal outcomes by race So now it's unequal outcomes by race Now it's not equality before the law Now it's not Discrimination it's not legal discrimination it's unequal outcomes by race now you know the whole idea of Equality of outcome is a very dangerous very very dangerous idea Now there is a good question of if you see whole groups That are fundamentally different and the outcome is fundamentally different then it's legitimate to ask the question of What's going on? right, but it's not It's not clear right so While it's true that blacks as a group Do worse economically than whites And there's certain historical reasons for that That have to do with accumulation of wealth or regenerations that they didn't get an opportunity to do because of Institutionalized racism before the civil rights It's also true that some blacks are very successful Very successful in academia in business In every in every aspect Lawyers doctor in everything right they're just as successful as anybody else But again individuals don't matter what matters is these group things And the only explanation that is possible for this inequality is racism But not the racism of you discriminating against somebody Institutional racism The system is racism The system somehow is holding them down and I did a whole thing on systemic racism. You can find that in my in my Videos from about a week ago two weeks ago Every measure we have racial inequality So how do we have such different narratives than we had prior to the civil rights movement and still have unequal outcomes Because it would be bizarre if you had equal outcomes particularly given the the unequal history Even if you had complete lack of capitalism, which we don't of course Even if you didn't have all the things holding back the black community like welfare like minimum wage like licensing laws like the war on drugs like everything else You still wouldn't have equality and equality doesn't matter what matters is individuals Have maximizing the opportunities And then it's a question of whether they take advantage of those opportunities And that also has to be asked Are people taking advantage of the opportunities that they live in a culture which encourages Taking opportunities and succeeding And as I listen to white folks my group Repeat these narratives over and over I got this image of a dock like a pier And it's just floating on the water and that's all the superficial things that we say And you probably recognize some of these you hear them. Maybe you've said them yourself I don't see color. I was taught to treat everybody the same I don't care if you're pink blue purple polka dotted. My parents weren't racist That's why I'm not racist or my parents were racist. That's why I'm not racist It doesn't really matter what goes in front of it. How are those superficial? I don't see race. I don't care about race all that which is what all of those represent That is deep That's a huge achievement But that's who is unreal because it doesn't conform With her priors the prior is The prior the shapes of thinking is There's racism everywhere the inequality that we see around us is a consequence of racism There is no other explanation for it Therefore everything people is saying Is meaningless It's just the disguise It's not real There's always I'm not racist. I know people of color. I used to work in the military All of the things we say to rationalize That we ourselves are not complicit in this system And I want to speak to two of these before I kind of take us below the surface of the dock And one is this idea that our parents taught us to treat everyone the same And I am just going to put it out there like this. No, they didn't That is not humanly possible. Human beings are not objective You cannot be taught to treat or to see everyone the same And when you say that you're indicating that you don't understand how socialization works Which is actually a positive thing in the sense that that can direct What you would need to focus on if you want to get deeper understanding The other one I want to speak to is this common trope of I don't care if you're pink, purple, polka dotted If that's in your vocabulary, I would urge you to please drop it and never say it again Although it isn't intentional. It's actually very demeaning People don't come in those colors and what it conveys is that you're not prepared to engage with authenticity In other words, you're not willing to engage in the fact that you are racist You're not willing to engage in the fact that you are inherently racist No matter what you actually do And that's why I have this image of a doc, right? That's very superficial surface And for me in trying to understand how all this works What it means to be white And live so separate by race even though I have was taught to see myself individually as Open-minded and outside of all she says her parents were pretty good Although she said her father was a racist So that's kind of interesting. Her father was a racist but she was taught to be open-minded and view yourself as an individual And now view other people based on the race. What happened to you? You you sounds like you got a decent education. I think what happened to her. She got a phd I've had to go under the surface And that's why I have this image here now of under the water You see the peer the pillars or posts that prop up the surface okay so For example, it's very common in in discussions of race to have white people Tell you about all the people of color in their lives, right? Oh, I have these co-workers or my best friend or my second cousin married a black man or All of the ways that we want everyone to know that we have relationships with people of color Okay, and so we're giving you evidence Right when someone gives you tells you that they're giving you evidence And so what are they giving you evidence of they're giving you evidence That because they love people of color know and love people of color They can't be racist, which means they see racism as conscious dislike or What else is it? It's conscious dislike. It's conscious discrimination That's what racism is So if you have friends if you have loved ones who have a different race, you're probably not a racist But that again doesn't fit her price explicit bias or hatred, right? And they're they're communicating to you that they don't have conscious dislike or hatred As evidenced by all of these people in their lives And what we don't understand is the power of implicit bias most bias is unconscious Most bias is unconscious because we're not in control of our own lives We're not in control of the decisions that we make now. Let's say that is true. Let's say there is significant unconscious bias But when you make a decision You make it consciously So you can ignore the unconscious bias Now maybe when you're making very quick decisions, you can't but most important decisions we make in life are not quick decisions They're thoughtful We weigh the evidence. We look at facts. We use reason and when we allow when we notice racist ideas coming into our thinking We can easily suppress those reject them as irrational and move on So even if you have unconscious biases, you are not a racist Even if you have unconscious biases, if you don't act on them, if you don't allow them to corrupt your thinking Your actions Then you are not a racist But again, to some extent for her Everything about us is unconscious Because we are deterministic beings We're determined by our environment by our socialization. We're determined by our implicit biases And you see you can't win with these people because even if you act 100 non-racist even if you have act every single day of your life as a good rational human being Even if consciously you reject the idea of race as irrational and silly silly as a man made Mechanism to feel superior to others. That's why racism the whole idea of race came into existence You're still not a good person. You're still not. Well, you're still not free of racism because you've got those implicit biases And those you know what you can't really get rid of those So you're always going to be a racist And that makes it very very dangerous because it drives our behaviors But we're not aware of it. So you're not aware of the behaviors. You're not aware what drives your behaviors You're not a thinking being you're not a reasoning being you're not a choosing being you're just a being that is driven by a subconscious Yes, it's wonderful to have people of color in your life. If you're white many many many people white people don't have people of color And that is so disgusting. Yes, it's wonderful that you have people of non-color in your life Who the hell does she think she is? It's so potentious and aloof and superior It's Relationships, but that doesn't mean your life is free of racism. That doesn't mean you don't have a white experience or a white perspective No, but you're the one who says you have a white experience and a white perspective You are the racist now. She's going to admit to being a racist in a minute So it's not going to become a shock to her, but she is the racist And it also what we need today what I call the new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think Meaning any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason By the intellect not by feelings wishes women's or mystic revelations Any man or woman who values his life? And who does not want to give in to today's cult of despair cynicism and impotence And does not intend to give up the world to the dark ages and to the role of the collectivist Using the super chat and I noticed yesterday when I appealed For support for the show many of you step forward and actually Supported the show for the first time. So I'll do it again. 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