 So we hear the ID TechEx show and who are you? My name is Paul Brooke and our company is called Conductive Transfers. We're based in the north of England in a beautiful part of the world called Sheffield and we've developed a process for replacing wires within wearables and it's called a heat transfer so basically what we're doing is we're printing a series of layers and one of those layers is a conductive circuit and it's stretchable, it's got soft feel, it's durable, washable, high conductivity and low resistance. Make a cable? Yeah it's basically what we're doing is we're replacing wires within wearables so anybody that's looking to get into wearable technology can utilize our process as a platform for creating the wearable products for the future. We're into full-scale production for this process within the medical sector so there's many applications. So here for example is this shirt? Yeah like this particular project could potentially it's a generic design just showing what's possible for example for being an ECG so this would normally be on the inside of the gamut. Does it work? Is it tight enough? Yeah no not this particular one it's just really showing you know what is actually possible with the the process and the product. What do you have here? Yeah we're we've been developing quite quite a lot of different things we've developed a printable heater so it's it's just ink so basically the heater heats up to around about 45 degrees should be able to see that it's changing the battery power. It's changing? Yeah it's heating up so the actual transfer is heating up so what we've done is we put over the top of it thermochromic ink to show that the temperature so to show that the ink is changing the heat. So the whole thing becomes more yellow? Well that's right it becomes an actual heater for you know for wearable products you know. Is it a line of heating though? Not this particular one no but the whole thing the whole thing with with our technology it really is the anti-imagination as to what you can use it for. And this? It's thousands of applications. What is this one? Again it's just showing that our circuitry can go on to many different fabrics whether it be polyester, cotton, nylon but also we can include an image with it if required. So can you do data and power? Yeah so it's both for using for passing power through but you can also use it for passing data and obtaining information from the body, pressure sensors, all sorts of things. And as low-cast? Yeah it's very affordable it's scalable as we can set it from prototype to production very very quickly. And washable? Yeah washable yeah we've achieved amazing results on durability you know depending. How many times you can wash it? Yeah we can achieve 50 washes at 40 degrees or more depending what the customer specifically needs. We can adapt the print technique to achieve whatever they require really. How much data and how much power you can transfer through one of these for example? Yeah it depends it depends a lot on the design and specific needs really but it's you know accommodate you know whatever you actually you know particularly require. With this material? Yeah it's like a man-made product but it's showing again the different surfaces that you can go on to you know really stretchy materials. So are you having a big market or how's your sales? Yeah I mean we were into like I say full-scale production for a medical company. I've got a product out there on the market but it's you know each and every product that we work with we individual companies everyone is different so you know whether it be for medical, automotive, sportswear there's so many different applications for it and it's just as I said before it's down to the imagination of the the brand or the innovators you know if you can draw it we can print it using our process. How's it been the show ID Tech Act Show? Yeah it's been good you know we've had some really interesting clients in all sorts of different sectors and you know it's following those up and see where it takes as you know certainly got some interesting projects that we're looking for us to work on and you know hopefully these will be consumable products in the near future.