 You're welcome again. It's the breakfast, the mindset Monday edition of the program and I am Maureen. I am Nyam Gul. It's so glad, we're so glad to know that you're still there watching us. You watched the president's speech and we also know a lot of things that are on the headlines. We are going to try to touch a little bit on the headlines that are not the president's speech, so to speak, and every other thing that we need to say. But there are bullet points from the president's speech that would like our guests to also analyze when we are doing off the press and looking at the headlines. Okay, so you want to start with the headlines? That is what it's going to be. Okay, let's go to the headlines now and see what is being said. I know that some of them prepared these headlines before the president spoke, but Tirugu Sik's sacrifice as calls for good governance hides him, that is on what he said on Democracy Day. That is from the leadership. We're starting with the leadership this morning. The leadership newspaper leads with Tirugu Sik's sacrifice as calls for good governance hides him. We also have Tenth National Assembly, Appabio Faces Yari on Tuesday, Koskler for Abbas. Okay, Serapsu's federal government over missing $2.1 billion, $3.1 trillion Naira subsidy payments. Police arrest bandits, logistic supplier in Abuja. Okay, we have other smaller headlines. $3 billion Naira spent on Nigeria Air, Syrica. Trump's slums, indictment charges, okay, that is foreign, but indictment charges at Campaign Trail. So some things happening in Nigeria are also happening outside this country. Leadership newspaper there for you. We'll move to another one. All right, from there, we move to the punch newspaper. And right in front of the punch newspaper, you have Court Stops, EFCC, ICPC, DSS for my arresting Yari. And so you also have Democracy Day, Tinnubu Hills, MKU, Abiola, promises to ease subsidy removal pains. And then you have DSS seizes a mirthless passport, Plans Home Office Search. You have details of that one on page nine of the punch newspaper. And that's the much I've taken from the punch. Okay, we'll move to the nation. The nation newspaper leaves with June 12th while we must defend our democracy by Tinnubu. And it has some writers there expect better deal from me. Judicial reform has started. Abiola's sacrifice should not be in vain. We also have Shetima's last-minute push, swing support for Aqabao Abbas. And My Nigeria Air Story by Ex-Minister Sirika, okay. Ministry got only an extended amount of money. The lawmaker asked for 5% shares in Nigeria Air, okay. That will be all from the nation this morning. We'll have another one before we leave. A mirthless exit and the fireworks before suspension. People are interested in a mirthless story, so you can read that up on the nation. Okay, from the nation we go to the Daily Trust. Daily Trust leads with Bear with Me, Democracy Day, Bear with Me on Subsidy Removal, Tinnubu Tells Nigerians. The writers there promises investments in power, transportation, healthcare, others. Pays tibu to Abiola, Irodoa, others. Use games to deepen Nigeria's democracy. IBB, Atiku, OB, React. All right, so above the masthead you have speakership. Betara, Gaji stepped down for APC's Abbas. Kano government resumes demolition of illegal structures. Subsidy removal, road transportation costs compete with airfares. Yeah, I saw a visit from someone who traveled to Benin from Lagos. And it was 22,000 Naira from Benin to Lagos. That was the last week. I don't know how much it is this week. A year or so ago or two years ago, that was airfare from Lagos to Abuja or Lagos to Kalaba. But now it's transportation by road that's not even safe. Well, that's the much we can take from the newspapers. And we will be joined by our guest that will be helping us to x-ray these and also the things that were said by our president, Bola Akme Tunebou this morning. We are going to be joined after this short, very short break, hopefully by in Kottaria, Punebo in Kottaria, political affairs analyst from River State. Just let's take a short break and show you what the weather is saying. You're welcome back. I did tell you that we're going to be joined by Punebo in Kottaria, a political affairs analyst in River State talking with us. We need to visit what has been said on the press. But more of these things have been spoken by the president this morning. So we'll be addressing both of them. Paripasu is the word that we really liked. Okay, in Kottaria, Punebo in Kottaria, political affairs analyst from River State. Good morning and welcome to the program this morning. Good morning, I got you. Good morning, Maureen. Good morning. Good morning, next week. Yes. You're welcome. Maureen just said the days of Illuna, Algeria and South Korea now we have something else. You listened to the broadcast of the president this morning. We'd like to have your general take before we go into specifics. The normal rhetoric is synonymous with presidents whenever they are delivering speeches on days like this. But I'm not going to honest to some extent. I think I'm a little bit impressed with save the subsidy with the president's approach to things. I think it seems to be a little bit in a hurry to ensure he gains legitimacy considering the very fraudulent election that produced it. And of course, really Nigerian is quite aware of the problems we are facing and the yearnings of the people. So I'm talking of the issue of the MFLA, his quick response to burning issues such as the meetings with the labor unions and so on. Where he got it wrong was the subsidy. It has nothing to do with whether subsidy ought to be removed or not. It has to do with the timing and the procedure. He was even the one who said there was no subsidy. And God had come to vindicate the likes of good luck. Jonathan and I, they all demonized. That was when the dissidents had even led the protests to say there was no subsidy to the fraud. Yes, it was a fraud, but the issue is this. A fraud in what sense? Is it a fraud because you had a cocktail managing the oil sector? Or is it a fraud because the issue of subsidy was just a special reason to steal money? He has come to realize that, yes, the government was actually paying subsidy because I subsidizing the oil industry, but it is being managed, controlled by Qatar. So good government has been vindicated. That is one aspect of it. But we are a little bit worried. It was like maximizing the minimum and minimizing the maximum. What you would have done was to, first of all, come up with palliatives. You know, you have to palliate the disparities that the subsidy would definitely come. The remover would come. When he failed to sue me, probably he was doing that because he thought that was going to impress Nigerians, especially when you consider the fraud in that subsidy. But then he also forgot in that hurry to also put into consideration the effects of the Saudi remover. Because first of all, Nigerians had felt that it is going to come to the end of June. And the first announcement he made was the remover of subsidies. So he came at a bang, a big blow to Nigerians. And yes, he has realized his mistakes and they are not talking about palliatives. That is gone. There is really nothing we can do about the labor unions that I do. I don't think I have faith in them because most of them, they are going to be compromised. Nevertheless, when you talk of the other issues he raised in his speech, it's a normal thing. These are things, these are rhetorics that preceded. We are not bothered about that. We are not bothered. Nigerians can no longer be deceived by rhetorics. We have a high blood pressure, a destructive pressure and anemia of concrete performance. Did that anemia of concrete performance in those Nigerians are really worried about that? Yes, what the thought? You have talked about the problems you have told Nigerians, your seeds of the problems that the nation is facing. Now, we want to ensure what we want to see is beyond the raptures. First and foremost, in the next six, one year, we want to see what you have achieved. There is so much rot in the system that you cannot adjust even in four years. Don't doubt about it. Well, you said you have to come, in our African province, it is a money market, you know, from sleep you know death. What does that tell you? Let us have that. You said it's renewed hope. So we expect to see that spring will be born under your price. Even if we are not going to, it's not going to be all the rather, it's not going to be record. But then we will have that hope, move us from the fatigue of despair and take us to the buoyancy of hope. That is what we want. Heals out of this mountain of despair because there is so much sadness in the land. Beware of the frustration and corroding bitterness as I'm going to look at it. So we want to see that way of life, even though in eight years you can't even come to that. But we just want to have that conviction that yes, there is hope in the people. Nigerians are hopes are dust. James Shatter, please rebuild that hope. It is not done by saying renewed hope. That is not what we're talking about. So most of us are not really bothered about the semantics, the rhetorics, and so on. We want to see action because you have those speeches waiting for presidents all over the world. And of course, you know, you have very good speechwriters. Speechwriters that can make you commit smother. Speechwriters that can make you commit suicide whichever way you want it. Whichever way they want it. They can tell you to go. Don't write a speech for you or you can't kill your mother and kill your students. Believe me, you're doing the right thing. You have such powerful speechwriters. But what we want is to mock the thought. We want to see signs that yes, you are actually there in the image of Nigeria's. I can see that in Balaamete. Although I completely condemn the process that produced him completely, completely. And also when I think of his antecedents, which I'm not too pleased with. I'm talking of the so-called fraud in the United States that has to do with drugs. I'm talking of the so-called controlling the whole resources and legals for his family. It's here where his family members are doing this and doing that. I'm talking about his educational background and all those stuff. It's because if you have to lead Nigeria, you have to stay who comes to their country clean hands. But then, probably, one thing he is trying to do is forge himself of all those allegations by ensuring that as a president he does the right. Probably that is what he wants to do. He's trying to do cleansing. You know, probably I enjoy his sins and penitently approach Nigeria. To say yes, my Christ said that there is no sinner. He rules that it's natural. So we are all sinners. But forgive me for all my wrongs. I think that is what he is just trying to do. I did that in the past, but he cannot tell me it's not guilty of that. It is guilty of that. But he can probably, if he comes and approaches Nigeria, if we are judges and approaches Nigeria, penitently, why not? Okay, let us see what you have to do. But he has to impress us. He has to continue this tragedy for at least another six months to one year to be able to convince Nigeria that yes, he is a right man. He's going to be a square peg in a square hole. Well, you know what the Bible says, he that is forgiven much, love it much. So let's move on. And as I said a while ago, the cases are in court. We don't know how it's going to end. We keep our fingers crossed. And until then, Tinobu is the president. So let's move on to the headline on the nation newspaper. Amethyst exits and the fireworks before suspension. Give us your take on this. There are divergent views. The line is breaking. It's off and on. Okay, I'm going to the nation newspaper. Above the mask. There is this headline. Amethyst exits and the fireworks before suspension. Can you hear me now? Yes, I can hear you clearly now. All right, so there are divergent views from different quarters regarding the legality or otherwise of the processes. Give us your take on this development. Are you talking about the removal or suspension of Amethyst exits? Yes. Well, that's long overdue. I did test a little bit. You know, at a point, I'm sorry to say this, it's my opinion. I can say I hate you. I can say I love you. It's my view, it's my opinion. I did test that man, you know. I don't get that himself part of the idea. I think he's one man that is quite optimistic thinking he was above the law. He saw himself as a person in the country. And sadly, we had a president that I don't know how to describe it. There is something, if they investigate, there probably is something between the American and the former president that will act very soon. Because the way he went about his office was as if he was the president himself. And he didn't have any compunction. No regrets whatsoever for bringing untold hatches. You could see the way he was talking, doing as if he has this wisdom of Solomon in terms of finance. And so many financial funders have criticized his policies. Show me a lot of them. Look at the government office and try to contest for the purposelessness of this to me. What kind of a character is this? So it is long overdue. Yes, a lot of people are going to weave all kinds of interpretations into his suspension. Because, you know, Tidibu had said he was the target when he was contested that he was the target. But then the truth about it is that you know that you are my opponent, my adversary, my enemy. Don't dance, Tidibu. Because if you steal and I exploit their stealing and use it against you, don't say it's because you are my adversary. Of course, even if you are my adversary you gave me cause to do whatever I'm doing against you by stealing. So don't dance, Tidibu. I went tomorrow and I said, no, Mori must go to prison. He said, I did it because she is my adversary. But she stole. And I'm exploiting that. So the suspension of a mentally was long overdue. Long overdue because he saw himself as an alternative person. Alternate person. Somebody who felt he was above the law. Everybody have anything like ability or whatsoever. Look at what way he run to London Awareness. The National Assembly will invite him. And he will defy the National Assembly. As if how dare you invite me. When the National Assembly can even invite the president. So never let his role be suspended longer. Not just suspended. Just because you don't have the so-to-speak, the National Assembly, right? The president cannot remove him. Yeah, the CBN act does not empower the president to remove him. That's what I'm saying. The president cannot suspend him. But he can suspend him. No, no, no, he can't remove him. He can suspend him. But not remove him. That's what I'm saying. Just unfortunate. So-to-speak, National Assembly, right now. Otherwise, I strongly believe that what the president will do once the National Assembly is inaugurated one of the first things he should do is to send a call for the removal of him. And it should be prosecuted. Of course, there are no circumstances of fraud against it. But have a certain conviction even if it's being investigated, it will be found guilty of fraud. But can we get the money to buy the buses? Can we get the money to buy the buses? Can we get the money to buy the buses? In Quaterra, can we be prosecuted in isolation, you know? Because some of the things that he did that we know about, for instance, giving loans to the federal government even before they are provoked by the National Assembly, he didn't do them in isolation. Maybe he used his powers for that and colluded with the presidency and did what they did. So can he be prosecuted in isolation? That was why I said, that was why I said that that the former president can also not be executed. That's why I said. I said, if you remember, I said there is definitely something that something went on between Guari and the National Assembly. I mentioned that. That ought to be investigated. And I also said once we are going to contact a lot of these crimes or fraud that would have taken it. Nothing would convince me to the contrary that the National Assembly is not sovereign. I guess one of the things that I did get the money to buy those buses and all those stuff. Yeah, I guess the point that Inyambu is also trying to make without question is the fact that Mefile is just one of the many we expect to see. And that put into it. Yes, we are doing. Sirika, what do you mean? Sirika, that the former minister. Of course, that way the crime committed was not committed alone. You cannot commit a crime alone. Even as a governor you must seek the services of the civil servant because the governor doesn't give the science checks, you know that. Commissioners don't sign checks, you know that. It's a palm-circuit DFA. So you have to realize how the civil servant works. But so you cannot, when you say that the government is sovereign it's more or less like the head. But the governor is not the one that signs the checks. He has a cause. He works in Kahutut, others. But as we are talking now Inyambu is the one that we see. He's the one that we know. If for example now that a crime takes place in plus C and it is the chairman or the MD that signs the check. Definitely the demand they are going to mention is the chairman or the MD. Then in the cause of investigation his accomplices will be admitted. They will do the work with the accountants. So that is the point that we are talking about now. But at the end of the day after investigation or during investigation they are going to disclose the identities of all others that are involved. That's the fear. That's the fear sometimes when even a local criminal is caught and he begins to drop names of very prominent people in the society. The case dies. So the crop of people that may be fingered in this case of MFLE do you think his case will see the light of day? Can they make him a fall guy in isolation when big names are mentioned? Because something like Bari for instance they may not want to prosecute him. Well I completely agree with you because can you hear me? Yes. I completely agree with you. We live in a country where the rule of law is staged and there is no justice families of party but we do cherry picking instead of justice. It depends on who commits the crime but we won't have the lights of apathy and co-contestants for precedence. We won't have the lights of them. That's the truth about it. But we live in this country where we cherry picking the justice. And so that is the fear and that is where we expect Bola Mettinibu to change that perception. We expect him to ensure that the judiciary lists up his name the last place for the common man that when you go to the temple of justice you're actually going to get justice. We want Bola Mettinibu to ensure that. You see the kind of fear the reservations you're expressing is the same all over. And unfortunately our justices unfortunately are shameless. And that was a judge. He was the very first judge in all universities. But it is so sad our justices today are shameless. All they know is how to grab and grab and grab like crabs. As far as their consent condemn them it doesn't matter. They want the best. But then it also has to do with the government because the remuneration of justice judges. As a judge my dad was the highest earner. In 1970 3,000 naira was a lot of money. The highest. They met so they were very comfortable. We all went to school with police escorts as children are talking about justice. I'm talking about justice and I'm talking about Waogusu. Because as far as the government was concerned if they can get the judge they get the family the children, the wife almost. It was like that. And perhaps who was guarded. There was some there who was a government. There's Abacha some who was also a GeoCit. Who was guarded just to ensure that we see. And 3,000 was a whole lot of money. When Naira had value. When Naira had value. I'm talking about 1970 Yes, I'm talking about 1970 I really want to point it. I got into compromise school. I got into Nazu school in 1972. I got into compromise school. Let's quickly take this. Unfortunately the judges now don't have they are the worst pay in the country. Let's quickly take this other headline. You have to address those issues. Let's quickly take this headline from the leadership. And you know almost all the newspapers will say or said the same thing about this 10th National Assembly a Pabio faces Yari on Tuesday coast clear for Abbas. These are the people that are going to be undervalued as it were for the National Assembly Senate presidency a Pabio and Yari for tomorrow that is going to happen. What is your take on the people who are involved? For Abbas the coast is clear. Other people have stepped down and everything is rosy for him. He will take it. The speakership of the House of Reps but for the Senate it is between a Pabio and Yari. And by the way another headline in one of the papers is still saying that the DSS, EFCC and every other agency has been told to stay clear of arresting Yari. That headline is there side by side with someone who might be the president. I don't even know why they are saying it should stay clear. I'm not aware of the alleged offenses of Yari. And you know we have a billion Yaris. I don't even know which Yari. We must have the police man Yari and this one Yari. The former chief of staff Yari. So which one are we talking about? The former governor. Are we talking about the former governor? Ok, that was an enlightened note anyway. The fact is Abbas is somebody I like until now because of his legacy in Tachuaibo is also intelligent a good talker I like it but I immediately had this reservation when I saw that he has this gluttonous appetite for power I will do anything no matter what it takes to get power I'm talking of how he met as this senior chair candidate for this in a quite long time. Honestly I wasn't really pleased with that. That was where I had this reservation for Abbas and for a man like Abbas if he becomes a senior president I tell you we are going to have a rehearsal of the 9th assembly because they will not want to go contrary to what the executive would do. Not to stand in the property of whatever the executive would do in order to maintain that office and that is where I'm going to have a problem because we need a stronger, varying national assembly to check the parliament the parliament might be doing what he's doing right now by doing what he's doing right now just to ingratiate himself and probably when he's well seated then he will now show him himself that we still have that perception we still have that perception because of what he did in legal states because of what he did in legal state it was you cannot go against it the reason I turned it to your finish even during the elections his wife made those comments and she said she had no regrets she said she had no regrets when she threatened the e-books that you can't come and make your money here and vote for another parliament forgetting that the parliament is not actually from the legal states because it is a cosmopolitan place the real legutions and the above views have been living in sidelines it's not even from the legal states we all know that it's not a secret so having said that a man like Appabio will not want to do anything that will offend the executive he might not say that like Lawan but he will definitely access and that is one to fear that is a major concern that is a major concern that those who are against his candidacy are trying to fight for power that is what I've come to observe there are also those and that will be a minus it will be a minus as we wrap up we want a sugar or carnival kind of company look at how when sugar or carnival died we are still talking about that's the kind of and this one leadership that will forever criticize and demonize that will be found wanting in the history of the national assembly will be the lawan leadership just before we wrap up I was saying that that was a major concern that those who are kicking against Appabio's candidacy have that he may just end up being a rubber stamp but also on the other hand on the other hand you have those who are saying look we don't even want the legislative arm also to always be at loggerheads with the executive but now you've given us the Chibwa Caribo example so that kind of gives us a sort of balance to the whole thing well this is a much you can take on off the press thank you so much for your time as always it's always very interesting to have you join us on the press thank you next time I wear my hat it's good to see your hat sometimes when they come back and blast it so they just see me like this this is your real face yes this is my real face thank you so much for being a part of our show today alright there Opunabor Uncle Taria, political affairs analyst joined us from river state and off the press we'll be back in a moment with our very first hot topic on the breakfast do stay with us