 What's up guys? Welcome to Esfiam Buzz. My name is Liz Jackson and today I have another big, big, big star, Munamjua. Ako na jinaia unyama, Namunamjua. So, tumbili. Habariakumze tumbili. Niko sa fika bisa Liz Jackson, okopowa. Niko fiti. Niko sunutanzakuni tamueshimiwa. Kitu suru. Nakuja, 2027 ni kubaya. Uta pita? Nio api misi pitaangi. Nga pita na gila mutu. So, 2027 tu nengia pale kitu suru. Dakuja mca pale. Oh, you guys, that's tumbili has just declared that he's going for the kitu suru. Ni kitu suru ama kitu suru. Residencin kitu suru already know. They already know manze imagine. Kasipula na takuni yomba ni ni, pesa. Sen mambesina. Mambesina. Anasho no tiyata bi. Ah, we ni biya biya bro, tulisha kipu taim. Ndoa sewa na kamu, we kamu. Kasipula ni, dr. Kasipu. So, tumbili umesema 2027, mca seat, kitu suru, nasi mama. Ni kitu suru ama kitu suru. Aama kitu suru. Kitu suru. 2027. All right, guys. So, tumbili leu me piga luku pamba safi for the first time ume chana nyele tangu ni kumit. What's going down today? Auna jua, mimi in person mi u chana nyele. Picha zangu, like sen ni ta kupiga selfie kuna vili intafanya fanya nyele iwi. Sasa uni mimi kwa ground. Kwa ground mi u kwa gaivi. Ni kita kupiga picha yani, usiya chewa sewa kujue vili uko. Onyeshe, kuna identity ya online na kuna iya ground. Kusaba wana inti kwa ground lazima u kwe mone kana wemsuri. Sasa uni mimi, even do mi wudunga daily. Daily? Dali me kwa namarakadana, u kwa iwi anyway. So, tumbili tu me kwa tukiuna hashtag who's laughing now me koki zunguka yani ume te seko me hangaika, unenda kwa kaosh na matiket. Who's laughing now ni ni? Who's laughing now is a comedy special featuring tumbili and maybe other comedians. Ya, maybe. Maybe. Ah, me sema maybe. So, nikulize, tickets ni how much na ita kwa wen? Leo ni Tuesday as we doing this interview now is Tuesday. The event is in just a day. Just a day. Si ni keshwa lafu. Yes. Si ku ni Thursday show. Ticket goes for a thousand shillings. Tickets as we speak right now they are like 90% sold. So, 10% maybe ni awalo watu me decide watu tachukulia kwa milango. Ya, but now 90% sold. We wanted to have it sold out, but ni kama tu jahamanage. But we still have ni ni to go. We see if keshwa wachatonevi le ku ta happen. Ya, ya, ya. But everything is ready. Ma fans ume nuwa ticket like kakrezi yani. I really appreciate them. Na kuna mtu moja mo niya me buy tickets mingi ni na ni wa utwambi? Eh, watu ame buy matiko? Kuna days ame buy 50 tickets. Kuna there's some person who bought 30. Kuna wakumi, kuna 14. There's a expedition motors under... Ya, they bought 20 tickets. Ya, ya, ya. So, uh, like two weeks ago tumbili, kulikwana talenta hele li lonjwa pala state house and a lot of creatives wa li kua. So, ni kangoja kuna tumbilia kiposa kwa pala state house it didn't happen. Kulienda je uli pata invite amani uli kua businessan. First of all, I heard that the invitation was open to any creative. I don't know if you can confirm that you were there. So, uh, mi ni li pata. Yo, I heard, uh, I heard it over that invitation is open. So, it means I was invited. Ninge nda singe kaziwa. But then, ni kaskia, as long as wuna drive, amo kunda ni hadinga wneza ingia. Sindi wa? We zingia wuki tembe ya. So, uh, mi mi, the reason why I didn't go, kwa I didn't get right the agenda of the whole thing of talenta hele. It's a good initiative, but again, siyoni li kvile nasaidiwa wasani. Noona. Kwa sabu over and over wasaniwa mi kua kilia. Na badwa talia. Noona. Uh, art is something that is, uh, it's a self-decision. Nobody sends you to do art. We only decide here. SPM didn't approach you at all. Li zi wuna kani kwa wneza tangaza kuja. Maybe you approached them. Wa ka piti apiti ni ni ni wa kakupe anafasi. So, that means the reason why wuna wasaniwa tendele akulia. Number one, we are too many. The government can't help each and every artist or, uh, content creator that is in Kenya. Noona. Even we can see it from time ya corona, there's some amount, like 10 million or 100 million, which what wengia wa kupata. Wato wengia wa kupata. Why? Because we are too many. So, talenta hele, badwa si gaipata visuri, uh, what is the objective? Because so far we haven't seen, uh, them supporting your art. Li wuna wali sponsor Safarirali. Safarirali ni ma bazu. Nia wali ni matajiri. They have sponsored WRC. Noona. The only way wali wasaniwa li, wali support iwa indirect, kuna concert zili e kwa pona iwasha, kata si of, uh, some promoters, nwa keka logo ya talenta hele. Noona. So, the reason mi si kuenda pale is, I don't know clearly what talenta hele is na ita, ita sediaje tumbili kwa ki tukama iyama wana ifanya. Then again, if you tukama easy, yes, they are willing to help. Maybe tumbili will knock a door pale at talenta hele, asem mi mi have this show, I want funding. Noona. But again, by the time upeweo funding, shoya kwa ita kwa isha pass. Because I know those processing ni ni ni, si jui yenda nani, si jui ako live TikTok, si jui azi yada kima liza live TikTok, ni 2 hours later kwa mi AC mi mi, endo wami nani, so it's something that niya kwa nga isha watu na mi mi frustrations in dosipendi. So it will consume time, I'm yet to see what talenta hele will do. I'm just hope siya kutume wa se, because we've seen vitu kama isi mingi, kuna isi youth fund, they don't benefit youths. Noona. Zina benefit wa se, the ni ni ni, the committee, most of the time, like talenta hele, I heard it was disbanded, but again disbanded, but again badu iko, so how is it operating? Noona. Si usani, noona, do you know the meaning of art? Art ni, ile part of wewe mo nyeku ji hasu liya, kama ume decide unafanya muziki, usi nungu nike usapotiwi, niwe uligi later. It's not a school where you can complain to your parents that's why it's called art. It's not a obligation to support you. It's not the obligation to support me. Mendo nili ji leta apa, wa kikuwa convince that mi ni kuna kitu ya kua peyaza, kua tumbuiza, they support me. So talenta hele, mi si i feel mi mi, si i feel, but siya ti, iene za tole wa tuna, wali wa se wa back in doa, si feel like kiyotu umili anaski ambaya ko, si si tu li powa yob. Noona. Mi si ku i feel, si ga i feel, because over the past years, even individual who came to know kuna kizi mi lango, za kwa ambaya say, ni kuna i kitu, ni kuna i kitu, they don't come through. Sasa i group, udapata, maybe budgeteo nika mi i li on mi amoja, then maybe 90 million will go to, ku li pa, ni ni, ku li pa, ni ni, shugulizao, cause transportation, ofisi, lipue, this guy's salary, noona. So a lot of money will go into, ku e kawa say, wakai fresh, wakai ni kawa na wakia talenta hella. Then 10 million sasando, muta kwa munekewa concert zabure, na iwasha, na ita o matenda. Do you know how to make a lot of money? Because wakai kia concert bure, they have talked to companies, zapombe, inyumulewa uko uchapa, uchupa, just because u li enda, gigia bure, noona. That's it, they are still making money even if it's a free gig. Ya. So a tukimalizia, nataka tuongelele, oflet, uli kuasi jim, na management job, uli ku na manage ingesh, ili kuina semekana iwa the manager. And lately tuliona, alisa iniwa na a garage, piasisia twelele. Nara direkos. Sasa unezat twelezia, what happened to the relationship with ingesh, na ni ni nina, ina indeleya sai? First of all, I've never been, I will never be, I'm not a manager to anybody. Just me tumbili. When ingesh, ngo mea ke li posto pale, I personally saw something in this, this chick. It was at that time when everybody was negative. Not everybody, a bigger percentage was negative. E uia na imbanini, yangali yame nozake, anaka siji yame, sungurame kula karot, siji ingoma ni kali kiyo amyut, yani all sorts of insults to this song. I took my time, took my resources, ni kaput my resources together, drove to Naivasha. Nika enda, nika kutana na, the crew. Nika chukua, nika fanyanini, kukarudi naivasha, nairobi. What I did was just to add value to this lady and show her the way. Mi misina skills a tiku manage mutu amani ni. I was just showing her the way. Ikwe iwe iwi, avoid this lane, use this lane, avoid these people, use these people. Ono na. That's when I said every person me na kuja na tak fanyangesh interview, should we give her something. And it was like that for day one. SPM paid, Eve paid, Tumili paid. Ono na. And many others. Ono na. Ata nani ezra mwenyewe. Situ li piga nani ingeshe ni ni, wig. But the wig was to be kept kuwa, kwa shop. Asi nde na uge to kwenye uko kwa rafki, ake kwenyal kuwa na lala. Kwa the wig was worth like 75,000. Ono na jwebe ya wig wewe. 75,000 na e kwa kichwa, ake nyanganywa. So ni kama mbe any time ako na interview ako na giga ako na ni ni. She'll be coming here a na fanywa make up a na pigwa wig a na enda wapi interview. The first one was for TV 47. Ni ma mbe ako jesa tisa na nosu so that we have ample time to do the the make up and the wig thing. Interview kuena zasa moja doktofoneke. She came at 6.30. And that is the day nilua patanisha na umar. Wialium sign. So what happened is umar mimi nili muambia nilitaka mbuembue tumingiza na mbuembue. Ni kama mbe umar as a TX ni kama mbe umar and he also my mechanic. Ni kama mbe umar ni aji. Siu kami witu pigi udem kipindi tumpele ke TV 47 na mbuembue visuri. Aka kuja nagari ake Eo 6.30 bitu bit traffic tukafika interview late like 30 minutes later. But tulukot na nga jewa. So kufika pale ofwene ke mi was not supposed to be part of the interview but ofwene ke alifanya angesh then aka mtuwa then aka fanya na mimi. Those were two episodes kando kando. So after me ma Lisa ofwene kaka ni mbe ni aji I have my radio show up to 11. Will you mind joining me? Ni kama mbe aza una zasa apia izo ni questions umutua kiku Lisa you can't reply negative TCAZ wa say wukachin mbe ano problemo si tukanda tukapiga shumpaka satano but ni yenden pikenpaka satano ni kama mbe nidropia udem kus mimi minta tokapa satano na ezik ni nga jampaka ni malize o ma rakam tukua wakatoka So I think apoka distance there are so many things that they talked about kus ikafikama Lisa angesh is not picking my calls ame tukwa kwanza tukwa na mbe ake ame pe anakwapi kwa bradzake wuki piga ni bradzake alasa bradzake wakata maniwali akwa nasimu nelesku ya kwanza lukutana I wanted to buy her a phone nilumuliza wkuna phone akantole aka ni onyesha ndiwi nika mbe anilikwa dania unan ni kikununu liya nona kaza wante da akwa nasimu poa ili ana interact na mafans ili ana interact na mafans kidogo kidogo mini kwa mombasa na ona tii nani omar ame post ingesh waki wa mesalimiana iwi na karatasi iwi nashindwa omar siging ingesh but does hi have any skills ako shikamsa ni does he have any connections tisi tuna connections nesam tuma anezata pigata interviewata kumi mimi by the time she was being signed nilukwani me book ingesh for 6 gigs which I cancelled all of them the moment I saw that post I cancelled set nilukwani mimi sigina mani ni I wanted to show her the way a pimpiwe visuri nilimbaia viatu palê shuhab alikuw adresi yagwefpwa wa wa tii kufuwezo marrinda rindaz enye ni ni ni nina ka asi ni ni ni ni ni ni nina na nga negasemi wa wa tii tumpimpiwe visuri like six months tumuad value wa tia omuoguwe keila kitu na nga studio to lisha lipa video location to lisha lipa tuliisha sought Magari Lexus 570 nna Wranglaza JJ titas Big shout out prosto jei jei Taitazaliku baliku Toka gariza kembili zaki Whari na nyumba hinzima ahole Bhungalo Manshon, machata Bhungalo Manshon hinzima tupege video pale so mi i didn't feel bad dati ngesha mesai nuka I felt bad because these two I brought them together oma aratanya nmia nmi ataku sani ngesh ono nage nimua mi mi sinai isuna nayo We go ahead, we sign, mimi mintendu liya kum-sapot from a distance But them going behind my back and doing all those stuff ninini Mimi manya at the end of the day, if Ngesh happens to go down na ma disapie vilewa sanu, disapia for some time then wa na uliza lienda gawapi, mimi don'ta tagi wa kwaizu upuzi because people do tag me everywhere atu wa li kuja kwa diyemi hangu the momenti li sama I'm not liable for anything with Ngesh They came to my DM, so many of them atu usimuachili e manza mimi kili e dunini no no, where's the force mutu you know she's a grown up where's the force mutu we uli ni ambia the other time ati alikwa na liya alikwa na liya ni ni? Ngesh, nikipatan na Ngesh, alikwa na sema the name is big, but she has no money in the pocket na alikwa me give up, alikwa na rudi naiva asha and a give up, wome ju Ngesh for how long? a few weeks not few weeks, how long? a few weeks a few weeks, we've been in this game for 13 years Liz mimi nime juwabutita kwa muhupi wome juwabutita kwa muhupi, tu me kwa kwa i game for the longest you know na I was signed under SPM you know na, you don't know that I was signed under SPM because before it was a buzz you know na so, Sisi tu me kwa na badua tuna tuna vama sutiza shout out you know na, this so, nipige picha lazima nitag sutubai but nini me piga nime jitege mea I can't even tag anyone, isn't it? but Sisi ngesha me kwa game 3 weeks na nivi leta mimi me soonga it was 2 weeks 2 weeks you want to drive 2 weeks you want to pay kwingi kwa o taili na ulipe billa tia 10,000 for us atas hi badi na kwa gashida tuna pate excuse ya kwen na washroom na tuna slide away, you know na so, ajipe time kuna gitu na itwa patience and perseverance that's what we were doing I was putting in my resources nili mamia misiku mamia tina manage I wasn't managing and I can't manage because I know the pressure was on me I also have my personal things in kulia time no na so, yei e kulia liya ati jina ni kubua jina badu si kubua and that's Kenya nani apa Kenya akuna pesa mingi kuliko jina kwa nini musani nitagi e moja calligraph the name is bigger than the money he has no na the name is big name is big akuna musani Kenya mbae anahela ngingi kuliko jina ya ke so, ngesha atulia ati zi chini na mingi a place mbae ya nili kansu shu ya ke amombasa nili kansu ya kisumu nili kansu ya nani ya atklab nili kambia matiba mi am not part of it matiba aditu to book her sasa direct nili mpae anamba zika garaje canceled nini inaitu aji la viva I canceled nika mbewa say kwa nini aji nini mumu aprochi nini we am not part of this brand anymore am not part of it so yei kama na mimi mimi na nafani kwa nini na liya kwa sababu I took my time my airtime my resources nika unge na producers nika unge na nika mitaftia location nika unge na kila mtu I use my resources naka naivasha naka naivasha in less than an hour naka naivasha in less than an hour naka naivasha in less than an hour naka naivasha naka mitaftia naka naero nana e industry you can even be here for 50 years bila kwa moka na unaji tumayo the most adworking artist nana unge za kwa uko with the richest label but unatoa crap what you will listen to your music nana it's all about patience it will take you 20 years nana it will take you 10, 15 patience ya ni time time so yei ya tu liye badata jaanza stivo zindu ya na liya stivo me kwa kilia maybe even from the first week he was signed nile tu na mbego tu liya vitus ta kwa sawa kuna ziliu na pehamsa na waka hoops vagal kuna pehamsa na waka hoops sometimes na waka sometimes as you work people don't know the hustle of you holding someone some artist responsibilities out anyway msa ni kwa zupatem msa ni mzemba na kaivi na kupigia simu umepata gigiote ujiapata na rudia na tu liyevi na watch Netflix nana it's not easy sayi I heard the stivo complaining nga japata shows who is to blame the management but if you kwa ni mwei revu kiviako wneza token uji tafti gig ambia management imepata gigi deal with these people that's the problem with our artist that's why you see that Tanzania tuna peha Tanzanians views mingi kuliko villa tuna peha Kenyavetu and they say in Tanzania wana pata less views Tanzanians artists get less views from Tanzanians themselves wana why because CC are to support way to we have reasons because we are sending way to our Yuko series atawale weni wako series badu tuna wana wa Yuko series wana kuna vitu Kenyan audience na taku wana mbuembuwe weka mbuembuwe wana patience ngeisha na liya first second week badata jakula Christmas iote kwa i game moide jampata ataboxing diya jakula badu na na liya already so patience management means I have no problem with Umar but kame yako serious na taku pushum gal which I don't know atato up skills and stuff because it needs a lot connection kana Umar get to SPM na ingesha pigi interview nini without SPM approaching ingesh management hawezi anaju wa tu tumbili kwa media anaju wana tu na tumbili true it just knows tumbili nani na pluto sisi ndo wana na tengenezea magari yes unasa inu akwa garage atangit after tata location flani maali apige shuguli ikai serious hey alright guys so tumekwa tukipiga story na tumbili I hope me pata masuali mulikom na uliza kusungesh kusu who's laughing now so guys I'm gonna see you on Thursday who's laughing now Kenyanashano Tieta inanzasangapi? shu inanzasakumi na nambili paka saan na usiku saakumi na nambili in English 6pm or 18 hours alright 1800 hours or 6pm Kenyanashano Tieta see you at who's laughing now adios