 So Kieran, I've heard from a lot of people that there was this turning point in maybe sort of perhaps even the 1970s when around the time when Israel was founded that Ireland was actually kind of quite supportive as a whole of Israel. Were you around back then or have you heard that story as well? And can you tell me exactly when that turning point occurred in public sentiment? I was around then. I'm old enough to have vague memories of the Yom Kippur War in 1973 and I mean I don't remember the exact conversations amongst parents and family but I think I get a general sense that there was a kind of a nervousness about you know will Israel survive or will Israel be overrun because obviously for the first few days Israel was caught completely unawares and the Egyptians were making major advances across the Sinai Peninsula. So I do remember those conversations. I think the Lebanon, the situation in Lebanon might have started being a turning point. Just one politician called Lenin. Oh my god I can't give his Russian name now. He was Minister for Defence Brian Lenin. We're Brian Lenin. You know I'm talking about Brian Lenin senior and not not Brian Lenin junior. Brian Lenin senior was Minister for Defence back in the late 70s early 80s in the Irish Army where the Irish Army was in sort of Lebanon acting as a peacekeeping force, a unifil and he mentioned that as being a point when he started to kind of move away from being pro-Israel and more pro-Palestinian and it was around that time that a lot of Irish soldiers were being shot by South Lebanon Army and some of our proxies that were released ostensibly backed by Israel. So and Tinky went there a few times and felt that he wasn't impressed by the behavior of the Israeli Army. So that might be the turning point but it was also the IRA. The IRA had had close ties with the PLO and they would have started to agitate for Palestinianism and Palestinian nationalism. I mean the Northern Ireland issue definitely has had its effects. It's kind of a chicken and egg situation in Northern Ireland. I'm not sure whether the United Kingdom community was pro-Israel so the IRA and the Nationalist decided to be pro-Palestinian or whether the IRA decided to be pro-Palestinian and then the Protestant Union, the Israeli community decided to be pro-Israel but that has had its effects as well. That would have changed some minds to be more anti-Israel.