 This year talent in this room is absurd, it's absolutely absurd but it's a great opportunity to learn from these guys not just for for him but for myself for everyone. This is truly truly an exceptional room full of diplomacy It's on film I have to say this What would you say about what about the people here is there talent here there's lots of talent but it's it's an inward-looking talent it's it's gonna implode into a black hole and there'll be nothing to fill it the self-absorbed completely self-absorbed because they're gonna die eventually right all these guys will look at them all because they're all a little tiny click they're gonna get sucked in this black hole of themselves because that's all the competes against themselves it's a nightmare it's a nightmare it's gonna destroy the hobby there's no new blood there's no casual gamers who are interested in playing on any sort of a competitive level in this hobby because point system the points the rating systems that are pervasive on the internet and also the point systems that work at tournaments that are so bizarre that only the most involved people can possibly understand and work and so those people who do understand and work them work together excluding the people who are easy fodder and they do not play the game the game is to win to 18 centers how many times has have we had that's kind of a game here this weekend but one because they all say well this is good enough we've got our points let's send it right here that is exactly what happens in most games there's the odd game where someone actually has a actually decides to go for but it's very rare now it is nobody plays that game any more intentional it may happen by accident at tournaments and even it at organized get-togethers where they're not necessarily tournaments organized get-togethers in places where there is a diplomacy presence there's a community when they get together the same thing still happens and they push away the casual gamers and beginners are also turned off after they played a couple of games in this environment it's a sad thing but that's the way what do you say to an outsider who comes in like myself who comes in and sits down at a board and before the game even starts there's two neighbors who've already decided on what the outcome of the game is going to be and they're not really easy to convince to do anything other than what their plan was before they even sat down I'll tell you come to my place on Saturday night we'll have a nice fun game and we'll play to win okay play to win and that's that and this will not and none of these I will not send these standings to buzz any and having published it on the NADF standings or anywhere else and that's that's the only way to fix the hobby is to have more casual gaming more informal get together where the results are not published on the internet or in any other forum where people can keep track so all your hungry stays alive yes surrounded by masses of walks yeah I mean this is really how does that work so everyone voted for a draw yeah but there's veto power yeah anybody could veto it I did not veto it because I thought they were stopping me and it would take many years to break these still break the lock line but weren't the points worth it very other points worth it