 It is seven o'clock and I will call this meeting of the select board on May 15th to order. First agenda item is to approve the agenda. I have a motion. Motion to approve agenda. Second. Okay, we have a motion to approve. And there is seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All of them are approving agenda as warned. You say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed, any abstentions? The agenda is approved. Next item is the consent agenda. Do I have a motion? I move to approve the consent agenda. All right, second. Motion is seconded, any further discussion? Hearing none. All in favor of the consent agenda. Please signal by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Do you want to take a motion just to acknowledge Nathan who joined us by Zoom? That was his item. Sure. Nathan, welcome and congratulations. Thank you very much everyone. I appreciate it. Street. Anything you'd like to further discuss with the board, Nathan? No, not at this time. Looking forward to getting more involved in the water community. I'm a local resident myself. I bought a home here in 2018. So, yeah, just exciting venture for me and my life and my 16th, 16 month old baby boy. So, we're excited for this new chapter. So thank you for having me. Well, welcome to the community. Relatedly. And congratulations on your new purchase. Looking right around the corner. So I think I'll stop in soon. I hope so. Just for some research. Okay, thanks again for stopping in and congratulations and your second class lecture license has been approved. And I heard no, no votes or any absentee abstentions. No, okay, so the consent agenda is approved. Now's the time for public to voice any, bring up any article that is not on the warning agenda. I request that you try to limit yourself to three minutes and we'd be glad to put a thing you have to require more than that on the agenda for next meeting. Anyone from the public. Yes. First, I want to apologize for going up to every meeting. I just can't sit home and bury my head in the sand with things that are happening in my community because I quite honestly get a damn too much. Second thing is, we talked about. I had a dinner at one point, and I had suggested an open house at the school. A meet and greet with community members. It's still like you consider that anybody that I've mentioned this thought to. Absolutely. Second thing is, they still have concern about the homeless and drug problem. I was talking to a person that they had my private practice office, apparently the state is doing away with the funding for sheltering homeless. First, this particular person went to that meeting. And in his words, said it was, it's going to be a complete shit show. And is personally afraid for his own safety. It was a moment here. I don't know if there's an ordinance in our town. The rest is that issue. If there isn't, the board can say or something like that. You know, my concern, I've talked to you about it before. I don't want to see mainstream. And then this could grow in our business and become run. And I think all the other towns lead on this will be futile because they're failing visibly. In their efforts to combat this problem. So that's it. All right. Thank you. The conservation committee did host that program you participated in to get people's ideas on what they prioritized, what they valued in the community, which I think was an effort to do so. I think it's an effort to do something along what you were suggesting in terms of meet and greet. But did you have any particular day or idea in mind in terms of staging that thing at the school. No, I think it's, you know, I know it's not on. I'm not on your priority list, but I'm telling you, I thought a lot of people about it. Everybody feels disconnected from their neighbors in this community. And I told you before. People are just had a friend of mine. Two weeks ago Friday passed away. He was able to speak in from the conservation part of that. He's got 18 acres right there at the top of Loomis Hill or room is in Brickley and sweet road all come together. Got the two horses there in the field. I was the executor. He asked me to be the executor was moving away but anyway, through that people work we managed to put in the need that that property will never be sub divided. And only one house can be done. That was his will. But anyway, people that I know and grew up with are leaving or dying and met people that are moving in here. A lot of us are unfamiliar with. There's people today that I'm working for on Thursday wrote that there's already a new house in the field. And I think I think it's kind of funny that you'd be surprised how many people you would know that you don't know they're living really close to if you were if you had the chance to be introduced to them. And I guess that's all it doesn't it all takes doesn't have to be any part of this. For me it's this, it's the problem of perception about people. I mean I was sorely mistreated under that pretense. Because people didn't really know who I was. And I guess that's what sunk into me so bad that I think across this country, the discourse and hatred towards each other is simply because you don't know each other. You don't have to agree with them, but to know who they are and get a little bit of understanding about who your neighbor is, I think, would help this community immensely. Yep. Okay. Let's, let's see what we can do, see if we can set something up and I'll be back in touch with you on that homeless thing was something that I talked over with Tom, because we have noticed a couple of new people in town. I don't know if we have a solution quite yet and it's not an agenda to discuss it, but it is something that I'm concerned about. I'm sure the rest of the board is to so continue I don't know if you mentioned on that. I just want to say Chris we appreciate it. I think if there were more people like yourself, it came to board meetings and stuff and participated. I think it would help foster dialogues plus, you know, even foster that what you're talking about you would have a meet and greet you don't want a much smaller level by people showing up and I know it's a, it's a hard sell to do, but you got to try. There was a lot of thoughts in the homeless issue there was a solution to it found it. I guess I think more about unintended consequences of the town pass an ordinance banning. I think sometimes these ordinances are called camping. Are these people worse off as a result, they might know we might not want them in our downtown or we might not want the encampment over there, but I think the encampment kind of by the interchange is an ideal place it's not highly visible. The state police keep tabs on. I have yet to get a complaint about it in terms of any public safety concern people I think there's some heightened awareness of it because I think they've, it's either gotten bigger or they moved it so it's a little more visible from the road now. Even in my small car I can now see it. I think that according to you know the data that 2500 people will be homeless in a few months and, you know, for 1% of the state's population is 25 people in one area. I'm also not certain that that's going to happen in the states kind of see well my doesn't allow that to happen. It appears certain to me that, you know, a good chunk of that will happen it sounds like regardless of now 500 to 1000 people are going to be homeless soon enough. I guess I haven't suggested if you're trying to do right by these people. Probably want to find a way to house them and pay for it as a town. That's a huge way to do some proposition. We don't have a shelter we probably don't have an available building. That's my concern is to not try to deal with this. I'm talking about a handful of homeless right now, but there is the potential for that to become unmanageable with numbers. Unfortunately, society tends to focus on the consequence of the problem instead of the cause, instead of going to the cause and preventing that from happening. They continue to throw money at the consequence and get nowhere other than in deeply in debt. I don't know if the governor signed that changed active this morning. I know is before his desk, that would allow for acreage to be opened up for multiple houses which would hopefully move along our housing problem and in doing so ease up on the homelessness problem as well. So many of the dollars subsidizing these hotels would be people in taking that money into actual construction housing. Instead of the subsidy running out of that. This guy did money. I'm just really briefly I met last year or even maybe a year before with somebody from up here. And I cannot remember if I sent along his information to you or if it was bill at the time so I'm going to look at my email and I'll send it along but somebody with some really good resources. So that, whether it's us or folks in town know maybe who to call so that we're not just like calling the state police and creating bigger and further deeper issues. I'll forward that along to both the board and to you. And then that's also somebody who was willing to meet chat, willing to come to talk to the housing task force as well to help us with some brainstorming and some both short term and long term term planning. But this is a good discussion, but I don't think we're here today to be able to come up with a solution. I think we do need to have an agenda at some point in the near future and agenda item to discuss, you know what we can, can and cannot do and maybe do some research and advance but now we're just going to move on to the next item. Karen then we can put that in the parking lot. All right, any further discussion for the public. All right, we'll move on to the next item library strategic plan. Yes, please. Thank you so much for having me I know we've had to delay multiple times due to family issues. But I just wanted to take this opportunity to update folks on the library strategic plan so we did approve a strategic plan for the library. It's the beginning of this year and a number of you were involved in conversations of as we were developing that plan. I think everybody has probably seen some of the strategic plan information. And it's the full plan is available on our website if you'd like to read through that it's pretty long. The other takeaways from the plan were that we found that there are a lot of people in the community who are very aware of the traditional library services but didn't know so much about some of the other services that we offer, such as one on one tech help and things like that. So we want to make an effort to do more promotion raise awareness, we do want to reach out to underserved communities and find new ways to meet their needs. We want to include newcomers to the United States, homebound people and, and yes unhoused people who are major library users so that's an area that that I see a lot of. And we do want to ensure that the library is a safe and welcoming space for all of those people. It's a wide range of individuals that we serve, but I think we do a pretty good job balancing everybody's needs. So one of that is to review policies and collections to match the interests of the community and provide offerings for everybody who might need those. So how are we doing we're doing great actually I'm really pleased with what we're doing. We've been able to add some hours to our youth library position and rearrange the schedule for our outreach coordinator position so that they both have a little bit more time to get out of the building and do outreach at events in the community. We've been funding staff attendance at professional development programs. And it's been going really well, most interesting our youth library was invited to present at the library journal slash school library journal youth leadership summit in Florida on the success of her peer reads program, which has been providing a very well saved program for kids in the community who are, you know, maybe struggling with their identity or figuring out how we can talk about those things in a safe way. We've expanded services to homebound patrons we've got a much more organized book delivery system in place now. We've partnered with the senior center to get promotional materials out to folks who are meals on meals customers, because that seems like a natural thing for us. We've been refreshing and expanding promotion of some of our underutilized services such as the book delivery tech one on one health and partnerships with community organizations we've been doing more food drives more supplies drives, providing supplies to folks who may not have access to them through, and we are paying for any of those those are all things that that we're getting through donation to wonderful. We're doing an updating policies with an eye towards diversity and inclusion. So far we've completed just one policy we've got a long way to go on that but it's, it's good work that's underway. And we've been training all staff and how to work with a diverse and sometimes challenging community major training that's going to happen on May 20 is a full day mental health first aid training that sometimes we do run into patrons who clearly are experiencing challenges and I want my staff to feel a little bit more comfortable when they're facing those types of issues, updating some staff technology to make communication smoother and expanding our Spanish language book collection and we received a really nice thank you know from social worker who works with a family that's new to the community that speaks Spanish who has been very impressed with what we've done to be welcoming to that, that community. As we are right now, next steps are going to be to assess our hours to make sure that we are best serving our community, and also balancing our staff capabilities because want to make sure staff don't get burnt out if you add additional hours. We're going to continue to update and review those policies through a DEI lens, particularly around material selection so the actual books and materials that we purchased for the library and use the library behavior expectations things like that. We're going to continue to identify promote those underutilized services in fresh ways and looking for interns volunteers with some marketing skills to help us out with that because that's not an area that librarians typically get a lot of training in so if I can find people who are who have that that passion and that skill set that would be wonderful. Eventually we'd like to develop a marketing plan. So that's where we are at my very quick update on the library strategic plan, but I'm happy to answer any questions. We actively currently looking for marketing and social media intern or not quite yet. We, we brought a student in from Bennington College last summer didn't work out quite as I hope so where we are, once we get the other challenge we have been dealing with some staff turnover. And back up in staff again I'll be more actively looking for people in that area. I'd like to have a rep program to mark marketing, marketing, social media, active there. Maybe we could work together, instead of everybody kind of doing their own separately. Yeah. I'm curious about working with the Spanish speaking folks. How are you going about doing. Well, what we discovered was there are so the library becomes a space that people use for meetings, a lot of the time, and we discovered there were a couple families that were coming into me with pretty organizers or social workers or groups like that so it gave us an opportunity to kind of ask what their needs were. So we just started purchasing some books we made a nice display of Spanish language picture books alongside their English language counterparts which was really nice. And we tried to incorporate a little bit of Spanish speaking into some of our story times. What we found has been really wonderful is just like how many people in the community once they discover there are there are Spanish speaking speaking families at story time. No Spanish themselves and we'll start talking to them so it's been able to kind of organically allow for some communication within the community so we sometimes just because we're a space where people are coming to meet we can feel like with with unhoused people and people like that we can kind of feel out oh there's some leads in the community around this area so we can put some energy into it. That's great. You mentioned an intern that you were looking at in college. Would that be like a summer type of you know the distance. A Bennington student actually during the winter kind of in between session and she lived in Stowe so she was she was home for the so she was home for the winter so she was able to come down to the library from Stowe. Yeah unfortunately we don't have a really natural school to draw interns from so everything's a little bit too far away. So we have to get lucky occasionally and find someone who happens to be in the area. It's not that far away I can encourage them to come out to Waterbury. We really don't it's just that's that's a volunteer funded effort. We have a small book sale in our library and that's kind of what we do with our old books or books that have been donated to us. But if anybody ever wants old books to stop a little free library we're always very happy to provide them because we always have a lot of older books on hand that we can we can provide to something like that. I just want to say I think you do a great job and a great library. Thank you. It's, it is a great library. I think that Waterbury is lucky to have it but Waterbury supports it so well so. It's exciting to see some of the ideas for the future I know like, I mean I used to just check out books, but I had no idea that somebody other services, even like the discounts for museum. I've been telling all my friends or parents and you're missing out on like really cool stuff so I look forward that's why I was asking with the Internet I look forward to being able to really spread the word. Yeah, that's what we really found when we would, when we were doing interviews for the strategic plan and people would say oh why don't you do this why don't you do that and we already did all these things people just didn't know it. So now we're going to make more effort to make sure people know it's not just books, you know there's a lot of other things you can do. Some of the young kids who does a lot of road trips with the Liddy program. How is your, I know the telescope project and I know I think you also mentally snow shoes I don't know these days as well. Snow shoes, a telescope, board games, puzzles, cooking supplies, all kinds of things. Those are all watershed exploration kits yeah it's a we have a lot of library of things items. Yeah, again, people don't always know about so people don't think of the libraries that right. Yeah, they just gotta know. Yeah, so you said watershed exploration. That was a good organization donated those but it's like a backpack with like a fishnet and all kinds of things to do little science experiments with water. Well, great work. I'm going to run back for a little bit. All right. Next up we have the discussion and both related to a fire truck. I'm going to sit with the head. All the power in my department lies with people. So I guess, want to talk about the tank trucks and it was I guess a request about information on the age of the other trucks. So, going back a couple years back a number of years actually. We had two tank trucks and then a few years to engines that were purchased at the same time, back when we were two separate departments, we used to be a village department. We used to be a town part. And we found that purchasing to a time, you know that the town paid for theirs and the village paid for theirs and village paid for one third of the town. It was some savings. The village needed an engine town needed an engine then those needed a tank truck and the town needed a tank truck so we're paying the price now. We're getting those at the same time. I've been had been talking with Bill over the last number of years about. Is there value in keeping them the same, because you might see some savings, not a lot, but in the past select board members have said hey save any money. That's better than not. And then the discussion of why don't we separate them. So, starting with the last engines and it just happened to be that the motor blew on one, and the board approved that emergency purchase, because we had an option to get a demo truck. And at the same time, the vendor said hey I have another demo truck in the wings, kind of on on the list of going through the process and back then it was, you know year and a half to from the time you order to get the truck. And it was, anywhere, two to three years before you can order a truck and get it. It was such a bad rock. So, the two tank trucks were due to be replaced in 2021 in 2022. And then there's this discussion about getting involved at the same time. There's a little bit of savings when you're dealing with a fire truck manufacturer, because they don't have to change anything in the plant when they're running two trucks through everything is exactly the same. Yeah, I think it and bill and I talked and he asked if he could put it off and see how this pandemic is going to play out wasn't sure, you know, people were gonna say, I don't have any money and can't afford this. And that was fine. And we continued to talk and we were still looking at holding off for another couple years. And then I had the vendor a vendor call me, same one we've got the last five trucks from and said, I have one being, it's been wanting to be built as a demo truck. And if you are interested in that, we can have a discussion about how this is going to work or about that process. So he sent me the information I met with Tom. The price is phenomenal now it's a demo truck. But it's designed for Vermont, where he sells most of his apparatus so it's designed for a hill. What does demo truck. So, typically what he does is he usually has tries to have on hand an engine or a tank truck budget. So that when somebody wants to see one. That's really it. An example being city of Barry is looking at buying a new engine slash rescue truck. And they're looking at the exact same truck that we have just recently got a couple years ago. So we bought his demo trucks. So they came to our station and looked it over and identified ways that they could make it fit what they want. So, we bought his demo trucks, we download it for. Nice. So, so the tank trucks again we call me and said, look, I have one it's in the works. It's available sometime in the area of anywhere from April to June of next year. If we held off and went through the end of this year and went to town meeting next year to get approval for one time truck. We wouldn't see that tank truck probably closer to two years, because it's not in line to be built. The price is very good. It's, you know, a couple hundred thousand less than what we might pay for an engine, but just less to it. Predominantly, it's, we would use it for on water to a scene where there's no fire. It does have a pump on it so on our current ones this was just a little bit bigger. It does have a ladder on it. So, you know, it has more updated stuff than it in a 23 year old 24 year old truck. So, he said that it's, if we want it, we can sign the agreement. He is, he does know that if at town meeting, the taxpayers say no, he will sell this truck. That's not a problem for him to say, okay, you, the town said no, you don't want it. He still gets his demo truck. No arm loss. So, I would recommend, you know, it's my job to do that, that you jump on board and at least let the town taxpayers make the decision at town meeting. You need to sign the agreement. I can answer any questions for you I can answer questions about the other apparatus. I've offered up in the past. I would encourage all of you, not necessarily as an entire board because then it becomes public meeting to just meet me at a fire station, and we can go through them and I can explain and show you what each truck does, rather than just sitting here in a row. But that's kind of my question and hope being Roger had this conversation. You know, sometimes the nomenclature, you know, gets kind of confusing because, you know, we just purchased two engines. So how this different is an anchor. Okay, so that's correct that kind of answers. You are a little unclear as to what we have purchased. I understand. And that's why I would encourage you to write, give me a send me an email, give me a call. Couple of you at a time one at a time I really don't care, or my Mondays and Wednesday afternoons are taken up by my granddaughter, and I pick up the school. Other than that, I'm pretty open to meeting a evening doesn't matter if we have a call at three in the morning and you want to come down. I'm not going back to bed. I usually hear those. So, there's two here but it's only one year. It's one that we're talking about now. However, he does. He is going to be ordering another one. And so, you know, if you want to save some money come town meeting day. Maybe you put that out there. You're still only going to get one in 2024. And then one in 2025. So you're not, you're not bonding next year for two trucks, bonding for one. And that's the 370,000 dollar. Yes. Yes. What do you do with the one that you're busy. Tank trucks are pretty easy to sell. The Midwest and far West have a lot of rust fires, and they buy a lot of tank trucks because they are beat. But we might have a department in Vermont that says hey look, we don't have much. That's what happened with the last two engines, one had a blown motor. And the town of Albany, they're aside from these, the 23 year old trucks that they now have that they bought from us, and they bought one we gave them one. Their next newest one is 40 years old. I don't know. I don't know. You know, you're probably talking an area of 10 to 15,000 somewhere in there. They do appreciate the second week. Take it out on its first. Both fire vehicles when they're 225 years old, they're at the end of their life cycle, and the value, the residual value is fairly minimal. The only, the only departments, as Tom said, that are in the market for older trucks like that are small departments that don't have a lot of money. We were going to have to hang on to the one that had a blown motor. It wasn't worth it for us to fix it. The mechanic said it was going to be somewhere in the area of $26,000 for a motor and then to replace it. Albany actually has a garage right on their main strip, and the mechanic there had a motor that would go in it and he would give it to them and install it for them. We didn't have to sit on that truck for years and we have done that in the past over the years, we've sat on trucks until they started rusting so bad that we essentially got rid of them for almost. So, any other questions for the board. We got this looks like Dr. and he did with bill way back in 2022 which is giving 230 to 250,000 as a replacement cost I assume that's just inflation that we're looking at. Oh yes, yeah. Right. So that, when we did that, it was that was based on when we got the truck original. It's near impossible to try and guess, even the vendors wouldn't say yeah, you know if you buy a truck. Now, I can give you the price. If you wait six months I can't. And he is telling you, it's 1% a month increase is fairly large. You're holding off a month you're okay. You're holding off a couple of years. And then, who knows, how long are you going to wait. Again, their, their department said they have ordered trucks, and they're like two years past when they expected to get it. That's my hand. I'm very other note, you have successful holding house on Saturday. It was a good time. I think in about if all of them fall through under commitment they gave to me in about 10 to 12 years, we got a bunch of firefighters. They're still a great school. Yes, they're still very young. And, you know, next week, one of them is probably going to want to be Spider-Man. So, you know, we did not get any adults or young adults, we certainly had a conversation with a couple of young adults. We take what we call junior firefighters age 1617 1818 if they're still in high school. And only one kind of fit the mold yet she lives in stuff so they're going to probably get her, which is good stuff. Yeah. So maybe one that we just brought on last week so right now we're at 39 members, which is pretty good. What would you consider a full force. I want to a fire and have all the people that I don't have an answer to that, because you're not getting everybody at one call. You know, before the pandemic, we had the higher end of the 50s. But again, you know, you during a daytime, sometimes you're not getting that many people were very fortunate in Waterbury that we have people that can leave work. One is a little bit slower now, because her job from middle sex to Berlin. But she if if we're going somewhere between the mainstream station towards my career way, we can throw her gear on the truck and she can use it. But again, it's, you know, they times are a little bit tougher. And it depends on what the call is. If we had a call the minute I walked out of here and it was a house fire. We get a lot of people. It's just what we call a room and contents fire. It's not goes down pretty quick with just what we have our best mutual aid is still so we get them coming anyways. And they can help us pick up. I just would be remiss if I didn't comment that we're possibly buying a truck from Garth Brooks. I had a call from him one time when I was at work, my phone was hanging on my desk and it popped up. And I had that person totally convinced that I was, I knew and I was friendly with Garth Brooks. We had to, I don't explain it. It just tickled me when I saw it. Yeah. No, you know, I don't even ever see more than baseball. I only care one when it's either cold or raining or hot out. You know, we don't, we haven't gone out to bid the last few couple of trucks. Garth Brooks E1 or Dersourcey, depending on which one you want to use. He provides a great truck for a really good price. And on top of that, his service is beyond anybody in this area. There are other manufacturers that we have met with prior to just going and, you know, they have a, you know, a service person in Connecticut or Massachusetts they got to fit it in. I literally have called him at 10 o'clock at night expecting to get a voicemail. And he answers the phone. And if I asked him to send his one of his mechanics down that night, he would. And usually as if you can make it first thing in a while. So the service that we get from him is beyond anything else that anybody, any other vendor would get. I don't know what friends trucks just not in their line that they carry. So the France is a is a vendor. Pierce is a vendor. So, you know, yeah, so this is a freight liner it's a truck, but American no France is a company, right. And you're then it's a historic name. You're paying a lot of money for American the France. And once they started getting rid of Detroit diesel, they don't sound as cool as they used to. They're just a very expensive truck along with some others that don't do any more than what we asked from you. We're able to calculate what the anticipated increase would be. Yeah, if we finance it for 20 years to be a useful life. About 26 grand a year on the rates at the time. Every penny on our tech every $78,000 was a penny on our tax rate so third of a penny. So if you have a $300,000 home, every penny increases another 30 bucks. $10 a year for 20 years. The reason I didn't suggest that we move on both of them is I want to overcommit too far out. We don't something I just sort of put on the back is we don't have reserves to go towards us. And we certainly wouldn't in 2025. Okay. Any other discussion. Motion to issue a bond though. No, just sorry. Issue of purchase order issue. Ending the approval of the tax papers. Okay. That was just some baseline. Tom has the documents. Okay. Well said. To issue a purchase order for the. One freight freight liner. Tanger truck at $370,000. And now would be pending approval of the taxpayers. Okay. Okay. All right. Any further discussion. Hearing none. Opposed. Any objections. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. Coolness wore off a long time ago. It was cool during the summer when you wrote on the rear step during the winter. All right. Thank you. Thank you for. Voicing your interest in the position. If you wouldn't mind just giving us a little bit of background. Why are you interested in serving as the animal control officer. Absolutely. I mean, you all got a letter of interest or what have you. So as I mentioned in there in the water very in 2019. Here for a job with revitalizing water very. Work with Alyssa over there for a little while. I did leave that in the fall to kind of set out on my own, have a little bit more flexibility in my schedule, which is why something like this. You know, I'm a farmer's market manager for a few seasons. I am the president of roberty starting on July 1st. So I have some good community connections and like to think that I've established myself as trustworthy and heard working here in town. I love dogs. I have a dog. I love all the animals really. But my dogs are very specialized. Mine in particular. You know, we all think our dogs are the best. We're the best. We're the best. We're the best. We're the best. We're the best. We're the best. We're the best. Yeah. So I saw the position and I just kind of thought, you know, I think this is something that I, I could do and then I would enjoy doing. I love to walk my dog around town. And I see a lot of dogs around town with that. And I feel like I have a good handle on some of the. Situations and issues that kind of arise. In line with that. I could use my dog. But I'm just not that proud of that. And that's something that, you know, I would love to try and like increase awareness of that with this position. And, you know, ensure that this is a good spot, a good town for people and their dogs and their pets at large. And that, you know, everybody can. Go out enjoy your recreation. those lines. I also think all animals need a happy healthy home so we can be animal welfare calls I will take with you know the the most serious respect um to make sure that every every animal has a safe place a good family or care of work. And yeah that's why I did I saw the position and I thought this sounds like something that I can do and would enjoy doing so if anyone has any questions for me or wants to discuss anything okay and real quick if there's some of those animal welfare calls are pretty tough um deemed out of town on that but I'm happy to be the unofficial deputy for some of those calls on the round thank you okay yeah um so my question slash comment um kind of reflects on what Tom just said um here are a lot of very actually on my 21st birthday I was attacked by Pitfall who severed an arrow to my arm and the dog was improperly dealt with by at the time village police and then the owner lived in Duxbury so the the Duxbury animal patrol officer and they didn't have an officer so it kicked back to us um and you know nothing was ever done about it and then I had heard that that same animal had attacked somebody else um this isn't about that animal it is about animals like this at large um in the event as the animal control officer that you have an out of control animal with an out of control owner um how would you best respond to the situation like that yeah I mean out of control animal part of it uh part of the response would depend on what needs to happen does the dog need to be removed from the situation does it need to you know when do we need to try and catch the dog in which case I would have the appropriate tools muzzles we used to safely catch the dog and keep myself safe from the dog as far as you know follow-up goes um for when I am so sorry that that happened to you and that it was not dealt with properly I didn't have a similar situation happen in my worry where someone was bitten it was you know with no one in the position it never received any follow-up um you know if it is a problem dog like there are so many mitigation strategies it could be training it could be muzzles it could be ensuring that that dog is in a place where it can't get out and it can't go after other people you know maybe it's totally fine with its people that it's comfortable with and in a new situation it's not and there's a lot of different ways from trainings to physical like restraints or tools that can keep that dog safe and away from people so you know you can take a dog out on a walk and even if they have a history of reactivity you're finding or things like that if they're properly muzzled and restrained that that shouldn't be an issue as long as you know people are following all those and um does that answer your question? Sure yeah I guess it was more angle that you know owners of animals who have tendencies to attack people you know get off the leash it might not just be jumping over their fence the animal could be brought here from the property in the woods um so I think my question was more angle that mitigating the animals uh handler less than the animal yeah so we have an ordinance we did back in 2015 it's pretty good I think so state law is reflected in state law because the select boards amount a lot of authority to deal with fish stocks I think most take the approach that if there's a dog bite most select boards tend to there's a hearing there's a right to a hearing for the victim most select boards tend to put conditions you can better take the dog out only bleached and muzzled put a fence in your under running house things like that um but yeah yesterday beyond that you've got authority to at a maximum have the dog put down so you've got to if there's ever a hearing you have very grown discretion about what condition you would place ownership of the animal and if there is an animal that um is a word he did offender or these kind of things they're continuously we're seeing problems from you know it's something that I would talk to Tom in the select board about and see how we want to address that and ask believe that beyond you know face-to-face conversations with the owner or any other mitigation strategies that we've tried I don't sometimes there's just people in the community who will step up and say there's a it's a dog with a high history living in the village but I live out by the reservoir there's no one around me and I've got some land and some practice with this and usually you can find a solution well I don't answer like that so we'll make the decision about it with the dog we need to be put down to make that a certain euphox hopefully we'll come to that yeah it's pretty rare I think to come to that and even then there's oftentimes no kill shop there's that standing out for some assistance yeah most of the time what I'd say in town at least is people who just are not paying attention with their off-leash dogs and their off-leash dog runs up to you and then they just need to come get their dog and put him back on the leash the one unfortunate thing that's not in the ordinance and I don't believe you can do it you can't prohibit ownership right I think what you like takes the dog and you can't do that take the dog and so you can't own one again as long as you live an already right you can take that one but not the future yeah how would you like how would you look at situations where you have dogs that are in excess of barking or sex you know community members but for one there is also a section of the ordinance that just defines what excessive barking is I mean there's different solutions you know if it's possible for the dog to be brought in and just you know outside for a few periods of time and there's situations like what is it barking at is there something that's aggravating if that can be removed different ways like that I you know if it is truly like this person just leaves their dog out and it's barking non-stop then I think that's when you know comes back to the select board for further action and a discussion about what to do but hopefully most of the time people will be immediately say hey yeah this dog barking is a real issue can you limit it take the dog inside take away the squirrels from the backyard you're like in your whatever you own your experience in conflict matters just that's what most of these issues are in conflict management yeah I've worked in a lot of customer service or customer service like sessions with a lot of different people and there's a lot of conflict in that finish I first thank you I think we can understate how important this is and we can talk about it's not so necessary in a small town but I think it's really important and I think it takes a really like unique human to do this job because it can go into like either extreme and so I really am I'm so glad we're here um and I think we talk about some realistic situations that obviously happen but are more the exception to the role what I continue to notice and you may see my Facebook so all over I'm trying to save this dog I'm gonna get by is um dogs like it loose and it's generally just like a door blue open or the gate broke and it's not anything but I just feel like it's it's one of the most common animal control issues we have and to be frank I don't I don't actually know the solution is it just that citizens then have a call versus like technically posting on every social media or like what yeah and I don't expect you to highlight the answer because I don't think there is one but like ideas or you know things that you might have in mind yeah I mean this is something that you see it on for first form all the time I just saw one like it does happen a lot um you know part of this is a person to call and pick up the dog Tom and I talked about this uh when we met Ian um a lot of times people individuals will pick up that dog and then like post on for a first form say hey I have a dog anybody know who this is something like that so it's you know some it's for uniting people that the dog is already in a spot there um we would need to try and figure out what would happen with you know I'm having to pick up a dog I have a dog not like other dogs and I live in a one bedroom apartment in town my neighbors don't want me taking the dog and I will be my only dog warning uh so that would be something that we need to figure out a solution to like where can a dog be held safely so that you know I can go respond quickly pick up a stray dog get it to somewhere safe you know is there um a place that's forwarding or sheltering in town or people who might like sign up exactly yeah I can take a dog in my backyard until they find the owner yeah yeah I think in the past you've used some of the medicine something like that before yeah yeah yeah and I think that's just something that you know I'll establish those connections with whoever's appropriate and then make sure that they have a good place for you know the weather conditions the dog would you also have access to the registrations so this is something that we talk about yeah they live on a server that doesn't have a cloud right so if they had a name but not a number or something could they have to have an attack well but I'm saying yeah if they have like a tag that said you know apple seed google it and not google it but because you find it in the registry and call the person or something like you know it's called care yeah I can't search the database by game okay um and there's only 350 dogs in town right now they're licensed just under 350 there's probably sure there's more dogs and they have to have their tag on in order for me to help right a lot of owners are using microchips so and then like people to recognize them if they're yeah it's like that sorry them to really go up here of course I just I'm really sad you here there are some wearing things up like like loose dogs that were not you know if you're having him also thinking question any other discussion from the board just a side note so this position exists in state law as your appointment just like the planning time director come all right so do I have a motion I have a motion I make a motion to approve aerial long vl as the new animal control officer for the kind of work second thank you all right it's been moving second anything for the discussion just here's one notation word I don't think I saw that I don't think we talked about it my week is busy I didn't know if you had talked about an event we talked about conversation there's a lot of different models every kind of different but essentially it's it's mostly a responsive position there could be some proactive work about some of the yeah so it's an it's an hourly it's an hourly rate but then if there's a response there's a guarantee then well to just the asshole can not go to the description hearing none all over say hi and your folks and we have state congratulations thank you thank you from someone who's lost their dog bolted well here yeah I was out of interest but you know I'm lacking for the situation you did because there has been another incident of a ducks very dog or more accurately a dog that was picked up in water very brought to ducks very so it's not really clear where the dog belongs because no one ever took claim to it but someone was bad and it became this really intertangled mess who's who is responsible for the dog thank you yeah yeah so in that situation that I just work but yeah but I have a person now listen I mean so you can't be any sorry that those are anomalies they're not it's nothing more but it kind of happens it should be a very absolutely next we have the appointment of deputy health officer effective July 1st 2023 so would you like to address this sure the select board chair my law is the health officer the deputy health officer has varied at times but more often it's been a municipal manager so there is this help off there was a deputy health officer if you turn 30 I'm happy to do it beginning July 1 I might be having to do it in five years but it's actually really since in the last going back to November when I started there's been really one issue we're moving to an apartment comes and goes and starts you never quite know what the issue is you know generally speaking there's some urgency to them but they're not always Friday night at seven o'clock and you know my back to frozen I was not responsible into their lesser so I think we can work it out together there's actually some training through through CET together okay but to the state but I'd like to help in any capacity having a lot of experience yeah really questions so it is a motion to appoint Tom as deputy health officer effective July 1 2023 for a term of three you believe that second yeah I hear a motion of a second any further discussion hearing none all members of the eye all right there you go any oppose any abstentions all right congratulations Tom those are cool for me I just guaranteed for years of the one night that was a question I liked next we have a requesting approval to enter a $250,000 line of credit with Northfield Savior's Bank yes so we are changing banks soon we've been pretty unhappy with the current bankable Savior they aren't necessarily done our challenges we don't have many ways to choose from because we do deposits mostly every day so we really need a bank account we're not going to try to appeal you're we selected Northfield now additional clause to the town we can just better customer service but as part of the part of the turnover we've got to have old account open well that's clear and I just want to make sure that we don't have any issues whatsoever so I'm requesting a lot of credit that we might not even use at all so be no interest unless we use it just to have that safety net so if there's any issue and part of it is we know we need to do but sometimes the other parties and a great example is the you know the state pays us a lot of money during the course of the year and it goes into the current account it should be a really simple matter to go to the treasurer's office and say here's our new account number and routing number but just in case it's not I want to make sure we've got the liquidity so cheap insurance potentially free insurance and if at their annual meeting that is verbally so it wasn't in the town and we'll meet it should be what is the interest rate I don't have that yet but no short-term interest rates and we're talking we're really short-term so month or two is percent somewhere in that range and the further questions just as a vote of confidence in more field I know uh I'm a treasurer in a small nonprofit and they formally banked in community national bank which is a great bank don't get it wrong but as I became treasurer I didn't want to do a lot of the banking in um in my affiliate you know which is originally yellow this branch everyone confuses they say all this that's community bank yeah they're two separate entities but I have been amazed at the level of service and there's plus you know we're a small nonprofit they really have bent over backwards to help us and I think the same thing would go for the municipality I think it's a it's a good choice it's a local option you know as we all know there are very few local options and I don't think we want to go out of town to do a lot of our banking it's just very cumbersome so I would be you know very supportive of this and I think the idea that Tom has to do a line of credit I don't think it's going to be used but I mean that just makes sense yeah if we only have it for a short time um we've no interest right that's we didn't use it to be no interest right even if we were right for a short time you know might be $50,000 gotcha okay uh yeah Alyssa I can move to authorize the municipal manager the authority program and up to $250,000 line of credit with more field saving bank um for use if needed during the transition I second that all right we have no motion that has been selected any further discussion all right all of their say aye aye aye in your post any extensions you are approved for $2,000 in the employee table this has been introduced to the board in draft form and the the changes you know the changes from the last meeting came and suggested short and that has changed. And Danny gave me some language changes generally related to gender. And those have been incorporated. I had a phone call with Roger today and he asked if I'd incorporated about an employee having the right to demand a review. And that wasn't a bite note. So I didn't do a bad no objection. As I recall from the last meeting, the language of that and employees could demand it. But it was a question more regularly than a year. It was more exactly what will be practiced. It would support it. It does say employees have the right to request from first is why I'm not into nothing in the year. I don't know if you wanted to strengthen that. And as I said, in the last meeting, the old policy several decades old, so people want to take more time. I'm not going to jump to a couple more weeks, given where we started. Nice to finally have a very formalized employee. So I'm going to start quotation marks. I only want more of the town, but only end quote. You've got the open book. We don't have to approve that change, but I think you can make that edit whenever you need to. I wish. Anyway. Do I have a motion? Approve the updated handbook as is from the town of Waterbury. It's not full. Seconds. The motion was moved and seconded. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? The employee handbook has been approved. Roger. Is there a chance I could get a copy of that? I'm going to email her. I can give me one. No, I can't. Well, every employee, I assume you get a copy. What's his name? I assume that. I assume we'll have another website where we get the table of contents, quotation marks. Will employees be required to sign a paper just that they received it? Yeah, OK, that's that's a good policy. Apologize for being thirty three minutes ahead of schedule. I actually just kind of came in late, but I actually have a parking lot item related to the very top of the handbook and the inclusion. OK, so we could still stay on that item. I have I have some dates for training with Mary Gannon. Oh, there's there's an employee piece with I can just schedule and it's a slide board members lunch or ten. And then we had talked about a couple of different things, but two things emerged and we can do either one is just select board. And there was also the conversation about the select boards that invite other volunteer board members. So we've we've envisioned two evening meetings. She'd like to keep the groups to 30 or less, which I don't think would be an issue for the volunteer boards. And I can and I've got dates I can throw out. And maybe it's best to start furthest out. I'm going to head in. And Karen, could you put the calendar pressure just the town calendar so we can see what else might be on the screen or just on my computer? Either under your spine, I think. So she's thinking two evening sessions, they don't need to necessarily be Monday or Tuesday. But she's available and I'll work backwards from the furthest out July 10th through 12th. You know, I tend to this room has a plan. Commission meeting 11 Consolidation Commission, July 12th and for utility district Monday, Tuesdays and Wednesdays are going to be tough. So to get so not that those things can be rescheduled. We have Thursday, June 29th. That was open back then. Is there another one that would be paired with us? Or so we have one that we have. I'll keep going. We have Wednesday, June 28th. We have Tuesday, June 27th. We have Wednesday, June 14th. Do you think that? That's one. We have Tuesday, June 13th. Conservation. We have Monday, June 12th. We have Wednesday, June 7th. Oh, no. And we have the fifth, but that's our meeting. So it sounds like from the town's schedule perspective, the 27th, 28th, 29th, to three days. June, June, June. I'm sorry, then, when were the dates? Oh, no. 627, 628, 629. Those are all built. We'll win a stick. Yeah. And then I would likely schedule the pulley training those same days. Is there some travel for that or anything? Mm-hmm. Tuesday, Wednesday. 27, 28. 27, 28. Yeah. I don't have, I came here a year ago. So it's open. Oh, is it 28, 29? No, I can't do that. We'll say, because no one else has a preference on it. Yeah, I like 28. 28 is for me. That's true, it's very nice. You like the Wednesday, Wednesday nomination? Yeah, it's the Wednesday, Wednesday is great. And Tuesday, Wednesday. That's the week after AQID, right? Yes. Wednesday, Thursday. If it's not a problem, it sounds like Wednesday, Thursday are a little bit better for a few people. If that's okay with everybody. Mine's like just hasn't come. Yeah. I mean, Chris, I wasn't thinking that you were going to talk about this tonight, but it's okay that you are. I was at the initial introduction of this type of thing. In fact, it was considered the ultimate problem. That problem about this. It was suggested that we bottom closed doors because it was suggested that there was fear that the public might lash out at certain people because of the things that might be said behind closed doors. The safety of board members and people that are attending. But as an attendee on point during one of the classes, I actually had scope in favor of like wishing it hadn't been open to the public. And I think Danny and Mike both know that one of my biggest takeaways from that last classes, the real problem, was the fact that as board members, I think we got to know each other on a personal level, which to me was huge. I was feeling each other with that. If I were still on board, I had no fear of being open to the public. So we're from a transparency standpoint. And that's kind of in a sense, it's the takeaway that I took from those classes is the result of me requesting this open house. That's part of my self, was a positive part of that interaction. I too, and as well as Danny, we were part of the same. I thought the one good thing by having it a little more in-house, I think we were able to be kind of free with among each other as to what we wound up saying. It was something, but I do see the other side as I always like transparency, but they were the two sides is our people not gonna be as open in a transparent event as they might be. It's kind of like, if you sit with a therapist, you're gonna open up a lot that you probably wouldn't do if you were sitting in it, you're right here. So it's just, they're pros and cons. I think that, there are a couple of different ideas that they play. So the facilitation with Mary is geared toward helping community leaders see through a lens of equity and social justice while also confronting systemic and personal biases that exist. So it is not a training for the general public. They wouldn't be involved in the training because they're not community leaders. So that would mean they were simply audience members. That's really not conducive for this type of in-depth facilitation to have an audience. And to be fair, someone sitting in the audience might wanna have something to say and can't. And that's not creating a great atmosphere. I think if we want to show the public what we learn and what we devise from these, I think we did this last year, but it was brief, I wrote like a summary of what we did was a very high level. It wasn't in depth. We can do that as a select board. We can do that as a staff. We can do that as personal community, private citizens. And we can talk more in depth and or perhaps provide a public period at another meeting where folks can ask questions. This is a meeting today, where it's post-personal things that you said, but they can say what kinds of things might you change as a result of this or what kind of things have you learned as a leader? And then we can talk to those folks about that experience. But I really don't believe that. And I think Mary would say the same thing, but I certainly can't speak to her. I think she talked about this a little bit is that when it's specifically to train people in a certain position, that's what it's geared for. And the other thing, like thinking about the open house, I'm curious as we have that conversation, like what responsibility and or place does a select board have for that kind of thing? And where can we find opportunities to partner with community organizations who are meant for building communities, strengthening neighborhood relationships, providing gathering spaces, et cetera. So rather than necessarily putting the impetus on us, how can we talk to those organizations to do what they do best? And then what works with a select board? Is it meet your select board measures? Is it just a formal and or informal or multiple across the years? So those are the kinds of things on my mind that we'll talk a little bit more deeply about when it's on an agenda. But when we think about these things, they don't all have to serve the same purpose and really think about what is the purpose of serving how we best do it. Yeah, that was a bit verbose, but that's what I have to say. Tom, do you have to know what the trainer has a suggestion as to whether this is should be open to you or not? Generally, she would say it shouldn't be open for, I think, the reasons Danny stated. And plus, if you're extending this beyond the select board, but it's not mandatory for the volunteer board members, she wanted a people who, if I think people are reluctant about attending, if it's open to the public, I think they're like, they're less likely to attend. So if we're trying to educate, bring about some change, I don't think that's the best way to do it in this case. Perfect, and I also think if we're opening it up to, say, either board members or just board chairs, or, and to me, I think it's really critical that, for instance, department heads would be considered to be part of it. I thought at first meeting that would have been, you know, like public works director and stuff like that. Well, they're gonna do a whole staff tour. So they will, all of them including, not just the department heads, but the whole staff. Right, but that could, including in the marriage portion of it. That's up to you, and I have the injection to that. I assumed I would be there. And I would think that we would want as many committee members as we can get, right? I think that's 30, could have almost every person, sort of. Yeah, it's more than I'm saying to do that. Yeah, I was gonna say. Yes, I'm sorry. No, you're fine, not to counter, but I guess like in the spirit of intentionality and not remaining a hierarchy, but I was wondering like, clearly the library is already pursuing some of this training. So I don't want to superimpose on that if Rachel or others on their board, but I do think that like we have an elected board of library commissioners, we've elected E5 commissioners who have us elected and then we have a whole suite of boards and committees be a point. And I'm not trying to create an artificial division, but I guess I would want to think about at the next meeting what we think a realistic amount of folks are and just acknowledge that some of those boards and committees have pretty varying levels of time served and things like that, which not that I don't think everyone would benefit from it, but around kind of designing for an audience. I do think there's different levels of interaction in public and things between some of those boards with the training should be more targeted in a certain way. Having not done it, I don't know the background. Again, you know, my first thought would be, yes, invite everyone, just. And you said there's a point that the managing returns if you have so many people talented functionally. Well, she has a cap of 30, so. Yeah, but so I guess what I'm hearing is that we would have five of us plus one. We get to participate or not, but I expect to be welcome. My question would be, I guess now we have a limit of 30. Why wouldn't it be mandatory for appointed boards if we are doing it? Why wouldn't attendance be made? Like, if you serve on this board, you need to be trained in inclusivity, at least for the people running the boards. Well, yeah, I think that that may be the difference is that the chairs might make more sense than somebody who's like an archived member. Right, right. That was my question is if you were in a leadership position on one of these appointed bodies, I would assume that attendance would be strongly suggested. And I just developed this is the second time that town would have done it. I wasn't serving on the slack order when they did it the first time. So I just personally don't entirely know what would require folks to go to, not understand it conceptually and support it, but I guess that's why I'm again, support folks getting the training, but just want to make sure it's appropriate and a good use of their time and recognize that schedule challenges happen or maybe there's one that can be better suited to the work they're doing. You know, I'm gonna be about in particular the bodies I mentioned all recommend buckets so that there's like a specific equity framework around buckets that doesn't exist in different ways. There's like one really specific example. And she'll have a deadline for sign up, right? For, so that she would know how many and how to and maybe who to the tailor. I think she can tailor it to, you know, the career versus if there's. If we can do more. Yeah. So to come back. Yeah. I also think to remember too is like, we're not anywhere near a finish line of this type of work. So if the first one ever was just the slack order and that was an exciting accomplishment and now it's a lot more inclusive and it's not gonna be perfect and you may not, you know, we just dictated the dates. So we're hard pressed to them to say like, you have to be there because we just chose dates that are convenient for us in that so I think the invitation and even a strong encouragement of leadership. But as Alyssa mentioned, maybe looking at a full list of boards and all those numbers to see how possible it is. All right. So it was the first, sorry. Did you find yourself on Wednesday, the 28th and Thursday, the 29th? That's my area. Yeah. So the first step will confirm for those dates. Do you, does the board want to move forward with inviting committee chairs or do you want to put this on the agenda for our next meeting on the 5th? Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say, I don't see any Marvin putting that out now. Suggestion, strong, strong, strong word of suggestion for the committee chairs to attend with us if they can. That's how we would do that. And then maybe we revisit based on numbers and see about inviting any other members who are interested and available. Okay. And then there was some conversation about other talent employees. Yeah, Marvin, that's... So, I've been wanting to mention you take it. So same question. My question was, are they already covered in the employee? Yeah. Or yes, knowing that we just approved this delightful 30-page document that dictates our time and cases with employees. Personally, I feel like I defer to Tom as being the point of contact for staff and would encourage him to have staff for training, see training, how they see fit. We support and supervise Tom so I think it makes sense for him to do a training with us directly. But that would be my gut would be that the employees, as long as it happens, Tom figures out the way that it works the best. Yeah, I wonder if the department that's considered a punishment to have to do this twice. Well, I just don't, yeah, well, I don't understand. It wasn't just for us to interact with them. Like, why would we have them do it two separate times? Yeah, we're just asking. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to make sure that we're just... I do think, you know, as Chris was saying, there's possibility that you can get to know each other more. I understand it's concerned and so forth. But there may be other good opportunities to do that as well. Staff board or training? Woo! Let's go in the woods. Great. For some reason, I thought you were having a staff one with staff and then this was separate. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what I'm doing as well. That's what we're talking about. Okay, that's great. Sorry. So what I'm hearing is the selection board are two reps of staff and committee chairs. And initially, and then we'll see how it goes from there. And we need to confirm the dates. Okay, bye. Thank you. Bye. Be safe. I'm just saying, it would be an invitation. Yeah, an invitation. I should never have done that. I strongly encourage us to remember to invite Befod. Of course. I'll invite you to be committee chair. Okay. Are you doing it on reach then? Yep. Are we moving to this or are we just... Do we need a motion or are you just working on this? Okay, so let's just start. All right. Thank you. All right. So I'm going to give you some of that time. Shall we move on to our next meeting agenda? I have some coffee, but I have some water. I apologize. Tom, help me remember. How was your memory? I'm supposed to be doing something. Oh, yeah. Actually, the library is down in person now. Susan Mazza resigned. So they're going to need to appoint someone to replace her. So I plan to have that on the next agenda. And the planning room. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I'm going to present to a presentation. Okay. The goal was hopefully two-fold. And that's something that planning commission can kind of just talk generally about the role and what they're working on. And then also more specifically on the SE group contract around outreach and the bylaw and kind of like the status of that project specifically. And then also just to maybe we also have discussion about a potential planning zone and director Hire, which the planning commission has already made a recommendation that if there was any follow-up, that could also be done. And you mentioned the SE group. So June 1st, the SE group is going to present the art study to the steering committee. Sorry, SE group will not be presenting that. It's essentially their meeting to put the final touches on the draft report they'll have. And then SE group will need a little bit of time to incorporate that into a final. And then how much input they have. That could be an agenda item for the 19th. What's the date of the presentation? It's not a presentation. It's on the study committee's meeting to look at the direct document Thursday June 1st at 6 30. And you would want to put that on the agenda in the 19th? I don't think it's not because the SE group is going to need some time to incorporate many comments. The 19th might be aggressive, but I think this quarter has a placeholder. Danny and I haven't done it, but we're going to look at the ordinances. But we also didn't say for the 15th. I know that's why we did it. Oh, there. Put anything off the parking lot for the next meeting. How about an update on the charter. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Watching doesn't need to go on a parking lot or an agenda is part of the, I mentioned it to listen when I walked in the door, part of the debt negotiations going on in Washington, they're talking about revoking any and unspent parable funds. So. That goes any farther. So we can, we can spend that tonight. I am not joking. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. The valid use of our funds is the provision of government services. And so. The select board tonight could agree to. Reimbursed the town using our quick funds for municipal payroll. But of course, 2023 in that room and the. The only thing that would create is we have a lot of what we have a million dollars and I spent our funds. Most over a million, most of which is allocated. Right. So they're analyzed the potential to allow. But the, the unallocated portion. We could allocate in this fall. See, I wasn't expecting. No, not lost. But the challenge is, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They're taking that money that we were hoping to build a bridge with. Right. That's a challenge. I would have that cane and I can get a housing task force at the next week. So I've noticed this Thursday, the 18th. I will say I've already drafted an agenda, but in light of tonight's discussion, we can modify that to just perhaps include some discussion around homelessness. But I don't know, I don't know how to put this out because it's a very long one. But I would just acknowledge that, like, very much earlier in Berlin had a joint press conference about this. So other municipalities in our region are thinking about this. So I think there's. Yeah, candle. Their press conference was that how they don't feel like there's a lot of solutions. But just to say, we're certainly not the only municipality wrestling with this right now. And I'm back to you. I was thinking, do you know about the affordable housing coalition, the changes there? Yes, I know that, sir. Which is just to say, that's a state-run coalition that is exploring what their future looks like. Anyone else to participate? It's a challenge, which is where they go. Yeah. Thank you. I don't know if we fully understand the implications of allocating all of the money at this moment. I'm not asking to do it right now. No, I was also just keeping our radar as something we should pay attention to. I appreciate that game, but I was going to suggest that if the risk becomes more real, that they are going to take away all our unspendable funds. So could we potentially have a special meeting? So I will, I will prepare for the fifth. A resolution in some detail with dollar amounts. We could spend all of our funds, you know, because we are allowed to spend them on a provision of government services, spend all of our funds. So those funds would essentially move from one pocket to the other, but for our reporting purposes, they're spent and then they continue to use them for the projects. Yeah, that's what I'm asking. I will have that. Anything else for the agenda for next week? No. Okay. The end of our regular session. So we're going to move from a provision to change into a different section. I have a lot of questions. Trying to think of the motion of hand, but it's a premature public knowledge. So I move that. Is it legal? There's a. Oh, there's a legal issue and then pull it. Okay. So we'll move that premature knowledge of a pending legal issue would clearly place the town of Watergate as a central disadvantage. Okay. We have a second. Any further discussion hearing none. I'll never say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any extensions? Okay. Second. All right. Motion has been moved and seconded. I'll never say aye. Any opposed? Any opposed? Any opposed? Okay. Okay. Just a second.