 Hello everyone. Welcome to our fall 2018 OER degree community meeting. This is Una Daly from the Community College Consortium for OER and thank you all for coming. Today's meeting is around the year two research highlights which Richard will be sharing with us and also of course our calendar and then we're going to hear from five of our grantee colleges on how they create student awareness strategies. Let me just start our slideshow. Alright, there's the usual suspects. I already gave you the agenda. When at the end we are going to talk just a little bit about, you know, opportunities for conferences in the spring. There's still some that are open for proposals and then we're going to talk to you about case studies and those of you who still would like to do one before the end of the year, we'd be very excited to have those. Alright, I just wanted to give you a couple of updates from the field and please, you know, jump in if you have any questions here. We're a pretty small group this morning so please don't hesitate. It's open access week and I wonder if any of you are doing anything special at your college for that. It's part of the bigger open community, you know, beyond just open education. So open access is very much kind of one of our sister movements, if you will. And we just posted something on our community email list asking people to let us know if they're using open access journals and which ones they would recommend. So if they're using those in their classroom. So if you get a chance, respond to that. Quill sent that out and we'll be posting that as a blog, as a blog post later on for other folks. I don't know how many of you were part of the Department of Ed Open Textbook pilot submissions but that was announced and Libra Text which is based at UC Davis but has grantee participants around the country did receive that award and it was a single award which was rather unusual. So they got the entire five million dollars and the exciting thing though I think for those of us who aren't participating in that that round is that there is another one that was just approved for the same amount of money and they plan on doing 20 allocations which would be up to 250,000 each for 20 folks to participate. So we're waiting to hear more. I think we probably won't hear about that till the new year. Another interesting thing is the Open Textbook Network OTN. I think some of you participate in that network. They launched a publishing curriculum. So and there's a link here. There's a Canvas course you can get anyone can go in and take a look at and if you've got faculty who are publishing on your campus or want to publish it might be a great thing to refer them to. And finally there was many great sessions at the Open Ed conference just two weeks ago. We were talking about that as people were coming in earlier. We did a Google sheet with the list of slides I'm sorry the list of presentations that were ATD based. I have gone back to the website the Open Ed conference website. I've had some trouble retrieving the slides from presentations and I don't know if anyone else has had that. They're probably in the process of fixing that. In the meanwhile there we had somebody put out on our community email us please submit your slides and so we'll be we'll be consolidating that list of slides that were submitted and also creating a big posting so people can go there as well to see the the slides that have been contributed through the community through the through the community college consortium. But interested in hearing if anyone else has had any luck getting access to those presentations from Open Ed. All right I think I'm going to turn this over now to Fran and Richard and Fran and Richard I'll move the slides for you if that's okay unless you would I could give you control if you prefer. No that's okay. Okay hello everybody so I just want to go over a couple of things for the rest of this calendar year. So for the right now I think you all have gotten communication from SRI about the faculty survey so you should be getting our responses back to them as soon as you can. Next year in 2019 there'll be another data collection from SRI and RPK group in February and then later on in the month of February is our big dream conference and you all got an email from me a while back asking you to submit proposals. I know that a lot of you did so thank you. We're actually going through those proposals this weekend next so I'll get a chance to see all the grantees that sent things in. The 20 by 20 presentations are short presentations they're sort of like a Pechacucha style engaging just a couple of minutes first slide. Those presentations are due those proposals I'm sorry are due November 16th so if you're interested in still coming to dream and maybe doing a smaller quote-unquote session you can apply to do one of those. On the 28th of February is when the final report will be due and I'm going to be sending out the template for the report before the holidays so the holidays mean the winter holidays so before Christmas and new year you'll get that template so you can have a good amount of time to complete it and turn it back in the end of February. May 30th through June 1st is going to be our very first teaching and learning summit so we're excited about this and OER is going to be one of the strands we're thinking about having three strands or three tracks and OER is going to be one of those so if you're interested in knowing more about that we'll be sending info about that out as well along with the website to register and just learn more about the different areas that we're going to focus on. And then in September of 2019 is when everything completely wraps up and the final research and evaluation report will be released. You all know that we released the second year report Richard's going to talk a little bit about that in a second at OpenEd and that was super exciting because we got a lot of press traction, we got a lot of Twitter traction so thank you for everybody who was able to share out and read the report and participate in the data collection. Next slide. So one thing that I sent out when I sent this last report out to everybody is to ask you for all of your artifacts so if there are artifacts that you've been collecting things you've presented, any strategies, any PD materials, anything like that, any reports you've written, articles, if you can submit those things to this link we'll email this back out to everyone as well but if you can submit them here that'd be great because we want to have a repository of everything that you all have done and created in addition to actual works content so this is sort of the supplemental materials that you all have. Next slide. So as I mentioned Dream is coming out so that's ATD's huge conference it's the 15th anniversary and since this will 2019 will technically be the last year of the grant we want to make sure that we highlight all the grantees. We're going to have a grantee panel and we would love to have participation from as many of you as possible and if you are attending Dream send me a note if you're planning to attend Dream send me a note because we want to make sure that we include you in the panel. The registration has gone live so it's on the ATD website and I think it's right on the banner where you can click it and select to come to the conference and then also at the conference we're going to have an OER reception for all of the grantees. We normally have had this in the past we have to decide on whether or not it's going to be open to everybody or just the grantees that are there that's a little bit up in the air but we really want to celebrate all the work you've done and especially recognize you if you've been chosen to give an actual concurrent session as well. Next slide I think is now the report. So Richard I'm going to turn it over to you. Yeah hi thank you. So yeah you should have seen the findings from the year two of our OER degree initiative and just to give you a little background on this the the original plan was not for it was for this to be an internal report for a number of reasons but after you know reading the initial kind of report from June and talking with with the researchers at SRI and our PK group we thought it would be it's really important to if we could to kind of release it publicly so we spent actually we decided very quickly around August to do that and pulled it together and updated the data which which I think helped make us a little bit more confident about just the findings in the report the data sets were a little bit more robust so you know I'm not going to go into too much detail hopefully you've read it but I think you know we're I think we're pretty we're pretty pleased with with what the the findings of the report so I kind of have maybe put these things in two or three buckets first is just the student impacts seem pretty positive to me when you look at how the impact of these courses on on students both from affordability standpoint like how the cost savings impact of students and allowed them additional access in order to pay bills and things like that particularly students who are Pell students or under right and represented students it was pretty encouraging and as well as the students perceptions of OER that was pretty encouraging too was pretty positive I'm getting some maybe folks can put yourself on mute and the the thing that maybe was of concern was students weren't aware of the OER courses for the most part I see I see why that is I think that might be a little different now I think colleges are promoting their courses a little bit more but many of the students didn't even know until they were taking the survey that they were in an OER course the other interesting kind of bucket is around the costs and I think there's a you know for me a raised eyebrow when I saw the the cost for course development on the one hand we we've never had this kind of information before this kind of detailed information on how much instructional time is involved when you calculate in faculty pay percentage of their pay and incentives and stipends and release time and and all the things all the kind of elements that that are actually contributing to developing an OER course and and so the the costs were higher than than I anticipated particularly with the with teams of the faculty it was almost twice as much which is which is I think even more surprising but maybe not maybe it's not surprising but again it's these kind of initial findings are things that we can we can really address really think about ways to help colleges really better kind of reduce those costs and be kind of more maybe a more efficient or kind of approach it differently to deliver those those costs but but when you come look at the student outcomes compared to the cost which you can do something about without affecting the student outcomes I think again the report of course pretty positive and I also I also think it's really interesting that we now have and we hadn't before a way of calculating costs for for you know these kind of figuring out if you're an institution and you know a lot of institutions use a hundred dollars as a as a kind of a marker for cost savings but but this report kind of gives a little bit more detailed and you know maybe more complex way of figuring out what what the what the cost savings might be for your institution so we're hoping to put out a some kind of a widgets of some sort to to help with with colleges do that I don't know what it's on these slides I'm just talking off the top of my head so if there's is there another slide yeah I think I talked about that see what the next one says see if I missed anything let's get a move forward let me move the slide forward okay so so anyway so I think the report was was pretty positive again if you or anyone has questions about it or didn't receive it for some reason let us know but that's the that's the gist of it and we're hoping to again present kind of maybe the collected findings from the two reports at dream to our kind of a broader audience so thanks for turning it back over to you Inna and I think you're muted still thank you very much Frank yeah yeah works a little better um yeah so I just wanted to say that um it is on the slides uh the link there and I think somebody's going to put it in the report as well um and I just wanted to follow up on that last bullet on the slide about students working more than 20 hours per week are less likely to be aware of other OER courses at their campus and I don't think that this is particularly surprising um that those students are a little less connected to what's happening on campus but it it's it's you know an opportunity to realize that those students need extra outreach and are really very much the students that we're trying to target with these OER degrees so figuring out how to do that I think will be a challenge but also a real positive so next I wanted to introduce the topic of creating student awareness of OER degree pathways and as Richard mentioned this is this continues to be a challenge and in the report that you folks submitted at the end of June only four of the colleges reported that they had a full student communications plan in place and so it's I know that many of you've been working on it since then but so it's definitely an area that people are are working on and so we have some excellent folks to share with us today about what they've started and I know I approached a number of you and you said well you know we're still in the beginning and I said well this is this is great because I think many are in the same boat and and hearing what the initial efforts are and how those are working out is going to be really helpful I also put a link here to a webinar that we did with Leida Kaiser from Lord Fairfax Community College and I see that she's online today as well we did a webinar in creating student awareness of OER in general back in March of 2017 and I went back and reviewed it earlier this week and Leida did an excellent job in identifying your audience to you know the and so I highly recommend you go back and take a look at her slides or listen to the webinar and the link is here on this page to get other insights even though we weren't specifically talking about degree pathways at that point I think much of it's really helpful all right well I'm going to turn it over now to Jean Amaral from Bureau of Manhattan Community College to talk about the work that they're doing to help students find out about these programs and enroll in them hi all thanks for this opportunity to share our experience I'm mostly going to be talking about our failures actually because we've been fairly unsuccessful in our efforts which I am framing within the rule of seven so many of you may be aware of this marketing theorem or whatever we might call it that says that for people to act in relation to something that you're trying to engage them with they have to encounter it in seven different spaces or at seven different times and so I have the seven different areas that we've tried to reach students in and again it's been a really mixed bag and we continue to struggle with this to give context we have 27,000 students and as I'm sure it's with all of your campuses with commuter students coming and going we also offer classes from 7 a.m. till midnight five days a week and then we offer classes on weekends as well so we have this really extended calendar and it continues to be a challenge but at any rate so some of the things we are doing we certainly have monitors the electronic monitors around the campus that many of you do as well I'm sure so we've got the e-signage up and we don't have a clear indication if students are actually paying attention to that and of course it's cycling through many different announcements on that and so part of it are they in the right place at the right time to actually see the ZTC or the OER and does it make sense to them I'm not sure I know we use some our electronic signage we use what was designed by CUNY Central for all of the CUNY campuses that are involved with OER work and I'm not sure it's hard to tell if the language we're using is reaching students so we could probably do some work there to figure out is that drawing their eye and that do they actually know and do they follow up it's really hard to find language also that students immediately get it so we go back and forth between OER and zero textbook cost in terms of trying to work with students we certainly know that zero textbook cost has more meaning it was actually our student government association that encouraged us to use student textbook cost when we were zero textbook cost when we were talking to students and we also have flyers and these have been put up on the bulletin boards across all of our buildings but we're also handing them out in various locations and these are flyers that we share with other departments so they're flyers that go to the advisors that go to the faculty they go to student affairs and student activities and we also use those flyers in our library instructions so whenever we're given classes we're actually distributing those flyers as well and we teach between two and three hundred classes a semester so there's a fair amount of folks that we're reaching in that way and a lot of times we'll ask you know have you heard of this beforehand and often they will say no so we are reaching more folks there that then that don't know then do know often it's just one or two students in the class unless they're actually in a class that is zero textbook cost and then most of them are aware that it is at that point we also do tabling we've done over the past couple semesters we try to do one or two tabling events a semester and so with cupcakes works really well we have food to attract them over to the table because it is hard to get students to stop we were finding this out today when we didn't have cupcakes we're tabling this week and this week we have halloween candy but it's not the draw the cupcakes you really are and so we're finding that students it can be hard to get them to stop as they're walking between their classes even asking them do you pay too much for textbooks or do you want to pay less for textbooks we still get the students saying no thank you and keep on wandering by so we have found that having a little food at the table can help bring them over and so we do again these tabling events uh at least once a semester if not twice um providing some kind of food and today we're actually or this week we're actually gathering stories from them which i know in many campuses have done and i think it's a great idea where we're asking them how much they're spending on textbooks and what would they have spent that money on elsewhere um and that effort is connected um to our efforts to actually finally um get with our sga our student government association so you'll see they're not on this list because we have been unsuccessful at reaching and connecting with our student government association um ours is pretty locked down by our sort of student affairs and student activities folks we don't have easy access to those to the senators and to the president but we're trying to get it in with them and we're also working with niperg and so part of the tabling was to start getting some data from the students at niperg and sga could potentially use maybe to start petition but also to share with faculty in a faculty senate meeting and we're actually running into some difficulties there with uh just the politics of the situation so um you know we didn't necessarily reach out to all the people we maybe should have so we've gotten some questions from different people and we're and it's also not clear to us politically where niperg stands on our campuses some campuses are very supportive and administration is very supportive you know i think ours might be but i also think it might be a more political situation with niperg in the mix but we certainly hopefully we'll have more news at the end of the semester we're hoping that if we are able to do a petition and have sga lead that petition drive that we can deliver to the faculty senate in the spring to create more awareness and to actually increase the number of courses on our campus um so the last two uh touch points for us are through the advisors and the faculty and these are really big of course because the faculty see the students more than anybody else and usually most if not all of our students do meet with an advisor during registration so we really try to get the information out to those folks as a way to make sure that students are being advised well in terms of their textbook cost courses and that's hard to monitor in terms of we're we're hoping that we get the information to them and then they're using it and anecdotally we hear that they are but we haven't found a way to to to to determine whether or not they're using the information as much as we would like them to and working with the students a couple of provisos with that one of the reason one thing we struggle we haven't actually promoted the the OER degree because we're just finishing up a lot of our courses this semester and so there hasn't been necessarily a whole degree to promote but we are promoting the OER in zero textbook cost courses but one of the difficulties for us is we have over 4 000 sections of courses and we're slowly approaching a number that makes sense and can be useful for students and I know we talked about this or ATD talked about this in the first report of the thin pathways and not having enough sections of those general ed so we're also a little nervous about you know talking to students about this program and then they go in and nothing fits their schedules so those folks who work more than 20 hours a week so we're trying to while doing the outreach just into making them aware we're actually using that outreach as more of an opportunity to get them to do advocacy because we still don't feel we have enough sections that we're adequately adequately serving students and we feel like there might be a little false advertising in this for many of our students who try to sign up for his ETC course and are unable to fit anything into their schedules so our outreach reach to educate them about that is closely tied to advocacy and trying to advocate for more courses so that's what BMCC has been up to and jean was one of those people who said you know i'm not sure i have anything to say a few days ago and this this was this was wonderful really really insightful and there was a couple of comments also in the chat window if you want to take a look jean yeah i i did see some coming up but unfortunately i'm of an age where i can't really talk at the same time yeah no problem i would thought maybe you just um yeah i'm scanning right now i don't know if anybody had a specific question i'm happy certainly to take it as i scan through to see if there was one there quill was asking just about the timing on when you do your tabling is it during registration or is it yeah yeah so definitely so this week is registration for us um so we do try to either do it just before or during registration absolutely i think leida had a point about um having students evaluate oer as potentially part of library instruction as well um you know digital literacy and so forth sure um we haven't had the opportunity to do that but i know certainly people are and i believe our sister campus legordia has a program that they've run where they've had students be doing evaluations as well when you mentioned fourth four thousand oer or ztz sections so that's four thousand sections of total classes and we probably have four hundred sections so we think there's probably 10 percent of sections that have been converted at this point yeah you know that four thousand sections would be dream be i was gonna say we're not all puny or but those are bmc so yeah that's the bmc c number so we offer over four thousand sections of courses and then we probably have four to five hundred sections that are oer or ztc well that's 10 percent the good start yeah we feel like it we do absolutely feel like it's a good start but at the same time that means a lot of students are not going to fit their schedule and what we find is students actually start with is there something that fits my schedule um so a lot of them say you know i don't look at the textbook first i'm just looking for a course that fits my schedule because i have so much that i'm juggling so we definitely need the gen ed the high enrollment gen ed courses to be we want to flip them totally so we want to go from however you know we might have 10 sections in a um hundred section course we want to flip the entire course and so we're looking at different ways that we might achieve that but certainly one of our goals well great thanks thanks so much gene and we appreciate that and next we're going to move on to Cheryl Huff at germana germana community college in in virginia and um i'll move this along to you Cheryl and just let me know when you want me to move the slides okay great thank you um wow gene that's really impressive of what you've got going on your way ahead of us with the cupcakes for sure and the tabling um bmcc used to be my neighbor on chamber street i live don't learn straight just around the corner so i have upon the spirit institution um so we are looking at this as um something that we're going to ramp up like as soon as the grant in um we intentionally waited to do very much of anything beyond really working very closely with faculty to spread awareness uh and knowing that uh full-time faculty at least service advisors but we've also had tremendous buy-in from adjuncts in helping us develop courses and we know that they are often in contact with students in ways that uh kind of alternative students coming in at night um coming in on saturdays so that's been a big help and one of the things we started doing is when we hire full-time faculty we're being sure that they're OER oriented and that they're willing to um help us grow the program in OER um so we are now sort of looking at what we have established which one of the things that we got going was an attribute richard started the attribute at the VCCS a couple years ago but actually implementing it on each campus was kind of a challenge because even though we all use SIS it doesn't work the same way at every college the schedule isn't built the same way um we ended up with a system that's not beautiful they can't search OER classes from the first screen it takes a little bit of a click and you can see click here to search classes they have to type in OER I know that's that's does not sound that challenging but anytime you have to ask students to go an extra step in terms of registration especially their new students or they're not working directly with their advisor so they do have to search in that way and basically what it does is just pop up all the classes that are listed on our schedule that's been kind of a problem and that's why I say ah there's the rub because um the problem is somebody has to always be on the notes in our schedule to be sure that every OER class is listed in there or it won't show up when they search here um and part of the problem if any of you have been department chairs or involved in scheduling things change at the very last minute staffing changes so you might have one instructor doing English 11 completely OER but then that instructor gets switched to a different section a book's been ordered to that section it becomes really complicated uh when it happens at the last minute so we're still working always with our registrar and our other people who get involved in this process to streamline this a little bit but we do the good news is we do have the access to the search capability I think for the next slide right so we we are kind of gearing up for this we've had busy years at your mountain because we have a new president she's been here 15 months we just had her very busy um an operation so the marketing staff was pretty much out of the loop for a while we also just finished the SACS review happening we're hiring a new uh CETL director but their primary focus is going to be on the QEP for the next five years and probably day's learning so that's one of the things we're working about is to get them to understand how PBL and OER hook up I'm sure we could come up with a great acronym if we join up those two acronyms for the other but um so we're looking at outreach to admins I put grassroots as a last bullet here but really grassroots sort of been a whole picture um we find that working with department chairs I'm meeting with department chairs next uh next week at their monthly meeting to talk about how we could both spread the word out to students and how we can spread the word out to our faculty to keep growing this now that we have this really tidy groundswell of two degrees two C degrees science and business we feel like we can start marking them as degrees but our admins have been very very busy with SACS and a new president and a lot of restructuring the OER committee got put on hold which was a little sad but so we're kind of looking at it as finding ways to bring the OER out to everybody who's a stakeholder and I like the idea of the table with cupcakes because one of the things we haven't done much is to work with students but the timing wasn't quite right um we do have a cable tv show that I'm a co-host of so we're going to be doing an episode at least you know an interview about that which goes out into the local community it spread our reach pretty much all over our whole service area so we're excited about that I've talked about OER on the show before where we first got the degree but now we can actually talk about the degrees um we have a local radio show that is really friendly to the college and helps us get things out on an intense show we always have ad campaigns and local movie theaters papers billboards so we'll be spreading the word there too we're also looking at how we can bring this to dual enrollment and high school recruiters and I think high school recruiters due to focus groups and so we're looking at how we can develop focus groups I know that Anita Walls at Virginia Tech had a lot of luck with student focus groups and spreading the word through student organizations so we're going to try all of those things I'm letting it up great thank you Cheryl um yeah I didn't know you were a co-host on a cable tv show it's pretty funny I do it with our Spanish and Italian professor Ashley Anglin who is secretly a local theater buff and she's really better at it than I am but we have a great time and we get to meet really super people we get to focusize a lot of things that are happening around uh Germana and at the DCS level so it's very useful yeah I think it's another great avenue for outreach um there's there's a question in the chat window but I'm Cheryl and Quill and Sally I'm going to ask you to save that one to the end since I've got three more speakers it's a it's a question I hear more and more frequently um so go ahead and chat and and we can speak to it at the at the end after I've given everyone a chance if that's okay great yep all right thank you all righty let's see next up is Sally Housdad from Lake Washington Institute of Technology great thank you Una can everybody can you hear me okay yes uh-huh great I went from one webinar to this one and I was hoping that it all was seamless um excellent well thank you for the opportunity to share um we struggled initially and everything that I'm going to share is not ideal um at this point either but we really did struggle getting um awareness built not just among students but the broader college community and part of that was challenges um that both Gene and Cheryl shared so what what the main things that we focused on to kind of get off the ground was building a brand for open at Lake Washington um and so our OER core team developed the idea of being open for learning and using an open sign kind of as the symbol for us um and so that really helped us because now students see that logo and they're kind of like okay this is what this is about um or they are brand new and they're just interested because it is really catching so that's on all of our digital signage all of our posters we did have t-shirts made using grant funds that we distributed and I'll talk a little bit more about who we distributed those to we just purchased large banners so our college has a lot of indoor atrium spaces with railings where we display banners about different things going on at the college so we're going to add our open for learning banners to that and then we have an OER website that has the logo on it as well so really consistently using that brand and using it everywhere that we can has been helpful for us we along with that um try to communicate as consistently as possible so we do have our courses marked in the course schedule um and face some of the challenges that have already been mentioned with that but I do send out an email to all students and all student services um when the schedule for the following quarter goes live when students are getting ready to register that specifically lists all of the OER courses and so that happens every single quarter as that registration opens let's see what else um the digital signage corresponds with that so I love the idea of adding tabling during registration so thank you for that idea um so that'll just enhance kind of that timing and then we do an annual event during open education week so part of what we wanted to do in terms of working specifically with students is really make sure that there was something that was active for them as opposed to a lot of the passive advertising um and awareness building we've been doing so we use open education week um last year we were really cost focused so that is the image um in the center we did the activity so much what Jean was talking about about what students would have used money for um we had a interactive activity where they could share how much they spent on books um just so we could kind of get a gauge as a college as well of where our students were at and spending and then this year for that we're actually going to have an open um pedagogy based project so we want to develop an open student guide of the college so we'll have a project where students can take photos um with their phone and submit those and write about the resources they use on campus and then the last part is engaging connectors so again mentioned previously and i think um that reiteration is because it is really powerful um providing information we provided information and t-shirts to advising staff workforce development financial aid trio student government and student programs faculty who teach using OER and instructional administration staff and with the t-shirt they got kind of the really short language that we've developed around what OER is and why it's important and impactful and so they got both of those together so when they wear the shirt they're able to answer we just decided that those t-shirts will also be worn on the first day of every quarter with an ask me button as well by those folks who have them so that students know who they can go to to help navigate the campus so that just puts OER out there in another context and then um finally oh we do have a loose partnership with our student government i do have in my notes another reminder thank you again for this webinar to get on their schedule more consistently but our students when they first heard about the OER degree initiative when we kicked off the grant um asked our president more about it and so she invited me to her open forums with students and so we were able to answer their questions about OER there and so that was a really great way to build into a system that already exists that students do expect to participate in was partnering with the president for her forums and then the third picture on the slide is a shout out to our advising team so those are all of our student advisors who wore their shirts during open ed week last year hey wow yeah i love you the student services is so important closing the loop so that students actually get in there and get registered yeah absolutely as as richard said he wears a medium i wear a large just just joking but they're very those are very attractive t-shirts um yes all right i'm going to move right along um and we'll come back for questions um at the end and next up is michelle beachy from Monroe community college um in SUNY michelle yeah i'm not sure if i saw michelle michelle are you are you on with us today you might need to unmute yourself here she is um i'm not hearing you michelle maybe you need to turn up your microphone are you able to hear me now yes we are okay i guess it's my headphones are not working um so i think are probably going to say a lot of similar things that other people have said as well um it looks like we're all kind of fighting the same battle um and generally at Monroe we've been marketing more of our courses for the same reason as as uh i think others have that all of our our degree pathway courses were not in place at the time um that we would have been marketing we've kind of learned now that we're gearing up towards the end of the program what would have been great to know at the beginning to to do that marketing ahead of time um but one of the things that we added um last fall of 2017 is the oer attribute in our course schedule so you can see that we have a very easy to find um click box students can just check that and um it'll take them right to whatever courses are offered via uh oer um we are having a difficulty with the very manual process of coding all of the right courses in oer we get a lot of faculty that say i'm teaching oer but my course is not coded oer or i'm not teaching oer and my course is coded oer so we're really trying to work through that process um and hopefully we can come up with something that makes it a lot easier all around for everyone um but this is an easy way for students to be able to find our oer courses um as they're registering um so we've been trying to get the word out to advisement admissions registration of records first-year experience um so that they can point this out to students as they're they're registering um we're working on putting together an informational flyer that will go into new student packets so that they will uh also know where to how to filter their search when they're looking for um oer courses and explaining the little um orange box with open educational resources courses have eliminated or reduced course material costs we just try to make it a simple explanation um and again you can advance the slide una to the next one it just shows as you click into the course it also shows at on each course um if they don't search via oer it'll still show up on on the general courses for all of them right at the bottom the highlighted in the orange um next slide una one of the great ways that we involve students i my one of my biggest ways of connecting to get the word out to students is kind of a the grassroots method um so we employed a student to create some text covers it was a visual and performing arts student who received credit for some of the coursework um putting together these she took the photographs not of the the um business 135 with the actual photographs but the other ones are photographs that she used she openly licensed all these um and this was a way to get out to um the course we had a professor that said hey we've got some opportunities for you to get some real live work and we're using open educational resources explaining what that means um student openly licensed all of these um so it was a great way to get some some word out generally to students who may not have heard about that otherwise um and we were actually able to use some of our funds to pay her to do some of these covers for the second half of the year she's graduated so we're now shopping for another student um and also using students through open pedagogy we have a couple of professors who have included students ones um an early british literature professor who created an or our text and is now using the students who are taking the course to um write introductions for the chapters of the text and she'll be teaching it again next fall with the introductions from those students included in there so again hopefully another way that students are getting the word out like hey i worked on this um on this great text with my professor um and again all those future plans that we all have that i'm sure we're all going to implement um i met last week with our marketing department and tried to get some ideas because i think a lot of the ideas that we have we're not quite sure how to do them um but they recommended we're planning to put together a video um marketing the degree program and have that run there they have a feature where we can have it running on facebook for people who are actually on our campuses so if they open up facebook that ad will pop up um and talk about our oer degree program um we also have lots of dual enrollment courses so trying to get the word out to those students who are who maybe coming on to um our campus eventually um to get the the word out that there are these opportunities for um less expensive materials for their courses um i've been trying to partner with student government i haven't been able to to meet them yet we have two campuses and just trying to connect with those both campuses has not happened um one of our other marketing ideas will be also if someone else talked about putting a printed banner we've got some central areas areas on campus where we can get that up um we also do within the library we have um usually uh at least twice a month we do pop-up libraries where we go out onto the campus somewhere and talk about library services and when we do that um i usually try to talk up um oer and what that means for students um we usually try to draw them over with something fun again we haven't tried cupcakes we might try that we usually do candy um we also have a 3d printer that is kind of mobile so when that comes with us it's great to just draw students over and then we start talking about whatever and you know we get the question about oh do you know what oer is have you seen every classes do you know anyone who's taking any of those classes and again we'll be we'll be trying to get some you know little chotchkeys together little stress balls pencils t-shirts are a great idea as well and i did with some of the funds we have from atd i purchased a button maker and students love using the button maker to make their own buttons so we printed up some oer themed buttons and let students print their own up and they're all excited to take them and wear them around campus some free advertising there and we're looking to put together an easy to navigate um lib guide with all of our courses listed so that students can just go to that and see them all listed not necessarily on the course schedule but in a way that they can just search they can even click in and see what the what the materials are um easily and hopefully put that out in some of our um our advertising materials so that is about what we've been up to here at um one row very exciting i love that to pop up haven't heard that before fun um and edie mentions that they're doing oer pop sockets what are those um edie it looks like lida knows what they are but um edie do you have a microphone or lida the round things you put on the back of the phone oh i got you i didn't know they were called pop sockets yes i think i have seniors kelsey i know i'm of a different generation my children have those they explained it to me it's so that you can watch videos on your phone that's very fun all right i want to move on to um charlie kashida who's professor at santa anna college and also the distance education and oer coordinator there charlie thank you una um i am so busy writing down all of these ideas because i really didn't think that we had any new ones so let me share with you what we're doing um i really love the idea of the cover of the book i'm going to talk with one of our art class instructors and see if they can help us so talking about marketing possibilities at santa anna what we did with some of our first atd funds was we created the t-shirts on the left the red t-shirts and these have kind of been a hit and they're identifiable for we gave them out when we held an oer summit and all of our faculty that use oer got a t-shirt and now we're going to try to include more funding so that the t-shirts that are black this is our new design and we're going to run with this really shortly but we wanted to promote the degree pathway not just oer courses but degree pathway and what we're going to try for is in the spring for open education week to have an event that's outside that we can invite our foundation members to and our idea you know like all of you is to try to have more involvement with administration and for us if we can get some of our foundation members behind oer then maybe they will remember us with their foundation funds and we can give them t-shirts and we were thinking of having students that use oer also you know t-shirts for the students and maybe they could talk about their experiences with oer so that's what we're planning to do with some new t-shirt funds and every Wednesday at our colleges they moved it from friday to because nobody's here on friday to wednesday to our like our asg spirit day or college spirit day so um when it has something that's sac on it you know san anna college then faculty might be more inclined to wear them and i think that we need to just remind them that you know on wednesday to wear their oer t-shirt not just you know another college you know logo shirt but that they could wear these too so i'll have to remember to do that thanks unna those are beautiful t-shirts i like the black one at the bottom the black one yeah you know i really like red and everybody said you know next time could you do black so i yeah i i maybe it'll get more more wear um this like everyone else this is our we use colleague and this is our um schedule of classes online we're going to move things around we've already requested this of it but they students can check mark if it's oer or zero textbook cost which is a california uh campaign here and that zero textbook cost logo is is the one that we've kind of adopted now for um i guess in our schedule and everything and as you saw in our t-shirt that we're kind of using for students to um know what we're talking about when we talk about low textbook cost in oer because they as much as instructors and at one of our first oer work group meetings we said nobody can relate to oer what should we do and and one instructor said you know we're teachers let's teach students what oer means and we've tried for so long but it's just really hard and students relate to cost and that's what catches their you know their ear first so i think we're probably going to go more with that other logo um when a student searches on oer or ctc in the comments um for that section this is the type of comment that they'll see um on oer if it's ctc if there's no additional textbook cost just so that they're really aware thank you and then um i don't know about all of you but we still have a printed schedule and it's also available in pdf um you know on our website and as we all know it's already it's already obsolete we have to create it so far ahead of time for print and not all faculty have decided on oer it is such a pain but we still have it and um so we use i just wanted to show you in the hard copy and then um we've got the little logo for oer next to the class and ctc so that they know and that other logo is for an online course or lecture they'll know the students can see visibly what the class is next to all the courses in our schedule and then what i did get was in the first few pages you know in yours you probably have something like um the classes in a freshman for freshman or weekend classes or online well we have a few also first pages of all oer courses in the very front so students that are looking only for oer they'll be able to see those listed all together in addition to the logo for you know biology or something like that so i'm i'm not sure we use a lot of methods like all of you and i wish i knew what what was successful in it and it could be you know as gene said that marketing rule of seven but this is one of the things that we're doing um and then we took up sri's really great suggestion so uh they had suggested to us for students that are currently enrolled in your oer course let them know that there are more so we are emailing students i don't know if this is working but we're emailing students during the semester that are enrolled in an oer course it's kind of you know our just template email and we're saying you know we hope you are enjoying uh you know and appreciating your oer materials and then right around registration time we send this out and we let them know again how to search for um oer courses for their enrollment for next semester um you know some students have emailed they reply back thank you um i don't know how much that's helping but it's easy enough to do and then i wanted to include this even though it the students might not see so on our we have an oer website uh at our college and then i have there that oer degree advisement uh link and on that oer degree advisement i have our what we call our plan a b and c our a degree plan or c h u plan b and then our i get c plan c for you know private new c schools and what i do every year is i highlight the courses that are offered in oer or zero textbook cost and i know that students can see this but i'll tell you it really works well for counselors and this is how i tell our faculty this as well this is how counselors view their advisements to students there's a lot of courses we have that aren't in any of our plans and um gosh you know that's unfortunate but when i talk with chairs or departments that are saying oh we're low enrollment we're not this we're not that i tell them you know what if you are if whatever course it is is in the plan then if it's oer that'll be one of the courses that the counselors will recognize and makes it stand out in terms of a course for advisement especially for students that really need it so um i think that this is one of our areas that seems to be working well and i go and talk to counseling every so often so that they're aware of this is that all i have luna i think you have one last one one more okay um we're really fortunate at sac to have um a nationally recognized college newspaper and our newspaper is the l don so uh every year they have lots of little reporters running around and and sometimes they can be a little intrusive and they're trying to dig and find dirt and things like that but uh generally speaking when they come to me and and ask if they can do a an article on oer um i happily make a lot of time for them and so usually once a year once every you know whatever year and a half there's an article in our school newspaper about oer and um they usually and i can usually give them some student quotes and i usually also refer them to a faculty member to interview and then we also have our our student posters as well so um and a nutshell that's kind of what we're doing you know we table as well and send the flyers out and all the freshmen you know incoming freshmen high school packets and and everything um you know when somebody mentioned tabling at welcome events i i don't know if they just need more tables but we get asked for oer to table it like almost every event which is really great but i'm going to have to bring cupcakes and much more candy but even for like earth day they'll think to ask um oer to table at earth day because you know they're we're not wasting paper and things like that so we get we get asked to table a lot but i think i'll have to have uh cupcakes to get more people to come to our table so that's about all we're doing at sag what sounds like plenty shirley thank you um i just wanted to uh run through a couple of really quick slides and then we'll just open this up for anyone who can stay and i'm sorry we ran a little over the hour um these are the these are conferences that are coming up this month i think you're probably aware of those and next month i wanted to mention that there's still a couple of things that are open for the spring if you're looking at presenting uh fran mentioned dream 2019 the 2020 uh the short presentations are available also the american association of community college is the annual convention this is a huge one it's in orlando florida uh april 13th through 16th and um the submission deadline is next uh wednesday it's halloween and fran and richard would like to say if anyone is submitting to that they'd love to work with you on that um and so please do do check in with them if you're planning to submit for that conference and it is a it's a great conference um i've i've been at several times um and there's um there's a few other events coming up as well if you look at the red sign and this also is available the url is up at the top there um if you want to check this out after the meeting um case studies i mentioned this at the beginning i'd like to mention it again we have 11 case studies from the 38 colleges at this point um and i know a lot of you are finishing up this uh actually like this month um and and deploying your degree we'd love to documented but we're going to need um you to work with us on the template um we would ask that you send that information to us no later than december 15th we prefer it december 1st so that we can finish up and get those posted either late december or early january so i'll send out a separate email but please please do share your success stories you're all doing such amazing work um uh we don't really have time to go over this i think many of you are on our list you know about our our webinars i did want want to mention because there sounds like there's a lot of interest on the open pedagogy we will have open pedagogy will be the topic of the november 14th cccoer webinar so please join us or or watch the recording our next um community meeting i think we're going to be moving that we originally had it scheduled for wednesday november 28th i think we're going to move it to the first week of december we'll be in touch over email i apologize for that um things are just kind of in flux right now and i think we're back to uh any open questions um and i i know i deferred the question that came up earlier um about what do you do when a class has been listed as an oer class or a zero textbook cost class in your in your class schedule online and then for whatever reason the teacher changes um could be a full-time instructor bumps somebody out and they are allowed to make the decision about what the materials are that are used and they select to not use an open uh material and that has been something that's been generating some discussion on a number of lists and i don't it's i've heard a couple of different um responses to that and i i don't want to i want to let other people um share if they would like to about that and you can turn on your microphone or whatever works and if people are too busy we can also save it for our meeting that will probably be be in the first week of december our next community meeting i'm getting the sense that folks may need to move on to the next activity of their day so i want to thank um all of you for coming but especially for our presenters i have two pages of notes i took on the amazing things that uh everyone suggested today and um i this is a wonderful resource um i hope that our community continue to work together on um the actual deployment and um of the oer degrees now that almost everyone is finished with their degree so thanks again and um this will be posted for your colleagues who didn't make it uh probably um by the end of today or tomorrow thank you michelle for allowing me to twist your arm and um i hope you all have a great rest of your day