 So you guys listen, we are live in Atlanta and the big purpose behind this honesty is to actually talk to people Get their real experiences the real thoughts if you don't get out of the office and come and talk to the people who really have The real experience as you're doing yourself a disservice. So this is our street interviews you guys I think it's a great great opportunity to find out what people really think about policing And what better to do it than in the city of Atlanta We are near the CNN building and we're gonna have a tough conversation about police reform and what that looks like Mother of two amazing young black men. So as a former CEO and Actually seeing what goes on in the prison system and I feel like it's very well of you know That's cool. The prison pipeline that goes on as well. So I think I Don't as far as reform It's basically just listening to what's listening to the voices, okay, and what do you mean voices? What do you mean by that? I feel like sometimes as black men the voice is not heard Really, I think the problem is that this connect between the people and the police force I Think people are from the beginning like from children they grow up seeing the divide they see themselves as one side and The other side as you know the opposition like I was pulled over the other day Under suspicion of stealing catalytic converters and I was I was like wearing a button-down shirt like right nice clothes coming from work Okay, and like if you're stealing catalytic converters, you're gonna be covered up and dirty I'm not wearing that and How well how was the officer was he was he professional was he respectful or the first the first officer was very professional he was a city cop and He was outside of his jurisdiction, but my description matched and so they called out like four County officers hold on hold on hold on. So you are racially profiled It just so happens I had a best friend who he grew up to be a like a Police sergeant lieutenant, but even before that, I mean, I don't know whether I've never been the circles or I Mean, I've had a couple of run-ins, but nothing nothing too crazy that would make me Hate law enforcement the way some have and in this big old ball do like some like You need to tell me the truth right now son He says what were you doing? Where are you coming from and why are you here now? like if you Were in the ear of politicians What would you tell them that would have a big impact and Robertsa changing the system like what what direction are we going? What things do you need to point out just anything off the top of your head from your personal experience? I feel like as far as like nonviolent offenders I feel like we are black men are more incarcerated in our other counterparts. So I feel like just even you know just starting there as well as like The stereotype and targeting I feel like we black boys get targeted even with like the Traveller and Martin situation so I don't understand why it is such a Issue where I'm not gonna say like they're scared of us But when they see our skin our skin color, we become a threat. I was like I'm just coming from work Just got some taco bell He was like you need to think about that one more time because I got witnesses and I got camera I got a camera cameras all over and I was like I'm telling you the truth. It's like whatever Okay, he goes off for a few minutes. He comes back. He's like we're gonna need to search this vehicle now we can wait 30 minutes to get a warrant from the cameras or you can go ahead and let me do it now and Like I know they're fishing and I should have I knew my rights, but I shouldn't have let them do that Okay, I guess it's so much because I see it a lot Especially even in the prison system where a lot of black men are also mistreated. Yeah, so So me actually do you think do you think a big solution would be to have more? Representation of black people in the okay. Well, that's the challenge, right? We've talked about this a lot is that we need more representation within our community But how do we fight that stigma that a lot of people notice when it comes to being black we get we get called names We're in so we're called sellouts. So then how do we fix that problem? Like what what do you think will be a good? Remini to that solution to get to encourage black people to get in the profession to have that impact actually I did actually apply for the police department, but that was that was a That came later on but grown up if I saw more More if I interacted with more African-American police officers that were actually telling me what it's like to be a cop talking about the The lifestyle right that that you could that you could live You know when you're a kid you really don't really understand those things you want to you want to shoot for the stars You want to be a celebrity right this or right or some kids? They want to be they want to be in the streets, but um the Sheriff of that County is a really crooked dude, and I mean he takes bribes and everything Oh, hold on Do you want it? Do you want to shout out that County at all or listen this this is what let me Just say this this is what this is about right Having sharing people's real experiences that they have with law enforcement and then also talking about what needs to change for those Who don't know and I didn't tell you I'm formal law enforcement, right? So so Russell doesn't know and I'm advocating to bring about change right because that isn't fair That's not okay, and he does have rights like we all do as citizens and we want to discuss those things that need to Change and so he's saying hey listen these officers tried to finesse us out of our out of our freedoms, and that's not okay How do you think he should have the officer should have handled that situation because you cooperated just simply because you didn't want any Any trouble right, but what do you think would have been a fair way for the officer that to handle you more professional way? The first cop was very professional. He said if it was up to me I would have let you go by now, but since out of my jurisdiction they need to come and do their thing And I was like okay cool. I get it And then the second cop they had no right to try to get me to search my vehicle They were fishing you know, I think the problem is just just the history just a history of the police force It's like this um that that you know it is it's the brotherhood We've seen it documented on shows and TV like now people saying a defund the police Personally, I don't understand that I don't understand the fun the police But you can see the you can see the shift in and How police are doing doing their jobs they're like oh Oh, you want to hold this accountable and you're gonna you're gonna act like you don't respect this and things like that So just watch you heard of the situation going on in Chicago from last weekend with the riots with the teens Did you hear about that? All right, so what are your thoughts and Revisa? How can we fix that situation the teens are all over the place in Chicago? Of course a lot of them are black kids. We've seen on on the news the media What are your what are your thoughts to that? Is there anything that we could do to reverse that problem? I Feel like it starts at home, right? That was a lot of kids though, that's a lot of homes that's a lot of homes so so what I mean What can how do you can't legislate people's households? So then what do we do as a community? What is missing out of our community that we can take responsibility for to where that problem gets Significantly reduced away boys and girls clubs Boys club boys and girls clubs We don't have that when I was growing up we had that for our for my age group and I feel like a lot of the people that I was in the boys and girls club with we became very successful But we had something to do after school other than just a after-school program And I feel like those after-school programs are just a placeholder for oh into my parent gets home So I feel like we need to bring back those boys and girls club those boys clubs those mentors In Atlanta, we had that situation I don't know if you're here for but do on when the incident with race our Brooks took place a lot of The police kind of step back and let the citizens do their thing and we saw the crime go up So a lot of violence go up and so So last let me ask you two more questions and that type of situation with a police scale back And this they leave the citizens to kind of handle things on their own Do you think the black community? Do you think we're prepared to have a community without law enforcement or do you believe that we absolutely need law enforcement? We just need better law enforcement or law enforcement law enforcement that looks like us. I Think we just need better law enforcement So much trouble as we capable of getting into What are we gonna do police ourselves? You're gonna be better people's to make sure that you know keep the crime rate down. I don't think so And come to find out later The sheriff is Joe Chapman Walton County by the way He told them to interrogate me to try to find something go fishing See if I had drugs in the car That's what they're really searching for because obviously I asked them before they conducted the search like What are you looking for in specific? He said some tools. I was like why drive a truck. I got tools in my truck No, I'm a country boy driving driving a truck. I got some tools He was like crime to have tools He said he's looking for a sawzall and I was like all right I don't have a sawzall and it was like midnight. So I was just trying to go home and I said Screw go for it. Listen. We had an amazing time today We spoke to a lot of great great people out here in the city of Atlanta You got their thoughts on criminal justice reform police reform and overall what we could do What type of steps we could take to actually really make a difference you guys? Thank you so much for rocking with us today. Look forward to more of these three interviews I'm real Nathan Daly and signing out. Peace