 Okay. Well, before then that and everything, thanks, thanks a lot for being here. And, well, we have a nice presentation from Mexico City. And Mexico the country, we are fedora Mexico, a local community from Mexico. And this is our presentation growing together and how we rebuild this community. I'm Alex Callejas, and let me present my team. Alex Acosta, Hasim Anaya, and Ivan Chabero. So let's start with this. Okay. In Mexico we have a lot of communities, a lot of developers communities but our community is very, very special. We have a lot of technical people, very, very, very important in Mexico. And in the first years, this doesn't happen. So let's share with you how we can do this thing. Okay. This is an old graphic but represents all the active members by country in Fedora. So Mexico have 45 active Fedora contributors. But in our community, in this moment we have 1068 members on Meetup and 516 members on the Telegram group is very, very huge. So in the main groups we have Mexican contributors like ambassadors, advocates, packages. And, okay, this time from story time we have to share with you our journey and our lessons. All right. Well, as you have my already guest, I am the older guy in the group, probably in the conference, but well, at least in the group I'm the oldest. And I'm also the ambassador, I'm not? Thank you. And also my membership or my FAS account is pretty old. I joined Fedora in 2008. And well, at that time it was a very small group. We have like eight registered ambassadors but only three of us were actively contributing to the project. From those three or from those eight, I'm the only one who remains from that time. They were interesting times then because all of the events were managed and driven by the Fedora Latin community, which was bright and extended at that time. But that also represented some challenges like difficulties in the logistics for budget and for shipping. Concentrating the swag in Latin America was a challenge to chip to Mexico. I personally live 250 miles south of the North American border. And I was getting a hard time, having a hard time getting the swag from Latin America, right? This is something that's not necessarily an issue right now, but in that time, the Mexico Red Hat Office was just a commercial and support office. And there was nearly zero involvement with the community. And we also have mostly talks at university and colleges. That photo is from Food Contempé and you might recognize some of them, some of the people who participated at that time. Tática, Núcho, Neville, it's in the photo. Good times. In 2014, one of our founder members went on bus and arrived to Managua, Nicaragua, to the Food Contempé, and that's where our story started. But how do we do it? How do we do it to get this community well? Okay, for the next part, one of the main points to grow the community in Mexico was the communication across the country, across other people. And one of the main points is the telegram group. It's an official federal channel. We have more than 500, 516 today, registering the channel. One of the points that we grow with the channel is the moderation. We have a console. Everyone is checking out today. The community, providing hub, providing support, providing advice. Everyone can join and participate with the community. And from this point, we manage all the meetups. We have a monthly meetup, one of the most active in Latin America. All the communication is brought into the channel. Okay, the next step that we have is to create a meetup group, Fedora Mexico. In this time of the... In the history, we have support from Red Hat. They let our meetings and the office. So we can do very, very large meetings. And we find the best speakers and topics of general interest, different people, all to share all of his knowledge. Like at SELPRI, we participate in community events, generate our own events, like a release party on Fedora Women's Day and other community events like Open Source Contributor Assume Costs and Latin American Free Software Installation Festival, known as FLEASOL. In these community events, we have a huge participation of the community. We have very, very nice events in the Red Hat Mexico office. The participation in community events, we go to Guadalajara to talk about how the people can contribute to the Fedora Project. We do a workshop where we learn to the people how to contribute to the project, since translation, report books and packaging. There are a lot of people there. It was a nice, nice, nice event. In the Fedora Women's Day from 2019, we have a huge participation from the university, the biggest university in Mexico. And we have participation internationally because TATICA participated with us. And this girl, Susanna, she is in Germany. So it was a very nice event too. So we have participated in 12 out of 20 editions of the Southern California Linux Expo, which is one of the, it is the largest community run open source and free software conference in North America. It's not completely Fedora Mexico credit for this, but we have participated and it is important because as you know, there is a huge Spanish speaking population in that area actually. It is the second one next to Mexico City. It is the second speaking, largest Spanish speaking population in the whole world. So this last edition, we earned the most memorable boot. Fedora earned it. Yeah. Because, and it is awarded to the, voted by the attendees for the most, I don't want to use the wrong term, but it was like a more memorable experience for them. So this is something that I would like to. It's because we're memorable. This is something that I would like to brag about. And this is a photo that was in which Ivan and myself were interviewed for one of the digital news site. Hasim, Ivan, myself, Ruben, if you recall him, he's living in the Netherlands, but he was an active ambassador. We have all participated in this conference as well. Okay. But not always. We have a happy place. Of course, we have a lot of issues because, you know, the people have different ideas. And the first issue that we found was the modulation. And we talk about all these people like the Chrisman. We are our friends. Yeah, we've had some trolling cases in the Telegram channel. There's some, I don't know why people that use Arch Linux or Arch Linux like to, I don't know, give us a hard time. But we try to, well, I try to be like a count of three, don't get mad, and ask the other guys to calm the waters, you know. Because I'm a little explosive and I'm supposed to be a moderator. So I always say, okay, hey guys, there's someone here saying that blah, blah, blah, blah, stuff. And we try to focus on the technical. We try to focus on the social. We try to focus on being friends. And I think that the most important part is that we try to help each other. If you enter this Telegram channel, and you're a newbie, and you're asking the most basic question, you're not going to get the RTFM answer. Either a seasoned expert is going to answer you, or also a newbie is going to answer you. And there's going to start a conversation. There's times, I'm really happy about that because there's times that a new guy helps a new guy and they end up helping each other. And I just read it. You know, I didn't need to read it at that time. You just say, well, this is cool. They're wrong. But they are finding the truth together. And then someone comes in and helps them or I help. But we try to be very open for the new guys. And because most of the time they come really, really excited. And I don't know if you have been on more technically hardcore oriented communities in which you feel like you shouldn't ask stuff because they're going to think you're dumb or stuff like that. But we try to create the environment for the newbies to ask everything. And we are there to help also. Oh, the code of conduct. I don't even haven't read it. But it's easy. Just don't be an a-hole, right? It's just like that. And, well, at one point, at some point, I don't know how or why, I was talking to my friend Renich and he's a musician. And he's also a musician. And we started saying, hey, we should, he lives in some area in Jalisco State. I don't remember the place. And we were talking about doing music in Linux. And we all know it's not like the most pleasant experiences, right? It's still an area of opportunity. But he was using a software, it's not free software, but it runs on Linux, Mac, and Windows called Bitwig. I think it comes from some guys that got out of Ableton or something like that. And he said, hey, let's do a song. And I don't remember if I or he agreed to do the free software song in Spanish. So he is a guitar player and a keyboard player. So he wrote the melodies and the guitars and the drum beats. And he sent me everything. And I recorded some vocals. And I sent them to him. And then he sent them back and forth. It's not, I like to say that it's not the ideal. But it's a very nice community experience to make music remotely only using Linux. That's the main point. And that's why we chose the free software song. Because we were trying to prove that you can do music in Linux. And I shouldn't say it, but it came out pretty well. Would you guys like to listen to it? Yeah? Yeah? This effort has a lot of... All the community joined to perform this video. Some guys do some things. And this girl, Cassiopeia, she does the musical video for this song in Blender. Yeah, she's the leader of the Blender community in Mexico. And we sent her the song. And she did, I don't know what, but it came out pretty well. An animation around the sound and the frequencies of the song. And the thing, just before you press play, I want to be very, very emphatic about this. We were asking, in which community should we share this stuff? And like, I don't know, at Unison we all agreed, we should share this in the Fedora Telegram channel. Because that's the place where we hang out. And we are sure that that's the place in which this is going to be welcomed. So that was like the premiere or something like that. And we did it on the Fedora Mexico Telegram channel. So here at DJ, if you guys want to sing, you said... Now, John! Everything is in Spanish, so feel free to translate in your heads. Let's have those pounds again. I was going to sing it, but we couldn't afford the band to travel here and perform. Well, where we are and where we are going. In this moment we have improved packaging skills in our community. We have some people who want to get as packages. So we are performing a packaging workshop, but we found that the documentation needs... Yeah, some members of... We are always trying to... We're always asking our members to try to package or to enter the experience of being a packager on the Fedora ecosystem. But we found some... I like to call them areas of opportunity, not problems. But the documentation for newbies in this area is a little confused. And it tends to change over time in English. And it might be our fault. We don't make it perturbed with Spanish. So sometimes your browser shows you... My browser shows me the web page in Spanish and the web page in English is different. It's a newer web page. So it might be that we have to coordinate and help with these translations. But in general it's a little hard for new packagers to learn the whole process, like creating a fast account and then going and downloading the tools and learning the workflow. Because it's a weird workflow. It's nice. I like it. I am a packager. But if you're used to just sending the patch via email you're going to find it's kind of bureaucratic. Which is not. But I'm saying a perspective of one of the guys that is trying to become a packager. Actually helping for LibreOffice. Let me just tell this. As part of the communities we're also helping... This is not only Fedora Mexico but members of Fedora Mexico are helping on the development of LibreOffice. Mostly for Mexican stuff but there's now some expertise around writing the code for that huge project. And we're also creating packages around the stuff we're creating because it takes time for patches to get accepted. So we create our own RPMs and we're finding stuff that we can contribute to Fedora. And that's when one of my friends had a little problem with onboarding to be a packager. She was saying, hey man, just a five line patch. Why do I have to do all this? Oh, you know why? I told them. You know why? Because you're going to contribute more. And if you know the workflow it's going to be easy, like water for you. Well, at least for me it's easy. I confess that I have to open the manual but still it's easy. So then we have implemented an adoption of package program. You know, commanding the package between members of the community, looking for impact package as mentioned by Ivan. And other challenges we have is supporting the growth of Fedora LATAM. For us it's very, very important collaboration across borders because Fedora LATAM was our inspiration to create the Fedora Mexico Group. So now we want to get back the favor and help now that we, our brothers need us. So we are part of this great family of Latin American countries and we need support and to consolidation of Fedora LATAM. We technical support in Fedora Spanish channels and maybe sharing knowledge in remote and face-to-face talks. And that's it. That's it. That's we do it and that's we want to do it. So, I don't know some questions or comments? No questions. In Spanish or English? In Spanish I'm curious. So given the power, I don't know if you've played with chat GPT, it's actually quite good in translating from one language to another and I'm wondering if more and more companies should use it, leverage it for translating documentation to Spanish, Chinese, et cetera. It's actually quite good. I was surprised how good it is in Spanish and Italian and Irish. It does a really good job. Great. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah, we have a small discussion one day in the Telegram Group because someone asked to chat GPT how we can install some package tool on Arch Linux and the process is correct but that package doesn't exist. We don't have a lot of confidence with chat GPT. Yeah. We can take the opportunity. We know but we don't trust it needs validation but it is a good idea. 80-20, right? Yeah, because most companies they're complainers and the world revolves around English and there's this assumption that you have to speak English to work in IT and to use products, which is really bad. Most of the planet does not speak English and we should have documentation in all languages. Yeah, in our talks we always talk with the young people don't worry about English. You know English. There's a system in English. All your practice if you have a Linux machine. So... There's something in Mexico for example we just don't speak Spanish. We speak a lot of languages a lot of native languages and everything in computers is either in English or in Spanish and there's a barrier for native communities to use technology because it's not being shown in their language or at least their mother tongue they have to like in head translate or stuff like that. The guys at Mozilla they are doing translations of the browser to Nahuatl and that's pretty cool and when you said that, I just remember for a while I have been trying to ask those guys to join the community and start at least checking out how hard is to translate the operating system and documentation to native languages. Another question another comment? Oh, we have a... If you want this you need to ask You just came for that. Yeah, you need to sing the free software song. Yeah, okay. You should have a... I'll ask one. So on the earlier slide you talked around some of your future steps and trying to build a stronger LATAM community across borders. My question is from the Fedora project side, are there resources infrastructure tools that would help you do these things that Fedora could provide? Just wondering how could we help you? We love the idea for example, the Spanish channel in Matrix. This was our first step, maybe have a bridge between the Telegram channel because it's very, very, very interesting. The talk all day technical talk all day in this channel and maybe if you see in Matrix, you can all the work and see what we are doing. So yeah, I believe we believe that this first step to provide us a Spanish channel will be will be very, very good for start. And then with Luis and Jose we can coordinate to do some remote talks or maybe they can go to Mexico or some of people go to Panama or other countries and I don't know we need to reestablish that friendship that all we have all this time. We were discussing with Luis previously that we also first of all we need to identify the communities and the individuals active and contributing and are willing to reactivate what in the past it was a huge community all over Latin. It is not the case in these times but yeah I think we need to resolve all the issues but we can do that, right? Yeah step by step, one by day There's something beer money, please Of course and we have a food con in Cancun or something like that Why not? Maybe celebrate these events in Mexico or in some place in Mexico Yeah maybe the next block of I don't know Who knows? Yeah we can pull it off We are looking on that Another question or comment? I'm going to do double duty of asking a question and operating the camera So my question for you is do you see any other open source communities that are very active in Latin America that you see as inspiration? Yeah we see a lot of communities in Mexico Python communities C-Saturn communities Blender community Rust community they have a lot of of events and we don't go with them Our first step is try to get this communication and participating in their events and everything but yeah in Mexico a lot of communities are working and they inspire us There are also companies that are increasingly looking this interaction with communities like the one that organized the event that Alex showed that open source contribution that was organized by a company but looking to integrate and to activate the communities this event is growing and taking It's a very huge event maybe 100 500 people? A lot of people in Mexico for everything Google, genome Python everything you want is there but Fedora no that's why we want to participate in all kinds of events and everything Yeah I also have given talks to the Go Lank community with the Rust community and I always do the like come join the Fedora I know from my perspective I work for a university and doing open science and open scholarship work and much of the world actually looks towards Latin American universities and institutions as like leaders in open science because there's been so many really successful and like well-built initiatives throughout Latin America so I know it's like Fedora and open science there's some projects but I thought it was a cool connection looking at the work. In the university use some distribution in genics we go there and say you know who creates a genome? What's created in Mexico? Of course Of course Yeah obviously For example Yeah Federico Mena and Miguel Dicaca Yeah and also not only universities but research centers they try to use and I don't know why but might be CERN uses CentOS I think and it might be influencing other there's for example in Chihuahua a very prestigious research center and those guys use Fedora and I from time to time I bump into those PhD guys in the bar and they start giving me hard times of hey this package I'll help I will help be like that but they are enthusiasts but they're doing science, hard science with Fedora Even the government have a lot of projects with open source and Linux Any other questions or comments? Not really a question but thanks for your presentation it was amazing like doing some really cool stuff and I love the energy you can see all the passion and energy you're putting into that and we'll talk after I would really be happy to help to have maybe Fedora Coroés workshop or like Joshua Levins and have someone from the team come and talk about or do a workshop or stuff like that that would be really cool Thank you Anyone else? Thank you Thank you We have some stickers from Mexico and we have two coffee mugs two coffee mugs with a nice logo my team do it for us so maybe the first person who comments We have another one