 Good afternoon, ladies and gents, my name is Darren Belly I work for the audit survey. And today's session we're going to be looking at some ideas for fill work using digital up for schools at the end is going to be using on that software. Hopefully you better take some of these and use them please guys if you've got any questions or observations, please pop them in the chat we will be monitoring the chat as we go through this. So please fire any questions at us, the session should be about half an hour 40 minutes, so we need some questions need some time for some questions at the end of anybody's got any. So what are the first guys i'm just going to share the screen with you so i'm going to walk you through how we do some of these things in digital math schools. So hopefully, guys, you can see the digital map for school service on your screen. So we're going to look at a set some products and fieldwork ideas. i'm not going to necessarily categorize these as primary secondary i'll leave it up to you guys to feel where you can fit these in across key stage one to four. But it's all about showing you some of the tools and functionalities within the service that may help you with some file fieldwork ideas now i'm building off the. webinar and parks and run recently where he mentioned fieldwork and has. Alan actually pointed out feel what doesn't necessarily mean being in a field. There are different ways to look at it feel work in the classroom looking at a map or using your own school grounds to explore a location, we can do this to be deemed as feel what we don't actually have to be outside at a particular location. So if you guys hopefully are not all new to digital skills, you have some idea how some of this works, so I will show some examples and how to use some of the functionality. So what we're going to look at is just investigating our own place so i'm going to zoom in on the audit survey HQ to start. So looking at where do I live, where do I go, do I understand my own place so looking at the fieldwork around our location. Can we explore looking at different scales as well using a map so i'm going to use something called what we call a buffer tool. So i'm going to come over to my drawing tools on the left here click on the tool that says buffer and I want to explore first of all at this scale within half a kilometer. Of my locations and this case i'm at the audit survey HQ so this could be your school so i'm going to click on the map and it will draw me this circle with half a kilometer circle. So we can look at this and explore the geography of our place now, as Alan rightly said in his webinar you might have pupils that only travel one way into school. And they never understand what's on the other side of the school location so let's look at what's within a particular vicinity with us in this case half a kilometer. So we can see what this looks like, so if we were to look at our place, can we find how many kind of houses there are can we identify shops can we find green spaces bus stops tube stations now is there a river near us that we can see within a particular distance what type of roads have we got on our location. Are there any map symbols on this particular scale of map we can be looking at so all those things we can identify again around our place. don't worry Sam i'm just going to redo what we did him to do a different scale, so this is looking at half a kilometer. Now, as hopefully you guys know within the digital map for school services are lots of different scales so i'm going to zoom my map out. And look at a one to 25 came up here, and this time we're going to say well if I draw a bigger buffer this time at one kilometer so come into my drawing tools. clicking on buffer this time using one kilometer what does that now look like in our area so looking at different locations, but our place. But exploring what's in that locality so again can we see different building types rivers, this time we can see a few more schools and the locality. Exactly on all those kind of things so wait just to use your own school location to look at the geography of your place, so this could be deemed to be field work, which is a really nice way to use a nice simple tool to show this in a location. Of course, you can mix and match your scales, you can down at down to half a kilometer a large scale to five kilometers a smaller scale and look at all the places this encompasses in your location. So i'm just going to delete my circle off what we're going to do is at this time we're going to use aerial imagery to look at our place. So using a key stage one you know using a real entry to interpret place and location and i'm going to use the map selector on my map here. And i'm actually going to put aerial x on so we've got two choices for aerial aerial and aerial x aerial x just adds the place names and road names, so I want to explore around the online survey location. Looking at the places so i'm going to look at all the names in a location, so I can see this place is called hilly fields and it has certain names. For the roads around here, I can see the buildings, etc, etc, so the first thing I would look at is do the do the roads in our location have a theme. So are they named after different things when we're exploring our place. Where I was brought up all the build all the roads were named after places in the lake district, so we had a window mirror avenue a door and close. Oldswater road all those kind of things to do this, do they have a fee when we're looking at the roads in our location can we use an error was to explore this looking at our locality. Again, do we see lots of houses looking the same do we see lots of green space in our location so looking at what the land is used for and if we zoom in. Can we start to look at the buildings, can we see how many buildings have got solar panels, so could we look in our location and say how many of these how many of our houses i've got solar panels, if it's a new housing estate are they building on the new houses so looking at those kind of things as well. Coming back to green spaces, you know how big are these green spaces, so we can see we've got a nice one here. And I can use a simple measurement tool coming down to the fifth tool down on the left here, and I can measure an area, so we can plot around an area. Working out how big this particular location is when we look at a green space so clicking around on the points can be very rough like so so how big are the green spaces in our location when we look at these on our map. So compare in those two different places so maybe urban rural locations again looking at that field work element. So let's delete that measurement off and one of the really nice things to be able to use with maps are to be able to use images. So we can see some images so i'm just going to turn my OS map back on. So we're going to use some images using the geographic images so using the image search tool here on the left, we can come down to where it says image search. We can click on that one now I want to look at all the images on this piece of mapping so my little image search box here where it says search geographic images i'm just going to pop a star in there so shift tonight. And it will show me all the images that have been collected through this crowdsourced tool, so we can investigate some of the places we can see on the images here. So let's look at what we got over on the left, we've got the entrance to hilly fields. We can then click on that image and look at it in a slightly more detail looking around these images, we can look at the os HQ. So we can see what this likes and letting it exploring our place looking at our location that nice little field work element just using these fantastic geographic images that we have on the screen here. So i've got one here, so the walnut tree farm here, so this was an image before the pub was built, so this is what it looked like before. And this is how we can then go and collect a picture of how it looks now so using these images to work as well to look at change in a location. So there's lots of fantastic ways we can use these and go into a different location using our geographic images so let's go and explore a little coastal location so i'm going to go off to a place called manifold down in dorset. So i'm going to come in on this nice little coastal location and we're going to zoom in coming down into the beach. Looking at a different place a different location. Again exploring this and this time it's pop some geographic images on. We can see all these fantastic images again, we can explore so we can see things like seawalls so if we're talking about. Engineering in a location or see defenses and we put in we can see the seawall in fact what we're doing our search here is will pop in the phrase seawall and see what images it shows us. So we can see these and again give pupils perception of what these look like so we can see the seawall and the boulders for engineering here so a great way just to use these very simple tools. Around a location looking at our place without leaving the classroom to do a nice little bit of fieldwork and exploring another place using a fantastic geographic images. So let's look at some of the stuff that i've got to look at using your location using some of the tools within did you map for schools. So one of the first ones i'm going to show you guys again this is just using your own school grounds with your younger pupils. Exploring your place or the geography of your school so a particular favorite one of mine is this one's called what are these okay so taking obscure pictures of things around your school ground. Okay so going to take some very strange angles of pictures or places or things on your school locality. So, can your pupils go out and explore and find these in their low within the school grounds and that locality, or could you get them to actually come in and actually pinpoint where they are so you might give them the map. And you might move your images around so I can drag my markers and my images, maybe put them all to one side and say do you know where these are could we remember where they were on the school grounds, so can we move the images to the right points. But it's just again a really nice way to use your school location. And of course you'll be kind enough to give them the one with the actual images so they can see the picnic bench the car charging point etc etc. So just using your own school locality and another good one for these is collecting things like what different types of animals can we see. Can we see different but do we see birds do we see other different wildlife on our own school grounds. And if we're lucky enough to grab a picture of that, can we link that picture to the map to find where we showed these. And one I've gone out and done in the last couple of days guys using an absolutely awesome image which I will pop into the chat. An app sorry called plant net I don't have any of you guys have seen this one so it's on my iPhone. And what it does, if you take a picture of a leaf on a tree for instance, it will tell you what type of tree is so again looking at all the kind of flora and fauna around your school so looking at the diversity. of the plant lights or trees around your own school locality going out collecting images of these particular. trees using your plant net app telling you what type of tree is and then you can record those and link them onto our map and using the image tool for you guys have not done this we can come down to the image tool here. We can use any one of these markers very conveniently we've got a tree one, so we can click on a map, and then find an image and link it to our map. So again, exploring your own school grounds, and I think this is quite a little neat thing to do to find out the different types of trees, you have in your location. So now let's look at getting out around the school, so then building it from in the classroom to our own school locality and then going out in our location. So we're going to do show you a map here, which is around what we call a symbols walk so this is linking in. Ordinance survey symbols, okay which will find a key stage to and key stage three. So looking and identifying on a survey symbols. So the kind of thing you can do with your pupils, so this is my completed symbols map but I'll walk you through how we do this okay so it's about finding your location. Finding all the ordinance survey symbols that you can see in your locality. And if you come over to the left hand panel guys as a button that says key, so you'll be able to identify what you think those symbols are using the legend and key here on the left hand side. And the idea is for this little bit of field work is you're going to plan a route with your pupils that will take you past as many of these symbols as you can see in your location. And then ideally what you'll do is you'll go out on that walk with your pupils just around the vicinity of your location and collect images of those symbols. So again, exploring our location with a little bit of field work linking images to symbols. So with our drawing tools guys I'm just going to do this on the side here for you guys are not use this tool, I can use a very simple line drawing tool, and I can plot a route around a location like so. Plotting where we go, and then drawing a route. And as we go on our journey we're going to collect the images of those symbols what we think those symbols represent and then pin them to our map, which is a nice way to do it. There was another way of doing this as well guys if you have in a location where you don't have a lot of ordinance survey symbols. There are some things we do not symbolize. So you could also do a non symbols walk. So all the things on a survey don't do symbols for so things like postbox like rubbish bins, like playgrounds like drains like telephone posts. So you can do that looking at the things that are not normally seen on an ordinance survey map, but with the same concept of going out and exploring your location to do this, which is quite a nice little piece of geography to do with your pupils at key stage to key say three. So let's look at the next one again linking into field work around the school locality and that's looking at land use. So land use is a really nice piece of geography to do mentioned a key stage to but also very relevant for key stage three and dare I say into key stage four. So let's go and send them back in on the OHQ very quickly before I show you my map. There's two ways you can do this guys you can do this online like we've got here highlighting those particular buildings, but if you do zoom right in on your map. And come to overlays. What we can do is we can create probably the inappropriately named coloring in map, but what this gives us a black and white example of that location. You can potentially print this out with your pupils and they can go out and physically survey and highlight particular buildings in the location with this base map and using it with your pupils that way okay. Ideally we would like you to be able to use the technology to create land use maps collecting data and presenting that using GIS. So let's look at what we mean by land use map. So, I have an example from a school down here in Hampshire. So it's about exploring and looking at what the land is used for in our location. Now this is a really nice piece of geography to getting your pupils outside field work element collecting presenting data. The conversation to have with the pupils is when you create a map you have to symbolize it create a key, how we're going to collect the information to better show people. So as a conversation to have around how we're going to symbolize the information. So this one's about a local area where they just go out and they record what all the buildings are used for based on the criteria that we discussed before you go. So linking that into your geography that way as well. So land use is a really really nice one to be able to link him. Now if we look at another example this may be at key stage three, possibly at key stage for slightly more detail one, this is looking land use the central business district. So going out and survey what's in your local town your local city center, and again looking at the land use creating a simplified key and this time linking images to key buildings in the location. Stephanie just asked how do I find the symbols on an OS map. So if you go to the panel on the left Stephanie underneath my drawing tools the second tool in says key. So this will give you the key for every different scale of map you have on the screen. So we can see the point features of this scale at this one. Okay, etc. So we as you go through the different scales you will see different symbols for those relevant scales of maps. One thing you can also add in guys if you're doing your fieldwork doing something like a central business or your land use. What you can do bring in some geographical skills we can also record grid references. So if we click on a place. Okay we've got a picture pin here to IKEA so what's the grid reference for IKEA, I click on the map it will give me the grid reference for that location. So using your grid reference skills linking nose in a key stage to or into key stage three again finding grid references of key buildings in your locality. Now somehow advocate that lots of teachers do. When you guys go on a field trip. Why not use digital map schools in the classroom before you go to plan your journey. Look at where we're going to travel to have that conversation with your pupils. Now look at the places will go what kind of places will we pass. Can we see some of the will we see some of the things we're going to. Gonna pass as we go look at the place we're going to visit. You know and then again linking your geographic images of some of the places we may go past we recognize this could we take these offers we go on a little journey to say, I don't remember passing that particular building or that particular location. So using digital map schools to plan that in your that route in your locality as well which is a really nice one to do. Okay guys let's look at another one we can do this so coming back to that theme a little bit of theme looking at land use. Before I move on some was just asked a question can you set it to four six figure good references. Okay, row how this works, the more detailed the map, the more detailed the grid reference will be. So you need to find the appropriate scale for it to show you four and six figures okay now there is a way to round up or make an eight figure six figure is you just remove the last number of each group. So if I wanted to turn this into this eight figure reference into a six figure reference, I would just record it as four one five one one six. You are supposed to round them up, but to make it simplified you can just remove the last one of each set of numbers. So coming back to looking at shops and a locality, how about doing the shop survey with your pupils. So going out and looking at what different types of shops, do we have in our immediate vicinity. So, I've gone to my local local precinct where I live, and I've recorded all the shops. So I want to look at how many of them are chains, how many of them are independent, and how many empty buildings are there. So again taking your pupils out recording what that information is creating a simple key. Okay, simple very simple and easy key, but looking at the different types of shops we have in a location. So can we find them and again you could be linking images of those shops. Is it healthy for our precinct to be having lots of independent shops, or we prefer to see lots of chain shops in those locations. So looking at that in your own high street and recording that information, looking at the diversity of those. And again out in your local central business district or in your tourist location. So maybe looking at tourism and a locality, you could be out collecting information from individuals so why have you come to our town are you here shopping do you live locally collecting information about why people visit you. And then using the text box tool. You can click on a map to record where we spoke to these people. And in your text box, you can record the information that you've collected and add that to your map. So saying we can we spoke to people here they were holidaying etc etc. So linking those kind of elements in. So what we're going to look at now guys is going to go on to one step further, looking at some ideas for using digital map schools for feel we're going to look at data collection. So on the left hand panel, coming down to the six to down you have an option to add your own data. So I'm going to explore a couple of ways we can do this and try and make it kind of user friendly to do this so you as you can see got lots of different file formats here. We've got shapefiles KML GPX, etc, etc. Now I'm going to use to I'm going to use GPX, which is what we can use to collect a route when we're out walking. We're going to do CSV CSV is the use of data tables. And this is collecting data when you're out exploring your location, putting it into a simple spreadsheet and then creating a map from the data that you've collected. So ways we can do this and geo reference the information we have without how to physically doing on a map using the software's capability to do that for us. And on the panel at the top here guys you have the help pages. So I'm quickly going to click on the help pages. So when you're stuck with any of the tools in here, the help pages are there for you to use. Now I'm going to look at adding our own data. So this will give me a very quick explanation of what this is and how I can do it but we're going to walk our way through this. This gives me as it gives me the file formats we can create, and it also shows me how I can create my file using geo referenced information. So when we use this with a particular piece of software, we have to have a geo locator somewhere in the information that we've got. So this can be either a postcode, as it says the Eastings Nordings grid, grid references Latin long. So we need to kind of have one of those to identify place and then we can create this data sheet to collect information, always use the help files if you're struggling guys. Okay. Now hopefully I'm going to show you an example here on the screen of an Excel spreadsheet. Okay, so this is my CSV file that I've created. So I've used an app and I'll pop these into the chat guys now for iPhone. It's a really good app called grid point GB. So I'm going to pop that in the chat. You don't have an iPhone you can use one called OS locate and they will record to either a 10 or six figure good reference so we can collect fairly accurate location based information. As you can see on mine guys I've collected it by grid reference so I have a 10 figure reference for my location. So I went around with my iPhone in my locality. I've recorded just taking a screen grab of where I was stood with the location. And what I wanted to do with mine is I wanted to create I want to collect as well the decibel levels in a location. So the sound in a locality. So another app I used again these are all free guys that you can go and download. So the one I used to record the decibel levels is one called simply called decibel meter. Stephanie's popped a chat in there. One in the chat there. I'm going to pass that one over to Laura to answer. So you can see on my spreadsheet I have two for I have to two columns one says grid ref because that's my location based information. So again it could be postcode is northern that long and then I have to have a label. So my label in this case is the sound the noise level at those locations I was stood at. So you can do this around any of the locality or again around your school location sending your pupils out hopefully go you guys will have some iPads in the in your schools. They can go out collect where they stood collect the sound levels and look at that around your school location. So what I'm going to do. I'm just going to refresh my map to make sure this works correctly. And I'm going to see if I can load that spreadsheet into digital map for schools. Now schools goes really slow to add to add my own data. I'm going to click browse. And then I've just got to navigate to where my particular file is. So let's go and find my file. There is sound levels so I can click open. Take a couple of seconds, then I get an option to import. What it would do will instantly geo reference those points on a map. So we don't have to physically. Put them in the location. We can use this spreadsheet that we collected a CSV file to load it directly onto our maps are collecting that data around your location. So this one was around about sound levels. This is my location where I live. So where is the noisiest location. Unsurprisingly, it's up here in the location where the busy road is, but looking at those different sound levels in a school environment. What we did in the morning did in the afternoon is there a difference in sound levels around your location, which is the quietest point, which is the noisiest point. And again, using your own school location. Could you collect other data such as temperatures. What are the temperatures summer winter different types of day. Can we can we collect rainfall where that falls in a location so we, we could collect the rain for the locality. We could get wind speeds, all those kind of things we can do around a location. We can collect when you create your spreadsheet. So you've got your two columns. We obviously need to save that. For you guys that aren't experts at using Excel, we need to get a file and save as now this has to be saved as a particular type of file which will explain in the help page. It has to be saved as a CSV comma delimited file. So when you save it, make sure it's this file format that you're saving it to save as an Excel workbook. It won't work within the software. It has to be an ex CSV file that we have to use. But it's a great way just to use your own location and collecting this data with your pupils and going out and exploring again, but bringing in that extra element of using data tables. Okay, you could introduce this at key stage to definitely relevant key stage three key stage four and the sound level one is a good one to do is a group exercise. So you could get all your pupils to go home record the sound level where they were and look at where who has the noisiest location, who lives in the noisiest locality collating this all into one nice spreadsheet. So I'm going to show an example here to key stage four. One is about going out and do some fieldwork so key stage four you have to you still have to do two pieces of fieldwork to contrasting locations, so you could be one around your central business location or your local shops. And then hopefully you will have the opportunity to go out and explore, hopefully a coastal location. So the example I'm going to show on the screen here guys is around a beach locality. This was my own daughter's key stage four field trip to the beach. Okay, it's part of their fieldwork element for key stage four but it's the kind of thing again you could be doing if you go around any beach locality. And this was looking at they had to do it's part of their day out, they had to go and collect the sand heights at the groins in the location. Okay, so they were looking at did the sand heights relate. So observing the information they collect does it relate to longshore drift in this location. So what I did with with this group is as my daughter her friends went around and collected the information. I recorded using the gridpoint GB app, the location of where they were stood. So recorded that location. I stole the piece of paper she had with the sand heights on took a photo of that, turn that into that Excel spreadsheet that I showed you a minute ago. And then we managed to be able to upload that into did you map for schools. So we could make a map straight away for the students on the information they've collected so collecting measuring information and then presenting that data, showing the heights of the sand level, so that was a location so could they make that correlation between longshore drift based on the sand heights at these locations. So you can collect lots and lots of data when you're in the field. And there are some secondary sources you can go and collect data from as well and use within the same way. So what are going to do next guys the final little one we're going to show here is this is using a GPX tracker. So this is collecting group information. So I used a file. Sorry, an app called very simply called GPX tracker. And again guys it's free to download. So you can go and download this onto your iPhone or into your smartphone. And what it will record it will record your journey as you travel in a location. So again using our add data tool. I can link this in. Now this is really nice guys because it's going to link into lots of things looking at travel and transport, those kind of things around fieldwork. It could be our roots to school if we all mapped our roots to school. We're looking at fieldwork we're looking at the safety of our roads. So those kind of things could we look at traffic calming measures can we identify busy roads can we work out how far people travel. So again around the field of your locality. Or if you guys key stage three key stage four if you do Duke of Edinburgh, it could be recording the lengths of your journeys. And when you do your badges you have to do 1619 or 23 kilometers so you could be recording these particular journeys. So I'm going to come over to add my own data again. I've done this earlier on to click on browse, hopefully go and find my GPX file. So which is this one here. So I'm going to click open. I'm going to click import. So it is here's my walk around the audit survey building. Now, it does look like I was slightly drunk as I was wandering around here, but that's the difference between the resolution actually of our data. There is an option to use open street mapping that I would suggest you use that one that's the most accurate one, but it portrays that route on my map so we don't have to plot this, we can show the route that we travel on. So here's your location. And of course using your drawing tools guys. You can also measure your roots. So wherever I click on the map. It will give me the length of that journey as well. So I said linking into your roots to school as a class exercise, looking at your location of those traffic calming measures. It could be just your walk around your school grounds your school location can be recorded as we go show this on a map. And I said links into Duke of Edinburgh. So there's lots of ways and and some of the technology we can use the digital maps digital schools that will link into lots of really nice fieldwork you can do with your pupils. And as Alan said fieldwork doesn't have to be in the field. It can be just in the school grounds or just using a map with your pupils to explore place and location. So I said guys going to be about half an hour we've been half an hour. And my suggestion is well guys go and look at the geographical associations website. They've got lots of fantastic ideas for looking at fieldwork both primary and secondary, as do the Royal Geographical Society. So those two websites I was going to have a look they've got lots of resources you can use there. We also have some links on our website. So I'm going to show you this on the screen. So you can go to the homepage on digital map for schools. And if you come into helping resources and the learning resources. You guys might not know these here. So again you've got primary or secondary. Let's quickly look at primary. We can see all the resources but we can also select by different categories and how we want to use these. So we're looking at geographical skills and fieldwork. We've got a whole host of little booklets here that will look at some of those fieldwork elements you can use with your pupils. These are all free to use guys to come and have a look at these see if they're relevant for your location and you can be using these as fieldwork ideas with your pupils. And the last thing I'm going to say guys. On the sixth to the 10th of June. It is National Fieldwork Week. So look out for something from the from the geographical association. They will be doing lots of stuff around fieldwork how you can engage with maps and mapping. Again using some of the stuff we've done here your own grounds getting out and exploring a location. So be lots of ideas coming out from the GA's website on that week. Lots of guest speakers lots of people tweeting about it. So keep your eyes open for that. So guys said we're going to be a half and we've been half an hour bang on the case of shiny some examples. So you can take some of these and use these. I'm quite happy to now hang around and answer some of the questions that we've got in the chat here. So looking at these we've got one from Rosa can you make the text on the screen bigger please okay so we can do that so whenever we had a text label. When we originally add a text label. We can dictate how big or small is so I can say I want it to be a certain font size. Let's make it 72. And let's type something in. And it should be nice and big and bold on our map. Now if it gets too big or too small you want to change that guys you can just click back on your label. He says and now it's not working of course because I'm live on a demo. Okay we should be able to click back on your label here we go. And then change that font size if it's too big too small to show on your map so we can do that quite straightforward and quite easy. Karen said do you deliver training in person we do do training Carol and the same for anybody who's interested in whole school training sessions. I will pop my email address into the chat any of you guys are interested in hosting session for your staff please drop me a line that doesn't need to be a minimum of 15 teachers but if you can accommodate 15 teachers and drop me a line and we're quite happy to talk about how we can do this. Somebody asked do you do these apps create a CSV files you need to write the values or and create a Excel spreadsheet. While I would say to that one is you have to create this spreadsheet yourself. Okay there are places you can go and download data. A couple of favorites of mine are the USGS website and the police website, but to create your own data you will need to record this yourself. The simple thing to do if you're recording your location, take a screen grab. Put that on your phone so you don't have to write it down, you can just take a screen grab with your information and then use that to populate your spreadsheet or your CSV file and use it that way. Okay, so any other questions guys. If not, I'm going to hand back over to just say that's a couple of questions coming in. Fantastic is some great ways to do that. Yeah I can show four and six figures again so there are a couple of options for four and six figures. So we do have a good reference tool so if I zoom and map out. What I'll actually do is I will show you the national grid overlay first. So one of the really nice things we've got is to be able to show this grid and grid reference skills. So using the overlay tool here on the left, I can actually turn on the national grid system. So where we get these points and coordinates from. Okay so we can see the overlay the grid here and the grid locations. And this time if we pop in a postcode so I'm going to go back to the US HQ. And what it will do is overlay my six figure grid. So I can show this on top of my map so you can see I've got my six figure grid around the location. And also importantly it tells me which 100 kilometer grid square I'm in. So first with our British national grid system so you can go along the corridor and up the stairs to collect your grid reference data. And I said there is a grid reference tool, but the only thing to be wary of is the accuracy of the map. The more accurate that is the more accurate the grid reference will be. So if you come out to this scale where it says 100 meters in the bottom right hand corner. You will then get a six figure reference if you scale it back out to us to a smaller scale you will then get a full figure reference so you can play with those different scales. So where as you said can I view your recorded webinar is going to be posted out to the malaria in a couple of days. Yeah, a few days after the event so it will be likely if not next week will be the other. But yeah we will be sending them to all of our registrants. Okay guys I said we're happy to hang around for the next 10 or so minutes if anybody's got any questions. Thank you so much for watching guys hope you found that useful come along keep looking at the webinars we've got posted on the website for ideas and keep your eye out for the webinars that will be running in the future as well.