 Hello beautiful people, I'm Peter Dias and today's topic is The Great Resignation. The pandemic really disrupted our way of life, didn't it? For a lot of us, it also gave us an opportunity to question or at least think about how we have been living and working before the pandemic. We may have been rushing to work, doing our daily routine of jobs, taking care of the family, taking care of the kids, taking care of the mortgage, their house and we may not have put a lot of thought about our personal well-being. We may not even have had time to ask ourselves, does my life, pre-pandemic, really align with or support my personal goals and visions? Am I living the life that I want to live? And I believe this is the reason behind The Great Resignation. You may be seeing it in real life too. People quitting their jobs or moving to remote jobs, part-time jobs, changing careers, changing partners in some cases, anything except going back to their old way of life. This is why when I heard that our friends Udo and Karen had moved into a camper van and were loving their new lifestyle, I knew we had to go and check it out and I wanted to share it with you too. So let's go and take a look at their amazing luxury camper van and find out how they have made it all possible. And most importantly, we want to know from a mental world TV perspective, I want to know what has it meant for their overall well-being. So Amy and I are off today on a road trip to Tarifa to meet with Udo and Karen and ask them all these questions and check out their camper van. So come and join us. Cheers everybody. Cheers. Cheers. Thank you. Thank you for having us. We're looking forward to meeting up and having a conversation. I mean, we know a little bit of your story, but we will pretend that we know nothing. So people at home, they can actually go with you on the journey. So I guess if we start at the beginning, you were from what I gather, you were in front of a beautiful lake in Germany. Yes. In a beautiful house. Yes. And you left it to go wandering in a beautiful camper van, but a lot smaller than a house I imagine. How did that decision come about? It was always, we always travel, people who travel a lot. So Australia, US, everything. I was normally, we were traveling like 180 days a year, mainly in planes and hotels. But then, yeah, we came across actually, we were doing in Australia with RV, little holidays, and we realized that's pretty cool. And if we could transfer that to use with our business as we have a team, sales team like worldwide, and being able to not be stuck into one place. And that's why we said, okay, how we can bring additionally our business on the road and go where our people are, but also where nice places are and work from there being mobile, and not being, I think, a nomad, what your digital nomad, which always sound is a little bit like seeing that you stay in hostels and you have to figure around your, so we have our house, our tiny house, what it is, 25 square meters, more or less, with us. How long was it between the initial conversation about maybe we should do this to actually getting in and driving away? So it was two points. The first point that we said, let us try something by traveling, not with a car, with a camper van. So we rent some nice... Obese, yeah. Obese and camper vans and then... You rented them first. Yeah. Rent. You see land in Australia to see how it is to feel it. Is it what you think about it? Right. Yeah. An option for the car, traveling, plane, hotel, in and out things. So it wasn't an emotional decision, just it wasn't like an, I feel like doing this, I'm doing it straight away. It was always... It was really planned out, thought out, tested first. I'm just thinking about people that are trying to make that decision. They need to think it, they need to test it first and see what works for them. I think it was a little bit the other way around. We did it in Australia because I left to be with my kids and also there and we worked and we built team there and so we traveled from city to city and we thought, okay, we want to have something which looks like a yacht feeling a little bit as well, like the leather and the light colors. In the past, our v's were very dark, like 17s colors. Yeah, they were. Yes, they were very dark. And this is completely different and it needs to be versatile so that we can use it for different things and setups and we had to check out how we can actually arrange our office. We have to try different things. And but that was the decision really and then it was pretty fast to say, okay, and now we just buy it and actually we flew, we flew to Malaga for a conference and Karin had to make the decision to sign for it and it was just when all that not traveling started and then we had to wait for eight months, nine months to get it. Or you could get it. So what are the pros and what are the cons? The pros was for me really to have the feeling that every time I want I can travel, I have my business with me, my clothes, my cosmetics, all with me, not to match, not to package luggage and we can drive wherever we want. It was really the feeling of freedom, the feeling of we can go every time, maybe it was two hours to make something in the fridge and something like that. And you have everything that you need. You have everything there, so you are prepared and you can go and it was really the mixture of adventure and business and... But when it rains and she does a video like you do, like lives or zooms for two, three hours, I have to be somewhere and I can't be outside, it's raining and you're not always have the facilities around that you can go into a bar or so, so that's why it's important to have two sections, two full sections for us because it's our office actually, where you're sitting is our office. Your office, your mobile office but with a view, you know we had before this mobile office where I could go and rent an office in Australia or in US or whatever, but that would be in a city. Yeah, you know you can go anywhere you want. Maybe we just stand on the beach and if you have things to do, you just park the van somewhere nice with a good view, which is also very creative. It's public spaces. She did so many videos. The view is also if you drive, it's completely different if you drive in a car than you drive in a car because you have like a helicopter, sometimes Udo drives and I sit here and work and I have to completely view while traveling. She's like in an S-Class at the back and she's looking around and has her driver which I own, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Listening to you speak though, I mean we're all about mental health and well-being and it sounds like every decision has been in line with even the light colours because that feels good. It's a nice space to be in and it's going to enhance your quality of life, your well-being. Every decision has been made with those priorities, those values in mind. People are thinking about making a move like this, it might not be as nice as this camper van but something that if they're going to be working remotely, most people are thinking about working remotely, at a practical level, how are you finding working remotely? How are you finding issues around or challenges around internet connection, for example? How do you find in that? So for us it was really important that we have Wi-Fi. Yes, of course, otherwise you can't work remotely. So we have a small one for the beach, a router for the beach, so that we have that we find. So where is that? It's in my beach bag now. Oh, so you have a little router that runs? Yes, a room and we test it in New Zealand and Australia that it works and then also when we know, okay, you can make videos wherever I want with live videos and we have a router here, so that's everything. Did you put a normal router as well? Yes, a normal router we have at home but with a SIM card. With a SIM card? And now I have a Spanish SIM card in so that we have more data. Just a normal SIM card goes into the router and then it works like that? The little one doesn't have a, it connects with all the different networks worldwide but it doesn't have enough data for like our big Zoom or something because we have like a few hundred people Zoom, so you need data connection and then we have that router and we put in local SIM cards for more speed. But then that helps with the speed? Yeah, normally in most of the camper places there's not enough. So you're buying SIM cards everywhere you go locally so you can have the extra speed? Yeah, more or less. I mean the Spanish one works in Germany too. The reason why I'm asking this is because it's very important if people are thinking of working remotely that the speed is important. Yeah, it's also that you change how you want to do those things so we started, I started was making Zoom with a laptop and then we say okay you have Wi-Fi but that's not so strong maybe you know it in Germany and to say okay if it's like that I changed it from laptop to iPhone. I may be very emotional and say I want to get out so I can live in a tent but for how long? This is not an emotional decision, it has to be thought out. So with that... What's been the biggest challenge perhaps the one that took you by surprise about living in this way? The biggest challenge is you have to understand it's not like a flat. It's not like it's more like a house because I grew up with when my grandmother said if you have a house you make at the end of the garden if you are finished there you can begin at the front yeah if you have a house you have like that yeah everything on the day you have to do yeah because it's yeah you have to move on you have to you have choice that's what you mean and do you think it's a small place yeah and you think it's a car but it's not a car it's like more than a house because you have everything every day something to do to look at the water maybe water levels electricity maybe something is broken yeah the rain is coming and it's not only outside maybe it's coming to the windows or there's a leak something every day so it's not seamless it's there's something gonna happen all the time you have to learn like engineering to be able to not in engineering but I am very proud that he is an engineer but you need a partner who said okay there is something not a problem but there is something today I don't know before and I have to handle it so if you're not resilient you shouldn't do these lifestyles basically yeah yeah if you don't if you if you have to be adaptable you have to be adaptable you have to be resilient you have to be able to and it's a mixture between adventure yeah and fire stars it's really always and and we'll think yeah and it's not gonna go smoothly there's gonna be things that come out exactly in the moment when you when you think everything is fine now you're standing then power is off or water or something is clocked and it's not like it's not like a house uh because the installation is movable what's been how's the experience been for the relationship we tested why we ran um so you had already tried that uh ran a caravan a van a camper van and we see that our relationship is getting better on small space because you have to speak about the problems and you can't say oh I go to my flat yeah I go out so I go in the office I'm today in the office and tonight out of the situation you have to go through the situation right so you have to speak about okay I need no space for me and see what it makes with me or I guess swimming but then you come back and speak about that and that is an illusion for us the relationship to speak about that and you have to value freedom above all else because it may not always be comfortable yeah but it will always be free you know yeah yeah so freedom and transformation like personal development is very very high on your value list as well if you don't like it uh that you if you said I'm perfect I want to make any steps in my life you don't know it's not so easy because you you have this relationship with the business with all the things coming up you you should like it that you make the next step yeah I'm like oh wow and you are grateful in the relationship to handle it and say yes we rock it yeah yes we fixed it yes we can drive and you gotta celebrate celebrate but you got cheated so for a person of will wouldn't usually would be a couple or a family thinking about living with a living and change their life a little bit like you've done but it may not be exactly a van it may be in a house somewhere else what advice in hindsight would you give them what would you tell them to think about both things you can think about it but if you think about it it's not like you feel from heart about it so we coming from feeling it and make a decision make it happen so if you have a feeling of something to change try it and see what is the try it is a key yeah try this is really you can't think about it because it's really different if you do it and if you feel it so like test it test it I don't know that it can be 25 degrees here was windy and it's not warm enough for me so don't go don't go to the boss fuck off I'm never coming back to work before you test that is a completely other decision if you don't like your work yeah but about the feeling of travel is is it emotionally on your heart can you feel it really decision to set my job is going away and I look how I travel now how where where can I stay it's another thing yeah and that is really to allowing the the emotion from the heart and then that okay if I feel that let us speak about that what can we do something else is coming up for me as you speak I'm thinking about this moving making a move like you make is not a solution to a problem you didn't make this move because you were so depressed no you make this because you appreciate freedom and you love travel it's very different to I'm so depressed at work I need to change yeah if you're depressed go and get therapy yeah don't do this definitely I mean this is a therapy as well but in a different way yeah and I think what we do is we we love we love the job we're doing and we love to work but it's additionally and we don't exclude things so we still go into hotels we were the other day four days in Coneel in a beautiful hotel and also we have our free time she she flies away to do business be in conferences I stay on or I move actually I picked her up once in Paris with the camera and then I brought her border back to the airport a few weeks later she flew away and she came back to here to Malaga and so so and I was in between on my own working from here so it's not an exclusion is an add-on and we have the business before the business was there so we have it almost six years so and the camper van now two years as the business was before there and then we think about oh how is the motion to make it add on and you were not solving a problem you were adding to your life yeah we want to be moved we don't want to be sitting in an office and working from somewhere maybe in winter like when it's cold and snowy she doesn't like it so we thought how we do that do we rent an office somewhere do we rent a house but we want to be mobile and we want to move follow the sun again and so we and now we can choose where we stay so it's not the brochure no the reality is not the brochure the brochure no one of the things I'm hearing though is instead of sitting saying I wish I could I wish I could it's how can I yeah I've heard you use the how words so many times how do okay this is all that how do I how do I that problem-solving approach rather than sitting still saying I wish well one thing I wanted to say is also our products fit fit of course perfectly because they're organic they're natural biologists so all natural products and actually on the camping grounds and wherever you go everybody every one is a customer a potential customer for our stuff for for good health but it's all natural all like out of plans and natural and it can help everybody to bring the body back in balance and we'll put your website your link thank you in the description so people they can contact you I talk to you and they can you know the questions so you're you're looking at well being from all angles well being well being from every every aspect if they have any questions about which camper van to yeah you're the expert because you've thought about it I've never seen anybody that has thought about it so much yeah as you we learned we had our experience the details on camper vans if you want to mix it if you really have your your skills if you think about or have so many uh uh steps in my life and how can I do now put all that in a box like a new person so and one learning is also you don't need this stuff you have because here you're limited in space you can't take everything so you have to choose wisely what you take and you realize uh this is like on you're going on a hike and just having a backpack you have limited space you can't take a carry everything and what you really need and what you don't need you will realize things what you don't need and things you really need and that that's also an experience and you in especially in our very commercial world that you have too much stuff at home and you don't need it if you didn't touch it for a while just survive just don't need it and that's the point and and you can still be dressed nicely and have fresh clothes but you don't need uh fifth or whatever five meters of cupboard two meters or one and a half and that's enough so ladies if you're thinking about moving you're not going to have as much wardrobe space so think about that very very carefully well thank you very much that was a very very useful conversation Karin Udo thank you for having us in your home and showing us around yeah and I'm sure people will will ask you questions and please let us know in the comments if you want to say something to Udo and Karin for thank you very much and hospitality thanks thank you any questions to ask or conversation please do so in the comments and we will also put your link on the description so if they want to send you a message or talk about yeah want to find out about your business or your lifestyle or camper vans or anything else they can do so how do you 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