 Presidency backs Bahá'í and says he has delivered promises made to Nigerians. And the Nigerian Senate asks the United Kingdom government to pardon Ike Kuramadu in organ trafficking case. This is Plus Politics and I am Mary Anacorn. The presidency said yesterday that it was mischievous to paint a bleak pessimistic and frequently inaccurate picture of the state of the nation and the outgoing President Mohammed Buhari's leadership. A statement by the senior special assistant to the president on media and publicity, Garba Shehu, said in the post-election period of heightened tension and disinformation, he saw it fit to set the record straight. According to him, those who said President Buhari inherited an economy in disarray were right. And Nigeria had become an international terror cell where Burkha Haram controlled the size of Belgium within the country's borders. He also added that external reserves had maintained a healthy growth throughout these eight years and within two years of the Buhari administration, experts have more than doubled from the 2015 records. Joining us to discuss this is Dayak Ayadeh, a public affairs analyst and Ike Waiyeh, Sharafa Omweli, illegal practitioner. Thank you gentlemen for joining us. Yes, good evening. It's my pleasure being with you on this evening. Thank you for having me. Thank you. It's my pleasure to build your program. All right. Great. Thank you very much. Let me start with you, Mr. Ike Waiyeh. Let's look at the President's promises from 2015. The President did tell us that he was going to change a lot of things. He was going to deal with unemployment. He was going to deal with security, three top things and of course deal with corruption. How well would you score, Mr. President, in terms of those three top promises did he deliver? Mr. Sharafa, can you hear me? Yeah, I will too. Go ahead. Well, it's my pleasure to be on this program. As a matter of fact, President Obama-Buhari, I don't think as our President, when I was speaking, a lot of challenges. Bodies on security. Bodies on economy. And we didn't make the use of administration. We have been able to stabilize Nigerian nations. If you pass our mind back to President Mr. Buhari Kukua, Kukua Aram's urgency was actually assuming a very dangerous trend to the extent that they were in control of most states in the notice of this country. In fact, they were also there flagged in almost all the local governments in that part of the country. And they were much known to take over North Central and North West. Mr. Buhari Kukua was able to dismantle the sale that Kukua Aram was having in almost all the states in the notice. To the extent that today, Kukua Aram are no longer having the grip of a single chance, not a talk of look at their money. What we are having currently is a guerrilla warfare. And it's a difficult thing. It's a conventional way to fight a guerrilla warfare. It's a difficult thing not to deploy technology after that in fighting guerrilla warfare. So to my mind, President Buhari Kukua has security, a culturally downward. To hear of economy, if you look at our foreign research, it is robust. It is healthy from the time when it took over. I want to forget that this government has experienced some lengthy in politics, international politics, in economy. And don't forget, in your 20th century, the old world experienced a COVID pandemic. And we are yet to actually come out of that challenge. So we should give it to the current president. I have tried to ensure that our economy is stable despite the challenges in the world economy. And as a matter of fact, the government has been able to stabilize too many things. And Nigeria is actually better off for this. If you look at the real policies, if you look at this government, we might not actually feel the impact now, but I can assure you, the incoming administration will definitely consolidate all the games the government has achieved in the area of security, area of economy, and areas of infrastructure. Look at our rules. Most of our rules have been reconstructed, repaired, so many. And not only that, rail transportation has taken its toll. Today, we are having rail transportation to keep Karima and Abuja, Legos and other fans of health work. And they are not planning to have rail from Cano to Potakot, which to my mind will boost our economy, will improve a lot of things. So I want Nigerians to believe that rule was not between a day. This government has actually laid foundation, solid one, welcoming administration to build on in the areas of infrastructure, areas of security, and areas of economy. We might be faced that we are experiencing some challenges. Yes, we must understand that it's not always easy to have a very good, robust administration without sacrifice. That's what we are experiencing now. And I can assure Nigerians, we have gone past Egypt, we are moving on to the deep scale of this country, and just willing all of us who love and be happy in the couple of months or years when we go back to Iran. Mr. Shafa, I'm interested in some of these assertions that you've made, especially when you say that a lot has been done and that we will laugh. So we're supposed to wait till the eight-year tenure is over for us to be able to laugh. I mean, we couldn't laugh last week. We couldn't laugh in December. We couldn't laugh in January or in February or in March when we had the Naira and the cash crunch. So we're going to wait until the president's hands over, and then we're going to be able to laugh really. How well? No, no, no, just hold on, because you've made very interesting points about dealing with insecurity and how things have changed and roads have an infrastructure has been put together. Out of all of the monies that we've borrowed, I mean, I'm sure that you know that our debt profile has almost hit the roof, if not literally taken the roof off, and we've had stolen crude every single day in this country, so much so that nobody can account for that crude. And the president sits as the Petroleum Minister. All of this is happening under his watch, and you're telling me where you are that he has been able to deliver on the dividends of democracy. All of this is happening under his watch. He's taking it where he wants. Mr. Kawaii, you need to turn off your television. We're having a feedback, please. Now. Mr. Kawaii, please turn off your TV so that we don't have that feedback again. Thank you. All right, I've got that. Now, I set the function now, and I want to repeat. Government is a consumer. When Mr. Kawaii and Mr. Kawaii took over in 2016, he took over both after the liability of the adjunct government, and what he inherited was a lot of issues which he tried to solve and resolve. Mr. Kawaii was used in laying a very good foundation for our economy, a very good foundation for our culture, a very good foundation for our security. Now, I mentioned earlier, the issue of Rukwara, this one, was becoming a very threatening national challenge when the government was in office. When it came on board, when the government was in office, it showed that if government totally demobilized Rukwara and its citizens in North Nigeria, today, we are not having, as we're having, we might have this thing. But we have other forms of insecurity, Mr. Kawaii. We have never in the history of this country could a moving train be stopped, but it was done under the Baha'i administration and people were kidnapped. So dealing with Rukwara, yes, all fine and well, but then there are other issues. Mr. Kawaii, please, disease from turning on your television because that's giving us a feedback. What I said was that what we are currently currently now is rather guerrilla warfare. And don't think because it is a conventional method to subdue a guerrilla warfare. That's why you are still having the purchase of Napa Haram there and they are striking the monetary of that means of starting our security apparatus as it is easy because our very proper government and family are poor. As I said, the government is not going to change that technology was destroyed in meeting the both security infractions in our state. And I cannot show you because the Mawangari administration has made a foundation of college security network. Like all the administration would have really been on to ensure that finally the issue of intelligence is nothing, foundation is also for Rukwara put to rest. But what I said is that Nigeria and Nigeria are enjoying very little peace for the people to be safe. And you are doing that our government activities in all regions of this country are going on as planned. We are not going to have any serious economic breaches in any part of the country except for Nigeria which is normal which is not going to be compared to Nigeria. In America there are a series of security breaches in Rukwara. There are series of security breaches which means no nation is at least free from security challenges. If you have security challenges you can have their massive technology to know how to show that Nigeria we are trying. And we are saying that so far so good because the things in Nigeria are being brought under control. Our autonomy is actually between all. All right. All right, Mr. Waiakaiwe. Let me go to Mr. Dayakairi now. Mr. Kairi, let me go back to what you said. All right. Let me go to what Mr. Waiakaiwe said. I would like to quote him directly. He said that the President inherited an economy that was in disarray. He said corruption was rampant. Our prizes were nose diving and outstandingly an international terror sale controlling a territory of a size of Belgium within the country. But my question is, the President obviously knew these things and he was very impressed. Isn't that why he was campaigning to deal with Boko Haram, to deal with the economy and give us the kind of government that we were asking for? Yes. Am I having this problem? Yes, we can hear you. Yes, you see, I'm going to give my condition for the future. And rather than to be safe for the future and for the future and factors. Now, let us take the purity as a positive point. When this comment was campaigned, it talked about insecurity. I was going to face it clearly. And interestingly, the candidate if he did, 2014 to 2015, used to be a soldier that would stop all its fate to face insecurity and other types of insurgency within our nation. But unfortunately, and he got the power the incident of insecurity in our country became so alarming. So the extent that it was sub-government started shouting that insecurity is making their state of government do for them. Now the question is this, the so-called community that the in quotes now, Moko Mara, in there, were they not exploiting the mineral resources there? So the extent that I also mentioned, all over the place there, some aircraft were supplying food items, water, and other things to all those abandoned places. That is why. Two, 29 news. A man, Paul, said on CNN sometimes ago and she said, the media that is unable to fight insurgent within its political entity within 24 hours is an I mean, I mean, it's part of that thing. It's not like in that office there, you are having peace, you have been operating for years that have known you peacefully and somehow a kind of a conflict now came in and you are all seeing it and you are not attacking it and you want to tell me your your money man is not in the public? Your money man is not in the public? Can that box of money be still on this security? And America was kidnapped somewhere in Africa and was brought down to Nigeria and the American president he warned that America released allies within 24 hours. All the way from America they came to Nigeria and they rescued that person. Is that what we talk about to leadership? You are traumatizing you in your country and you are calling a guerrilla warfare a guerrilla warfare? Anyway, let's leave that because of our technology let's come to economy let's come to economy What were the economic indices that made Nigeria the fastest growing economy in Africa since 2015 because the data are there not manufactured by me but even by our Sanjuku Guru in Nigeria alright? What were the indices then? What do we have now? I really want to use words that will not be easily described by listeners but rather I'm going to be basic in 2014 to 2015 that's number one that's number one what are the productive capacity of our industry that's number two when we're looking at when we're looking at the rate of employment what are we having then? How much was the bag of rice then? How much is it now? I'm talking about I'm talking about market price indices What do we have there? What do we have now? Are you talking about economy? What was the rate of of people, professionals learning people living in our country then I mean tomorrow it is just now that we're not having I mean very loud that kind of situation now Mr Khairi let me just come in there Mr Khairi let me come in there Mr Khairi let me come in there just hold on I want to correct an impression the Jack Wa syndrome that you're talking about this is every single time in the history of this country we have seen we keep seeing people leave this country in droves I do not exactly believe that it's just under the Buhari administration that people have left this country in droves I do not want to believe that I want to correct that impression there had to be before now there was Andrew and we don't leave the country and all that but I'm not talking about the rate the rate of president I'm talking about a great part of the top priority analysis not our research institutions and you see that a lot of researchers living in Nigeria working abroad have we ever seen in the history of our nation our national assembly discussing about the rate of emigration of our professionals before because of that reason I'm not even saying what happens all over the country that's what we call migration and all that now but the incidence now anyway let's leave the economy let us come to corruption I'm sure we will appear to have just approved approved another loan of $22.5 trillion not billion, trillion which which to be taken from the central bank what did that money mention tell me it's coming that is having just about three weeks to leave office no tell me and this is this is a money that was not allowed about a year ago so what are the facts that we consider to talk the money we must have a lot of money that is enough for a year project to not be approved what has happened to the ex-wife ex-wife ESC chairman that was unleashed a lot of corrupt activities what has happened to the NDBC NDBC and let corruption I'm talking about sub-demise sub-demise that happened in national assembly what has happened people be warning MTA the European authority whereby these are what are made what soldiers called before what has happened what did they make the alleged what happened now Mr. Karey let me call me tell me how has this government lost it yet unfortunately we have lost Mr. Sharif on this call but there are those who would score the president's administration pretty high in terms of infrastructure development and there are statistics to back that the president has not lost it or failed in every single aspect of his administration that he has been able to do well in terms of infrastructure development quickly let's talk about because we have just about two minutes to wrap up here let's talk about what the president can do to change things to prepare the grounds for this continuity that you're talking about as government being a continuum do we see President Buhari you know laying the foundation for an easier and better governance before May 29 is there even enough room for any changes to be made yes Mr. Buhari government is a continuum all right is that why we are having the most the biggest Nigeria that we used to have for that stand up stand up the incoming government the the president's the president's let of Nigeria we are going to continue on the legacy that this government is going to leave behind but my question now is what are those legacy yes government is a continuum for this say because government is a continuum we will not continue on things that are not that is not a defining of as a people whereby you go to schools universities the houses are presented whereby a lot of people are now into unemployment whereby our economy is going to change whereby our refineries are not working whereas are we putting money to make our refineries work we are not borrowing money we are not borrowing money so give to people because we want to remove some things that this particular government said was a fraud why the way it can be government is a continuum we find another way to make our nation to put our nation on the path of progress and work for us Mr. Daya Kaede is a public affairs analyst and Okawosha is a legal practitioner unfortunately we lost him in the middle of this conversation thank you so much for joining us Mr. Kaede yes this is my play up alright well up next we turn our attention to the senate's key to the United Kingdom government or by Kei Ikorimadu's organ trafficking case stay with us