 I don't hear a drop. I don't know. There's another. There's like a conference call in the room next to me. Oh. It goes like a run, run, run. Yeah. No. I don't hear that at all. I'm just hearing it over there. Huh. That's weird. That might be an artifact of your connection, I guess. But you hear it. No. Oh. Huh. Poor. Have you checked your ears lately? Just remember, your viewers have backed my ears. Roger has the better ears. Well, because I only hear the one channel. That's why we need to trust Roger. Trust Roger. Those words don't go together for Veronica. You trusted me for three years to cart your keister back home. That's true. It's not like I was driving into walls or bicyclists. Although a few bicyclists probably shouldn't have checked it. But you didn't hear that from me. Not on the open channel. But don't take my word for it. Reading rainbow. I love it. Butterfly in the sky. I can go twice as high. I have an ongoing. Come on. Just belt it out. The office won't mind. It's in a book. I'm good. Take a look. I'm good. They need to get to know the real Veronica. Now, there's no echoing TV or video. That's just office noise. OK. People on a conference call. So, Bob, if you could look at page four of the RFP, I'll see that I think Darlene did an excellent job of laying out our points for the Q4 projections. Wonderful. That's not anything of what you're talking about. How do we execute? Do you still have control, Roger? Yes, you do. I have control. Control, control. All right. I'm going to shut up. OK. I'm going to do a show. Veronica, would you like to join me? Sure. All right. Here we go. The Daily Tech News for Monday, August 15, 2016. I'm Tom Merritt joining me today as she does most Mondays, Ms. Veronica Belmont back in the house. Actually, not in the house. You're in an office joining us from your new gig. So if you hear a little murmur, murmur in the background, that's our highly produced office background track. Very expensive. Yeah. We've gone to great lengths to procure that from the BBC Sound Library. She's in an office. How are you doing? I'm very well. Thank you for asking. Yes, I apologize. As always, it's a little roomy in here. It's a little chattery. But that's just, you know, working woman life. Wait. Theater of the mind. Yes, I am a working woman. But I don't think that means what I think it means. Careful of the order and phrasing of that. But yes, you are a person who has a job. There you go. There you go. Let's start off. We're going to talk about gold flake tattoos that turn your skin into a touchscreen. So you don't want to stop the podcast before we get to that. But let's start with the top stories. I'm sure all of us have read all 10,000 words of the Washington Post interview with Tim Cook. In fact, I'm sure many of us actually have. Reflecting on his first five years as CEO of Apple, Cook, if you want to not have to read all 10,000 words, said the following, this is kind of a summary. He called augmented reality a core technology. He called smartphones the greatest market on earth. He predicted that if every person in the world will have one, he's trying to bolster the fact that Apple's hot into smartphones and some investors are souring on it. He says, no, it's a great market. It's a great market to be in. He said they determined they could have built technology to help the FBI unlock an iPhone. He's like, we got together. We took a couple of days. We realized we could comply with the request if we wanted to, but we just didn't think we should because we didn't think we could keep the technique out of the hands of bad people. When asked about mistakes, he cited Apple Maps. He said that's one where we are honest with ourselves. It was not good. He said, I think we're pretty proud of it now. He didn't mention John Browett's name, but he did say they made a mistake hiring an executive who didn't fit into the culture regarding retail. And John Browett very famously was retail head for only a year at Apple. Cook also said he's already looking for a successor and that he talks with the board about candidates to succeed him or at least about the succession program at every meeting saying that he wants to make sure that what happened with Steve, which he says, I thought Steve was going to bounce back. He did not expect Steve Jobs to pass as fast as he did. He's like, I want to never have that kind of uncertainty. Steve Jobs and I talked about that and not having that be a problem in the future. The one thing he didn't talk about was cars. Of course. Yeah, he wouldn't reveal anything about cars. Wow. I guess that having a succession plan in place makes a lot of sense, but I didn't realize they were talking about it that frequently. That's pretty impressive. I would love to be a fly on the wall in those meetings. And know what names have gone on and off that list over the years. I'm sure it's not a static list, right? That's very true. You're right. That's also a good point. I'm surprised he would throw shade at a previous employee, though. Yeah. Well, he said it was a mistake because it wasn't a fit. I mean, he's Tim Cook. He tried to be very diplomatic about it, and he didn't name Browett by name. I think that was him trying to not throw shade, but also trying to say, hey, that was a mistake. And I don't think he was trying to blame Browett, just like we hired the wrong guy. He's great for other things, but he wasn't good for us. All right. Fair enough, I guess. I'm looking forward to reading through this one. I haven't had a chance to yet, but that's going in the pocket list. Yeah. It's a very detailed look into Tim Cook's mind. Nothing earth-shattering in there, but if you read the whole thing, you really get a good impression for how he thinks and the way he views things. Speaking of Apple, a KGI analyst, Ming-Chi Kuo, says Apple will add a new 10.5-inch iPad to its lineup next year, along with upgraded 12.9-inch and low-cost 9.7-inch versions. Excuse me. Kuo also predicts revolutionary design changes in the iPad in 2018, including a flexible AMOLED display. No iPad mini on this list, which I find intriguing. That could be, if this ends up being true, that could be because Apple believes that larger phones are filling that gap and they don't need to fill that gap. I love the idea of a 9.7-inch that's cheaper. I could replace my 9.7-inch iPad, which is a third-generation iPad with something cheap and feel good about it because I use it mostly for prompter and little bitty things. It's not worth me spending a lot of money to replace, but it is getting slow at its age. Maybe they're seeing some opportunity there. The most fascinating thing here is a flexible AMOLED display in a tablet. I'm trying to figure out what it would take for me to really use an iPad with any kind of regularity. I've tried throughout the years to use all the different versions. I think the only one I don't have is the largest version that you have that I've briefly tested out at your place. For me, it's phone or laptop. I can't get myself to use an iPad. I can't integrate it into my day-to-day activities, and Ryan uses his constantly. It's just not for me, and that feels weird to say. I feel like there have been very few pieces of technology that have had any sort of popularity that I've completely just not used at all or cared about. What is that for me? I think tablets in general are having a hard time with ubiquity. They are good in certain situations, and therefore they keep selling, and they will keep selling for a while, but they are not what I think a lot of people thought they would be, which is a replacement for things. That Apple commercial where they try to make the iPad Pro look like a computer just makes me cackle. It's like the three things it can do that are like a multitasking computer they show in that commercial, they do things on the screen at once with a video playing in the corner, and it's like, yeah, that is not a multitasking computer. That is not going to ever replace my computer. But tablets are good for me for I use it as a portable television sometimes, if I want to sit out on the porch and watch video. That's a good point. Yeah, I use it in the mornings to read, and actually in the evenings to read. I read books, I read feeds, I read newspapers on my Pixel C, as a matter of fact, not even on an iPad. I've found reasons for it, but if I weren't trying to use these to see what they're good for, I don't know whether how many I would even have. Good point. Google released code for a new operating system called Fuchsia, designed for embedded systems. The system uses the magenta kernel. That's part of the Fuchsia. There's some other programs that it uses that make it combine into Fuchsia. They explain it in the GitHub article but it's the magenta kernel, which doesn't do a lot, but it's great for embedded systems. Their mods to it support 32-bit and 64-bit ARM and 64-bit x86 processors. They also added in native support for user accounts, a capability-based security model, and they're using Google's Dart programming language as the primary programming language. It's available for testing, should run on a PC or in a virtual machine pretty easily, and Google's Travis Geiselbrecht said that a Raspberry Pi 3 port is in the works. Awesome. And well done, pronouncing that name. Tom. Thank you. Just wanted to give you props for that. Thank you very much. I don't know that I pronounced it right now that you've called it. I certainly pretended like I knew what it was. Yeah. So on the one hand, we can poke fun at Google and say, oh great, just what we need. Another operating system, etc. But those are all Linux-based. This is not Linux-based, and it's Google's Tizen, essentially. They're like, we're going to have an operating system built from the ground up specifically to be lightweight. That could be a really smart move for Internet of Things. Yeah, that's fascinating. I would love to learn more about this. People are definitely kind of on an Internet of Things buzzkill mode right now. What was a very hot kind of sector of technology is now getting a little more heat on it in a bad way. So maybe Google jumping in with all the options that they have in the future will help bring things back up again. Yeah, my feeling about that is we get too excited about things when they first sort of become viable, and then we get less excited that we should be about things in the future. I feel like we're on that part of the curve right now. So it's good for Google or anybody else to be putting things in place to be ready for when we get excited again. But it's always curious like, will we get excited or will this just die out? I mean, that happens sometimes, too. Bots will never die, though. So we're good on that, right? That's the person who works at a bot company. Just making sure. The New York Times says this would bring its live video to the platform, including NFL games. Twitter is now selling promoted stickers with Pepsi as the first buyer. Brands can design 4-8 stickers for users to add to photos, and stickers will generate a hashtag of the brand's choosing. This feels very Snapchat-like in a way. Branded filters, for example. Absolutely. This is a good monetization play for Twitter. It would save them, but it would be the kind of thing you would look at and point out if they didn't do. I don't know if you took a look at those Pepsi stickers, but they're very subtle. There's only a couple that you can really even tell our Pepsi at first glance. And hey, it's a monetization. It's a way to make money for Twitter, which is something that they sorely need at this point. Well, the thing they need is money, but even more than money, they need an increase in users. If you can get a Twitter app on the Apple TV that can stream football games, suddenly all these live streaming deals that Twitter is is doing make sense. Do you think Twitter ever evolves into a video service? A video service that, like no other, has a live social component built into it? Could be a huge win if they could pull it off. That would be great for them. I just wish Twitter could figure out what they want to be. I think that is a huge problem that Twitter has been facing for the past several years. What are they a platform? Are they a media company? What exactly is Twitter? And once they figure that out, then they can start getting users and promoting two users in that way. It's kind of upsetting, actually. Well, they're trying to say we're the live place. We're the place where you go to find out what's happening. That could work. I can see that working. But stickers aren't really part of that, so that's something they have to do in the meantime to get it there. And it is weird to think of a platform like Twitter being a place you go to watch video live. But I don't know, there's something appealing to me about the idea if they can pull off this pivot to say in four or five years, oh yeah, Twitter's where I go to watch news and live sports events. It has become my outlook to what is actually happening right now. And the fact that you can comment on things with Twitter is, yeah, that's how it got started and you can still do it, but it wouldn't be central to what I use Twitter for anymore. Oh, man, I would love that if that had worked for the Olympics. I did not watch a single Olympic event on television. Everything I saw was on the internet somehow. If I could have that and also have comments from the people I follow on Twitter about those live streaming events, that would be amazing. Yeah. I agree as well. New York Times reports how Red's best seafood, a distributor in Boston and many others, are tracking the seafood they purchase so they know where it came from. A lot of what Red's does is try to get small fishermen, sustainable fishing practices, etc. Red's system will let the buyers of its fish, now this isn't consumers, these are wholesale buyers, scan a sticker on a box of fish which will launch a webpage and on that webpage they can see what boat caught the fish, where it was caught, how it was caught. Red's best Jared Auerbach who founded the company hopes to eventually deliver fresh fish direct to consumers. He's like, I'd like to be able to cut out the middleman and say, hey, you want fresh caught pike, we'll have it at your door tomorrow and you can scan the sticker and find out exactly when it was caught, where, etc. Conservation Advocacy Group Oceana has found in its studies that 33% of fish is mislabeled, it's not actually the fish it says it is and Oceana Google and a satellite image researcher company called SkyTruth have partnered on GlobalFishingWatch.org which uses satellite data to analyze fishing boat practices and that's a data set that can plug into what Red's trying to do. That is absolutely fascinating, I think that's a really amazing way to kind of have some quality control and figure out what the path from ocean to restaurant or ocean to refrigerator really is and be able to have some accountability built in there. I mean, if you're a data nerd and you eat fish, this is like a dream come true, right? I'm a pescatarian. Yeah, exactly, so you can dig right in and I do love the idea of being able to know not only is this the actual fish it says it is, right? I bought fish at the grocery store and it's like I kind of look and if it looks weird like it looks too much like salmon like if it's too red and like that's not salmon it's supposed to be there, right? I'm a little suspicious but a lot of times you're like that just looks weird I don't know if that's right. I would like to be able to do that scanning system obviously a scanning system could be gamed etc but if you can get something that's reliable to know like okay not only is this in fact tilapia but it's not tilapia that was caught a year ago and frozen and then unfrozen this is fresh caught like it says it is. This sounds like pretty game changing technology actually for a lot of industries like that would have a lot of ramifications throughout the industry. Very cool. Audi is building in technology that communicates with stoplights in the US a vehicle to infrastructure or V2i tech lets infrastructure like stoplights send data to cars wirelessly through the internet. The Audi's will show a countdown before our red light turns green and a countdown to red if the vehicle determines not make it safely through a yellow. The tech will show up in Audi Q7 A4s built after June 1st 2016 and work in five to seven cities this year. I think it's the Q7s and the A4s because those are two different cars. Those are the models it will go into and I'm not going to buy a new car this year so I won't take advantage of this but I still wanted to come to my city because I want to see how this works now one of the things they do say is when the countdown gets close to zero it will stop to encourage the driver to look up at what is happening around them so that's an important part and I wonder if the countdown to the red will have the intended effect. Generally yellow lights mean speed up to most people even though that's not what they're supposed to be. Exactly. Speaking of Audi news VW will be buying back my Audi for a pretty decent amount. I'm part of the class action suit and I got my estimate of what I'd be receiving back and for all the crap that I went through with this process I'm pretty pleased with the result. So you're just going to take the cash huh? I'm going to take the cash and run where we're going to go from a two car household to a one car household. Interesting. So this applies particularly to you. People who either are taking that buy back or aren't thinking they will buy a Volkswagen product now because of that whole scandal this is addressing them they're like hey we've moved past that and look at this cool thing does this sway you at all into like well maybe I will want an Audi again. No I don't think so. I still have pretty good feelings towards Audi the brand even though I know that they're still the same parent company as Volkswagen. So I don't have any hard feelings towards Audi I know it was just kind of a very strange awful situation but yeah I don't think I'll be buying an Audi again. Moving past that just the vehicle to infrastructure thing is something that's been kind of a buzzword for a while and this is the first real world implementation of it that I've seen I know there have been others but this is the first time I will see it in the United States it's difficult to pull off because you have to get the city to have its infrastructure communicate with your cars and getting cities, getting municipal governments to do things is often not a fast process and not an easy process. Did they say anywhere which seven cities it would be going live in? They wouldn't say they said five to seven which means they're talking to probably ten and they know that a bunch of them won't launch they're trying to manage expectations they don't want to name many names Hey thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com we get great stuff in there today another Jay Martin The Corley, Abatuele Kondulse PC Guy 8088, Strike It Rich 1 Motang and more Join TM204 and others in voting and submitting stories at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com that is a look at our top stories Alright so interesting note out there from MIT's Media Lab some students there researchers there teaming up with Microsoft Research on gold leaf temporary tattoos so what they do is they are making a design and software that is a circuit design they printed out as a stencil they add the gold leaf for conductivity they mount maybe some electronics to it there's three ways they're able to use these things and then they apply it to your skin through a water transfer so it ends up on your skin in various shades of gold leaf that looks like jewelry now they can do three things with this they can transmit touch controls so you can swipe it and it will control the music on your smart phone be able to skip to the next song or something they can have it change colors so that can be done just for decorative notification a dragon's breath could turn red on your arm they show something similar to that in their video and then they can add NFC where the tattoo works as the coil for the NFC and you can use that to be some kind of transmission of identity or payment or something like that again linked to your smart phone or another device like that they will hide an Arduino in your sleeve usually if they need to communicate with a smart phone $230 for them to buy the electronic cutter that prints out the stencils a packet of gold leaf costs them about 10 bucks that will last them a while and each NFC tag costs about $2.50 this is not expensive stuff Veronica it's not and I'm grateful that finally I can have some NFC control that I don't have to embed in my skin like in my skin which I was fine with for a decade I was fine with that idea but now that there is a safer alternative I'm looking forward to testing this out instead so would you get one of these in just like the circuit pattern or would you want the fiery flame that lights up when certain things happen on your phone I have to say I really like the gold leaf patterns I think they're quite beautiful actually I like some of the jewelry styles it is too bad that temporary tattoos they don't last a terribly long time and I wonder what kind of deterioration would start occurring after a couple of showers or after a workout or having it rub up on clothes so I do have a few questions about the longevity of this kind of stuff especially if you're using it for some kind of control for your phone for example that would be kind of a pain in the butt to have to constantly do yeah how often do you have to refresh it yeah and I know this is more of a proof of concept at this point though it does sound like they are going to be making them but that kind of stuff I don't like stuff that I have to constantly be replacing or think about I kind of set it and forget it yeah every Sunday putting on my temporary tattoo for the week that's about the limit I could see I can't even keep up with dyeing my hair every six weeks let alone you don't want to run into that one time when you needed your NFC elbow and you forgot to reapply I also in the video they talk about how this is meaning into places like Taiwan where affordable jewelry is a big part of the culture and this will get people to use wearables it definitely feels like something that people would want to play with I'd want to play with the swipe thing that could be on my arm and allow me to do some skipping or something that would be actually great for running but it also feels a little fatty it feels a little like something that would be great as a demo get a few people to try and partly because of those practicalities that have become a permanent thing the one thing they did mention was integrate it into jewelry so that it's not always attached to the skin but yeah exactly that sort of defeats the purpose so I love stuff like this because I love thinking about new interface designs and how we're kind of taking that technology into the future and testing out new ways that we can control our many and varied devices throughout our homes and out in the world and I do they talk about tattoos how someday you could actually go to a tattoo parlor in the video they mentioned this and how something permanently done to your skin that could work this way that to me is a little more appealing actually because I was thinking about semi-permanent or permanent measures along these lines for the past decade so the idea of getting a tattoo and just having that be in my NFC identifier that's neat that's where it becomes a very generational thing even for people who like to get tattoos now having a tattoo permanently added to you that is a control system for your device I mean how many accessories have you bought for devices that you could no longer use right it's true I mean so we have to kind of figure out which technologies are going to be a little bit future proof future proof is very difficult to say but at least as you mentioned generation proof mm-hmm you really need a standard that would be my first standard some kind of standard that is solid and is going to work for a while even USB which is one of the most solid standards we've noticed the change in connector types whether it's on the male or the female end now we're getting USB-C which is an entirely different connector type like granted this isn't a connector type it's wireless but what happens when the wireless protocol is improved and now it's like oh it doesn't really work with your older system can you swap out just the NFC chip maybe and then keep the circuitry tattoo can you modify it how hard is it to modify if it was based on a pattern I feel like you could translate that to different standards throughout the years so maybe if they worked on something like that where it was transferrable to different technology but just recognizing similar patterns but yeah getting anything embedded in you that could be obsolete probably a bad idea well the paper is going to appear at the international symposium on wearable computers 2016 in Heidelberg which happens September 12th through the 16th so it's just the start but the other thing to remember as I mentioned this doesn't cost a lot of money to do a lot of these sort of advances that we hear about are like well we're trying to bring it down to scale so we can bring it to a factory setting this is something that anybody could do if they can afford a $230 cutter you can certainly afford a little gold leaf and NFC and DIY this at home so maybe that makes it more standards ready or at least easier to play with it makes me just want to get some gold leaf temporary tattoos because things are really pretty yeah well and then why wouldn't you if you're going to go that far why wouldn't you make them so that they can connect with something and stick an Arduino with your sleeve can I write this off before we use it for the show absolutely yeah as long as we do a good video of you controlling something let's get to our pick of the day Morgan Arkmo on the reddit and Capmo in the tab pool the same person that Morgan is identifying himself just said that he has discovered a feature on Amazon while searching for new running shoes Amazon has introduced find the right size when you click on a button it asks you to select your current running shoes so that it can know what size you have now as long as they work well for you this should work then it provides you with a detailed analysis of how the shoe you're looking at compares to the one you already have there's some text descriptions he says in my case it says the shoes that I am looking at will be looser in the toes typical width and looser in the heel it even provides a detailed 3d scan of the structure of the shoe that is color coded to show where it fits for the same blue for looser red for tighter he says I'm super excited to have discovered this tool and is there by my duty to share it with my fellow dts comrades well I want to know how it worked out I want to know if it if the shoes he bought felt as described we got to get an update Morgan if you did ended up following through on any of those purchases give us a shout let us know how good they fit and whether it was exactly as said was it looser in the toes it was looser in the toes etc because yeah I actually enjoy my once a year journey to replace my running shoes which I do because that's what they recommend I think they recommended even more often but that's ridiculous I'm not made of shoes so I try to replace them at least once a month or once a month once a year but I like going and trying them on what I don't like is getting it wrong I would use this if it was like these are the ones that we think will work and maybe I could have two options and then I go and actually try them on walk around it and go yep that's the one yeah but this this kind of technology is another thing I'm really excited about like there's a few brands that are trying to do this kind of thing like where you go and you basically like make a 3d model of yourself you stand on a platform and they do that it's kind of like being in the security line at the airport and then you can try on clothes and they'll tell you which is going to fit you the best and there's no substitute for actually going to the store and trying things on but I do like whittling down my options a little bit especially when I'm shopping online yeah and playing off of something you already own is pretty genius send your picks to us folks feedback at dailytechnewshow.com you can find more picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks got a couple messages of the day first one is from Brian and Chino Hills who wrote to point out that CVS could keep its payment app we were talking about last week and I was like well I like the idea that it replaces a bunch of cards I don't like the idea that it's yet another payment system that I have to remember he says they can get the best of both worlds here's what Brian writes if CVS added additional payment options like Apple Pay into the app itself as well as like customers use those options at the register without the app then it would be able to offer all the benefits to those who want them in addition to maximum flexibility to anyone paying with that would be great genius yeah do that CVS let me pay with Apple Pay and give you my rewards card separately at the counter if I want but then give me the app with Apple Pay or Google Wallet in either case and let me pay with that on the back end with the app let me choose I'm still bad at paying with Apple Pay I don't know when I turned into such a ludic Tom I don't know when this happened but I cannot like it is never faster for me to try to use Apple Pay and just pull out my credit card I swear is it because you haven't gotten the habit it's gotta be or like I never know which places really use it and so like you have to ask and then you have to figure it out just take my credit card and do the thing I have one place the dog bakery near our house where we buy a lot of our dog food that uses Apple Pay they've used it from early on and it is great I always pull out my phone they are unless it's somebody like brand new I know like oh you're using Apple Pay no problem I hit it it's done I almost never shop at Whole Foods but when I do I pay with Apple Pay because I know it works there because that was the first place I tested it no other place even McDonald's which I know takes it do I ever use it because I'm afraid of having to go through the dance of like can I use this that's what I miss the most about Square Wallet was that you would just you just go near the store and be like oh are you are you at Site Class on 7th and you'd be like yes and then you would pop up on the register and then when you pay they just click your name and you're done it was amazing and they stopped doing it and I was like oh this would have been so great if this had caught on I think they were way ahead of the curve you want to read our next message yes Tom this is from Randy Tom Randy from the home of Bonnaroo in Manchester Tennessee he says I'm a technology director for a small school system and we have been using 15 rubber duckies to enroll 1000 Chromebooks in our Google Apps domain it also works great to set up the for BIOS for Windows PCs that we deploy so for any school tech people that have to work deploying Chromebooks and PCs I highly recommend rubber duckies plus it is fun to send a PO to the business department asking to buy rubber duckies from a hack shop love the show this is in response to us talking about the rubber duckie being in Mr. Robot with Darren on Friday and I had said well a lot of people use it for pen testing and Darren pointed out he's like yeah but it can also be used just to make your sysadmin life easier when you don't want to have to keep typing in the same commands all the time for things these are great examples of a totally non malicious in any way use of the rubber duckie it's a great hack to help Randy set up all of these thousands of Chromebooks I hadn't even thought about the fun of putting that PO into the school department like yep a bunch of rubber duckies that's what we bought they're not actually rubber duckies anymore they're just USB drives thank you Randy for that and thank you Veronica Belmont for joining us as always of course thank you for having me as always what is going on to tell the folks about if you guys use Slack for a 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skinnegraded circuits that ties in with the main discussion that'll be the tiebreaker let's let him ride though get in there and vote if you're watching live well one of the mislabeled fish see the problem with the whole tracking thing though is it really depends on the integrity of the shipper like they're not going to substitute something along the way well that's why that Google Oceana joint project is so important to kind of give some validation to like these boats are the ones that are doing what they say they're doing and so you have a high level of confidence that they haven't done anything fishy like they did harpoon shamu and then masqueraded as like rock cod mostly they caught skate but when they got back to shore they said they had all these different kinds of fish it's like tuna can tune it it could be dolphin meat actually it's never dolphin meat that would be more expensive wouldn't it well dolphin I mean all cetaceans are kind of fatty animals subcutaneous blubber and all they just subcutaneous so you do the long line catch tuna, tuna all right it looks like it's integrated circuits is it oh yeah it's starting to run away with it now but remember Usain Bolt looked like he was going to lose the 100 meter dash halfway through yesterday too so it's true all right I have to go eat food yeah go eat some fish we've made you hungry tuna all right thanks guys see you later can you imagine if you did something where like I just thought of a great thing for the circuit right you do it between your fingers or your toes and so if you need to you can like you're in an emergency and you need to send out a distress beacon you can just like close your fingers so you're thinking this could solve the the issue of the automatic phone thing that we were talking about last week yeah totally because you just have it tattooed on you probably your feet probably wouldn't be a great place because it'd be all sweaty from walking but your hands unless you do it between your butt cheeks and then you have to clench really hard complete the circuit not sure I like that idea clench to complete the circuit you just are watching a scary movie and you accidentally set it off but like you say like you would have to you know I guess someone could smack your hand too but it could be be like I'm in trouble you know what it could be like a prayer you could hold your hands together like this so it's like you're praying for your life but what you really do is complete your circuits to send out the emergency beacon say your prayers rabbit alright skin-integrated circuits is our choice skin-integrated circuits circuits that are skin-integrated they're integrated into your skin that's how you know you're gonna win can you imagine if you did a modern version of the illustrated man the skin-integrated man well like all his tattoos are just like those they're just basically semi-conductive tattoos and you can play them like an instrument oh yeah it'd be like real life operation oh you know what you could be like the you could connect it to an Arduino board connect it to like a synthesizer module and then you could like tattoo like keys on your forums and have people come up and like play you so good way good way to break the ice when you're a bar single-bar hey ladies would you like to play a little tune on my wrist I'm not sure about that one Roger I'm not sure I just don't know anymore I probably should date more if I'm gonna understand that you should but I won't cause I don't need to well stop being so bound by societies by social norms why are you so uptight man yeah come on it's the it's the teens so the house two doors up caught fire last night like wait was this the house that they're working on no it's the other direction from the house they're working on so were you advised to vacate your house no we didn't although I immediately went and grabbed my phone put on the scanner and put collars on the dogs and got every it got my wallet in my pocket and everything just in case cause at first when they first showed up there was smoke coming out of the top of the house and they jumped up on the top of the house with a chainsaw yeah and I was like okay this will be interesting and they were there for a couple hours before they finally put it all out but within like 15-20 minutes it seemed like they had the majority of it under typically they want to see where if there's any there's smoldering that could reignite which is the problem especially with furniture they seemed like they were spending a lot of time around the fireplace even though what my neighbor her daughter lives in that house so it's my neighbors and then their daughter lives next to them and she said it was the microwave that started the fire but I can imagine it might have spread and who knows the second time there's been a fire on this block in a year wait a minute so there was another home the last one was two doors up the other direction the house on the other side no the house on the other side of the one they're working on the one they're working on has never caught fire cause they're still always working on it maybe but that one was caused by somebody throwing a cigarette into the recycling bin and catching all the paper on fire was it the homeowner that did that or is it some passerby it's rented out that's the worst thing that always freaks me out in the fire yeah we would not have been able to leave our driveway had we needed to go anywhere we didn't but they had the whole street blocked off I was ready I was ready for them to be like ladies and gentlemen we can't stop it that's why I have renters insurance paranoid well renters insurance also is just a good idea although you know the supposedly if my car gets robbed and it's in front of my house they cover that too but it can't be on the other side of town we had to get it and it covers one thing we didn't realize was it covers dogs too like if someone took your dog they give you a replacement dog you know I wasn't I don't know that's a good question more like if the dog does something on your property you're covered you know like it chews up it's dog bites mostly which I'm not worried about but like even damage if they damage somebody's property choose it up that's what I would more expect could happen Shane says ACE detect here in Brooklyn we have suspicious fires all the time those old factories tend to blow up real good and miraculously turn it to luxury condos yeah I've been watching the get down Shane I'm aware of that it's kind of the whole premise of that first episode yeah it's it's pretty shady in some of those spots having having family worked in that business and have had to rub shoulders with that level of business what do you want done okay no questions asked yeah no neither one of these fires on my block were of that classification one was there one was was just like come on you don't throw a lit cigarette out into a big thing full of paper like think first the other one was a microwave fire which that happens people I have a hard time finding people that smoke anymore if it's not like outside of a bar except let me take that back smoke cigarettes you are in San Francisco after all man it's got like we drove we were driving back from Modesto and I was driving on the overpass through when you get into San Francisco from the bay bridge and you can smell it already it's like come on you gotta be kidding me yeah that can't be real you're imagining that no Jen spelt it too it's like we either drove right over you must have that must have just been a lucky my neighbor that two doors down and she opens the window and there's a cloud that gets sucked in through my skylight in the bathroom it's that's crazy it's annoying alright I believe I have successfully posted our show oh no I see an error this is why I check using a screen reader click here why did that not oh there's did you wrong yeah no I know I put the wrong link I put the embed code in the using a screen reader code how did that how did I do that that's the part I don't understand alright I why check see the system is working it is working for you working for me okay now the embed code went away well this is fun strong episode cancelled this is how we make sausage yeah I like sausage there we go now everything's there there's such a thing as beef sausage because most sausage I see is pork pork and chicken yeah sure you can make beef why wouldn't you be able to there's beef hot dogs that's essentially a sausage I'm all skeptical of the claims of all beef are you we need a tracking system like the fish you know that's the thing I want to cut back on fish too to ones that are sustainably harvested but it's hard because there's a lot of endangered species like so tasty that you can't resist them well they mislabel like Chilean sea bass can be the Patagonian to fish that's the whole idea with the system is to make sure those mislabelings would I just go for farm fish I go for Talapia you can find farm fish like there was a story today about farm fish now is like more prevalent than unfarmed fish except for salmon farm salmon is bad supposedly introduces fish lice sea lice I think pretty much doing anything as a human is bad we should just leave I am going to go get an icy are you really I wish I knew where there was an icy they're really hard to find now does 7-eleven not have them anymore there's no 7-eleven there I don't have any 7-elevens within 3 miles of me we have 7-elevens all over the place down here what's because the target has icies no I think there's a city target near me I don't know if the city targets have the same food options I got chicken McNuggets at the Walmart on Friday and the shapes were exactly the same as always wait so does it have McDonald's I'm guessing yeah because they have a McDonald's at the Walmart that's what I'm thinking of and I'm guessing that they've changed the recipe but not the form of the chicken McNuggets does it taste more or less like chicken it tastes exactly like it always has all it is is mechanically separated leftover chicken after they get all the prime cut supreme it's like when you at the end of Thanksgiving when you're just pulling the meat off of the turkey bones the little scraps you know what the food industry is probably one of the more efficient because nothing is wasted everything is used that whole idea of running a grocery store is so complicated like I know there's a good system for it but like keeping things fresh and then knowing how to stock inventory so that you make money and then knowing what to do with the things that don't sell but can still be resold or turned into something else like so complex well then was it France or one of those countries mandated that produce like bad produce or end of shelf life produce that had to be given to charity like instead of just being dumped yeah they do something similar here they take things from the whole foods that they can't sell anymore and they give them to the senior center because one day my neighbor was like do you want any of this stuff they gave it to me and I don't want it she was actually much nicer when she said it the night she didn't have it like well they probably gave it because the fruit's all soft and it's easier to chew for the older folks it wasn't even the fruit I remember the canned food store Modesto now it's the Staples but they basically had the last two weeks shelf life of canned food and they sold it at like 60% off Railroad salvage and Mulberry Grove used to do that too some of it was actually railroad salvage but a lot of it was just that kind of outlet wait a minute so it was actually yeah railroad salvage started go around whenever there was a train wreck of a freight train and he would buy up the stuff that fell off the freight train and he'd go through and he'd get rid of all the dinged and damaged stuff that he couldn't sell and then he'd find gems and he would put it in his store I don't mind if it's dinged as long as it's not from like botulism or something that would swell the can yeah exactly so yeah that's where I got Splinter of the Mind's Eye it was at Railroad Salvage in Mulberry Grove huh interesting it was a three pack of Star Wars the novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye and then I can't remember what the third book was I think it was like a making of like a so he came off the train that way or they just packaged it so well like what probably happened because when you go to the store they would just have the books on the shelf for sale but what probably happened was there was a box of those books on a freight car that was in an accident and got thrown off the train and so he went and bid to like just buy the stuff that had fell off the train they shrink wrapped it like all three books together well yeah the books were already shrink wrapped that's the way they were supposed to be sold in the stores yeah I'm just managing this guy like taking all these books no no no all right thanks everybody for watching we will be back tomorrow with Chris Christensen and Mr. Patrick Beja a triumphant return from his European vacation talk to you then