 It is really a pleasure to be back here at Indigio Live at this live event. After a year of forced break, the meeting point of the worldwide geospatial community is finally live again. It's great to see so many of you here in the Hanover exhibition halls, visiting the booths of more than 250 exhibitors, attending the exciting presentations at the expo stage, or listening to the cutting-edge lectures and keynotes at the Indigio conference. And Indigio TV is broadcasting live for you from the event on the digital platform. So thanks for joining us. The conference started successful this morning with the opening and the keynotes. My colleague Günther Knappe met the president of the organizer dvw Hans-Jörg Kutterer at noon today for an interview. And directly afterwards, I had the pleasure to talk to Thomas Haring, president Hexagon Geosystems and CIO Leica Geosystems about the anniversary and 100 years of innovations from Herbrook. So watch the interviews now. Professor Dr. Hans-Jörg Kutterer, president of Indigio's organizer dvw. Welcome in the Indigio TV studio. Professor Kutterer, the conference reflects the Indigio motto, inspiration for a smarter world in all its facets. Let's talk about the program and about changes and challenges for the geospatial community. Thank you for the opportunity to be in here and I really have to admit that I'm very glad to be in Hanover on-site. It's a great experience this year. And yeah, inspiration for a smarter world is, let's say, setting the guideline for the next decade. It's really a strong topic. We have to work with inspiration means that we need to get the mindset to understand and to do all the things and then, of course, we have to talk about the smarter world. Smartness is technology on the one hand, but it also affects our life in society in public and professional life. And this is one of the most challenging topics for our community, for the geospatial community for the next years. And so it's really necessary that Indigio takes care and really provides an opportunity, a platform, a forum to get informed, to get involved and really to discuss. As we can see here in Hanover, the expert as well at the conference shows that the experts, on the one hand, as you, like you, on the other hand, and the industry is on a good way. You see it the same way? Yeah, I think it's a good place to be. I think it's a really good decision to connect the digital world and the real physical world to have a hybrid meeting here at this site. That's very important. And although the pandemic has set us a lot of restriction, I think it's also an opportunity which we have to see together with a lot of challenges. And there are lots of problems to be solved, but nevertheless we did it for this year. And so it's a new kind of Indigio which is going to be developed and we will see how this is accepted and of course it's necessary for us to get the feedback but also to get our own impression how such an event can be hosted, can be operated and will be accepted. So we are looking forward to seeing how the Indigio works in this different setting, but from a point of view there are a lot of benefits to be in a digital format because it's independent of geographic position. It doesn't matter where you are, of course when you are, if it's nighttime it's a little bit problematic, but in daytime it works quite well. If you attend such a meeting, of course you have the personal meeting, the opportunity to meet colleagues and long-term professional friends, of course. And what we also have is with the digital format to keep, to save, to store the events, the information and what's the core of such an expo and conference. We have on the one hand the Indigio stage that reflects a lot of the topics you mentioned already. On the other side there is the DVW conference. We already also mentioned let's stay with this with the program. It's on a very, very high standard, but maybe you can tell us some highlights from your perspective. I'm happy to do that. So we of course are really involved in digitalization. So we talk about digital twins, for example, about BIM building information modeling. This is a very important topic. What I really appreciate to see is that digitalization is also visible in land management, for example. In real estate valuation, we talk about digital process of participation for participants. This is one really impressive field and it shows that we also have to talk about digital workflows in the future much more than we did in the past. If we look at technology, for example, it's about mapping our environment, using UAVs, unmanned aerial vehicles. It's about laser scanning. It's about radar technologies. It's about autonomous systems and robotics, which will do this more and more in future. I think it's really challenging. I would also like to address the positioning component, which we have a couple of sessions and presentations in the context of positioning, using global navigation satellite systems. There are still a lot of developments which are interesting for us. And of course, like we have in our motto, the smarter world, smart cities. Smart cities are becoming more and more feasible. They are no longer an abstract idea, but they are really a tool for administration and beyond. So 21 is the first in the geo physically. We stand here and we see all the people meeting again. It's also the beginning of a new decade. So let's have a look into the future. We'll be talking about autonomous drones, robotics. KI is a keyword. So what you see coming in the next 10 years. I think that's it. In a more classical picture, you had the typical surveyor going outside with his instrument, doing his job. This has been optimized to a significant extent. And I think this will continue. If we think of laser scanning, for example, huge amounts of data in a very short time, there was also already a lot of integration of these different fields. But with the new amount of data, with the new kind of data, it's getting more and more complex. And we need to deal with it. We need to handle it. And their artificial intelligence and machine learning come in to support our work more than it was done before. I think it's a step comparable to the automation, digitization in classical surveying instruments. Now it's more about data which we have to deal with and work processes which we need to organize. And I think this is one of the topics for the next decade to get also the work process digital that you can map it, model it on the computer and then organize them, optimize them in a much better way. I think this is one part of what we will be involved in. It's more about technology. And we also have to speak about tasks. And there are a lot of societal challenges. Look at the flooding in Germany, for example, this year. There are a lot of tasks also from the geospatial community which need to be solved in the pre-warning, alerting part but also in dealing with the natural hazards and to improve the situation for all people involved. There are lots of things to be done with geospatial data and I think that there will also be developments to have clear and reliable processes. And this leads us to a third component and the final one which I want to mention here. This is interdisciplinary. That's what we learned in terms of the data. We as a community have a strong expertise but we cannot do the things on their own. Neither can do the other disciplines. So we also have to cooperate, collaborate in a closer way and this means that we also need to get in touch, better in touch with the communities and try to speak the same language. This is a challenge but I am very confident that we will cover it and manage it during this decade. Prof. Dr. Hansjörg Kutterer, president of the DVW I think it's not only the two of us that are looking forward to this exciting in the GU days in Hannover. Thanks for joining us. Thank you very much. So welcome Thomas Haring, president Hexagon geosystems and CO Leica geosystems part of Hexagon. Great to have you here. So how are you and how is the feeling right now after one year-first break due to Corona? Thanks Denise, it's great. It's great to be at the Intergeo back. My 18th Intergeo and I really missed it. So it's much more than an exhibition or conference. It's meeting the community and that's what I enjoy. That's interesting. It's my 10th Intergeo this year. So Thomas, but you're celebrating around the birthday this year with Hexagon. Namely it's 100 years of innovation in Herbrok and therefore I would like to briefly explain what Herbrok is to our visitors, if you don't know. Herbrok is located in Switzerland and is the headquarter of Leica geosystems and Hexagon geospatial and is an essential component of the Hexagon Technology Group and you started exactly a century ago in 1921 as Heinrich Wilde Werkstätte für Feinmechanik und Optik and Herbrok was repeatedly being the source of a major innovations. So we'll have a look at this, 100-year history of innovation. So Thomas, usually success stories of technology or innovation companies start in a garage or a shed for example, like Apple, right, the software gates and so on. So was it the same with the story of Herbrok? Yeah, it was a small house and that's if you're coming to a book right now you would see because we put it on one of our buildings and in Hannover, if you are at the Geo in Hannover you could go outside in the outdoor field and there we have built something up as well to show you a little bit how the house looked like when Heinrich Wilde started back in 1921. Yeah, this is great and we also got some pictures of your booth and some video footage. This is why also our visitors right now can see the little shed there, how it started. Beautiful Herbrok, yes. This is great. So your claim at the Geo is 100 years of innovation from Herbrok and so what role did innovation play in the company history and what role does innovation play today? I think in human sentence where we easy to answer in the past innovation was very important when Heinrich Wilde started, now it's essential and we are known for innovation and that innovation spirit is deeply entrenched in our organization. But maybe one comment on that, it was not Heinrich Wilde alone, but together with Robert Helbling and Jakob Schmidt-Heini it was really a team which made it happen. I think that's something which we do today as well, developing things in a team because we depend on all our people and we're not celebrating 100 years of Herbrok only, we are celebrating all the thousands of people worldwide which have been with us on the journey which is not over because the journey continues. Yeah, and you help them with your technologies and make life easier and easier to handle. Correct, and they help us to really further develop it. Yeah, perfect. Can you give me examples of these game-changing innovations in the company history? Maybe you can look at the T2, the famous T2 which was really a setting grounds foundation for modern surveying. It really is a great optic mechanical total station theodolite at that time and it was, I'm not sure how many years it was in the market, I have forgotten many, many years and you can come to our booth and see it live there and it's interesting, I had a discussion earlier this morning with somebody who said, I'm still using it for training some of my people. Oh really, that's still in use. It was fantastic, our quality lasts forever, that's perfect. That's a great example. So looking back at the company history which one is your favorite product and why? I'm sure you understand that I really can't answer that. Because of the huge amount of innovations. But in general I think it's important to look at the different technologies that you have further developed. Total station technology, it's fantastic what we have done out of that from the woods dating back 100 years. GNSS over 40 years, where we have the GS18i fantastic product, we have radar technology which is 20 years ago in scanning technology which we show in our booth as well. These fantastic new products, BLK arc and BLK to fly. And then maybe a smaller one, a personal thing, a small product like Alino L2, which is not such a famous product. It was one product which we launched 16 years ago. Simple line laser but with a really nice design. And that's something I think we have seen over so many years how important design is in addition to technology. Thank you very much for summarizing that and you just mentioned some of the new technologies, the BLK arc to go into fly. We just already saw here at your booth. And yeah, you just looked a bit in the past and summarized this, but can you also get a glimpse of the future? So where's the company heading to? Oh, if you would know, of course we know our strategy, our vision, our purpose because we are as passionate as Heinrich Wilt has been 100 years ago. We are heading towards a more autonomous future and what does it mean? We are really trying to utilize the data. We are good in capturing data. We are good in preparing data for work and we have more and more applications for customers to put their data to work in all the different areas they are acting in together with the customers to solve their problems whether it's surveying, whether it's other industries. And we are interested to learn more about customer problems. So if somebody has an interesting application, interesting problem where he needs support, please come to our booth, talk to the experts. Maybe you don't talk to me, I'm not the expert of everything here, but I will find you the right person to talk to. Okay, I think people will do so. We just mentioned in a sentence that there is a BLK ARC to go. It's named like that, yeah. For me, it's the hidden champion, the social media star because it's kind of a dog who's walking there and I saw so many people taking their mobiles and making screenshots of it on photos, pictures and I saw it on Instagram already. It's kind of a hidden champion, a little star. Hopefully not the hidden champion, but you are absolutely right. The video is super star and it's fantastic what the BLK ARC does and what kind of solution it now offers, that we have really a real reality capture device on top of the famous boss dynamic spot. It's fantastic. But another superstar is the BLK to fly, like a BLK to fly and unfortunately we can't fly it at the booth inside, but I really would like everybody to ask for a demo that we can show you how it really works because it's a flying sensor. It's not the UV, it's a flying sensor. That's something we are very proud of as well, what the team achieved there. It's always great to see this innovation coming out. Perfect. And trust me, there's much more on the roadmap. Okay. So Thomas, thank you very much for having us, having you here in our interview TV show and polling party of interview 2021. And giving us these insights into 100 years of innovations made in Herbrook. You are a company that combines traditional innovation in the best tense. So thank you very much for that. Thanks a lot. We try to give our best. And looking forward to the continuous discussions with our customers and of course with the interview team. Thank you very much. Enjoy the interview. Thanks a lot. See you soon. So the concept of interview is hybrid. That means that you can stream lectures from the expo and the conference, but you can also visit the exhibitors. And my colleague Lena Pois shows you how it works and it takes you on a virtual expo tour. Leonard. Yes. Thank you Denise. I will visit Bandlase Systems now. Bandlase Systems is a global provider of software solutions for engineers, architects, geospatial professionals and designers. And now I will join into their digital booth. So we will meet here in the room 3 and we can say hello to our friends from Bandlase Systems. Can you hear us? Hello? Yeah. Okay. Perfect. So how was your first day here at InterGio? Very good. Nadine, can you? Yes, sure. Yes, it was good. We had some good conversations, some good questions coming in from the visitors. Yeah, for tomorrow we have some more visitors who will be coming in. We have already scheduled some meetings and we also had a presentation today at the expo stage, smart city solutions. So that was very good. And look forward to day 2 and day 3. That sounds good. I have not had the opportunity to come here. Otherwise I have been always to InterGio. It is a sad year that I am not there. So the hybrid concept is perfect for you because you are now at InterGio and you are not in Hanover. So it will definitely benefit for you. That's good. So please tell me something about your daily when you are not on the InterGio hybrid. Yeah. Maybe to say a few words about Bentley that we are a large global software company provides software and services advancing infrastructure. So we work with everything that helps the society to work better and also addressing sustainability and other aspects of efficient from early phases of planning planning design and also the building and the construction of infrastructure and operation. So we work with all the sectors and help asset owners and cities and also engineering companies and consultants to implement projects and to run business. So you talk a lot about the economics and the boarding of cities so my personal highlight of Bentley was the OpenFlow program. Can you tell me something about this thing, this software solution? Yeah. So the water segment is very important area in Bentley and addressing the sustainability and also the resilient that many of the cities experience today the climate change and the flooding and etc. So a range of water products they cover everything from the design of water systems to supply water and drainage and sewage etc. And also the operation. So we have real-time sensors and building a digator twin out of the water system and how it relates to the city infrastructure. So that is one of the products we have on display in the booth. And of course very much a center around the eye twin the digator twin of an operation very much a center around creating a reality we have products for creating mesh models etc and handling point cloud data etc. So very much managing data and to analyze and put those into context of a digator twin but also the engineering side the bin models also to be synced into a common infrastructure together with the GIS information etc. So it's a combined combination and integration of different informations into a combined integrated digator twin model. That sounds super interesting but putting all this in different information into each other and figure out some models to build more better in the future is definitely a great thing when I think about the climate change and all the other problems we are looking forward to into the next years. So Nannette as part of the new digital sales team of Bentley by Tuosity can you tell us how are you helping architects designers, engineers and all kinds of onboard microstation other Bentley software and deliver successful projects? Sure Nannette My job is not the most thrilling one maybe in Bentley because my main job is to cover the sales in EMEA for microstation but microstation is the cat basis for all the open products that Bentley is producing that means microstation technology is included in open floors, open ground open bridge, open roads they are all based on microstation so at the end we cover a lot of different varieties or we take care for a lot of different varieties of engineers of all color and in the digital sales unit that has been created last year we started selling an annual subscription in addition to the existing perpetual license program and together with the annual subscription we always include free expert services with the product for this very first year and that means we have experts for the product in our user success team and they are there to serve the customers with their knowledge and they can always rely on these user success people to get help whenever they need it and in terms of digital twins it's always a good starting point let's say that way if you start with microstation because as I said as a cat basis for all the other products it's the first step on your journey towards a digital twin because without cat you cannot design a digital twin and in addition to that and I'm more or less through what we invented and new also for the customers is that we increased our social selling activities that means we are having life sessions in regular terms that are really life that means no prepared power points we have an expert for the product that talks about special topics that address the user's challenges the user's daily challenges that they have in their daily workflow and we're grabbing out all the time such little topics create a blog post for that and have a life session on that and this was covered by additional webinars to dive deeper into the topic so that means we really try to give them a whole experience of what they need to be successful with their daily work but this is all digital because it's the new digital sales team of Ben's and then I can book for example an expert session and then I get all the information that you told me correct and this is not only for microstation this is for all the varieties that we sell we have a website you can order each software directly through the website each license includes a certain amount of training sessions or project help sessions whatever you want to call that and you can just reach out to your user success manager and then arrange a day time when you meet virtually and you get the help that's definitely cool and makes it way easier to work with all these software things and all kind of new solutions I think and what are you expecting the next days we already talked about that you have tomorrow a few more dates with experts some presentations so if you want to tell the intergear community something that they can expect when your digital booth the next two days the stage is yours so give me a few last words for my point of view we have lots of experts life through this virtual reality that attend so whenever you have a certain problem just reach out to the welcome reception ask for the topic that you are interested in and we easily able to bring the expert directly to your meeting room that's for my part and also if I can add in as well I mean we have also showing other aspects of the digital twin also for the digital infrastructure and for construction and civil design we have a lot of products and solutions that we are presenting in the booth we are happy to receive any visitors and to explain what it can provide as a value as well as the latest from the use spatial or the reality modeling portfolio for handling creating a reality mesh of the reality and point cloud handling etc so we have a lot of interesting stuff to show and we are excited to meet you or in the booth then I wish you all the best for the next two days and a bunch of new visitors in your digital booth and I will talk to you tomorrow and we'll check out and talk with a few of the other experts and yeah I will say goodbye and we will go back to Denise thank you for having us thank you thank you Lennart for showing us how it works with the virtual tool this was very interesting and it looks quite easy it's definitely super easy to join the digital expert booth I think it's Sergurt with all these travel restrictions and so we are here in Hanover we can feel the whole expo area but it's still possible for people all over the world to feel the intergeal feeling without being here in Hanover yeah this is why the concept of intergeal is hybrid so thanks Lennart okay so find out now which highlights you definitely shouldn't miss on Wednesday at 5pm at the expo stage you can experience the revolution of the precision agriculture with Nicoletta Getscheva and already at 20 minutes past 1pm you will experience intelligent and automated road design with smart in from modeling technology with Marius Reuters all that in the expo and in the conference in the BIM session at 11am here valuable and simple use cases to secure infrastructure knowledge with Lisa Wolf and of course you will discover numerous solutions and products from the exhibitors that will help you to solve your problems or show you new approaches so we hope that you enjoy intergeal oh and we have some more impressions to finish that day so please enjoy now with the latest impression of the first day of intergeal 2001 this was intergeal tv on the live stream today for you here at the digital platform live from the exhibition hall see you tomorrow at 9am bye