 How's it going everybody? DottoDoy here with a very exciting video today as we're going to be taking a look at some tier lists for Dragon Ball Fighters after the most recent Season 2 patch. Now of course as it is a tier list video there are a few disclaimers that I always feel the need to give out. Tier lists are meant to be fun ways to get the community involved and start talking about characters they think are strong, strategies they think are strong and talk about what individuals really value in a fighting game like this. So as always if you see something you agree with or disagree with in this video feel free to put your thoughts and opinions down below in the comments and maybe even go the extra mile and make a tier list yourself I would love to see those. The other thing that I really wanted to get across in this video was that because of the Season 2 patch being the one big balance patch we're getting this year I wouldn't expect this tier list to be shaken up so easily. It's going to take some more DLC characters and some more discoveries or just consistent tournament performance to really get some stuff to move here. So with that said let's go ahead and jump into some Season 2 tier lists starting with some professional tier lists so we can actually get some opinions from what the highest level believe. We have two examples today, we have Cyclops's DBFZ tier list as well as Hook and Gods tier list that he recently made on stream. The full plot of that stream as well as all of their Twitter's will be linked below down in the description and probably even the pinned comment as well. Right away if you look at the top of their list you can probably already pick out a few characters that are making appearances in both of them. Those characters being Piccolo, Adult Gohan, Bardock, Kid Buu, Go tanks, Super Saiyan Goku and Yamcha. These are all characters that I'm sure a majority of people can agree are very strong. Bardock of course is still as much of a force to be reckoned with as he always has been, this man just plays the game of Dragon Ball Fighters too well. The ability to be dangerous at almost any point on screen is one that you would obviously kill to have and Bardock just doesn't so effortlessly. Full screen he can throw himself in with no regard, if he's in the air and wants you on the ground he can perform a level 3, two level 1s to secure kills all while staying on the field, amazing buttons as well as one of the best if not the best LLs in the game. The hitbox on this thing is insane and just covers so much space. Bardock really just does not have a flaw, this character is just insane by Dragon Ball Fighter standards. Piccolo is another contender for characters that are just stupidly good. This man if he gets you in the corner and has some bar he can do some absolutely disgusting snapback loops as well as the air dragon rush into Hellzone grenade being fully real now. This character just has a thousand ways to mix you up and make you pay for even daring to block some of his stuff. Piccolo is crazy last patch and they sort of missed their chance to tone him down and in fact even toned him up a little bit so he escapes into this patch still top tier. And of course the three other characters that make up Hook and Gods top five are adult Gohan, Kid Buu and Go-Tanks. All characters that are very dangerous to block against and in the case of Kid Buu and Go-Tanks even when they're off screen their assists are definitely still good enough to make them useful in the back. Gohan more than either of them once he lands a hit can really make you pay while also building up an insane amount of bar. After the differences in the top top tier though both of the tier list kind of agree on what the middle to bottom of this game looks like right now. And I would also say for sure that this area of the tier list is probably going to be the most prone to change because all of these characters are so close together I could definitely see some more tournament results moving characters up other characters down and even one little piece of tech discovery could probably shoot a character from the bottom of it to more the mid or top of it. That doesn't mean we're not going to talk about the characters in this section of course but we probably won't get to each and every one of them because in most circumstances what they do well and what they do poorly are pretty common between some characters. One of the bigger discrepancies between both lists though has to be the placement of Cell in Hook and Gods stream he felt like they were severely downplaying Cell because of Fenrich who is very well known for his cell and on their list they obviously have him pretty low lower than a lot of other characters. My personal take on this is Cell is very much still a devastating character and I would probably agree more with Hook's placement of him than theirs but I wouldn't be surprised if they've just played against some of the best Cell so many times that what Cell can do really doesn't faze them anymore. Who knows maybe even if I think Cell is that good once you get to a certain level maybe he suffers from the same problems Goku Black does of not being able to open you up well enough. I don't think that's necessarily true especially with some of Cell's block strings and mix ups but that might be their reason for the lower placement. Other characters that I want to talk about being placed here are Super Saiyan Vegeta, Captain Ginyu, Cooler and Broly. Super Saiyan Vegeta has been falling out of favor in a lot of people's eyes but I still vouch that he's an overall super solid character with a great assist backing him up one that allows him to slot in to almost any team that wants to run him. Still allows him to be a very good comeback character that can make use of bar without necessarily needing it if that makes any sense. Moving over to Captain Ginyu this is just a character that can run you over with sheer force and nothing but if he's calling out his Ginyu Force members timely as well as making sure that he leads you into situations where there is no right answer on how to guard you just kind of have to do a little guesswork then he can very quickly feel like a top tier character. With that said he is obviously missing the normals of a top tier character one that would put him along the lines of Super Saiyan Goku adult Gohan Bardock the likes of those characters but I still do think there is reason enough to pick Captain Ginyu over those characters if you can get comfortable enough with those Ginyu Force combos. Cooler is a character that I think is slept on in the eyes of most people because a lot of people just don't play him. Thanks to the new patch he got some new damaging routes as well as better oki off of his dive kick which he can now go into more easily. Add all that to the fact that Cooler was a sleeper character back in season one when he was released and now you have a character that can be very deadly in the hands of somebody that actually goes through the trouble of playing him. The same goes for Broly he got a few more changes as well as better ways to get sliding knocked down in the corner and better oki off his level three so pretty much still the same character with all that armory goodness just a little more consistent now. Now to round off to talk about the middle slot of the tier list we're going to go into Zamasu who's placed up in S on Hook and God's tier list but is just under that area on the Cyclops tier list. Few Zamasu is a character that got a lot better in the patch not only did his autocom become a throw which you can make people fear and have to react to it and now has very feasible routes to make you have two hits to death starting from the very beginning of the game so messing up once or twice against Zamasu will cost you a character and most likely the match in a game so founded around momentum. Now we can move on to the usual more controversial aspect of tier list the lowest of tiers. As you can see here there's a lot of familiar faces from old patches as well as some new ones. To start it off we have characters like Beerus, Goku Black, Android 17, all of these characters are no stranger to being down here Napa as well is a character that often finds himself struggling it is still pretty much there right now at least on Hook's tier list. Tien has also found himself way down here even though he is pretty useful in the damage compartment Tien is really just a one note character once you block one Tien you've pretty much blocked them all and he really struggles opening you up a lot like a lot of other characters here on this list. Now we can uh we can talk about we can go ahead and talk about the uh big elephant in the room Krillin on both tier list uh is listed as the worst character in the game uh that's not necessarily true for the Cyclops tier list they could always add one of those other characters below him but I think it is time to admit that Krillin is a little underbaked right now with the latest patch they gave him some new stuff with his Key Blast which I have said in the past that I'm a big fan of being able to get meters sliding knockdown is always super cool but unfortunately man I don't know dude why did they take away so much stuff along with that it pretty much reset Krillin so while I don't think Krillin will be this low forever I think he might make himself work up to where at least you know Tien and the rest of the gang are but for now it's like starting over from square one with a character that never even made it to square three so it's there's so much work ahead of the Krillin Krillin players but of course still my favorite Dragon Ball character so I will keep rocking out with him he does have a really fast beam and that's another thing even when you're low tier and Dragon Ball fighters usually you still have things that you do well Tien got damaged Krillin's got fast beam as well as some projectile game base Vegeta for example while he did lose he was never played a lot and only lost stuff in the patch he still has you know really fast Key Blast and you know I always thought he had pretty okay buttons but that's pretty much both of these tier lists base Goku also low tier by the way doesn't have a real level three which really hurts him when he's left all alone and assist isn't great enough to warn him staying back for too long but since we're coming to the end of this video and we've taken a look at the pro tier list now I just want to give you my thoughts on the game as a whole of course this is coming from my experience you can see I made two different lists one laid out like cooking gods and another with a more well-rounded approach for more in-depth stuff a little harder to talk about let's just go ahead and break down some big stuff that I really want to talk about here so my top six for the game that I would put in S are Bardock Piccolo adult Gohan Kid Boo Super Saiyan Goku and Gotenks in that order so Gotenks just barely doesn't make top five and instead Goku replaces him you might have noticed I didn't talk too much about Super Saiyan Goku in it at first and that's because I wanted to save him for right now because I think Super Saiyan Goku is is super slept on this is a character that is great in terms of consistency one thing I saw on Twitter that really stuck with me ever since was Goku comebacks aren't impressive anymore if you have a full health Goku and they have three characters and sparking and you also have sparking that sounds like an even match up bro Goku is just so consistent has amazing beam assist uh beam assist are always amazing but his normals his keyblast he just feels like a complete team in one character and obviously that's what Arksis was going for but since they also gave him better routes if he has two bars to get additional damage it almost replaced his missing two double command man super so yeah this is a character that I think might even be better than Kid Boo I don't know if I want to say that but consistency is king in my opinion and that character is so consistent you can see over on my left here list the only character that I think that has a better assist and more well-rounded than Goku is Yamcha and that's just because his assist is so good let's not even talk about it dude his assist is amazing I run him on almost every team after my top six you'll see characters like Zamasu Android 16 Yamcha Fujito blue Cell now I do want to mention that all these characters aren't really in any particular order except for Zamasu and 16 I think those characters are definitely the next best after that you could probably argue for everything else a Goku blue after Cell I think is pretty a pretty safe bet Goku blue is pretty good nowadays and then down below even though I really wanted to do it I just couldn't bring myself to move Jiren up a tier I just feel like he's missing a little something but I don't know dude I feel like you could move him up if you wanted to he's definitely in between these two bottom tiers and then we have everybody else 17 and Vegeta 17 still has a lot of issues not to mention they took away his ability to barrier in response to a 2h so some 17 players even argue that he's a little worse now I don't necessarily feel that way myself I definitely like the improvements to his normals a little more but it does suck to see after that it's base Goku and Krillin pretty much on the same tier there if you're not comparing usability on a team if you are I definitely think Krillin takes it over him you can see I moved him over to the half vault the speed on his rock increase just didn't make it a good assist at all other than that though that's both of my list you can pause and try to get into the nitty gritty of it all I made the second tier list after the first and after thinking about it some more I might have moved characters around so make sure to bring up any you know questions you have down below in the comments any any improvements you would make your thoughts and opinions on characters as well as your thoughts and opinions on my tier list again thank you so much for doing that while you're down below in the comments if you like the video in the channel make sure to hit the like button and subscribe other than that there's a few videos on your screen that you should feel free to check out if any of them catch your eye thank you so much for watching this video once again I'm Datsudoya and I will see you in the next one