 What is going on guys Ryan Hammer here with Liv and Chantel? We are here for the bracket breakdown last minute right before the tournament starts tomorrow. What's up guys? What's going on? Oh, you know feeling good Sulking and Vaughan Miller heading to the bills But that's not what we're here to talk about. So I'm just gonna get it off my chest right up front Ouch that one hurt. That was a big F you from Vaughan Miller right to my face. It is what it is I'm cool. Don't mind the Broncos helmet back there. We're gonna pretend that doesn't exist for the show Other than that, I'm doing great Ryan. I'm doing great. Otherwise, I knew we had to start off with a rant like that because We won't it's not this is not a football talk. I get it, but six years like come on now six crazy Excessive that's excessive. Come on now There that's them just trying to hurt my feelings more It's attack at you personally no one else They knew they knew you'd be upset about it. So that's why they're like, let's give them the six years Exactly but we are here for the bracket talk obviously the NCAA tournament starts tomorrow March Madness We've been doing bracket stuff all week long. It's time for our final thoughts We have some of the playing games done to them Peter Kiss and Brian against Wright's data is on right now It's actually behind me see in the corner of the screen there and we got Rutgers Notre Dame later So we're gonna focus first if you guys are cool down the Rutgers Notre Dame game What it means for them what they need to do to get past in the West region and we'll kind of flow into the West from there So let's hear initial Rutgers Notre Dame thoughts and how we're looking I have thoughts for me. Sorry Sean tell them first That's not go ahead. I don't really follow either one of those teams. So I'm just gonna say it right off the bat I like to fade the public and I feel like a lot of the public is on Rutgers So it makes me want to tail Notre Dame tonight But other than that, I don't really have a strong opinion on this game Okay For me, I would probably say Rutgers to I don't really think Notre Dame shouldn't even been in the play And to be honest with you I know some people are taking Notre Dame, but I've got a rock with Rutgers also Sometimes you just got to go with whoever has the better jersey. So I'm gonna roll with Rutgers and that one I know some people do some like a wild picks with their brackets But I got Rutgers one in this one and I actually well, we'll get to it later, but um, yeah I'm rolling with Rutgers speaking of while Jersey's Wright State is wearing some kind of like really awful camo Jersey It's just gross right now. I'm not gonna show off to the screen But the Rutgers game so it's funny live you said that you think the public you know It's actually going back and forth Rutgers started as the favorite then they went as a one-point favorite They went to one and a half underdogs and now they're at one point favorites again Because I think the public's going back and forth on them and like people will go in our game now And it'll just kind of stay around even which I think is kind of fair But Rutgers seems like the fan favorite pick. I would definitely agree with that. I'm on Rutgers for the record Well now I'm scared. Don't be scared stick with your pick. Who do you guys think like? Alabama is like a weird team. They've been really hot and cold I've said that they could lose in the first round. They can go to the final four all year long Who do you guys think poses a bigger threat to Alabama in the ground 64? I Like Alabama a lot. They got really good guard play and I think they got strong guard play But I actually have them meeting Texas tech and I think that's where they're gonna be getting into some type of trouble Because Texas tech is really good defensively So I think their guards are gonna have a little bit of trouble there But I'm actually gonna roll with Alabama for that one I just like their guard play a lot and I think they are the favorites if I'm not mistaken for that one Now, yeah, yeah, they definitely will be a favorite it for sure believe you got an opinion on that one I actually have Alabama losing to Texas tech. I made my whole bracket with a defensive mindset Yeah defense wins championships and that's just kind of how I always handicap even in the NBA I I looked at my bracket this year from two perspectives one was defensively and second was from the free throw line I think something that we can all relate to when it comes to betting on college basketball is missed free throws We'll ruin your bets nine out of ten times And so I'm really liking Texas tech to take down Alabama. Actually, I have Texas tech moving on and then facing Duke After Alabama, so I do have Texas tech winning that one again Like Chantel said it boils down to me for defense and I just think defensively They're the stronger squad so I'm rocking with tech which is hard for me to say because I'm a TCU girl, so We're gonna get to TCU in a bit so the defense is a good point because like there's a lot of live You know, I'm a nerd like this like there's a lot of historical stats It's a like if you're not in the top 100 in defensive efficiency You can't get to the bottom four and if you're not in the top 20 defensively, I think it's 25 now You can't win the national championships So all those things are supported and there's more free throws in the tournament The games are closer because the pressure is higher and the stakes are higher So there statistically are more free throws And I think I also lean with like experience because even if you're like a 75% free-throw shooting team I think you can feel the pressure if your team is young and that's why I'm staying away from teams like Arizona at times And maybe even Auburn down the stretch to an extent just because these teams and these guys haven't been there a lot And I think the experience seems like Villanova will really thrive in those moments Will they be in those moments? Who knows but we want you guys want to roll through the West region There are any hot tape. Yeah I don't know if you guys have any big hot takes out of the West region that most people won't have you think I Have I have Vermont. I think going further than a lot of people would Again looking at everything defensively and from the free-throw line. I have them actually beating Yukon and then battling it out So I have them defeating Arkansas Taken down Yukon and then battling out against Gonzaga and then Gonzaga actually wins that one But I do have Vermont. I think going further than a lot of other people probably do So that's probably my one sleeper team In the west Okay Yeah, you know what I actually really really like Vermont too this team can score They dominated the american east and I think they're going to cause some damage But I actually have them losing to Yukon because I'm going to roll with Yukon because I really like rj coal Tyrese martin is a stud and they're going to be taking on new Mexico state In that first round and a lot of people have new Mexico state beating a 12 seed beating the 50 But I'm going to roll with the spread in that one Yukon's a minus 6.5 Favorite so six and a half point favorite So I'm going to roll with Yukon in that one But I do think Yukon and Vermont are going to meet and the atmosphere in that game is going to be wild There's going to be a lot of People coming up for that game from Yukon and Vermont. So yeah, Vermont's one of those sleeper ones So I'm not even mad at that pick live if you got that one going a little bit far I think that's a good one because this team can put up points. Yeah, hope and so hope and so That's funny you mentioned New Mexico state because I am on new Mexico state I don't know if I can't get a percentage of picks and who's on who it'll obviously lean Yukon But it might be more than like obviously other like high seed differentiations games But new Mexico state is notoriously I guess not notorious not a bad thing But they're always a good rebounding team And I think that's going to really smother Adam Sonogo Well, and they have their two guards Teddy Allen Teddy Allen who as Dan Hurley said today the Yukon coach He said Teddy Allen is a bucket Even though it's playing against him and they have Sergeibari writes. There's two big guards. They also crash the boards really well So I think that's really gonna really gonna cause a good match up against Yukon I have the Aggies this one, but I think Yukon 100% can go to compete with Gonzaga on the sweet 16 I just feel like this is a part in the bracket where I think okay This is 10 20 points Basically nothing if I have Gonzaga going past whoever they meet in the sweet 16 So I I believe in New Mexico state So I was like I might as well take a chance here because I don't think anyone's getting past the sacks anyway, so You know what? This is the year that Yeah, you know what? This is the year every year Gonzaga is right there and they're not able to get it done But this year which at home grand who people are talking about he could be the first pick in the NBA draft this year Depending on if you like, you know, bank arrow or not from duke But this is a guy that's been good for them all season long. They got a lot of depth I got a shout out Andrew Nemhard who's canadian like myself and they got a lot of depth on this squad So I'm I think Gonzaga is going to go far this year, but I don't it's going to be tough man because you know, it's it's a mental thing for them too They're always right there and not able to get it done But I think this one might be their year where they go all the way to the finals for sure As the number one overall seed like they got they got a tough draw I'll say straight up because like Boise State is first of all Leon Rice who's the Boise State coach Was mark fuse assisted at Gonzaga for 11 years before he got the Boise State job And I think Memphis Athletically is superior to Gonzaga. So that'll poise a really interesting matchup if they get passed So I think either of their second round opponents will be really tough and we already talked about Yukon even Arkansas I think is a good dark horse team and they're going to have to play duke who they already lost this year Texas Tech another athletic defense. Uh, so I think it for the overall one seed It's very surprising how hard their path is to the final four. Um, but Yeah, that Memphis Boise State game that one could go either way because Memphis is a minus three favorite in that one But when you look at it like they've had to do tumultuous year with penny hardaway And then Amani Bates gets injured and they turn it around like they lose their best player. They turn it around I'm going to roll with Memphis in that one though. But honestly, it could go either way They've been the second best team in the country is a good stat. Amani Bates, uh, stopped playing on the 27th of January Since january 28th, they've been the second most efficient team in the entire country. They've been amazing Even though they lost the aac final, they have been awesome. They're popular pick They were a bubble team a month ago and now they jump all the way to a single-digit seed So they've definitely been trending in the right direction Um, all right, let's move down to let's go to the east We were talking about the east before a little bit beforehand Uh, we'll just go straight down the east to me the toughest region I think it's got not only top heavy teams But it's got some of the best mid majors and some of the better like Murray state in San Francisco And also some of the better high seats like Virginia tech Let like there's got to be hot takes we have in this one, right? Oh for sure. Should we start off with Murray state though? I love Murray state so much Dude, they're they're playing so well offensively and I love tevin brown Like that kid is a stud You know how like in mark manage is always a superstar that's born Yeah, watch out for tevin brown because I think he's gonna shine I got Murray state actually going pretty far in my bracket to be quite honest with you They're kind of my Cinderella team because they're not really a Cinderella though because they've been balling this year but I have them beating Kentucky and then meeting Texas and then Them beating Texas as well. So I got Murray state actually going pretty far. They're my Cinderella for this season Love it. I have them beating San Francisco and then Them beating Kentucky and then losing to Virginia tech. So I do have them going pretty far. Um But then I have Virginia tech taking care of business with them. So I I knew shantel We're gonna get along well Murray state is been I've been saying they were a final four team since the beginning of 2022 I have them in my main bracket. I have them in the elite eight And I almost thought about going to the final four the little brother big brother thing live We talked about this earlier today Kentucky against Murray state They never schedule each other in the regular season for whatever reasons they have Loyola, Chicago and Illinois had the same running last year in the one in the eight when they were in the bottom right region I think it's gonna be the same thing here. The little brother wins they go on It's just one of those upsets that like I think people want to take But they can't convince themselves to take it for the most part and I've I've been convinced I saw the bracket that I was taking Murray state here. Kentucky's been trending in the wrong direction I actually think I don't I don't have st. Peter's winning st. Peter's is a terrible match up for them They have a really good press defense Kentucky's awful against the press defense And st. Peter's has been one of the most efficient teams in the tournament in the last month So I'm really looking forward to the Kentucky st. Peter's game. I'm not even joking You know live said something really live said something really crazy though that I actually like like for betting Virginia Tech in Texas is going to be a crazy game And I was like which way should I go because Virginia Tech just won the ACC And Texas they were having a really good season early on and then I think they dropped like They lost of course in their final game of the season and they were struggling I think they had like three or four losses in a row, but I really like Texas still for some reason I think Virginia Tech played their hard zone in the ACC championship. I think Texas is a minus 118 I'm actually rolling with Texas I'm rolling with Texas to be Virginia Tech But I like Liv's pick like just for betting on because they had they had quite the tournament Yeah, Virginia Tech is right now. They are plus 360 to make this week 16 I think the first round and even the second round against Purdue like they'll match up pretty well I think it's the first round game. It's gonna be more important for them because if they win a game People are gonna be like, oh, I really should have taken them because they're still hot and they're still going So plus 360 is not bad and their mind is 500 for no So obviously if you believe in Virginia Tech pretty good odds, I would say to make this week 16 For sure. Yeah, I've got them In the elite eight, I've actually got them in the elite eight and they lose to Baylor The Hokies losing to Baylor. Hey, I you really you keep saying like you go against the big 12 teams You don't like them, but you're taking all of them. Well, I have you know what? Listen, I not not not the one not Kansas I got rid of them quick. I got rid of them quick. I can't stand Kansas Baylor's one of those things where it's like You can fight it all you want, but they're a great and very competitive team So I've got to set aside my bias and just accept it for what it is So As much as I want to fight the Baylor one, you just can't you got to just take that L Be a horn frog Use your brain think smart and just you know, so I am I I do have Baylor coming out of the east But they're battling between Virginia Tech. So we'll say Baylor's got a big injury though, too They didn't win the big 12. Yeah, you know, I mean they got a big injury But they're way too talented, but it's something to think about because they're gonna be without JTT So, you know, they're not going to have that big presence that six eight kid from Cameroon. I believe so I think Baylor is a team that's beatable because of that injuries Yeah, I think I think flow Famba is like a more than sufficeable at least replacement at the big They don't go deep They play seven guys and one of their and their seventh guy plays like 15 minutes a game in the last stretch of games L. J. Cryer who's actually their leading scorer on paper is game time decision for this week I'm really hoping he could play if they can get past the first weekend It seems like he'll be able to play at least in the second weekend. So that'll be a huge addition He'll be able to go eight guys, but losing Jonathan Chalmachacho is huge. I think flow Famba is good He's not nearly as good as Chalmachacho. Especially as a defensive anchor in the paint Um, I also have Baylor coming out They're actually the second favorite to get out at plus 260 and Kentucky is the favorite at plus 250 To get out basically even on those two teams. Which kind of makes sense when you think about it, I guess, right? Yeah, honestly, though, I actually have UCLA beating Baylor I got UCLA beating Baylor because I think they got all the experience from last year I think Johnny Juzang is going to ball out and I really like this UCLA team. I'm also packed full bias So I gotta yes, I know they never get love and football, but in basketball It's a different deal, right? So I gotta I gotta definitely roll with UCLA I got them beating Baylor because I do think that jpt injury is going to catch up to them and UCLA is super talented The one thing I'll say about that game is that that matchup I've been losing sleep over that by the way in the sweet 16 I think Baylor and UCLA could both lose in the second round But likely that they'll be in the sweet 16. I think Miles Johnson I watched him at Rutgers for a couple of years. Now UCLA now They don't have a big presence UCLA that's like blistering that's really going to ruin Baylor So I think that's a plus for Baylor, but it's still going to be tough Hami Hawke has been scoring like 25 a game in the last five games and Juzang hasn't been good So if Johnny can play any better than he has been they're really really going to be in trouble Whoever's whoever's in front of them is going to be in trouble. Uh, UCLA's path. I do I do see that What do you guys feel about this five this 12 five matchup though Indiana and st. Mary's you guys got to upset there because you know that like 12 five matchup is always one of those good ones to bet on Yeah, I I like after watching IU last night. I like I had Indiana at first or Wyoming whoever's going to win that game Um, I don't hate st. Mary's I do think this game is going to be under 100 points total Maybe not actually under 100, but it's going to be super low scoring st. Mary's Literally slows the pace down more than anybody else in college basketball Um, Indiana though trace looked pretty decent last night, but other than that. I'm not super high on them I go 50 50. I probably stay with st. Mary's though I think I'm going to roll Oh, you guys, okay I think I'm actually going to roll with Indiana because they actually were playing some really good defense You mentioned trace Jackson and they also got Xavier Johnson too and I think those two together might be too much for st Mary. So I'm I'm definitely going to roll with Indiana on that one and just take spread Yep, that's I think that's fair. It makes sense. I think the public will be on indiana for the most part Um, the line they're plus two and a half. It's a really close for 12 five, obviously But for good cause we all know indiana has been hot and they almost made a streak to the big 10 turn of the final If it wasn't for Iowa, um, but all right, we mentioned before live I know you want I'm gonna let you take this one to start off You mentioned kansas the aztec. I do have an aztec hat on actually As you have an aztec hat on And you know, I'm with you. So I definitely want to hear you. I'm not a fan and it's not a personal thing I just want to I'll let you go take the stage for that one Yeah, uh defense defense. That's really what it boils down to for me. Honestly I have san diego state beating crayton and then I've got them actually taken down the j hawks and moving on Um To the sweet 16 I do have them losing to iowa in my bracket But I love san diego state, uh in this spot versus kansas I think that their defense is just going to really slow down the offense from the j hawks and Was there a little bit of bias there? Absolutely But I really do defensively like this like san diego state So i'm going to rock with them to take down the kansas j hawks I actually like that pick san diego plays a really really good defense And you know what crayton they played pretty well. I mean come on. They played well in the big east tournament They beat provident So crayton's one of those teams I feel like they're always kind of a sleeper in the journey But I got to roll with san diego state and I love live lives pick for them to beat kansas Because I think kansas is that one seed that people are doubting right now So I love that pick the one upset that I actually have is I know people are rolling with the hawk eyes because they won the big 10 But personally I hate the big 10 and I'm being I'm going to be a little bit biased I'm going to be I'm I'm going to keep it real. Okay. The big 10 gets way too much love all of the time And um, I'm just saying I'm keeping it real Whoa, whoa Happens in polka with ratings. Um, and you know what I they won the big 10. They looked really good But richman tyler burton's gonna be playing he's gonna be dropping some major trades and just for the upset Just because it's a good bet richman is a plus 4 30 I would definitely bet on that game for being an upset I have been saying this I've been saying this is the upset that I don't have the guts to take but I'm so I'm right there on I'll tell you one thing 10 and a half 10 and a half points way too I'm I'm already fully on that you want to put two three four units, whatever you sprinkle in there I'm pretty confident the richman's spread at the least richman's the team that I think is the most opportunity to be the Oregon state like what the Oregon state of last year of this year Um, I think they're really really their experience. They have really good chemistry I think that jacob gillard he leads the country in steals He's going to terrorize jordan bohan and whoever is playing guard for Iowa. They're not going to be able to run their normal offense I am really tempted to go richman here. It's been tough and then to play South Dakota state in the next round. This could this could be a bracket full of double-digit seeds I also like live have san diego state too going past Kansas I have been going to pass Iowa too if they get if Iowa gets there as well I have been going to the lead eight to meet auburn For a chance to go to New Orleans in the final four So I think this bracket this region is going to be absolutely insane and like maybe because I think that it'll be all shock one two three You might have just jinxed it ryan. No I know john our boy john ralstein calls it the region of vulnerability and that's so he says if you're gonna pick a Dark horse team like san diego state to get out then you could pick it out of this region I think san diego state is The sixth favorite they are tied for the sixth favorite to get out of this region even though they're the eight seed Um, so that's pretty interesting. Good value. I mean, I guess the books are realizing that I know a lot of people are taking south Dakota because they won like 21 in a row like some crazy thing They're minus two on the spread. They can defend really well I love Nate Watson though out of providence. He can ball I think he's gonna be way too much for south dakota to be honest with you I think he's gonna be unstoppable and I think he's gonna be one of those players in the first round that we're all talking about So I actually have providence and richman meeting in this one Like he said this bracket this part of the bracket anything can happen and there's it's wild So I got providence and richman meeting I like that's different for a reason Yeah, I can imagine that like most of like the dark horse final four picks I'm not trying to offend live is gonna be Iowa out of this region because like everyone's like that's a five seed Like I'll have a one a one or two and then a five and like it's fine It's very welcome to happen. They are the hottest team in the country and they've been unbelievable So it's obviously very welcome to happen for good reason, but I do like richman as well All right, we'll roll up to the last region we have up here the south region Once you guys take it away anything that you're like super confident in you're not confident at all any big topics from this region um For me personally a bet that I really like because I could actually see this team Winning outright and I'm sure a lot of people will disagree But I love chattanooga plus eight versus illinois because I really think that they have a shot at actually winning that game outright So taking so getting them at plus eight to me is a total steal and I love it So again defensively from the free throw line I think when you're taking an underdog to cover the spread those free throws really really matter down the you know Towards that end of the second half So I really like chattanooga plus eight I do have them winning outright in my bracket And I don't know if that was just you know a bold take but I do think getting them at plus eight is awesome So I really like them and then I also can't fade sister jean. I have Beating uh, ohio state as well as beating villanova actually um, so those are probably my two teams that i'm like You know excited about but definitely chattanooga plus eight. I really like I like that pig I love it. Um, I actually I have uab Defeating houston. I think there are a plus eight and a half Uab has one of the best offenses in the entire country. Although the conference usa champs. Jordan walker is Crazy balling right now. So I have that upset. I know people got houston going far, but houston I'm just I'm stuck on their on their offense Can they put up the points up against uab because uab can score the ball? So I actually have them upsetting houston and heading into that next round and um, you know, I can't like Liv just said it. I can't go against sister jean. I gotta roll with uh, I gotta roll with uh, loyalist chicago as well The one team that I actually have going pretty far is tennessee because I think they should actually be ranked higher than a three seed That was my only coming out of the south. They're coming out of the south for me Kenny chandler is like a stud and I think he we're gonna be talking about him too That's the one thing about march menace that I love the players that we get to see ball out And I think tennessee was disrespected as a three seed So I I definitely think they're gonna do some damage in this region as well Duke, I think it came down to to name brand like you look at every resume possible net ranking quad wins everything can bomb Duke should be a three seed tennessee should be a two seed And I think that definitely is having chip on their shoulders volunteers But it doesn't change the fact that they have a hard hard way to get out Colorado state and even michigan and michigan wins the game puts things together We know they have talent It's going to be tough to get out of there out of the first weekend And then they're going to have to play most likely villanova if things get chalked up Who obviously is probably the most experienced and well thought country well thought team in the country behind jay right And then arizona and the elite they get there who they have beaten earlier this year Um, but I think arizona is a team who's inexperienced and they've developed a crazy amount throughout this season So I think that'd be a completely different matchup So it does suck that they got screwed But I think that's going to be another popular pick because they won the sdc tournament just like iowa But again for good cause and it very very well could happen I feel like it's appropriate to bring up my horn frogs since they are in this region I do have them winning their first game. Um, I I think it's worth talking about do I still think that the frogs have some developing to do? Yes I think they're a very well coached team. I love jayme dixon Mike myles is when he's hot he is electric and he is really really great They also have like a different level they level up during halftime I don't know what kind of gatorade flavor they're drinking but something is working for them because They come out in the second half and they're like a completely different team. Um They're also the healthier team when you're looking at seat and hall versus tcu So I do like them to win that first game and then I do have them losing to arizona as much as it kills me Um, I would love to see them if if that's the part of my bracket that's wrong I don't care. I would love to see them continue to win and play more basketball, but um Tcu has never really been a basketball school So I think kind of what you were saying ryan with that inexperience There's a certain level of intimidation that comes with playing in the tournament And as you progress, I think the teams with more experience are the teams that are going to do better But I do have them win in their first game. So I like them to take down seat and hall I do have arizona beating them after that That's gotta be heartbreaking for you to pen pen. I didn't even pencil that in you probably put it in ink arizona Yeah, no, I I did I did. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I don't know if you probably did on the computer You probably didn't actually write it although you are a writer you do write the notes, right? Because that's what the classic thing is you write you download it on the ipad I write it on the ipad. So you're still technically writing it, right? I am. Yes, but you can always erase it I guess everything on the ipad is pencil. Okay All I have to do is double tap the stylus and then it changes to eraser Ah, damn. Okay at the classic. I remember as a kid, especially I'd print out the bracket always I'd write the teams in as they come on the selection show for whatever reason I did that And then I'd write a whole bracket in pencil and then be able to erase and cross things out I just print it out and then whenever they win, I highlight it. I've been doing that like since I was a kid I just like highlight my wins and count them up. I think air is obviously I'm like packed well biased So I got arizona heading all the way to the national championship And they're a plus 600 and that's a bet that I would take they're long. They're physical They're playing the best basketball right now to win the pack 12 championship They're on a roll right now. It's all about peaking as well when you're in this tournament And I think arizona has peaked really well, but I I I gotta give uh lifts and props I do have tcu beating c in hall as well Like she mentioned mike myles. They got eddie lambton jr. This is a good duo. I really really love this tcu team But unfortunately they have arizona after they take care of the hall. So It's very very tough. So it's it's one of those things where i'm like air I think arizona is just coming out of the south region period and I think tennessee I think bliv did you say you had tennessee coming out of that? So the south region or I have tennessee coming out. I have them. I have tennessee beating Who do I have mom? I think I have yeah, I have tennessee beating arizona and then coming out of the south That's a great that's a great match up arizona and tennessee They played it only in the year. They played it only in the year. It was a really good game It was one of those like I think first like five or six games of the season obviously those are different teams I think like I said arizona inexperience brand new head coach a lot of sophomores in the roster that Didn't really get a lot of pt last year So like it takes time for those things to develop whereas tennessee I think kenny chanler was like supposed to be this freshman one and done guy vmba drab He's kind of come on the scene right away But both teams have changed over time. We'll see I have nova coming out of that region Uh, I said before I'm driving an experience. I think tennessee doesn't Doesn't bruise in the paint amazingly and that's villanova's big weakness and I'll take the I'll take the experience I think they match it well against tennessee And then at the elite eight arizona the one and then villanova the two I just go experience over inexperience. I keep saying it But I think it bodes well and I don't think a first time head coach has gotten to the final four Since 1990 or 89 and I don't know if one has ever won a national championship. So that also makes me fade to arizona a little more so I like that. I you know what with the villanova and tennessee matchup they're actually Those two teams will play really well against each other. They're it's a really good matchup because if you think about it I think I think tennessee had the fourth or fifth Strength of schedule. So they're like, I think yeah, so I think yeah Villanova six tennessee is like fourth or fifth and tennessee can put up points and they're good defensively And they kind of mirror villanova actually so if it is going to come down to experience then Probably villanova has that knob, but tennessee got a lot of you know veteran guys on their squad So I it could go either way for me. That's one. That's one of those games where it's like 50 50 Yeah, it's fair. All right I pulled up the odds for national champion because you guys uh shunt tell you mentioned arizona and we're going through some of the teams If you had for value only not like who you think's going to win Value only is there anyone on here that you look at and you're like, wow, you know what? I think it's worth a flyer at that or even if it's final four. I can pull up final four also Um, but is there anyone you see you're like, wow, that's actually worth a flyer bet to win the entire tournament I'll start actually I want you guys to look at it because I think I have a I think I have a couple I think UCLA I think we talked about the experience they had from last year. It's the same exact team They just added guys. Jaime Hock has been awesome if johnny juzang can really level up. They're going to be very very dangerous I do fear when they have to play against a really good center Although I don't see that as a problem until maybe the elite eight if kentucky gets there also But at plus 3500 behind teams like Iowa and texas tech. I think I'd rather take UCLA UCLA baler game scares me in the sweet 16 But I very well think That UCLA will go in as the underdog and they have nothing to lose and I very if they win that game Then I'll be committed. They can win the national title. So that one in the illinois illinois might lose the first round I I have chat new good half my brackets, but I think illinois could also win the national title and at 50 to one I think it's worth a flyer bet. They're really balanced. They have kofi kober who I don't know if he can be stopped by anybody, but he can be contained only by a couple players in the entire country So those would be my two flyers I like those I I have three and I'll explain each one storyline purposes duke at plus 1700 I think Just you know, they lost that last game against the The tar heels, you know, there's so many different things that like could really make that a cool story Now again, is that how you should pick your bets? No, not But I do think that they that would be a really cool, you know It would be it would be cool. Bay you talked about experience. I think baler at plus 1200 I don't have them in the championship game, but I do think experience wise that could be a good bet And then because I do have ganzaga beating tennessee getting tennessee at plus 2500 Upsetting ganzaga could be really cool. So those are my three value bets, I guess I I think I got a roll with ucla at plus 3500 I think that one Is one of the best bets to take because they do have a johnny's using, you know, they work their last year knocking on the door So I really like this ucla team and I have them beating Yeah, I have them going to the national championship game to be honest with you against arizona I have a full a full pack 12 matchup. I don't know if I'm being yeah, I got a full pack 12 matchup I don't know if I'm being too biased with this one, but I think I think that's a good matchup So I definitely got them also It's hard to not pick baler at plus 1200 because they've been good all year round They've been one of the best teams in the nation, but that jtt injury That's the only thing that's making me be like, do I want to do I want to pick baler with that one? And also you mentioned villanova. I think villanova could also kind of be one of those sleeper squads You know, there are a plus 2000 It's one of those things where if they get past tennessee And I think they're going to be a scary team to be So I would say those those three Yeah, and then while you're at it might as well throw in plus murray state at plus 50 000 because why not might as well Put a dollar on that to win whatever was that 500 right something like that 5 500. We'll take it Yeah, I'll double it for the five dollar wage around murray state to win the whole thing It's like a it's like a shabazz napier ucon seven seed from a few years ago type run they'll have with tevin brown but Who knows now I'll take it to the final four I guess because The final four is like different I think you can You can bet differently because like murray state is actually a sufficeable bet as to win the national championship Is probably not the best thing to do Um, but is there any anyone you guys like here on value? Maybe outside of the top teams that we were talking in terms of value and I can scroll way down because You never know what kind of seed can make it to the final four and the dag is actually the only team That's minus their favored or minus 150 to get to the final four Okay, I'm looking at mine right now. I would say For me, especially for my bracket I'm trying to look and see where the value is for them virginia tech at plus 2500 because I actually Do have them battling it out versus baler so in a really crazy story if they upset baler Plus 2500 is just great value and then The only other one I could think is What is the value for duke because I do have them in the final four But if we're 40 for whatever reason texas tech were to upset duke. I mean, I don't know what they're Yeah, so not not as great I would say virginia tech then for me as the best value if they were to upset baler in my bracket, yeah So I'm going to be a little bit crazy with this one because we're just talking about a value pick and This is the one where when you're looking at the back bracket and you're like, you know I'm just going to make this bet because if it hits it would be crazy So a lot of people, you know that you and see marquette match up I know you and see they you know, they kind of fell short there, but marquette chuckett smart Justin louis This is a team where I think if they can get on a run and you know marquette's a basketball school Like this is a team. They're plus 5,000 But I mean they have they have a tough road But that's just like a crazy bet that I would make just to be like, you know what if I'm looking at the odds They're plus 5,000. They're a really good team. They're really well coached And I think they are going to take down you and see it like I mentioned it's all about a run But they're in a really really tough bracket. I mean they would play baler next and then UCLA But I think marquette could be one of those sleeper squads Because I think they went six and six against the top 25. They drop about like 75 points a game I really like this squad and I think if they get past UNC and I have them getting past UNC in my bracket I think they could be one of those scary teams that a team like baler who's dealing with an injury with jtt doesn't want to see Yeah, I think that's fair and most people will go off UNC Even if they don't know who the players are off of purely name brand I think the most popular like eight over one is north carolina over baler But I think marquette it's a great point like baler won the last championship bit last year with a guy like david on michael They have darryl morsell and marquette the maryland transfer like that's a guy that gets you wins Obviously just knows this is awesome. One that I like is san Diego state. We talked with them earlier I was just gonna say that But almost 2,500 is like, I don't know it's almost like is that enough for the value But I'll stick with it anyway because I do think that the chances are better than that It's interesting that they have providence as a four seed at plus 3,900 I don't think there's a single shot that gets the final four But like add plus 3,900. Is it worth a flyer bet? It might be Um, I wouldn't do it But my last one is colorado state because there are six seed another one that just like they're not getting the value on their seating Yes, they have a really really rough path We just talked about like marquette like johnson said but they play michigan and then tennessee if they get past that David roddy and the team has been good all year. They only have five losses on the entire season They have been good at plus 5,500 I think it's worth a flyer bet and if you put one two or three of these things down and you win And you've been one of them instant instant profit on that value. I think these are some great picks Value wise it's you can't pass it up. Yeah, I love I love san diego state I was gonna say that before I was thinking about it as you said it um For me in my bracket the way that I've got them, you know advancing and whatnot they would just need to Defeat iowa and then defeat auburn and I think crazier things have happened before and when you're that strong defensively Never say never so I think san diego state's another great one I think if they hold if they hold crayton tomorrow night I think if I tomorrow night to under like under 55 points, I'll be fine. I'll be I'll be convinced I'll be great. We're going to the canons game. This is gonna be great And if they be kansas they're going to the final four I'll be honest. I'll say right now If san diego say does be kansas and we are right live they are going to the final four And I'm gonna be mad that I didn't put them even further in my bracket, but it's okay Hey, well, that's why we're gonna sprinkle on them to make the final four because the value is great Exactly, it's where we do it. But like in some groups. I'll definitely take The public bracket I put out is definitely not the same as the one I put in like paid groups because If I'm trying to win money and beat out 50 100 200 other people you need to get get crazy You need to have an eight or seven or an 11 in the final four and you just gotta get right and then there you go so Agreed Yeah, all right. I'm we'll do one last one. We'll pull the elite eight And there's you can't see all the odds in here, but you can pull up any team you want Based on value to me the elite eight because like we said the final four you can start picking at like six seven eight seeds But the elite eight you might be able to start picking at Uh teams that are 10 11 12 seeds and also teams like maybe auburn is one that I pulled up that I think It's actually a good one at basically even odds or providence that you don't think can go to the final four But you think the value is there for the elite eight. Is anyone you guys want to pull up here? Um, I would roll with uh, Murray state. I was just gonna say Murray state. They're plus 1500 I think that's the one that I would definitely take because you know, we talked about it already the way that they're playing Offensively right now. They're unreal. They're coming into this tournament on they're peaking at the perfect time And they're gonna be my Cinderella team this year. So I got Murray state. I would take that just for the odds in that one Yeah, and like if you don't want to go final four or plus 5,500 is still juicy enough to like that's a flyer bet It's exactly one of these. I love it for sure. I think a Loyola, Chicago is one For me as well that could potentially have some value um Oh plus 730 730 It's not that good as you think right? Maybe because yeah, I would think it'd be better. What about houston That's because the sister gene you kidding me. We we thought of this. I know you can't face sister gene 330 You see that's tough because to get out of the first couple games is going to be very very tough then to be Arizona I think it's really about vermont That's one of my little sleepers. Uh, I don't know They're not even on there Oh, they know they know they know That's so hateful. That's so hateful There are vermonts odd. That's so hateful. Where's the mexico state? It's probably the same exact thing or close to it at least 30 That's called 3,900 That's a lot That is a lot. I think richman is one to look at there too. We talk about richman. I think if they beat iowa I'll be heavily convinced that they can keep rolling rolling through no matter who they're playing 1,400 actually isn't amazing for a 12c But they've been playing really well. We met just San Diego state before plus 750 also wasn't great I'd rather take the final four bet And then the other one I brought up auburn because I think auburn's path could be Just like houston's last year when they played all double digit seeds Auburn's path will be jacksonville state. Hope they can win that game And then they'll have usc or miami again. I hope I think they can get past there I think wisconsin is going to be dangerous to go out against colgate first round And then maybe even lsu and iowa state really good defense in the second round And if that happens like houston last year it opens up a really really easy path for auburn to get to the elite And they might lose at the elite eight But those odds that even odds maybe not juicy enough for some people But I think it's a very logical bet and it's not really like this flyer bet. It's one that actually makes sense So that's one that i'll definitely be taking on there I like it. I like that. I love value plays That's right. It's all we're looking for is the value what what makes sense in the brackets, right? But realistically everything is probably going to go wrong. I'd imagine Right. That's why it's called march madness y'all. It's just you get you you can't you can't get your hopes up Yeah, exactly. It's all about busted like I hope my brackets not busted after that day one That's always the worst like after like those morning games and your brackets already busted so Yeah, is there any any other players you mentioned? We mentioned like kennedy chandler david roddy because of that like i'll pull up the score Let's do the score 20 maybe in their first game because I feel like that's an interesting one interesting market We have here any game you want to go to any certain players? You're like, I think they're going to go off in their first game mike myles tcu I definitely think he's going to go off um tyson walker for michigan state isn't playing Um, so that's against davidson. I think that's a good one too But if he was playing I would have said that he would have got off jadie notate from arkansas 20 yeah 20 seems Like a plus 150 seems pretty generous. He scores like 18 or 19 a game already, but I guess I mean why not? I like it. Yeah, I feel like a lot of the guys who always pop off and what they might even lose Like if you remember the two twins who were to twin two brothers who were in oklahoma the groves brothers tanner groves They were on uh, who was last year I figured it was eastern washington in the tournament and they went off one of them scored 30 in the tournament But they lost because these tournament games when your team is down and you're an underdog You kind of just start going and chucking up as much as you can because you you have no choice almost You kind of just got to do what you have to to carry the team even in a losing effort So I think looking at guys like teddy alan is actually even because he is literally a bucket like he said about himself in an interview Um, but minus 102 like I love that. I think he's definitely scoring 20 against uconn even against a good defense And they might lose but I think teddy alan's definitely scoring 20 I can see that what what are the odds for rj. Cole for ucon rj is plus 2 90 That's one that I would take because he's going to be really good on the perimeter So that's definitely one that I would take rj. Cole from ucon because I actually think ucon is going to cause some problems They're tough. They're in tough because they're going to be meeting gonzaga but They're one of those teams where I think if they get on a roll rj. Cole plays well, they could be a little bit scary So I would take that Yeah, I think that's a that's a fair point. It might be it might be a slightly low I feel like ucon always controls the pace of the game pretty well where it might be kind of low scoring But I guess we'll see keegan murray is at minus 360 for iowa. It's actually hilarious because he averages 24 a game against big 10 opponents Walking bucket basically literally a walking bucket shuttles not gonna doubt the big 10 right now keegan murray is good. We're not doing Okay, we're not doing anything else. Oh, you did mention tyler burton You mentioned tyler burton in there 255 like that's pretty good value He's gonna be dropping trays everywhere. I can't forget about murray state. I've mentioned tevin brown earlier tevin brown is gonna fall out. What are What are the odds he has to be on there? I think he's gonna have a huge game I can't find. Oh, you know what they play they do play tomorrow though. I don't know. I can't find We can do to score plus 30. Maybe he'll be on here. That's a good one I feel like kj. Williams is so good though that it's gonna it's gonna limit his opportunities They don't have a ton the more points you go the less players you have the option to bet on Um, but I'd imagine tevin brown is definitely a value bet plus whatever plus four or five hundred because He scores 16 a game, but he also runs their offense and kj. Williams is their leading scorer. So that'd be tough But I do like that a lot I'm looking at to score 30 I mean you might as well go on keegan murray at that point right because the guy literally spent been scoring 30 a game for Half a time brady manic is an interesting one. Maybe 30 is too much for on north carolina But he is so hot and cold when he plays well, they win So they're gonna I feel like maybe they'll game plan him up a little more But plus 1400 to score 30 30s. That's a lot of points. I don't know about that That would be talked about like if he dropped 30. Yeah, that would be like extremely impressive I'm trying to think back to march madness when someone had a 30 performance like that Like what jaylin suns had a crazy performance last year Yeah, I don't know if he's sort of 30 But he probably didn't he probably had like 20 25 like a 25 range, but Like that's the same 30 is not some of you see the tanner groves is a great example And they actually look the same brady manic and tanner groves. They wear the headband With they look like now and then like lumberjacks basically and they just like don't look like they should be there But they just like we said, they're walking buckets. That's what they do Uh, and then I guess the other one like is david roddy mentioned before like he's gonna carry colorado Say they're gonna win and that's a game where if they're chasing or They that he just gets a hot hand like he does many of times. He could just start bullying people and Not stop not stop shooting the whole entire game plus 550 to score 30 Maybe it's not juicy enough for the odds, but I don't hate that. I don't hate it at all Yeah, I also might take like boogie ellis from usc to drop maybe 20 points as well I think he averages about 13 But I actually think this game with usc in miami is going to be extremely close And I think their star has got to come out and play. So I I think boogie ellis might have a good game in that one and of course, uh I see a mobily as well I feel like everyone's on miami for that game. I don't know why I feel like everyone's taking my I'm on you. I know you're on usc packed 12, but I'm on us I didn't even realize how biased I was being in my back bracket, but now that I'm talking about it. I'm like damn They very well, I mean they made a run last year. There's a 16. They went to the lead eight They still have some of that experience the biggest one in isaam mobily, obviously, but um, they could very well make a run They still have andy and feel that andy and feel their coach I know people know this he was their coach if you guys remember the florida golf coach run the dunk city He was the florida golf coach coach after that run gets the usc job They were terrible flips him upside down and brings him to the lead eight last year with evan mobily And I guess he's trying to do the same with isaam mobily. I don't hate that value like Would we talk about experience which auburn doesn't have much of on the roster? Um, I wouldn't hate that going through, but it'll be a tough road for them for sure But all right before we slide Are there any last hot takes on the entire bracket any bold predictions anything you want to tell the people now Before we go to make sure that it was known that you said it and it's gonna happen Uh Colgate's beating wisconsin. There's my hot take I like that. All right I got uab defeating houston uab's got one of the best offenses in the country Conference ufhm's and I got a role with jordan walker. So that's my upset because I know a lot of people got houston going pretty far in their brackets I like that one. Yeah jelly walker is different. He's he's one of those guys actually I feel like we talked about four who He could be a march madness guy because like not a lot of people know about him They're starting to learn about him now as they fill out their brackets and study the teams But he's like a 5 11 guard if he's definitely not six foot in my opinion. At least I don't think he is Um, it's not really an opinion like he's out of the six foot. He's not But I just don't think he is but he can score the hell out of the ball And he if he scores like 30 and they beat houston People are going to be going off about him all over just like you talked about shanttub like guys that just come out of nowhere And that jelly walker is a guy who can definitely do that Um, my big one, I'd say we talked about murray state already My big one is that Everyone loves michigan state because they're michigan state and duke because they're duke davidson is the team to get out of Get to the sweet 16 out of that after the first weekend I have davidson. They're playing 100 miles from where davidson's campus is It's it's half the distance from duke's even and it's really really close. So it's only like an hour hour and a half away It's basically a home game. They're often saws and their experience good chemistry. I am riding with davidson to the sweet 16 Love it Yeah, um, all right It's welcome to march madness or anything can happen You got any special plans for tomorrow at 12 15 during the games Sweat just stress Sweat and stress that's about it sounds about right I'm gonna try to get as many screens. There's only There's only four games can happen at once can be going on I'm gonna try to have two or three screens I feel like it's logical because you can go back and forth on one or two of them So I don't want to overdo it and move all the wiring around in my home. So I'm gonna try to do the three screens just because I got I gotta know what's going on for these bets I gotta know That's fair I feel like three right and you want to watch the early half the game because you need to know who's playing Well, who's hot who's not and what to worry about what not to early on So it's a good point. Um, but best of luck to you guys in your brackets and the whole entire tournament But I feel like the first weekend is everything because you're gonna everyone gets a final four elite 18 out in the first weekend But I hope you guys don't experience that. I know I will be experiencing that probably tomorrow when one of my teams loses on the first day Um, but all power to you guys. I hope you guys are the best weekend my favorite time of the year Uh, and yeah, good luck in all your picks Thanks you too, ryan Good luck guys. It should be fun. Yeah. See you