 So I wanted to ask you this kind of goes beyond you know the documentary and the duration of time where you filmed We have a turnover in government Gretchen Whitmore is now the governor Rick Snyder is out in terms of accountability in terms of People going to jail in terms of actually getting this fixed What are we looking at? Is there any hope or is it still people dragging their feet bureaucracy kind of Slowing things down. What is your sense in that regard? You know, obviously it it's not moving as quickly as I think it should Like I said and like I think you're pointing out. This is still a crisis. I mean, it's not like it's gotten better I mean, maybe the maybe the numbers are fine if they test the right way Maybe they'll find the numbers are fine But I could tell you people don't usually get rashes five years later and and and hair loss And if the water is just dandy and I've anecdotally I've tasted the water in a few places It tastes like dog piss. So I I could tell you governor Gretchen Whitmare optically is way better than Governor Snyder. She has come to Flint including last week. She did a panel with residents about regaining trust She actually during that panel confirmed our reporting sheets. Somebody asked her about the water testing. She said Oh, you know, there's been reports about running the water She has not Publicly said anything as far as there needs to be an investigation about this She has not publicly said anything about there needs it needs to be looked in as far as the ex-governor I think this is a bit of Barack Obama syndrome where he said we don't want to look backwards as far as Bush and His officials we want to look forward There could be a lot of reasons for that political reasons So in the nitty gritty optically she's better. She's she's visited Flint. She's talking to Flint residents But nitty gritty, I mean, there's still a lot of pipes that need to be replaced and not to get too in the weeds What a lot of people don't realize and the media because they're all lazy and not that bright It's not just the service lines. So your audience knows the service lines are the water pipes from the curb into the house They're only changing those. They're not touching residents interior plumbing and a lot of the problem It's not like okay. Jesus could bless the water if you believe in Jesus He could bless the water anew it goes through brand new pipes that are not lead But if it's going into busted interior pipes, there's still chance for lead and other heavy metals to come off those pipes So they're not touching the interior plumbing because by law The interior plumbing is the homeowners responsibility. Well, the homeowners did not change from Detroit's water to the Flint River The homeowners didn't forget to add the proper corrosion control chemicals So they're not touching the interior plumbing and I think that's a major thing They could and this the only reason they're changing the service lines is because of a lawsuit from ACLU and residents of this and that that got a lot of money towards service line replacement So I think one thing I want to I don't know if it came across in the documentary, but if this happened Anywhere in Manhattan if this happened anywhere in DC Probably even Portland Would have been fixed pretty quick. Yeah Even in Michigan, they found high levels of PFAS which are cancer-causing chemicals that they're finding actually a lot more all over the country They're they're chemicals made from the manufacturing of things like Teflon Governor's night that it was happening in cities in Michigan that are a lot more white More middle-class There was free water going in there right away and action right away So I don't really bother with environmental racism. This is just racism. Yeah, you know, Flint is predominantly Black there's but it's also as Bernie always talks about and gets criticized for it's also a class issue Because there's a hell of a lot of poor white people in Flint too And and the last thing is what I hope the documentary shows because we tried to show the history of how things got so Impoverished in Flint and how things got so bad Things like a water crisis don't happen in a vacuum it the reason it happens is because there is a controlled demolition of What once was the middle-class Flint for people that know, you know Economic history Flint was called vehicle city Flint was at one time had some of the best schools in the country had the middle-class had auto workers from General Motors They used to have over a hundred thousand auto workers in Flint from General Motors and other cities, but When you start, you know, trade selling off jobs to China and Mexico Racist rezoning laws white flight When you know for in the in the in the spirit of economic development the private all these privatization schemes The Flint water crisis the media never covered this way. It was really a privatization scheme Yeah, they were they were temporarily temporarily switching to the Flint River While they were building a privatized water pipeline and when they switched to the Flint River the environmental the Department of Environmental Quality actually broke the law by law You're supposed to add corrosion control chemicals into the water for the exact reason so old pipes Because our government has not changed the pipes in over 60 years all over America Don't corro don't leech lead so I want people to understand this happened It happened because governor Snyder appointed an unelected emergency manager that was essentially a proxy for him The emergency manager decided we're gonna we're gonna switch from the Detroit water system Which never had a problem for Flint Flint purchased its water from Detroit system to the Flint River Which I don't know about Portland, but they go like the Hudson River and in New York. I mean this is like You know General Motors had dumped its parts in there for over a century You know you had in some cases dead bodies rolling around so I hope people watch the documentary and I also people I hope people realize that Independent media is critically important So we were able to do it and knock on the doors because our viewers funded us we're growing But like fund independent media whether it's us whether it's Mike whether whether it's whomever, you know some people you know expose things from a studio setup some people expose things from You know knocking on doors, whatever it is We're all trying to expose what the corporate media and frankly the politicians are covering up So I hope people realize that if they watch the documentary, which I hope they do This is this is happening in more places than Flint And the only read the only way that you light an inferno under politicians behinds to make them do something It's to wake more people up because I guarantee you there's Republicans who will see this documentary that will be pissed