 This is quite an illusion. The Egyptians for years fear that Israel might want to solve the problem of Gaza by relocating the Gazans to Sinai. And there were many publications about that and sometimes it was a compromise against certain presidents, also Mubarak, but also Mursi and the Sisi, all three of them, you know, that they planned something like this, some kind of deal in US, Israel and in Egypt. And the Egyptian regime is very clearly, we do not want that. But I think that at some point they would need to understand that they would need to open the crossing for humanitarian corridors. And Xenias Vitlova, before we continue, let me just update that as we speak, another round of rockets are being fired from the strip towards Southern Israel, Red Alert set off there as we speak. Ms. Vitlova, you live, you breathe the Middle East. This is your bread and butter. Who is missing in action? Well, I can tell you that all of the moderate Arab Sunni countries right now, they are watching with a great concern and some of them are condemning Hamas and some of them condemning Israel. But they do not understand right now that they need to be a regional action in order to also prevent the bloodshed, but also to change strategically the situation in Gaza because it will destabilize, continue to destabilize the region for years to come. I have to tell you that for now, again, you know, people just want for this to go away. Just as Israel did, I can tell you that I was sitting in the committee for foreign affairs and defense, and people just didn't want to be concerned with real solutions for Gaza Strip. Just saying that we will continue to manage it and it will be okay. It will not be okay, not on Israeli level. And we see it of course now, but also not on the regional level. It has to be dealt with in a common effort using all of this power of the Abraham Accords that were recently signed. And Ms. Vitlova, before we let you go, you know, we cannot not pinpoint Saudi Arabia because when the Americans are illustrating such a clear red line, illustrating the fresh version, if you will, of the axis of evil, the Saudis simply cannot stay on the fence. Well, yes, this is exactly the point that, you know, for years it seemed that, you know, the Palestinian issue was less of the concern to some Arab states. You know, there were grudges, there were troubles. You know, one president didn't want to talk to another president and, you know, it was so very clear. But just by pushing this problem away by just saying, well, you know, for now we will freeze, you know, the normalization efforts with Israel and we'll just stay away and see what happens next. This is not the time to do that. And by the way, I'm sure that, you know, the Israeli Saudi normalization will resume at some point, you know, when things will look a little bit more clear. But this is exactly not the point. We need normalizations to solve things together. You know, they need normalizations to stabilize our region together. That was the point, not only to do nice and to have direct flights here and there. Right, right, right. And the day after the Arab involvement in what will be happening with the Gaza Strip is imperative because it's not thinking outside of the box that is needed here, but rather a new box altogether to an extent. Ksenis Vitkova, senior non-resident fellow, the Atlantic Council. Thank you so much for this always a pleasure listening to your analysis. And we want to head down south at 24 News. Senior Defense Correspondent Jonathan Regev, we spoke with you at the beginning of the broadcast and since in the last few minutes, Red Alert in Israel South. Yes, Ali, and I'll move a bit. You can see right above us the interceptions, a quite a large barrage sent towards the city office. There are the neighboring communities, at least 10 interceptions above our heads. You can see what remains of them. This is up here in the air. And another thing we're hearing and seeing and hearing actually is the Israeli artillery pounding very hard towards Hamas. We're constantly hearing the sound of artillery, not only airstrikes, but artillery as well, a very strong presence all throughout the Gaza border. We're hearing that. We're seeing that as well as the still ongoing launches by Hamas. And as you mentioned, about five minutes ago, we had the Red Alert sirens, at least 10 interceptions above the city of Zirut. And Jonathan, many Israelis and many of our viewers are wondering, how come there's still so many rockets left? And how come they're still able to fire, to fire them considering the Israeli airstrikes there? That is really because there's two Gazas. There's overground Gaza and underground Gaza. Underground Gaza is a massive complex of tunnels, basically a city in itself, dedicated to terrorism. It's a city all about terrorism. This is where the Hamas leaders, for example, are hiding. They're letting the civilian populations in overground Gaza take all the heat. That's how they hide behind civilians. And down there, they also have massive amounts of rockets and just taking it up and launching and going back down. It's a matter of what? 30 seconds, one minute being exposed and going back down to underground Gaza. This is when I say that you cannot really beat, destroy Hamas from the air. This is what I mean. You have to go into Gaza and deal with this or else the underground Gaza will eventually remain. I-24 News, Senior Defense Correspondent Jonathan Regev. Stay safe, take care obviously. It's still an ongoing, active scene as we've put it in recent days, much more from Jonathan later on in our broadcast. And still with us here in the studio all the while, Colonel Jacques Nerilla. Dr. Nerilla, let's try to go back to the now. What are the objectives of an if and when ground operation in the Gaza Strip? Let's try to understand the expectations. The expectations are the following. We want to get rid to eradicate the presence, military and governmental presence of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. We have to be very aware that most Arab, moderate Arab states are looking very carefully at what's happening because the alliance between a Sunni organization, Hamas and Islamic Jihad with the Shiite organization, Hezbollah and Iran is very dangerous. The danger exists in Saudi Arabia. It exists in Jordan. It exists in Egypt. We've seen the Egyptians suffering from those jihadists inside Sinai and inside Egypt. And without saying it very clearly and loudly, they hope very truly that Israel finishes with that threat. Because it will send a message to any jihadist fundamentalist. Exactly. So they cannot control the masses and they are threatened by the masses. The regime could be shaking. And the addendum put by an officer from the IDF spokesman saying that advising the Palestinian to go into Sinai is a wrong thing to do. It's a wrong thing. It's a wrong advice. It's dragging Egypt into the wrong side of the war. Exactly. And the Egyptians are reacting very, very fast. They're accusing first of all of complicity with Israel concerning intelligence about the information that three days before that was conveyed to Israel. They're now angry at the fact that Israel is advising Palestinians to go into Sinai. And let's not forget the attack on a group of Israelis on tourists there. In Alexandria, yes. So the threat is there. It's present. And they wish very much. They hope very much that this disappears after the Israeli. I mean, they will condemn. They will do everything. But inside themselves, behind the corridor, they say it's good that Israel took care of this. It was more than time that Israel take care of this danger. Well, obviously, we cannot give a clear timetable because perhaps the timetable itself is just not yet clear. And yet the window for an aggressive operation that is needed will not stay open forever. Basically, we have time. Basically, we have time as long as the American administration is behind us, as long as the support of the U.S. and the Security Council exist, as long as Israel, as the U.S. can neutralize all those who are threatening in Europe, I think that we have time. And we are not talking of a day a week. We're talking of months. So it might take a long time. A ground operation. A ground operation. And then, as I said yesterday, I said the worst is in front of us. We are not behind it. We have to take care of the danger in the north because if this war ends and without Hisbalah being deterred, then we are to confront Hisbalah in another round. Yeah. Just a ticking bomb, so to speak. And even mentally, the state of Israel cannot live under a threat that is just a matter of time until it breaks out. And perhaps, as an end note, we're talking a lot about the international backing, international support. Maybe the pursuit of a proportional response should also be put in proportion. China is not with us. Russia is not that Africa couldn't care. Essentially, the Americans, the Europeans, and you know what? India can decide whatever it wants. All right. Yeah. None of those can give us a lesson in morality. Yeah. Yeah. That's for certain. Fighting for our country, fighting for our homeland. Dr. Jocknery, I thank you so very much for this. We'll be back with more later on in today. Thank you very much for watching. Officially in a state of war, this is a very active scene, and we need to get in the car as we're talking. Within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. Help us, we don't want to do it. We just don't know anything. Entire families, including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awakened the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. Continuing our rolling coverage, Israel at war. It's been exactly a week, a week that feels like eternity, a week that seems as if nothing has ever existed before. In the north, an infiltration attempt from the Lebanese border, four-year-old this morning, IDF surveillance identified a squad of Hezbollah-directed Palestinians trying to infiltrate Israeli territory. An IDF remotely piloted aircraft attacked the squad, eliminating a number of terrorists. It comes on the heels of an IDF attack on a Hezbollah target in Lebanon after intercepting drones in the Haifa area. In the south, barrages of rockets from the Gaza Strip persist direct hit on a home in Sderot that like the rest of the southern communities there, practically abandoned. The IDF continues to urge civilians of the northern Gaza Strip to evacuate Hamas, insisting that they stay there and be used as a human shield. The IDF confirming this morning it had killed a senior member of Hamas overnight, the head of Hamas' aerial forces, and in the West Bank, security forces arresting Hamas operatives. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while in the Israeli offense has yet to begin, US President Joe Biden saying Washington is working frantically to return Israeli-American civilians who are abducted, being held captive by Hamas' terrorists in the Strip as we speak. Before we map out the situation here in studio, we want to head to the ground at 24 news senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev in the city of Sderot. Jonathan, what can you tell us on the Israeli airstrikes in the Strip so far, this Hamas' head of aerial activity that has been eliminated overnight? Yes, constant ongoing activities in the Gaza Strip, and Israel said loud and clear that we're looking for every member of Hamas' military wing, political wing, it doesn't matter, and therefore anyone who's found is being killed, and very strong activity by the Air Force, and having said all that, a decisive victory eventually will not come from the air. Is this a first stage ahead of something bigger? We do not know, but we know that the Air Force is constantly, constantly targeting inside the Gaza Strip, not only the Air Force, we're hearing constant artillery being fired towards Gaza, a lot of fire thrown into the Gaza Strip. Is it in preparation for something bigger? Of course, we'll have to wait and see. Jonathan, and before we let you go, the situation on the Israeli side again as it seems that Israel is preparing for potentially a ground operation, the Israeli communities down south are empty when we're talking to civilians, of course. Pretty much. The Gaza border communities, those that took the worst hit on that terrible attack exactly a week ago, they were evacuated already on Saturday and Sunday. They're out in Ninsderot, the city where we are. Initially, there was no order to leave, but that has changed over the past few days, and almost all of the residents are practically gone. We're speaking of a city of some 25,000 people. Currently, there are a few hundreds left, nothing more than that. Yeah. I-24 News, a senior defense correspondent. Jonathan Regev, thank you very much for this, much more from Jonathan, of course, later on in the day. And joining us now in studio, Colonel Dr. Jacques Neria, former deputy head of assessments at the Israeli military intelligence. Thank you very much, Jacques Neria, for joining us. I would like us to begin about talking about those targeted killings of Hamas leaders, most recently this overnight elimination of Hamas's head of aerial operations. How significant is that? And perhaps who is next on the hit list? Well, the real leaders, Mohamed Dev and Sinwar, are hiding in bunkers in what we call the metro city of Gaza. They are underground and mostly protected from Israeli attacks at this moment in time. And so by what we have accomplished in the last few days is only, I would say, marginal leaders of Hamas, not the real, the core leaders of the military. Hamas has learned from the last encounter that Israel with the Palestinian jihad, that we can target very easily in their homes, in their apartments, even though it's the fourth floor in the special room. So they have taken this into consideration. They got to a clandestine activity. And of course, perhaps that you know that the senior leadership being seen sickening images of them in guarded, polished hotel rooms somewhere in the Gulf, watching what is happening, feeling it's just mind blowing. It's not- I think, I mean, look what's happening to the Palestinian people in Gaza. I mean, this is a tragedy for the Palestinian people, even though I don't concur and I don't identify myself with them, because they were the ones who applauded the fighters of Hamas coming back from Israel. They were the ones who threw flowers and sweets to and welcome them. At best, at best, if not part of the torture. And they were part of the system. They went there into the thousands, into the Israeli communities and just took everything what they could for them. And even them, they were part of the hostages that were taken into Gaza. You know, last night, before we continue, I've heard yet another testimony of one of the thousands of youngsters at this rave turned massacre who was able to move from place to place and hide. And at one point, he's saying there that one terrorist came, saw them hiding, and he asked them for money. Well, they're shot in the legs and he asked them for money just to understand- And they looted everything. They took cars, they took bicycles, they took everything. They could furniture. They took furniture from their places and backed into Gaza. Just the peanuts of what we've seen and speaking of. Some Hamas terrorists, those who have not been eliminated in Israeli territory are now in security forces, custody being interrogated. This is one of them. Let's take a listen to a tiny part of what they planned. As we speak, dozens over 150 Israelis are there going through what this vile terrorist illustrated. Very simply, and Dr. Nariah, in this respect, there seems to be an attempt now on behalf of Hamas to distance itself from the horrors that took place, blaming, again, very much befitting their world perception, blaming it on citizens, for abducting the Palestinian citizens, that is, for abducting, for raping, for torturing. Yeah, this is typical of that propaganda machine. They are well trained in that they are not responsible. They were the good fighters. They were the clean fighters, all those who came afterwards, all those who are the responsible. And then they say that they are responsible of the whole population in Gaza. They are the ones who are responsible of the street about the government of Gaza. And how could this happen? Well, when you don't care about human beings, it is a cross-border. But now you can see, I mean, the NBC has published the operational orders given to the black and white. You take over all the schools. You kill as many Jews as you can, even though there are babies, children, school kids, everything. Everything is allowed. No way out of it this time around. That's for certain. And the world is seeing the hope fully, yeah. That when we finish with Gaza and we just eradicate Hamas presence in Gaza, we haven't finished with Hamas. Hamas is still present in Lebanon, in Syria, in the West Bank, and in Turkey, the leaders are lavishly living there. So, I mean, Well, just like with ISIS, eliminated on the ground, but we still see. We will see what sort of relationship will grow after the war and what sort of impact will have the Hamas on the rest of the population that will stay within the borders of historical Palestine. Defining silence from so many Palestinian leaders. No words. All right, before we talk about the day after, we need to talk about the day of today. Let's head up north, Robert Swift, at 24 years correspondent, standing by there. Robert, the IDF just eliminating, foiling, an infiltration attempt. What can you tell us? That's correct. This is the latest in the skirmishes which are taking place along the border. This was an attempted infiltration by apparently three to four fighters from the southern Lebanon border. This took place on the far eastern end of the Israel's northern border near the Israeli community of Marguelot. This occurred just to the south of where a drone came down, where a drone was intercepted last night. Now, in this incident, in the recent infiltration incident, these fighters were spotted as they attempted to cross the border and the IDF said it eliminated them using one of its unmanned aerial vehicles. Now, there are some reports that these were Palestinian fighters from the Hamas factions that operate in the south of Lebanon, as opposed to Hezbollah fighters. But Hezbollah are very much involved behind the scenes with their fighters controlling the whole of this border. Now, if we look back to close to where we're located on the western end of Israel's northern border, there's been an update with regards to the drone incident that occurred last night. This took place about one o'clock with the IDF saying that it was three drones that were intercepted last night over the close to Haifa and over communities to the east of Haifa. Israeli jets were scrambled in this incident, but it was air defense systems from the ground which took out the drones. One of them, as it was destroyed, shrapnel fell on Israeli community underneath, causing some damage but no casualties. Robert Swift up north, thank you very much for this. And still with us here in the studio, retired Colonel Dr. Jacques Neria. Briefly, Dr. Neria, before we say hello to Ksenia Svetlova to join our conversation, when we're talking about the northern border, what will be considered more than just a provocation? Well, you can see very clearly the places where the attacks are being held. You know, it's Metula, Miss Gabbam, Mergar Yots, it's what we call the Galilee finger. And the aim is Kiryatshmone. The aim is definitely Kiryatshmone, a penetration into Kiryatshmone on the one hand. The biggest city in the north. The biggest city in the north. And if you look on the western side of the Galilee, we see two places, Hanita and Hanita specifically, meaning that this is the axis they want to penetrate in order to get to Neria. Well, Dr. Neria, we know that from the Gaza Strip through Lebanon, all roads lead to Tehran. Well, let's take a listen today, Iranian Foreign Minister. During the meetings I held this morning with Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader, and a number of the Palestinian resistance in Beirut, I knew that the resistance put in front of it all possible scenarios and they have high readiness and spirits. We want to say hello now to senior non-resident fellow, the Atlantic Council. Xenia Svetlova. Ms. Svetlova, thank you so very much for joining us this morning. I want us to begin down south because there are just reports that Egypt is blocking the Rafa crossing to avoid the sway of Ghazan residents that might cross to its border and that also coincides with the IDF reporting that despite Hamas's pleas, as if they're asking politely, urging the civilians in the northern part of the Gaza Strip to stay there as human shields. Despite that, there is an apparent movement of many Ghazan citizens, civilians to the south. So Egypt, what is the current position now? Because it seems a bit vague. What are the Egyptian interests at this point in time? Well, the Egyptians actually would like to see all of this go away. For years the travels in Gaza Strip also destabilized their own security and so on. So for them, it's troubles. And I think that for now they do not even understand what kind of scale these events will be. It didn't even start. This is what we hear from IDF and this is quite clear that we are going into a phase that if they think that barricades that they created around Rafa crossing will help against hundreds of thousands that might want to get out of Gaza, as anybody of us would want to do in this moment. This is quite an illusion. The Egyptians years fear that Israel might want to solve the problem of Gaza by relocating the Ghazans to Sinai. And there were many publications about that and sometimes it was a compromise against certain presidents, also Mubarak, but also Mursi and the Sisi, all three of them that they planned something like this, some kind of deal in US, Israel and in Egypt. And the Egyptian regime is very clearly, we do not want that. But I think that at some point they would need to understand that they would need to open the crossing for humanitarian corridors. And Xenia Svitlova, before we continue, let me just update that as we speak, another round of rockets are being fired from the strip towards Southern Israel Red Alert set off there as we speak. Ms. Svitlova, you live, you breathe the Middle East. This is your bread and butter. Who is missing in action? Well, I can tell you that all of the moderate Arab Sunni countries right now, they are watching with a great concern and some of them are condemning Hamas and some of them condemning Israel. But they do not understand right now that they need to be original action in order to also prevent the bloodshed, but also to change strategically the situation in Gaza, because it will destabilize, continue to destabilize the region for years to come. I have to tell you that for now, again, people just want for this to go away. Just as Israel did, I can tell you that I was sitting in the committee for foreign affairs and defense and people just didn't want to be concerned with real solutions for Gaza Street. Just saying that we will continue to manage it and it will be okay. It will not be okay, not on Israeli level. And we see it of course now, but also not on the regional level. It has to be dealt with in a common effort using all of this power of the Abraham Accords that were recently signed. Ms. Svitlova, before we let you go, we cannot not pinpoint Saudi Arabia because when the Americans are illustrating such a clear red line, illustrating the fresh version, if you will, of the axis of evil, the Saudis simply cannot stay on the fence. Well, yes, this is exactly the point that for years it seemed that the Palestinian issue was less of the concern to some Arab states. They were grudges, they were troubles. One president didn't want to talk to another president and it was so very clear. But just by pushing this problem away, by just saying, well, for now we will freeze the normalization efforts with Israel and we'll just stay away and see what happens next. This is not the time to do that. And by the way, I'm sure that the Israelis out in normalization will resume at some point when things will look a little bit more clear. But this is exactly not the point. We need normalizations to solve things together. They need normalizations to stabilize our region together. That was the point, not only to do nice and to have direct flights here and there. And the day after, the Arab involvement in what will be happening with the Gaza Strip is imperative because it's not thinking outside of the box that is needed here, but rather a new box altogether to an extent. Xenis Vitlova, senior non-resident fellow of the Atlantic Council, thank you so much for this always a pleasure listening to your analysis. And we want to head down south at 24 News. Senior Defense Correspondent Jonathan Regev, we spoke with you at the beginning of the broadcast and since in the last few minutes, Red Alert in Israel South. Yes, Ellie, and I'll move a bit. You can see right above us the interceptions, a quite a large barrage sent towards the city office. They wrote a neighboring communities, at least 10 interceptions above our heads. You can see what remains of them. This is up here in the air. And another thing we're hearing and seeing and hearing actually is the Israeli artillery pounding very hard towards Hamas. We're constantly hearing the sound of artillery, not only airstrikes, but artillery as well. A very strong presence all throughout the Gaza border. We're hearing that. We're seeing that as well as the still ongoing launches by Hamas. And as you mentioned, about five minutes ago, we had the Red Alert sirens, at least 10 interceptions above the city of Zirut. And Jonathan, many Israelis and many of our viewers are wondering, how come there's still so many rockets left? And how come they're still able to fire, to fire them considering the Israeli airstrikes there? That is really because there's two Gaza. There's overground Gaza and underground Gaza. Underground Gaza is a massive complex of tunnels, basically a city in itself dedicated to terrorism. It's a city all about terrorism. This is where the Hamas leaders, for example, are hiding. They're letting that the civilian populations in overground Gaza take all the heat. That's how they hide behind civilians. And down there, they also have massive amounts of rockets and just taking it up and launching and going back down. It's a matter of what, 30 seconds, one minute being exposed and going back down to underground Gaza. This is the, when I say that you cannot really beat, destroy Hamas from the air, this is what I mean. You have to go into Gaza and deal with this or else the underground Gaza will eventually remain. I-24 News, a senior defense correspondent, Jonathan Reagiv. Stay safe. Take care, obviously. It's still an ongoing, active scene as we've put it in recent days, much more from Jonathan later on in our broadcast. And still with us here in the studio, Al Diwala, Colonel Jacques Neria. Dr. Neria, let's try to go back to the now. What are the objectives of an if-and-when ground operation in the Gaza Strip? Let's try to understand the expectations. The expectations are the following. We want to get rid, to eradicate the presence, military and governmental presence of Hamas in the Gaza Strip. We have to be very aware that most Arab, moderate Arab states are looking very carefully at what's happening because the alliance between a Sunni organization, Hamas and Islamic Jihad with the Shiite organization, Hezbollah and Iran is very dangerous. The danger exists in Saudi Arabia. It exists in Jordan. It exists in Egypt. We've seen the Egyptians suffering from those jihadists inside Sinai and inside Egypt. And without saying it very clearly and loudly, they hope very, very truly that Israel finishes with that threat. Because it will send a message to any jihadi fundamentalist. Exactly. So they cannot control the masses and they are threatened by the masses. The regime could be shaking. And the addendum put by an officer from the IDF spokesman saying that advising the Palestinian to go into Sinai is a wrong thing to do. It's a wrong thing. It's a wrong advice. Dragging Egypt into the wrong side of the war. Exactly. And the Egyptians are reacting very, very fast. They're accusing, first of all, of complicity with Israel concerning intelligence about the information that three days before that was conveyed to Israel. They're now angry at the fact that Israel is advising Palestinians to go into Sinai. And let's not forget the attack on a group of Israelis on tourists there. In Alexandria, yes. So the threat is dead. It's present. And they wish very much. They hope very much that this disappears after the Israeli. I mean, they will condemn. They will do everything. But inside themselves, behind the corridor, they say it's good that Israel took care of this. It was more than time that Israel take care of this danger. Well, obviously, we cannot give a clear timetable because perhaps the timetable itself is just not yet clear. And yet the window for an aggressive operation that is needed will not stay open forever. Basically, we have time. Basically, we have time as long as the American administration is behind us, as long as the support of the U.S. and the Security Council exist. As long as Israel, as the U.S. can neutralize all those who are threatening in Europe, I think that we have time. And we are not talking of a day a week. We're talking of months. So it might take a long time. A ground operation. A ground operation. And then, as I said yesterday, I said the worst is in front of us. We are not behind it. We have to take care of the danger in the North because if this war ends and without Hisbalah being deterred, then we are to confront Hisbalah in another round. Yeah, just a ticking bomb, so to speak. And even mentally, the state of Israel cannot live under a threat that is just a matter of time until it breaks out. And perhaps as an end note, we're talking a lot about the international, back international support. Maybe the pursuit of a proportional response should also be put in proportion. China is not with us. Russia is not at it. Africa couldn't care. It's essentially the Americans, the Europeans. And you know what? India can decide whatever it wants. All right, yeah. None of those can give us less of a morality. Yeah, yeah. That's for certain. Fighting for our country, fighting for our homeland. Dr. Jocknery, I thank you so very much for this. We'll be back with more later on in the day. Thank you very much for watching. Officially in a state of war, this is a very active scene, and we need to get in the car as we're talking. Within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. We just don't know anything. Entire families, including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. Because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure, the weight of the water above your head, we're able to save energy. Come to the special broadcast here on I-24 News as we continue a rolling coverage. Israeli toward day eight. Yes, it's been exactly a week since the world, as we know it, ceased to exist. In the north, an infiltration attempt from the Lebanese border foiled IDF surveillance, identifying a squad of Hezbollah directed Palestinians trying to infiltrate Israeli territory and IDF remotely piloted aircraft, attacking the squad, eliminating a number of terrorists. It comes on the heels of an IDF attack on a Hezbollah target in Lebanon overnight after intercepting drones that reached the Haifa area. In the south, barrages of rockets from the Gaza Strip persist, direct hit on our home and the beaten shattered city of Sderot that like the rest of southern communities is practically abandoned. The IDF continues to hurt civilians of the northern part of the Gaza Strip to evacuate Hamas, insisting that they stay and be used as a human shield. Very typical of Hamas' state of mind when it comes to human lives. The IDF confirming this morning it had killed a senior member of Hamas overnight, the head of Hamas' aerial forces in the West Bank. Security forces arresting Hamas operatives, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowing the Israeli offense has yet to begin US President Joe Biden saying Washington is working frantically to return Israeli-American civilians who are as we speak alongside many, many others, about 150 Israelis are abducted, being held captive by Hamas terrorists in the Strip. Before we map out the situation here in studio we want to head up north Robert Swift, I-24 News correspondent, standing by there with the rest of the I-24 News team, Robert, disinfiltration attempt foiled and yet an alarming incident. Is that the way to put it? It is indeed. This is one of many of the skirmishes that have taken place here in recent days. There's been a slight uptick in the number of incidents in the last 24 hours with this being just one of several. Now the IDF has said that it is conducted to UAV strikes on Hezbollah and Palestinian forces operating along the northern Israeli border. The second of which is the one that you refer to which took place on the far eastern side of Israel's northern border when a squad of around three to four Palestinian operatives attempted to cross the border and these were hit by the UAV as mentioned and this is an incident that took place just to the south about a mile south of where a drone that was launched across the border and intercepted by Israeli air defence came down and now moving to the western side of the northern Israeli border for the second incident where due to an infiltration of around three drones in the early hours of last night, drones that were intercepted again by Israeli air defences and again in this case the IDF has retaliated by striking Hezbollah forces in the south of Lebanon. I24 News correspondent Robert Swift up north thank you very much for this much more from Robert later on in the day of course and from the north we're heading south I24 News senior defence correspondent Jonathan Regev standing by there Jonathan no quiet in the south not on the Israeli border and yes not on the Gaza side of the border as it seems that the evacuation orders delivered by the IDF to Gaza residents are making an impact despite Hamas urging them to stay. Making an impact yes but if we expect the entire population of the city of Gaza of the northern Gaza strip to head south that will not happen first Hamas is preventing both physically on the ground and also psychologically telling people not to leave that is having an effect but Israel is insisting you have a few more hours to leave we will create some safe corridors up until this evening and after that the northern Gaza border will be site of war it's we know that Hamas is using civilians as a human shield it is not it's not very surprising and just as we spoke earlier the population above the ground is the one that is taking all of the hits the Hamas leadership is at least currently sitting safely in the underground Gaza they're not hurt and believe me they have fuel they have water the electricity they have electricity it's the population above the ground which is missing all of them yeah resting underground at this point in time Jonathan obviously there there couldn't be a clear timetable for not an if perhaps but a when ground operation but what can you tell us from the Israeli premier's statement last night it seems that this is the way we're we're heading towards it seems so not so much from from the the speech of prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu which I feel said said nothing in in his speech on Friday night but just by by the the the the preparation on on the ground Israel has 360 000 reservists on on the ground and the forces are ready for any decision but the decision has to be taken right decisions something Israeli leaders seems to be dreading we're making i-24 news as senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev down south thank you very much for this Jonathan Regev of course will continue to update us throughout the day joining us now in studio Mr. Olesikhar ahead of research at the IDSF Abitchonnistim thank you very much Mr. Olesikhar for joining us I would like to begin with the dismantling what becomes a catchphrase when we're talking about the current state of affairs in this war this this pursuit or desire to have or to see a proportional reaction right I think the cruelty of Palestinian terrorism is now at full display for the international community they have been telling us or rather describing the situation for us all these years rather than listening I think that when they try to rationalize Palestinian terrorism I think the international community often fell into the illegal occupation as they said and we only heard this week the United Nations Human Rights Council saying that the root cause of the conflict is illegal occupation rather than anti-semitic barbarism committed by Hamas terrorists and I think more and more people now it's beginning to sink in more and more around the world for people that the situation between Israelis and Palestinians has nothing to do with territory because Israel withdrew from Gaza I remind you to the 67 lines to the last settler to the last soldier to the last grave and still the Hamas spokesperson Abu Abayda says we want to free our homeland and they send a thousand people to murder a 1,300 Israelis and abduct civilians so I think that it is becoming clear now to everyone that Israel as President Biden said should really take a swift decisive and overwhelming action to defend itself now about proportionality I think there's a great confusion about international law when they when it says proportionality it does not mean that the number of killed people should be proportionate to the number of killed Israelis that means that the target should be proportionate to the threat it poses so if you have a handgun someone with a handgun in a building and the building contains 30 families and you destroy the building from the air that is prohibited of course and the IDF has never done that it is strictly prohibited but if it has a stock excuse me if it has a stockpile of missiles threatening to murder dozens of Israeli families it becomes a legitimate military target so if a Hamas senior official who targets this attack who slain 1,300 Israelis is hiding behind his family it becomes a legitimate military target I remind you that proportionate damage has nothing to do with international law in world war two you had what 7 million Germans dead as opposed to 450,000 Americans dead does that infer that the Americans are wrong and the Germans are right it has nothing to do with proportionality in terms of numbers only in terms of targets and you know what even in terms of numbers what would the international community feel good to see exact number of beheaded babies in the gunship I doubt that this discourse is leading anywhere and I do not recall that the term proportionality was applicable in the aftermath of 9-11 or when the ISIS threat was was on the table and in this respect I would like us or to take a listen now to what one of Hamas's terrorists who were captured in this week's slaughter what he had to say to to the security forces so not a surprise or but in a cowardly act Hamas Hamas's leadership or propaganda machine or you name it is trying to distance itself right from the cruelty we've seen on the ground saying that and I it wasn't as it was the civilians who who committed those crimes and yet we're seeing black and white evidence that was the modus operandi we were hearing those testimonies and no way to run away from that I definitely and I think we've seen that you know plain and simple broad daylight we were raping the women abducting the babies murdering the young men and women and we have seen civilians targeted in the most brutal way on the most flagrant violation of any international law any human right but they have disregarded disdain for human rights for decades I believe that only nowadays becoming clear for the international community who are dealing with here I remind you that you need to know that in disrespect even us Israelis right gave the benefit of the doubt even we knowing the threat knowing the enemy did not comprehend nor perceive that that this right would happen I think we've seen you know shooting attacks for decades we've seen line 18 in disengulf we've seen suicide attacks rocket launches but I believe that this kind of scenario while you know in generally you know prepared for by the idea of folders and invasion of Hamas terrorist ground invasion I remind you that Nukhba elite squads of Hamas were known for for several years now as well as the red one force of Hezbollah but I think now it is becoming clear that Hamas did not attempt to free the blockade over Gaza to create a seaport to open the you know the the land checkpoints with Israel and Egypt the only goal is to slain Jews and I think we heard it from Yahya Sinwar last time around when they had protests on the fence with Gaza that we are going to invade Israel in order to rip the hearts of the Jews that his words and I I think it can't become any clearer than that and what we've heard this week from the German Chancellor Schultz from French President Macron from US President Biden UK Prime Minister we've we've heard them all saying loud and clear the Italian Prime Minister we've heard them all saying loud and clear that they are many of them will cut aid to Palestinians until reviewed they are determined to allow Israel to defend itself and we hear no discussion whatsoever about proportionality or about any any shred of doubt as to Israel's right because they understand like President Biden said this is a war on the west not a war on Israel specifically and right now we see might be first but not the last exactly their frontline of defense but they're not the last and I think what we see this week in BDS protests that were such a common sight in Europe for decades now pro-Palestinian protests with Palestine flags saying not saying you know free Palestine remove the blockade they say gas the Jews they say gas the Jews they say the score is destroy Israel they you know just take pride they show their cell phones with these horror videos and say look that's what we did to you so this is why France Germany other countries began to ban these pro-Palestinian protests and they are now you know I wish it didn't come with such a heavy toll but they now realize who we're dealing with together the entire West together not just out of love and support to Israel but also a deep understanding that again we might be first right you guys are next and in this respect before we move perhaps international action or like there are vis-a-vis the architects of what we're seeing now I do want to go back to the domestic front here in Israel because we've seen overnight or several arrests in the West Bank of of Hamas operatives we know that the West Bank has been a terrorism hotbed for months for years and not less alarming perhaps even more so specific cases not the general public but cases of Arab Israelis including medical personnel nurses and stuff voicing support in Hamas and voicing support that perhaps an understatement taking off duty of course but but what could be a plan of action well I think we gotta be careful not to you know inflame an internal front here as well and I think seeing you know even for you know the most pro-Palestinian among Israeli Arabs which are not the majority I think they are as abhorrent as most people are at this this difficult moment we have seen Israel hesitant for decades to take bold action the operation in Jenin I remind you housing garden was only the result of months of pressure on the part of Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria telling them we have shooting attacks stone throwing attacks Molotov cocktail attacks every single day we are afraid to leave our communities because the roads have become you know a death trap but I think right now Israel that has been hesitant to take action has no choice but to act on catastrophe as I said because it is the situation was imposed on it I only wish we didn't have to come to this moment to realize that but now I think all bets are off nothing will go back this to be the same as it was and I think even if the Israeli leadership will be hesitant I think the Israeli public would never let it to we gotta take on terrorist infrastructure around Judea and Samaria and arrest those who incite for terrorism and we gotta think through what Israel has been preserving for decades which is the Palestinian Authority what the international community has been contributing to if you see their textbooks if you see the incitement this is all beginning with education youngsters who go and slaughter families do not go there without the background of 20 years of incitement against Jews and Israelis and I think this is what you have to target the Palestinian Authority as well in terms of their incitement in terms of funds go to terrorism what they call pay for slay all the logos and textbooks and and caricatures that are typical to the Nazi regime I'm not sure what was more deafening the silence in the first few days or the weak statements that came out of Ramallah once they did we will put a stop right here to talk about another pressing issue because as we speak still dozens about 150 Israelis are being held captive hostage kidnapped by Hamas terrorists in the Gaza Strip so we want to turn now to perhaps the only man who can give us some clue of what does an operation to release them might look like a founder of a Magnus International search and rescue Mr. Helik Magnus thank you very much Mr. Magnus for speaking with us this morning the idea of confirming there was some ground activity looking for hostages in the strip that is bodies were found try to help us understand to explain if you can what this type of an operation looks like on the ground we are we are functioning bodies that we are not functioning in Israel but unfortunately in those days a lot of requests are filed to us and we are trying to assist especially the families but not to operate on ground so not to get mixed not to stand in the way of the people who are doing the hard jobs we are not functioning in Israel we are functioning for Israel is a board which are many of them are now trying to get home and many of them also need some support and we got a lot of mental cases concerning the situation and we are doing whatever we can and know to provide the help to the families and to the casualties I'm living in Dekel Dekel it's a settlement in Moshev in the Petrachalov it's funny to say peace peace and we are neighbors to the Arabs in the Gaza Strip we are neighbors to a community of terrorists who are supported by their by the public opinion and supported by the people living there there is no terrorist organization surviving that long without support of the community the community is supporting the terrorist organization they are participating they are invading they are running after the the terrorists to to rob the houses they did amazing things which are not humankind they are not even humankind behavior that people people say that there are enemies they are not enemies enemies are very nice they are unhuman race and they brought us to a point which is which is terrible we would like to live in peace with them now we they forced us to kill them and unfortunately we have to do we have to do it very well just that well that in the next 50 years they wouldn't dare even to dream to try with us to try to to to do things with us we have to send them away there is a solution there is a solution no no Sinai never belonged to Egypt they got it from the British Empire who ruled the area by Amanda at 47 they never had the Sinai before the north of Sinai should be open to the Palestinians they should be brought there they get the country they can have enough of water with a tunnel from the Nile the Nile is dropping 150 million liters of water of water every year in the Mediterranean instead of this with the tunnel of 15 meter by all north Sinai will become a garden and the beaches can be used as tourist sites and they are staying in a position very well between Africa and Asia Asia on the main road yeah so they can they can have a good future but Egypt should give them the north of Sinai Egypt should participate the effort to solve this situation they cannot stay neighbors of us who wants neighbors who are slaughtering babies and burning and raping who wants them as their neighbors let me see who wants them as a neighbor then become in years I am telling anybody who would like to listen that the fences we are behind three fences here three fences no no fences are not protected hatred is bringing all all fences down too easily unfortunately mr. Magnus very briefly if you can there is a chance that some of those who are currently held captive by Hamas in the Gaza Strip are watching who knows how their twisted mind is working the terrorists that is of course can you give some guidelines to how to survive to go through these sorts of situations listen we handled terror terror events in the past we handle terror events in the past in let's say in the name of some governments around the world and then we conducted negotiation with El Qaeda or other kinds of terror organization this is very difficult we are in a war and everybody should remember that we are in a war everybody can be a become a casualty of war we should finish this war without any negotiation with those terrorists any negotiation we should tell them exactly what's going to happen with them if they will touch one of those hostages that they that they took from Israel they should be aware about it it should be concerned about it and she should know that they will pay the price if they will touch them this is not a game it's a war in a war like a war we have to win it we have to win it it will be it will we will for course but we will pay also very hard part we paid already and and the hostages and the kidnapping people they will stay beside and wait that we will finish the war we finish the war we will release them welcome to get them Helik Magnus founder of Magnus international search and rescue thank you very much sir I would I would like just to say one sentence more my neighbor my dear neighbor my friend the names that are now over the pages they are not named they are my my friends my relatives here my neighbors my my dear neighbor Tion Levy who went to bring back his workers to Miltachin because the war started he never came back because on the junction of Miltachin on his way back he faced those terrorists they shot him and killed him and murdered him and unfortunately someday we will have to bury him so we will remember everybody got his friend here nobody is clean from the from the terror that created do you hear the the shootings around around yeah you're down south and then it is still all happening as we speak the thunder of the cannons they are fighting my dog and and the noise of that to be here every few seconds thunder of bombing and shelling and and cannons and missiles mr. Magnus stay safe stay strong as you've said not numbers 1,300 lives already taken and so many others shattered to the bone thank you very much mr. Magnus for this stay strong stay resilient we will overcome thank you very much we'll stay still yes we will always the head of research at the IDSF still with us here your your final remarks sir before we wrap up this this broadcast hostages more of an asset or a burden for Hamas at this point in time and should we care really I think it's very cynical to think about it but yes they are an asset for Hamas now because I think hadn't they abducted so many of our fellow citizens so many by the way citizens of foreign countries that are now whose whose leaders are now concerned and are deeply involved I think it it's you know it changes the whole it's a whole different ballgame for Israel vis-a-vis the Gaza Strip if the if you had if you didn't have abducted people there now we gotta be first we gotta be careful and second we gotta we have a first priority in mind not just to change the face of the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Netanyahu said not just to create a whole new Middle East but also but first and foremost to release those people who are suffering in in hostage right now I think the the next few steps Israel takes the level of boldness of action that Israel takes will radiate around the region as per Saudi Arabia and other countries who are considering you know normalizing relations with Israel Palestinians arranged in Samaria and some groups among Arab Israelis who are maybe considering of you know raising their heads the Lebanon the Hezbollah in Lebanon who is right now you know testing the waters harassing IDF soldiers on the front line but doesn't open full-fledged war and the Syrian president all of these actors are watching what Israel is doing right now and we gotta bear that in mind yes indeed always the head of research at the IDSF thank you very much thank you for this we are concluding this broadcast but we will be more back with more other later on thank you for watching stay strong stay resilient over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing we bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what Hamas did follow us as Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north join i24 news for the real story of what's going on this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity welcome to the special broadcast here on i24 news as we continue our rolling coverage israel at war day eight yes it's been exactly a week since the world as we know it ceased to exist in the north an infiltration attempt from the lebanese border foiled rdf surveillance identifying a squad of hezbollah directed palestinians trying to infiltrate israeli territory and idf remotely piloted aircraft attacking the squad eliminating a number of terrorists it comes on the heels of an idf attack on a hezbollah target in lebanon overnight after intercepting drones that reached the haifa area in the south barrages of rockets from the gallows trip persists direct hit on the home and the beaten shattered city of stele that like the rest of southern communities is practically abandoned the idf continues to hurt civilians of the northern part of the gallows trip to evacuate hamas insisting that they stay and be used as a human shield very typical of hamas's state of mind when it comes to human lives the idf confirming this morning it had killed a senior member of hamas overnight the head of hamas's aerial forces in the west bank security forces arresting hamas operatives israeli prime minister benjamin etenio vowing the israeli offense has yet to begin us president joe biden saying washington is working frantically to return israeli american civilians who are as we speak alongside many many others about 150 israelis are abducted being held captive by hamas terrorists in this trip before we map out the situation here in studio we want to head up north robert swift at 24 news correspondent standing by there with the rest of the 24 news team robert disinfiltration attempt um foiled and yet an alarming uh incident is that the way uh to put it it is indeed this is one of many of the skirmishes that have taken place here in recent days there's been a slight uptick in the number of incidents in the last 24 hours with this being just one of several now the idf has said that it is conducted two uav strikes uh on hezbollah and palestinian forces operating along the northern israeli border uh the the second of which is the one that you refer to um which took place on the far eastern side of israel's northern border when a squad of around three to four palestinian operatives attempted to cross the border and these were hit by the uav as mentioned and this is an incident that took place just to the south about a mile south of where a drone that was launched across the border and intercepted by israeli air defense came down and now moving to the western side of the northern israeli border for the second incident where due to an infiltration of around three drones in the early hours of last night um drones that were intercepted again by israeli air defenses and again in this case the idf has retaliated by striking hezbollah forces in the south of lebanon i24 news correspondent robert swift up north thank you very much for this much more from robert later on in the day of course and from the north we're heading south i24 news senior defense correspondent jonathan reggae of standing by their jonathan um no quiet in the south not on the israeli border and yes not on the um on on the gaza side of the border as it seems that the evacuation orders by delivered by the idf to gaza residents are are are making an impact despite hamas urging them to stay making an impact yes but if we expect the entire population of the city of gaza of the northern gaza strip to head south that will not happen first hamas is is preventing both physically on the ground and also psychologically telling people not to leave that is having an effect but israel is insisting you have a few more hours to leave we will create some safe corridors up until this evening and after that the northern gaza border will be site of war it's we know that hamas is using civilians as a human shield it is not it's not very surprising and just as we spoke earlier the population above the ground is the one that is taking all of the hits the hamas leadership is at least currently sitting safely in the underground gaza they're not hurt and believe me they have fuel they have water the electricity they have electricity it's the population above the ground which is missing all of them yeah um resting underground at this point uh in time uh jonathan obviously there there couldn't be a clear timetable for uh not an if perhaps but a when ground operation uh but what can you tell us from the israeli premiered the statement last night it seems that this is the way we're we're heading towards it seems so not so much from from the the speech of prime minister benjamin ethania which i feel said said nothing in in his speech on friday night but just by by the the the the preparation on on the ground israel has 360 000 reservists on on the ground and the forces are ready for any decision but the decision has to be taken right uh decisions um something uh israeli leaders seems to be dreading uh we're making uh i-24 news as senior defense correspondent jonathan reggae of uh down south thank you very much for this jonathan reggae of course will continue to update us throughout the day uh joining us now in studio mr oris akhara head of research at the id s f habith honnist team thank you very much mr is akhara for joining us um i would like to begin with dismantling um uh what becomes a catch phrase when we're talking about um the current state of affairs uh um in this war this this pursuit or desire to have or to see a proportional reaction right i think the cruelty of palestinian terrorism is now at full display for the international community um they have been telling us or rather describing the situation for us all these years rather than listening i think that when they try to uh rationalize palestinian terrorism i think the international community often fell into uh the illegal occupation as they said and we only heard this week the united nations human rights council saying that the root cause of the conflict is illegal occupation rather than anti-semitic barbarism committed by hamas terrorists and i think more and more people now it's beginning to sink in more and more around the world for people that the situation between israel's and palestinians has nothing to do with territory because israel withdrew from gaza i remind you to the 67 lines to the last settler to the last soldier to the last grave and still the hamas spokesperson abu abayda says we want to free our homeland and they send a thousand people to murder a 1300 israelis and abduct civilians so i think that it is becoming clear now to everyone that israel as president biden said should really take a swift decisive and overwhelming action to defend itself now about proportionality i think there's a big confusion about international law uh when they when it says proportionality it does not mean that the number of killed people should be proportionate to the number of killed israelis that means that the target should be proportionate to the threat it poses so if you have a handgun someone with a handgun in a building and the building contains 30 families and you destroy the building from the air that is prohibited of course and the idea has never done that it is strictly prohibited but if it has a excuse me if it has a stockpile of missiles threatening to murder dozens of israeli families it becomes a legitimate military target so if a hamas senior official who targets this attack who slain 1300 israelis is hiding behind his family it becomes a legitimate military target i remind you that proportionate damage has nothing to do with international law in world war two you had what seven million germans dead as opposed to 450 000 americans dead does that infer that the americans are wrong and the germans are right it has nothing to do with proportionality in terms of numbers only in terms of targets and you know what even in terms of numbers what would the international community feel good to see exact number of beheaded babies in the government ship i doubt that this discourse is leading anywhere and i do not recall that the term proportionality was applicable in the aftermath of 9 11 or when the isis threat was um was on the table um and in this respect i would like us or to take a listen now to what one of hamas is a terrorist who were captured in this week's um slaughter what he had to say to um to the security forces so look you can see the Not a surprise or but in a cowardly act Hamas, Hamas's leadership or propaganda machine or you name it, is trying to distance itself from the cruelty we've seen on the ground saying no, no, no. It wasn't us. It was the civilians who committed those crimes. And yet we're seeing black and white evidence that was the modus operandi. So we're hearing those testimonies and no way to run away from that. Definitely. And I think we've seen that, you know, plain and simple in broad daylight. We were raping the women, abducting the babies, murdering the young men and women. And we have seen civilians targeted in the most brutal way on the most flagrant violation of any international law, any human right. But they have disregarded disdain for human rights for decades. I believe that only nowadays becoming clear for the international community who are dealing with here. But you need to know that in disrespect, even us Israelis gave the benefit of the doubt. Even we, knowing the threat, knowing the enemy did not comprehend or perceive that this would happen. I think we've seen shooting attacks for decades. We've seen line 18 in disenguff. We've seen suicide attacks, rocket launches. But I believe that this kind of scenario, while, you know, in generally, you know, prepared for by the idea of folders and invasion of Hamas terrorists, ground invasion. I remind you that Nukhba elite squads of Hamas were known for several years now, as well as the red one force of Hezbollah. But I think now it is becoming clear that Hamas did not attempt to free the blockade over Gaza to create a seaport to open the, you know, the land checkpoints with Israel and Egypt. The only goal is to slain Jews. And I think we heard it from Yahya Sinwar last time around when they had protests on the fence with Gaza, that we are going to invade Israel in order to rip the hearts off the Jews, his words. And I think it can't become any clearer than that. And what we've heard this week from the German Chancellor Schultz, from French President Macron, from U.S. President Biden, U.K. Prime Minister, we've heard them all saying loud and clear, the Italian Prime Minister, we've heard them all saying loud and clear that they are, many of them will cut aid to Palestinians until reviewed. They are determined to allow Israel to defend itself. And we hear no discussion whatsoever about proportionality or about any shred of doubt as to Israel's right. Because they understand, like President Biden said, this is a war on the West, not a war on Israel specifically. And right now we see- The Jews might be first, but not the last. Exactly. They're front line of defense, but they're not the last. And I think what we see this week in BDS protests that were such a common sight in Europe for decades now, pro-Palestinian protests with Palestine flags, not saying free Palestine remove the blockade. They say, gas the Jews. They say gas the Jews. They say the score is destroy Israel. They just take pride. They show their cell phones with these horror videos and say, look, that's what we did to you. So this is why France, Germany, other countries began to ban these pro-Palestinian protests. And they are now, I wish it didn't come with such a heavy toll, but they now realize who we're dealing with together, the entire West together. Not just out of love and support to Israel, but also a deep understanding that again, we might be first, you guys are next. And in this respect, before we move perhaps to international action or lecture of vis-a-vis the architects of what we're seeing now, I do want to go back to the domestic frontier in Israel because we've seen overnight several arrests in the West Bank of Hamas operatives. We know that the West Bank has been a terrorism hotbed for months, for years. And not less alarming, perhaps even more so, specific cases, not to the general public, but cases of Arab Israelis, including medical personnel, nurses and stuff, voicing support in Hamas, voicing support that perhaps an understatement taking off duty, of course, but what could be a plan of action? Well, I think we got to be careful not to inflame an internal frontier as well. And I think seeing, even for the most pro-Palestinian among Israeli Arabs, which are not the majority, I think they are as abhorrent as most people are at this difficult moment. We have seen Israel hesitant for decades to take bold action. The operation in Geneva, and I remind you, House and Garden was only the result of months of pressure on the part of Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria telling them, we have shooting attacks, stone throwing attacks, Molotov cocktail attacks. Every single day, we are afraid to leave our communities because the roads have become a death trap. But I think right now, Israel that has been hesitant to take action has no choice but to act un-catastrophic, as I say, because the situation was imposed on it. I only wish we didn't have to come to this moment to realize that. But now, I think all bets are off, nothing will go back to be the same as it was. And I think even if the Israeli leadership will be hesitant, I think the Israeli public would never let it to. We got to take on terrorist infrastructure around Judea and Samaria and arrest those who incite for terrorism. And we got to think through what Israel has been preserving for decades, which is the Palestinian Authority, what the international community has been contributing to. If you see their textbooks, if you see the incitement. This is all beginning with education. Youngsters who go and slaughter families do not go there without a background of 20 years of incitement against Jews and Israelis. And I think this is what you have to target, the Palestinian Authority as well, in terms of their incitement, in terms of funds go to terrorism, what they call pay for slay. All the logos and textbooks and caricatures that are typical to the Nazi regime. I'm not sure what was more deafening, the silence in the first few days or the weak statements that came out of Ramallah once they did. We will put a stop right here to talk about another pressing issue, because as we speak still dozens, about 150 Israelis are being held captive, hostage, kidnapped by Hamas terrorists and the Gaza Strip, so we want to turn now to perhaps the only man who can give us some clue of what does an operation to release them might look like. The founder of Magnus International Search and Rescue, Mr. Helik Magnus. Thank you very much, Mr. Magnus, for speaking with us this morning. The idea of confirming there was some ground activity looking for hostages in the strip that is bodies were found. To help us understand, to explain, if you can, what this type of an operation looks like on the ground? We are functioning bodies, we are not functioning in Israel, but unfortunately in those days a lot of the questions are filed to us and we are trying to assist, especially the families, but not to operate on ground, so not to get mixed, not to stand in the way of the people who are doing the hard jobs. We are not functioning in Israel. We are functioning for Israelis abroad, which are, many of them are now trying to get home and many of them also need some support and we got a lot of mental cases concerning the situation and we are doing whatever we can and know to provide help to the families and to the casualties. I'm living in Dekel, Dekel, it's a settlement in Mosheav, in the Petrat Shalom, it's funny to say, peace, and we are neighbors to the Arabs in the Gaza Strip. We are neighbors to a community of terrorists who are supported by the public opinion and supported by the people living there. There is no terrorist organization surviving that long without support of the community. The community is supporting the terrorist organization, they are participating, they are invading, they are running after the terrorists to rob the houses, they did amazing things which are not humankind, they are not even humankind behavior. People say that there are enemies, they are not enemies, enemies are very nice, they are a human race and they brought us to a point which is terrible. We would like to live in peace with them, now they forced us to kill them and unfortunately we have to do it, we have to do it very well, that well that in the next 50 years they wouldn't dare even to dream to try with us, to try to do things with us. We have to send them away, there is a solution, there is a solution. No Sinai never belonged to Egypt, they got it from the British Empire who ruled the area by Amanda at 47, they never had the Sinai before. The North of Sinai should be open to the Palestinians, they should be brought there, they get the country, they can have enough of water with a tunnel from the Nile, the Nile is dropping 150 million liters of water, of water every year in the Mediterranean, instead of this with the tunnel of 15 meter wide, all North Sinai will become a garden and the beaches can be used as tourist sites and they are staying in a position very well between Africa and Asia, Asia on the main road, so they can have a good future, but Egypt should give them the North of Sinai, Egypt should participate the effort to solve this situation, they cannot stay neighbors of us, who wants neighbors who are slaughtering babies and burning and raping, who wants them as their neighbors, let me see who wants them as a neighbor, then become, in years I am telling anybody who would like to listen, that the fences, we are behind three fences here, three fences, fences are not protected, hatred is bringing all fences down too easily unfortunately, Mr Magnus very briefly, if you can, there is a chance that some of those who are currently held captive by Hamas in the Gaza Strip are watching, who knows how their twisted mind is working, the terrorist it is of course, can you give some guidelines to how to survive, to go through these sorts of situations? Listen, we handled terror events in the past, we handled terror events in the past, let's say in the name of some governments around the world, and we conducted negotiation with El Qaeda or other kinds of terror organization, this is very difficult, we are in a war and everybody should remember that we are in a war, everybody can become a casualty of war, we should finish this war without any negotiation with those terrorists, any negotiation, we should tell them exactly what's going to happen to them, if they will touch one of those hostages that they took from Israel, they should be aware about it, they should be concerned about it and should know that they will pay the price if they will touch them, this is not a game, it's a war, in a war like a war, we have to win it, we have to win it, it will be, we will for course, but we will pay also very hard part, we paid already, and the hostages and the kidnapping people, they will stay beside and wait that we will finish the war, we finish the war, we will release them. Welcome to get them, Helik Magnus, founder of Magnus International Search and Rescue, thank you very much, sir. I would like just to say one sentence more, my neighbor, my dear neighbor, my friend, the names that are now over the pages, they are not names, they are my friends, my relatives here, my neighbors, my name, my dear neighbor, Thion Levy, who went to bring back his workers to Miltachin because the war started, he never came back because on the junction of Miltachin on his way back, he faced those terrorists, they shot him and killed him and murdered him, and unfortunately, someday we will have to bury him, so we will remember everybody got his friend here, nobody is clean from the terror that created, do you hear the shootings around him? Yeah, you're down south and it is still all happening as we speak. The thunder of the cannons, they are fighting my dog and the noise of that to be here every few seconds, thunder of bombing and shelling and cannons and missiles. Mr. Magnus, stay safe, stay strong, as you've said, not numbers, 1,300 lives already taken and so many others shattered to the bone. Thank you very much, Mr. Magnus, for this, stay strong, stay resilient, we will overcome. Thank you very much, we will stay strong. Yes, we will. Oles Akhar, head of research at the IDSF, is still with us here, your final remark, sir, before we wrap up this broadcast hostages, more of an asset or a burden for Hamas at this point in time, and should we care really? I think it's very cynical to think about it, but yes, they are an asset for Hamas now because I think hadn't they abducted so many of our fellow citizens, so many, by the way, citizens of foreign countries that are now whose leaders are now concerned and are deeply involved. I think it changes the whole, it's a whole different ballgame for Israel vis-a-vis the Gaza Strip. If you didn't have abducted people there, now we gotta be first, we gotta be careful, and second, we have a first priority in mind, not just to change the face of the Gaza Strip as Prime Minister Netanyahu said, not just to create a whole new Middle East, but also, but first and foremost, to release those people who are suffering in hostages right now. I think the next few steps Israel takes, the level of boldness of action that Israel takes will radiate around the region, as per Saudi Arabia and other countries who are considering normalizing relations with Israel. Palestinians around the Danza area and some groups among Arab Israelis who are maybe considering raising their heads. Hezbollah in Lebanon, who is right now testing the waters, harassing IDF soldiers on the front line, but doesn't open full-fledged war. And the Syrian president, all of these actors are watching what Israel is doing right now, and we gotta bear that in mind. Yes, indeed. Orys Akhar, head of research at the IDSF. Thank you very much for this. We are concluding this broadcast, but we'll be back with more other. Later on, thank you for watching. Stay strong, stay resilient. Israel is officially in a state of war. This is a very active scene, and we need to get in the car as we're talking. More than 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. We just don't know anything. Entire families, including babies and children, and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant, and we are ready, and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. I work at I24 News since 2013, since a channel was established, and I'm the defense correspondent in English since 2018. As the defense correspondent, and also in my previous roles, I was hundreds of times in Sderot and the Gaza border communities when red alert siren sounded, meaning that rockets are incoming and we all have to run to the shelters. Most of the times, the rockets were intercepted, there were no casualties, no damages, and that was my report. But there was one time in the city of Sderot, which made me realize we're all wrong. My colleagues and I ran to the shelter again, but with us ran a group of children and their mothers. The children were crying. The mothers were supposed to help them, but they were also crying. That is when I realized that what is the work for me is life for them. That's where I understood that there is damage, even if no building was damaged, and no one was physically hurt. They're Israelis, just like us in Tel Aviv, and they deserve to feel the same safety and security that we feel here. Since that morning in Sderot, my whole reporting has changed. No longer, no casualties, no damage, rockets intercepted, and that's it. The damage is ongoing. The damage is mental for those people, for those kids who have now grown into this reality. I think they deserve much more than that from the state of Israel, and I keep saying this in every report I file about rockets being fired in Sderot, even if officially there are no damages and no one was injured. For broadcast here on I-24 News, as we continue our rolling coverage, Israel at war, Day 8, a week since the world, as we've known it, changed completely forever. In the northern, infiltration attempt from the Lebanese border foiled IDF surveillance, identifying a squad of Hezbollah-directed Palestinians, trying to infiltrate Israel, an IDF remotely piloted aircraft, attacking the squad, eliminating a number of terrorists, coming on the heels of an IDF attack over Hezbollah targets in Lebanon after interceptions. Drones in the Haifa area, and as we speak, Red Alert sirens are sounding right here in Tel Aviv, including in our studios here at the Jaffa Port, Red Alert, another barrage of rockets targeting Israel s central area. Another one last night in between, of course, the barrages to Israel s south continue, one of them reaching as far as the northern city of Haifa. You can see live images of some of the interceptions now on your screen, alongside the endless list of communities, of areas that are now rushing to shelter. Yeah, another barrage of rockets targeting Israel s central, southern and central areas. All of this, of course, says the preparations towards an if or a when ground operation in the Gaza Strip continues large forces in Israel s south, of course, as the IDF is urging, calling on civilians in the northern part of the Gaza Strip to evacuate Hamas, very much befitting its state of mind, insisting that those civilians will stay and be used as human shields. And as I'm speaking to you right now, I can hear from our studios in the Jaffa Port, I can hear the sound of what seems to be interceptions, a fresh barrage of rockets. As we speak, let's cross now to our I-24 news, a senior defense correspondent, Jonathan Regev in southern Israel, Jonathan, a fresh barrage targeting not just the south, but the central areas of Israel, including the area of Tel Aviv. Yes, Hamas still has the ability to fire towards central Israel. There were two different instances of rockets towards central Israel yesterday, now one more today. And of course, to the southern communities, this is just one aspect of what is happening now. And take a look right behind me. We are between the cities of Zderot and Etivot in southern Israel. Let's remember a week after this prolonged and terrible terror attack, and you can see right here behind me, still roadblocks. We're not allowed to cross, meaning there's still concern that the terrorists may be found, may be still infiltrating. Yes, the IDF is securing the many, many holes which were left in the border fence, but you never know if they're completely shut, if no one crossed in. If no one remained here from the past week, these are risks that do exist. And therefore, we're seeing roadblocks in what is usually a central road in Israel, road number 34. But for now, we're seeing still roadblocks as this is happening, rockets to central Israel, rockets to southern Israel. And as you said, preparations for a ground offensive, which may or may not happen, we do not know yet. And Jonathan, many of our citizens here in Israel and many of our viewers abroad are wondering how come taking into consideration both the extensive amount of rockets that have already been fired towards Israel in recent days and the aerial operations on behalf of the Israeli Air Force, how come still, how much is the ability to shoot in that scope and that far? Because as we mentioned, we have to divide Gaza to two different parts, overground Gaza and underground Gaza. Under the ground, the safer Gaza these days, let's call it this way, where the leadership is safely sitting and you can rest assured. They have electricity, they have fuel, they have water, they have everything needed. And that's where the rockets are stored. And when they wish to fire somewhere, it takes them about say a minute, maybe two minutes to surface on above the air, fire and hide back. They've been waiting for this moment, training for it for years and years. All the images that we're seeing, all the people fleeing there above the ground, that's the human shield, the leadership, they're deep, deep under the ground. And Hamas is just saying now, Jonathan, that those barrages of rockets towards central Israel are in response of the evacuation orders of the IDF, essentially, again, trying to help, unlike Hamas trying to help Palestinians, civilians in the Gaza Strip, bang them, essentially, to go away and Hamas urging them to stay, human shields. This is how they treat human beings across the board. Thank you very much, Jonathan Reggiboy, 24 News Senior Defense Correspondent for this. Stay safe, much more from Jonathan, of course, throughout today, all the latest from the ground down south. Joining us now in studio are dear guest former Israeli ambassador to France and Italy, Ambassador Avi Puznel. Ambassador Puznel, thank you very much for joining us. Thank you, really, thank you. I would like us to begin by discussing what is becoming some sort of a catch phrase in recent days, this desire to see, quote, unquote, proportional response, proportional reaction. First of all, Eli wanted to address another item. I'm very proud of I-24 News that you and me here during the alarm, we state you continue to broadcast, you continue to inform all your listeners, all your audience. I know many television chains who do not do that, and that makes me proud of you and I-24 News. This is how we are winning, and this is how we will win because of our strength, because of our resilience, because, as Golda Meir said, we have no other choice. Absolutely, absolutely. And now to your question. And yet, as a side note, Ambassador Puznel, it is important to stress last night, yesterday, hopefully it will not continue to be the case, direct hits continue. Adhering to the guidelines of the Home Front Command is essential. It is saving lives day in and day out. People are still getting injured or, God forbid, killed due to direct hits. So, yes, this is part of our duty, part of our mission, and yet no one should be, you know, playing hero and rush to shelter as needed. As you say, it's our duty. Yes, please. So, you asked me about proportional or non-proportional. There is no such thing in Israeli wars against terrorism, proportional or non-proportional. We had 1,300 people killed, children, babies, women, elderly people, men. How do you answer in proportion? What? You killed 1,300 terrorists? Or maybe you killed 13,000 terrorists? Yeah. You can't do that. We, our answer is not proportional. You cannot answer proportionally. We have now a strategy. The strategy is to get rid of Hamas. This is the strategy. The question for us, for Israel, is not whether answer is proportional or non-proportional. The answer is, can we carry out our strategy? How do we carry out our strategy? It's painful. I mean, it's a painful war, not only for us, for the Palestinian civilian population. But it is the Hamas who hides behind them, who is responsible. We ask them to leave. We opened now until four o'clock this afternoon a humanitarian corridor for them to leave and to go to the southern part of Gaza. Who prevents them? The Hamas. Exactly. They hide, as you said, in tunnels. And they are safe. And they are okay. And they have water and food and electricity. They have everything. But they want their civilian population to stay and get killed, so as maybe to embarrass Israel in the international arena. Well, unfortunately, I wouldn't say that there are those who, you know what, why should I should have any preview to that? Let's take a listen to what we're hearing from the UN in recent days. Okay. Since last night, the Secretary General and his team have been working the phones. He's been in constant contact with Israeli authorities, urging them to avert a humanitarian catastrophe. Team leaders of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs and the Department of Safety and Security in Gaza were informed by the Israeli liaison officers that the Israeli military and the entire population of Gaza north of Wadi Gaza should relocate to southern Gaza within 24 hours. That was as of midnight local time last night. This amounts to approximately 1.1 million people. The same order applies to all UN staff and those sheltered in UN facilities, including schools, health centers and clinics. We consider it is impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences. And we strongly appeal for any such order to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into calamitous situation. And this statement, Ambassador Pesner, is perhaps better than the draft proposal that is about to be submitted to the UN Security Council by Russia, not even talking about Hamas with a, you know, let me just say it's a joke. You know, elite underlined our problem all these years. I deal with it for 50 years with this problem of the United Nations. What can we do? You have there an automatic anti-Israeli majority. You have it. It's a fact. But it also makes you think, Ambassador Pesner, about the way Israel was assessing its diplomatic standing, maybe to keep in good terms with Russia. Maybe we'll have a leeway in China at the end of the day. In the moment of truth, there are no questions. No. In the moment of truth, America is with us and Russia is against us. Exactly like it was during all our history. You know, there were years when we thought that Putin was a friend of Israel. And this is why, by the way, we were so cautious on one of the reasons, one of the reasons, not the only one. We are so cautious on the Russian-Ukrainian, we did not even blame Russia for aggression. Yeah, until this day, until this day. And you remember when Netanyahu was invited to Moscow and Putin and Bennett was invited to Russia. But what has happened now that Putin has become a very close ally to Iran and to North Korea and to China and gets his weapon, because Russia is unable to produce its own weapon today, gets his weapon from North Korea, from North Korea, from this backward country, gets his weapons. So maybe the silver lining in this utter darkness is that all masks are off. And maybe, with all the respect, Russia, China, they have their own standing, Africa has its own issues. Maybe all we need at the end of the day is the support of America and Europe. And we shouldn't even look elsewhere. No, it's essential. The support of America is essential. But, Eli, we should not burn bridges. Why should we burn bridges? As today, this is a situation maybe 10 years from now, the situation will be different. Let's not forget, China is an important country. We have a big trade with China. They build our metro here. I mean, we have things. But we have to take into account. When push comes to shove, we have only America, even Europe, which is very sympathetic towards Israel this day. Even Europe, we cannot count on Europe. You see? America, yes. Look at Biden. Look at Austin. Look at Blinken. Absolutely. And we will talk about it a bit later on in the broadcast, Mr. Poznel. There is also a gap between the leadership and the people, even in Europe, because what we're seeing in recent days in European capital streets is something to be addressed. But we want to welcome now Noam Mark from Kibbutz Reim joining us now, speaking to us from the southern city of Elat and alongside Noam joining us as well. Miss, your name, please. Elise. Elise, pleasure to have you. Thank you both so very much for joining us. With the lack of a better question, how are you? It's a hard question. Yes, right? Holding on. Taking a moment at a time. Yeah, we really cannot ask for anything more than that. It's been a week, a week, a week since, again, we've opened this broadcast by saying the world as we've known it changed completely forever. Can you try and share with us what you've been through this past week? The past week, first of all, we tried to hold on as a community to stay together. All of us, all the Kibbutz are together now. And we stick in one each other. So you all work together to the southern city of Elat and you're just standing by each other? Yes. A lot of hugging, a lot of kissing. I never knew that I'm so huggable. That's tough Kibbutz nicks, as we put it, are hugging so well. Yes, Elise. It's hard to think. It's good to be together. It's hard to think even ahead, one day ahead. We don't know what will be tomorrow. We don't know what's going to be in one week. It's hard even to think one month ahead. Where will we be? Where will we go to? Where will our kids go to? How do we get them back into some kind of routine school? Where are their friends? It's very hard. So we're trying to keep it together. We're trying to keep the atmosphere positive and we talk a lot and we have and we cry and we make sure we eat and we drink and we're together, trying to be stronger. You know, I'm looking at the two of you and listening to what you're saying. This is perhaps an opportunity to most of our audiences is abroad to talk about how unique the Kibbutz nicks are, because this sense of community that you have perhaps no longer exists elsewhere in the world and the resilience you've been underlining in recent days, perhaps talked with a bit about the strength, the beauty of the Kibbutz and its people. The community is very strong, but it's a civilian community. It's a friends community. It builds on happiness, joy, celebrate all our happiness and sometimes sadness together. And it's not a military organization. And now we are in a different situation. I think and I see and I feel that the community is very strong, but even a strong community can be break if you don't take care of it. So being together now, holding us together like yesterday, we did what we call Kabbalah Shabbat. And it means the entry of Shabbat and we did it together. We've been there together for one another. And you will stay together. And yet, perhaps it is time because part of being on the Israeli side is saying the tough things as well. At least are you do you feel that you're receiving enough support from the government, from the state institutions? How can we help from here? How can our viewers help? And we have the support of the government right now. Right now it's an easy support. It's our beautiful area, beautiful kibbutz is a war zone. And they stay, took us as one group and put us in a big hotel. And it's okay. But this is not the answer for next days. The next days it will be first of all, to make sure or to express to everybody that the area is safe. You can't go back. How a very big and strong woman that she is, I mean, big, not in size, but in nature. And she's really a center for me that in the next day, in the next future, she won't be staying in a bomb shelter with a knife in her hand and her child waiting for somebody to enter this bomb shelter. It will never happen again, which means we must make again the atmosphere a safe atmosphere. But the world must know it wasn't a freedom attack. It wasn't a soldier's attack. It was ISIS. And they behave like ISIS. They butchered the rape. They killed in their hands. They didn't kill with bullets. They killed with their hands. They had the opportunity to do it with bullets. They had the opportunity to behave like soldiers or against soldiers. But we are a civilian community. And they didn't behave like soldiers. So this is not some mass thing. They all the time, they like to express themselves as I don't know how you call it. The ideological movement freeing land or whatever. You came off Gaza St. This is not wasn't the case. If there if there's any silver lining in the situation nom is that again, as we've been discussing here in studio right before we turn to you, all masks are off. No excuses. It is a clear cut. What what the objectives are, at least before we let you go. What what should the world know? The world should know that we are strong. The world should know that we will stay in our houses. We'll go back to them and we'll build it again. It was a green garden. It will become again a green garden with a joy and a smile and with life and with life with life with life. This is the only answer to those vile murderers acts to live and to prosper and those flowers will bloom again. At least now we salute you and we hug you and we send you all the possible love and strength from here. And we will keep tabs with you. As you've said, the first response to this is one phase but long term is another and we will stay in touch. It is only a beginning of a long process. But for the time being, thank you for speaking to us and big, big hugs from here. Thank you. Thanks a lot, sir. Ambassador Paznel. I'm speechless. Yeah, so many stories we've heard this. So strong also after all what they went through, went through, look how strong they are and they want to rebuild. They're already thinking about planting new seeds. It's incredible, incredible people we have, incredible. You know, let's perhaps end this broadcast in, I wouldn't say in a plifting tone because it's truly impossible. But what we've seen after a very challenging year to Israeli society, what we've seen in recent days is an inherent part of this historic week that is engraved in all of our hearts alongside the pain, the strength. Absolutely. I mean, you know, somebody who was here during the last 10 months and does not know Israel and does not know well Jews could have thought that this is a society which is on the verge of civil war. I mean, you know, the feelings were so deep left and right and I mean, you could have thought the country is going to fell apart. But no, but this is the strength of the Jewish people and has been during all his history, resilience and unity when there is a danger. And you have seen, but in half an hour, all this disappeared. And I saw yesterday on TV, on the Israeli TV, Yair Golan, you know, Aluf Yair, General of the Army, Yair Golan. One of the most heroic stories. Yes. Being embraced by Orthodox Jews, you know, he was very much on the left. And they told us and they said to him, we love you, we love you, we love you. That's Israel. That's Israel. It's a pity, it's a pity that it takes us a tragedy for these good feelings to come out for this feeling of brotherhood, of being together, of fighting together. But this is Israel always has been. I mean, you can see during our 75 years, we went from combat to combat from war to war and always at the moment when it was needed, unity, search from within us, from within us. And this is very important. And what I hope that when this war will be over and hopefully when Israel will have won the day, that this feeling of unity continues. We will not let us forget the horror and we will not let us forget the bright light that is shining. We will not. Ambassador Avi Pazna, thank you very much for joining us on this broadcast. This is it for now, but we will be back, of course, with more news bulletins throughout the day as we continue our rolling coverage all day long, Israel Day Eight of the war. Stay strong, stay resilient. Thanks for watching. Over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing. We bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what Hamas did. Follow us as Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north. Join i24 news for the real story of what's going on. Because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure, the weight or the water above your head, we're able to save energy. For broadcast here on i24 news as we continue our rolling coverage Israel at war day eight a week since the world as we've known it changed completely forever. In the northern infiltration attempt from the Lebanese border foiled IDF surveillance identifying a squad of Hezbollah directed palatines trying to infiltrate Israel and IDF remotely piloted aircraft attacking the squad eliminating a number of terrorists coming on the heels of an IDF attack of a Hezbollah target in Lebanon after interceptions drones in the Haifa area and as we speak Red Alert sirens are sounding right here in Tel Aviv including in our studios here at the Jaffa port Red Alert another barrage of rockets targeting Israel's central area. Another one last night in between of course the barrages to Israel's south continue one of them reaching as far as the northern city of Haifa. You can see live images of some of the interceptions now on your screen alongside the endless list of communities of areas that are now rushing to shelter yeah another barrage of rockets targeting Israel's central southern and central areas. All of this of course says the preparations towards an if or a when ground operation in the Gaza Strip continues large forces in Israel's south of course as the IDF is urging calling on civilians in the northern part of the Gaza Strip to evacuate Hamas very much befitting its state of mind insisting that those civilians will stay and be used as human shield and as I'm speaking to you right now I can hear from our studios in the Jaffa port I can hear the sound of what seems to be interceptions a fresh barrage of rockets as we speak let's cross now to our I-24 news a senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev in southern Israel Jonathan a fresh barrage targeting not just the south but the central areas of Israel including the area of Tel Aviv. Yes Hamas still has the ability to fire towards central Israel there were two different instances of rockets towards central Israel yesterday now one more today and of course to the southern communities this is just one aspect of what is happening now and take a look right behind me we are between the cities of Zderot and Etivot in southern Israel let's remember a week after this prolonged and terrible terror attack and you can see right here behind me still roadblocks we're not allowed to cross meaning there's still concern that the terrorists may be found may be still infiltrating yes the IDF is securing the many many holes which were left on the border fence but you never know if they're completely shut if no one crossed in if no one remained here from the past week these are risks that do exist and therefore we're seeing roadblocks in what is usually a central road in Israel road number 34 but for now we're seeing a still a roadblocks as this is happening a rockets to central Israel rockets to southern Israel and as you said preparations for for a ground offensive which may or may not happen we do not know yet and Jonathan yet many of our of our citizens here in Israel and many of our viewers abroad are wondering how come taken into consideration both the extensive amount of rockets that already been fired the towards Israel in recent days and the aerial operations on behalf of the Israeli Air Force how come still how much is the ability to shoot in that scope and that far because as we mentioned we have to divide Gaza to two different parts overground Gaza and underground Gaza under the ground the safer Gaza these days let's call it this way where the leadership is safely sitting and you can rest assured they have electricity they have fuel they have water they have everything needed and that's where the rockets are stored and and when when they wish to fire somewhere it takes them about say a minute maybe two minutes to surface all above the air fire and hide back and they've been waiting for this moment training for it for years and years all the images that we're seeing all the people fleeing they're above the ground that's the human shield the leadership they're deep deep under the ground and now Hamas is just saying now Jonathan that those barrages of rockets are towards central Israel are in response of the evacuation orders of the IDF essentially again trying to help unlike Hamas trying to help Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip bang them essentially to go away and Hamas urging them to stay human shields this is how they treat human beings across the board thank you very much Jonathan Reggiboy 24 News senior defense correspondent for this stay safe much more from Jonathan of course throughout the day all the latest from the ground down south joining us now in studio our dear guest former Israeli ambassador to France and Italy ambassador Avi Puznel ambassador Puzner thank you very much for joining us thank you I would like us to begin by discussing what is becoming some sort of a catchphrase in recent days this this this desire to see quote-unquote proportional response proportional reaction first of all Eli wanted to address another item I'm very proud of i24 news that you and me here during the alarm we stayed you continue to broadcast you continue to inform all your listeners all your audience I know many television chain who do not do that and that makes me proud of you and i24 news this is how we we are winning and this is how we will win because of our strength because of our resilience because as gold amir said we have no other choice absolutely absolutely and now to your question yes and yet on as a side note ambassador Puzner it is important to stress last night yesterday hopefully it will not continue to be the case direct hits continue adhering to the to the guidelines of the home front command is essential it is saving lives day in and day out people are still getting injured or or god forbid killed due to direct hits so yes this is part of our duty part of our mission and yet no one should be you know playing hero and and rush to shelter as needed as you say it's our duty yes please so you asked me about proportional or non-proportional there is no such thing in Israeli wars against terrorism proportional or non-proportional we had 1,300 people killed children babies women elderly people men how do you answer in proportion what you killed 1,300 terrorists or maybe you killed 13,000 terrorists yeah you can't do that we our answer is not proportional you cannot answer proportionally we have now a strategy the strategy is to get rid of Hamas this is the strategy question for us for Israel is not but the answer is proportional or not the answer is can we carry out our strategy how do we carry out our strategy it's painful I mean it's a painful war not only for us for the Palestinian civilian population but it is the Hamas who hides behind them who is responsible we ask them to leave we opened now until four o'clock this afternoon a humanitarian corridor for them to leave and to go to the southern part of Gaza who prevents them the colors the cowards exactly they hide as you said in tunnels and they are safe and they are okay and they have water and food and electricity they have everything but they want their civilian population to stay and get killed so as maybe maybe to embarrass Israel in the international arena well unfortunately I wouldn't say that there are those who you know what why should I should have any preview to that let's take a listen to what we're hearing from the UN in recent days okay since last night the secretary general and his team have been working the phones he's been in constant contact with Israeli authorities urging them to revert a humanitarian catastrophe team leaders of the UN office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs and the Department of Safety and Security in Gaza were informed by the Israeli liaison officers that the Israeli military in the entire population of Gaza north of Wadi Gaza should relocate to southern Gaza within 24 hours that was that was as of midnight local time last night this amounts to approximately 1.1 million people the same order applies to apply to all UN staff and those sheltered in UN facilities including schools health centers and clinics we continue we consider it is impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences and we strongly appeal for any such order to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into calamitous situation and this statement Ambassador Pesner is is perhaps better than the draft proposal that is about to be submitted to the UN Security Council by Russia not even talking about Hamas with a you know let me just say it's a joke you know elite underlined our problem all this year I deal with it for 50 years with this problem of the United Nations what can we do you have there an automatic anti-israeli majority you have it it's it's a fact but it also makes you think uh Ambassador Pesner about the way Israel was assessing its diplomatic standing maybe to keep in good terms with Russia maybe we'll have a leeway in China that at the end of the day in the moment of truth there are no questions no in the moment of truth america and russia is against us exactly like like it was during all our history you know there were years when we thought that putin was a friend of israel and this is why by the way we were so cautious on one of the reasons one of there is not the only one we are so cautious on the russian-ukrainian we did not even blame russia for aggression yeah until this day until this day and you remember when an etanial was invited to Moscow and putin and benek was invited to run but what has happened now that putin has become a very close ally to iran and to north korea and to china and gets his weapon because russia is unable to produce its own weapon today gets his weapon from north korea from north korea from this backward country gets his weapons maybe the silver lining in this utter darkness is that all masks are off and maybe with all the respect russia china they have their own standing africa has its own issues maybe all we need at the end of the day is the support of america and europe and we shouldn't even look elsewhere no it's essential the support of america is essential but we should not burn bridges why should we burn bridges as today this is a situation maybe 10 years from now the situation will be different let's not forget china is an important country we have big trade with china they build our metro here i mean we have things but we have to take into account when push comes to shove yeah we have only america even europe which is very sympathetic towards israel this day even europe we cannot count on europe you see america yes look at biden look at austin look at blinken absolutely and we will talk about it a bit later on in the broadcast mr posnell there is also a gap between the leadership and the people even in europe because what we're seeing in recent days european capital streets is something to be addressed um but we want to welcome now um norm mark from kibbutz reim joining us now speaking to us from the southern city of elate and alongside the norm um joining us as well miss uh your name please elise elise pleasure to have you thank you both so very much for for joining us um with the lack of a of a better question how are you it's a hard question yes right um holding on taking a moment at a time yeah we really cannot ask for anything more than that it's been a week a week a week since again we've opened this broadcast by saying the world is we've known it changed completely forever can you try in and and and share with us what you've been through this past week the past week first of all we try to hold on as a community to stay together all of us all the kibbutz are together now and we stick in one each one each other so you all mark together to the southern city of of elate and you're just standing by each other yes a lot of hugging a lot of kissing i never knew that uh i'm so huggable that's tough kibbutz nicks as we put it our our are hugging so well yes elise yes it's our it's hard to think it's good to be together it's hard to think even uh ahead one day ahead and we don't know what will be tomorrow we don't know what's going to be in one week it's it's hard even to think one month ahead where will we be where will we go to where will the hard kids go to how do we get them back into some kind of routine um school where are their friends and it's very hard so we're trying to keep it together we're trying to keep the the atmosphere positive um and um and we talk and we talk we talk a lot we talk a lot and we hug and we cry and we try and make sure we eat and we drink right and we're together trying to be stronger you know i'm looking at the two of you and listening to what you're saying this is perhaps an opportunity to you know most of our of our audiences is is uh abroad to talk about how unique the kibbutz nicks are um because this sense of community that you have perhaps no longer exist elsewhere in the world um and the resilience you've been you've been underlining in recent days perhaps talked with a bit about about the the strength the beauty of the kibbutz and and and its people the community is very strong but it's a civilian community it's a friends community it's builds on happiness joy uh celebrate all our happiness and the sometimes sadness together and it's not a military organization yeah and now we are in a different situation i think and i see and i feel that the community is very strong but even a strong community can be break if you don't take care of it so of course being together now holding us together like yesterday we did what we call kabbalah shabbat and it means the entry of shabbat welcome to shabbat yeah and we did it together and we've been there together for one another and you will stay together and yet perhaps it is time because part of being um on the israeli side is saying the tough things as well um at least nom are you do you feel that you're receiving enough support from the government from the state institutions how can we help from here how can our viewers help um we have the the support of the government right now right now it's an easy support it's our beautiful area beautiful kibbutz is a war zone and uh the the state took us as one group and put us in a big hotel and it's okay but this is not the answer for next days the next days it will be uh first of all uh to make to make to make sure or to express to everybody that the that the area is safe you can't go back and how how uh a very big uh and strong woman that she's um i mean big not in size but in nature and she's really uh a center for me that in the next day in the next future she won't be staying in the bomb shelter in the mamad with a knife in her hand and her child uh waiting for somebody to enter this bomb shelter it will never happen again which mean we must make a game the atmosphere a safe atmosphere but the world must know it wasn't a freedom attack it wasn't a soldiers attack it was ices and they behave like ices they butchered the rape they killed in their hands they didn't kill with bullets they killed with their hands they had the opportunity to do it to do it with bullets they had the opportunity to behave like soldiers or against soldiers but we are a civilian community and they didn't behave like soldiers so this is not some musting they all the time they like to express themselves as i don't know how you call it an ideological movement freeing land or whatever this is not wasn't the case if there if there's any silver lining in the situation norm is that again as we've been discussing here in studio right before we turn to you all masks are off no excuses it is a clear cut um what what the objectives are at at least before we let you go um what what should the world know the world should know that we are strong the world should know that we'll stay in our houses we'll go back to them and we'll build it again it's it was a green garden it will become a game a green garden with a joy and a smile and and uh and with life and with life with life with life this is the only answer to those vile murderous acts to live and to prosper and those flowers will bloom again at least norm we salute you and we hug you and we send you all the possible love and strength from here um and we will keep tabs with you uh as you've said uh the uh first response to this is one phase but the long term is another and we will stay in touch um it is only a beginning of a long process but for the time being thank you for speaking to us uh and big big hugs from here thanks thanks a lot ambassador posnell i'm speechless yeah so many stories we've heard this so strong also after all what they went through went through look how strong they are and they want to rebuild they're already thinking about planting new seeds it's incredible incredible people we are incredible you know what let's let's let's perhaps do uh end this broadcast in uh i wouldn't say an uplifting tone because it's truly impossible but but what we've seen after a very challenging year to israeli society what we've seen in recent days is an inherent part of this of this historic week that that is engraved in all of our hearts alongside the pain the strength absolutely i mean you know somebody who was here during the last 10 months and does not know israel and does not know well jews could have thought that this is a society which is on the verge on the verge of civil war i mean you know this the feelings were so deep left and right and i mean you could have thought the country is going to to to fell apart yeah but no but this is the strength of the jewish people and has been during all his history resilience and unity when there is a danger and you have seen but in an in half an hour all this disappeared and i saw yesterday on tv on this really tv yair golan you know aluf yair he general of the army yair golan one of the most heroic stories the yes being embraced by orthodox jews you know he was very much on the left and they and they told and they said to him we love you we love you we love you that's israel that's israel it's a pity and it's a pity that it takes us a tragedy for these good feelings to come out for this feeling of brotherhood of being together or fighting together but this is israel always has been i mean you can see during our 75 years we went from combat to combat from war to war and always at the moment when it was needed unity searched from within us from within us and this is very important and what i hope that when this war will be over and hopefully when israel will have won the day that this feeling of unity continues we will not let us forget the horror and we will not let us forget the bright light that is shining we will not ambassador avipas now thank you very much for joining us on this broadcast this is it for now but um we will be back of course with more news bulletins rather days we continue our rolling coverage all day long israel day eight of the war stay strong stay resilient thanks for watching israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity from those who managed to survive in i-24 news for the real story of what's going on the special broadcast here in i-24 news as we continue our rolling coverage israel at war day eight a week since the world as we've known it changed completely forever in the northern infiltration attempt from the lebanese border foiled the idf surveillance identifying a squad of his bala directed palestinians trying to infiltrate israel an idf remotely piloted aircraft attacking the squad eliminating a number of terrorists coming on the heels of an idf attack of a his bala targets in lebanon after interceptions drones in a hypha area and as we speak red alert sirens are sounding right here in televieve including inner studios here at the jaffa port red alert another barrage of rockets targeting israel's central area another one last night in between of course the barrages to israel's south continue one of them reaching as far as the northern city of hypha you can see live images of some of the interceptions now on your screen alongside the endless list of of communities of areas that are now rushing to shelter another barrage of rockets targeting israel's central southern and central areas all of this of course says the preparations towards an if or a when ground operation in the gaza ship continues large forces in israel's south of course as the idf is urging calling on civilians in the northern part of the gaza ship to evacuate hamas very much befitting its state of mind insisting that those civilians will stay and be used as human shields and as i'm speaking to you right now i can hear from our studios in the jaffa port i can hear the sound of what seems to be interceptions of fresh barrage of rockets as we speak let's cross now to our 24 news a senior defense correspondent donathan reggae in southern israel jonathan a fresh barrage targeting not just the south but the central areas of israel including the area of televieve yes hamas still has the ability to to fire towards central israel there were two different instances of rockets towards central israel yesterday now one more today and of course to the southern communities this is just one aspect of what is happening now and take a look right behind me we are between the cities of zderot and etivot in southern israel let's remember a week after this a prolonged and terrible terror attack and you can see right here behind me still roadblocks and we're not allowed to cross meaning there's still concern that the terrorists may be found may be still infiltrating yes the idf is securing the many many holes which were left on the border fence but you never know if they're completely shut if no one crossed in if no one remained here from the past week these are risks that do exist and therefore we're seeing roadblocks in what is usually a central road in israel road number 34 but for now we're seeing a still a roadblocks as this is happening a rockets to central israel rockets to southern israel and as you said preparations for for a ground offensive which may or may not happen we do not know yet and Jonathan yet many of our of our citizens here in israel and many of our viewers abroad are wondering how come taken into consideration both the extensive amount of rockets that already been fired the towards israel in recent days and the aerial operations on behalf of the israeli um air force how come still how much is the ability to shoot in that scope and that far because as we mentioned we have to divide gaza to two different parts overground gaza and underground gaza uh under the ground the safer gaza these days that's called it this way where the leadership is safely sitting and you can rest assured they have electricity they have fuel they have water they have everything needed and that's where the rockets are stored and and when when they wish to fire somewhere it takes them about say a minute maybe two minutes to surface on above the air fire and hide back they've been waiting for this moment training for it for years and years all the images that we're seeing all the people fleeing there above the ground that's the human shield the leadership they're deep deep under the ground and now Hamas is just saying now Jonathan that those barrages of rockets towards central israel or in response of the evacuation orders of the IDF essentially again trying to help unlike Hamas trying to help uh palestinians civilians in the gaza strip bang them essentially to go away and Hamas urging them to stay human shields um this is how they treat human beings across the board um thank you very much jonathan regular 24 news senior defense correspondent for this stay safe much more from jonathan of course throughout today all the latest from the ground down south joining us now in studio um our dear guest former israeli ambassador to france and italy ambassador avipasnell ambassador puzner thank you very much for joining us thank you i would like us to begin by discussing what is becoming some sort of a catch phrase in recent days this um this this desire to see uh quote unquote proportional response proportional reaction first of all aili wanted to address another item i'm very proud of i24 news that you and me here during the alarm we state you continue to broadcast you continue to inform all your listeners all your audience i know many television chain who do not do that and that makes me proud of you and i24 news this is how we we are and winning and this is how we will win um because of our strength because of our resilience because as gold amir said we have no other choice absolutely absolutely and now to your question yes and yet on as a side note ambassador puzner it is important to stress last night yesterday hopefully it will not continue to be the case direct hits continue adhering to the um to the guidelines of the home front command is essential it is saving lives day in and day out people are still getting injured or or god forbid killed due to direct hits so um yes this is part of our duty part of our mission and yet no one should be you know playing hero of course and and rush to shelter as needed as you say it's our duty yes please so um you you asked me about proportional or non-proportional there is no such thing in israeli wars against terrorism proportional or non-proportional we had thousand three hundreds people killed children babies women elderly people men how do you answer in proportion what you killed 1,300 terrorists or maybe you killed 13,000 terrorists yeah you can't do that we our answer is not proportional you cannot answer proportionally we have now a strategy the strategy is to get rid of Hamas this is the strategy question for us for israel is not but the answer is proportional or not the answer is can we carry out our strategy how do we carry out our strategy it's painful i mean it's a painful war not only for us for the palestinian civilian population but it is the Hamas who hides behind them who is responsible we asked them to leave we opened now until four o'clock this afternoon a humanitarian corridor for them to leave and to go to the southern part of Gaza who prevents them the Hamas the cowards exactly they hide as you said in tunnels and they are safe and they are okay and they have water and food and electricity they have everything but they want their civilian population to stay and get killed so as maybe maybe to embarrass israel in the international arena well unfortunately i wouldn't say that there are those who you know what why should i uh should have any preview to that let's take a listen to what we're hearing from the un in recent okay since last night the secretary general and his team have been working the phones he's been in constant contact with israeli authorities urging them to avert a humanitarian catastrophe team leaders of the u. n office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs and the department of safety and security in Gaza were informed by the israeli liaison officers that the israeli military in the entire population of god gaza north of wadi gaza should relocate to southern Gaza within 24 hours that was that was as of midnight local time last night this amounts to approximately 1.1 million people the same order applies to apply to all un staff and those sheltered in un facilities including schools health centers and clinics we continue we consider it is impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences and we strongly appeal for any such order to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into calamitous situation and this statement uh ambassador puzner is is perhaps um um better than uh the draft proposal that is about to be submitted uh to the UN Security Council by russia not even talking about hamas with a you know let me just say it's a joke you know elite underlined our problem all this year i deal with it for 15 years with this problem of the united nations what can we do you have there an automatic anti-israeli majority you have it it's a it's a fact but it also makes you think uh master puzner about the way israel was assessing its diplomatic standing maybe to keep in good terms with russia maybe we'll have a leeway in china that at the end of the day in the moment of truth there are no questions no in the moment of truth america and russia is against us exactly like like it was during all our history you know there were years when we thought that putin was a friend of israel and this is why by the way we were so cautious on one of the reasons one of the reason not the only one we are so cautious on the russian ukrainian we did not even blame russia for aggression until this day until this day and you remember when an etanial was invited to mosca and putin and benet was invited but what has happened now that putin has become a very close ally to iran and to north korea and to china and gets his weapon because russia is unable to produce its own weapon today gets his weapon from north korea from north korea from this backward country gets his weapons maybe the silver lining in this utter darkness is that all masks are off and maybe with all the respect russia china they have their own standing africa has its own issues maybe all we need at the end of the day is the support of america and europe and we shouldn't even look elsewhere no it's essential the support of america is essential but ellie we should not burn bridges why should we burn bridges as you today this is a situation maybe 10 years from now the situation will be different let's not forget china is an important country we have big trade with china they build our metro here i mean we have things but we have to take into account when push comes to shove yeah we have only america even europe which is very sympathetic towards israel this day even europe we cannot count on europe you see america yes look at biden look at austin look at blinken absolutely and we will talk about it a bit later on in the broadcast mr postman there is also a gap between the leadership and the people even in europe because what we're seeing in recent days european capital streets is something to be addressed but we want to welcome now um noam mark from kibbutz reim joining us now speaking to us from the southern city of elate and alongside the norm um joining us as well um miss uh your name please elise pleasure to have you thank you both so very much for for joining us um with the lack of a of a better question how are you it's a hard question yes right holding on taking a moment at a time yeah we really cannot ask for anything more than that um um it's been a week a week a week since again we've opened this broadcast by saying the world is we've known it changed uh completely forever can you try in and and and share with us what you've been through this past week the past week first of all we're trying to hold on as a community to stay together all of us all the kibbutz are together now we stick in one one each other so you all work together to the southern city of of elate and you're just standing by each other yes a lot of hugging a lot of kissing i never knew that that i'm so huggy that's tough kibbutz nicks as we put it our our our hugging so well yes elise yes it's hard it's hard to think it's good to be together it's hard to think even ahead one day ahead and we don't know what will be tomorrow we don't know what's going to be in one week it's it's hard even to think one month ahead where will we be where will we go to where will the hard kids go to how do we get them back into some kind of routine and school where are their friends and it's very hard so we're trying to keep it together we're trying to keep the atmosphere positive and and and we talk and we talk and we talk a lot we talk a lot and we have and we cry and we so and make sure we eat and we drink right and we're together trying to be stronger you know i'm looking at the two of you and listening to what you're saying this is perhaps an opportunity to you know most of our of our audiences is is abroad to talk about how unique the kibbutz nicks are because this sense of community that you have perhaps no longer exist elsewhere in the world and the resilience you've been you've been underlining in recent days perhaps talked with us a bit about about the the strength the beauty of the kibbutz and and and its people the community is very strong but it's a civilian community it's a friends community it builds on happiness joy uh celebrate all our happiness and sometimes sadness together and it's not a military organization yeah and now we are in a different situation i think and i see and i feel that the community is very strong but even a strong community can be break if you don't take care of it so of course being together now and holding us together like yesterday we did what we call kabbalat shabbat and it means the entry of shabbat welcome to shabbat here and we did it together we've been there together for one another and you will stay together and yet perhaps it is time because part of being on the israeli side is saying the tough things as well at least nom are you do you feel that you're receiving enough support from the government from the state institutions how can we help from here how can our viewers help and we have the the support of the government right now right now it's an easy support it's our beautiful area beautiful kibbutz is a war zone and the the state took us as one group and put us in a big hotel and it's okay but this is not the answer for next days the next days it will be first of all to make to make to make sure or to express to everybody that the the area is safe you can't go back and how how a very big and strong woman that she is and i mean big not in size but in nature and she's really a center for me that in the next day in the next future she won't be staying in the bomb shelter in the mamad with a knife in her hand and her child waiting for somebody to enter this bomb shelter it will never happen again which means we must make a game the atmosphere a safe atmosphere that the world must know it wasn't a freedom attack it wasn't a soldiers attack it was ices and they behave like ices they butcher the rate they killed in the hands they didn't kill with bullets they killed with their hands they had the opportunity to do it with bullets they had the opportunity to behave like soldiers or against soldiers but we are a civilian community and they didn't behave like soldiers so this is not some musting they all the time they like to express themselves as i don't know how you call it an ideological movement freeing land or whatever this is not wasn't the case if there if there's any silver lining in the situation norm is that again as we've been discussing here in studio right before we turn to you all masks are off no excuses it is a clear cut what what the objectives are at least before we let you go um what what should the world know the world should know that we are strong the world should know that we will stay in our houses we'll go back to them and we'll build it again it it was a green garden it will become a game green garden with a joy and a smile and and uh and with life and with life with life with life this is the only answer to those vile murderous acts to live and to prosper and those flowers will bloom again at least norm we salute you and we hug you and we send you all the possible love and strength from here and we will keep tabs with you as you've said the first response to this is one phase but long term is another and we will stay in touch it is only a beginning of a long process but for the time being thank you for speaking to us and big big hugs from here thanks thanks a lot ambassador president i'm speechless yeah so many stories we've heard this so strong also after all what they went through went through look how strong they are and they want to rebuild they're already thinking about planting new seeds it's incredible incredible people we have incredible you know what let's let's let's perhaps do uh end this broadcast in uh i wouldn't say in a plifting tone because it's truly impossible but but what we've seen after a very challenging year to Israeli society what we've seen in recent days is an inherent part of this of this historic week that is engraved in all of our hearts alongside the pain the strength absolutely i mean you know somebody who was here during the last 10 months and does not know israel and does not know well jews could have thought that this is a society which is on the verge on the verge of civil war i mean you know this the feelings were so deep left and right and i mean you could have thought the country is going to to to fell apart yeah but no but this is the strength of the jewish people and has been during all his history resilience and unity when there is a danger and you have seen but in a in half an hour all this disappeared and i saw yesterday on tv on the Israeli tv yair golan you know aluf yair he general of the army yair golan one of the most heroic stories yes being embraced by orthodox jews you know he was very much on the left and they and they told and they said to him we love you we love you we would love you that's israel that's israel it's a pity heli it's a pity that it takes us a tragedy for these good feelings to come out for this feeling of brotherhood of being together of fighting together but this is israel always has been i mean you can see during our 75 Easter years we went from combat to combat from war to war and always at the moment when it was needed unity searched from within us from within us and this is very important and what i hope that when we this war will be over and hopefully when israel will have won the day that this feeling of unity continues we will not let us forget the horror and we will not let us forget the bright light that is shining we will not ambassador avipas now thank you very much for joining us on this broadcast this is it for now but um we will be back of course with more news bulletins throughout the day as we continue our rolling coverage all day long israel day eight of the war stay strong stay resilient thanks for watching over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing we bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what hamas did follow us as israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north join i-24 news for the real story of what's going on option is to enter the link that appears on the screen we wait for your response officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we don't want to do we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity welcome you're watching i-24 news we're coming to you live from televiv it's day eight of israel's war with gaza with hamas and it's exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a hamas onslaught in the south of the country as israel continues to identify and bury its dead the israeli air force is pounding gaza with airstrikes two senior hamas commanders are confirmed killed the commander who led last week's attack and the head of the group's aerial force the idf says hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to prevent them from doing so the egyptian media outlet mademasi reports that egypt is closing the rafa crossing with concrete barriers in the west bank security forces have arrested dozens of hamas supporters and israelis have been taking shelter this morning after a barrage of rockets were fired towards central israel no casualties were reported meanwhile in the north on the border with lebanon the idf has published footage of a drone strike on a terrorist cell which attempted to infiltrate israel it was destroyed three terrorists were killed in the strike close to the northern town of margalyot speaking from beirut today the iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in gaza the u.s president joe biden says washington is working frantically to release them the u.s is sending significant military aid to israel as well let's go to the northern border for the very latest our correspondent rob swift is there robson breaking news right now that's correct laura just about 10 minutes ago alarms went out on israeli security applications saying that an aircraft was identified crossing into israeli space in the community of gornot hagalil that is just that several dozen miles to the east of us and if this is confirmed as a penetration of israel's skies it would be the third instance of this occurring in the last 24 hours just in the last two minutes we've heard israeli jones as we've heard israeli jets in the skies overhead this is likely in response to this incident and there were two other incidents earlier in the last 24 hours with israel conducting retaliatory strikes in response to an incursion of three drones in the skies over hypha and another incident where where israel conducted a strike due to a penetration of its border in the eastern section of its north northern frontier due to a squad of three to four palestinian gunmen crossing the border into israel's territory so just to be clear rob the latest attempt at an infiltration has been thought is that right that is what we're hearing that's correct this is just just happening in the last few minutes yeah okay last few minutes what is the advice to the population in the area in instances like this warnings go out on israeli's applications that they have on their phones telling them to get into the bomb shelter that many of the residents in this northern part of the country have and to remain there until they're given the all-clear by the israeli authorities okay and uh tell us about the um the military presence in the north right now there is there's a massive military presence here uh two days ago the idf announced it was sending many of the reserve forces that had called up to this area to bolster the uh the the existing idf presence here in the time we've been here we've seen multiple checkpoints both police and army checkpoints and we've seen several locations which appear to us to be staging areas for israeli armor with multiple tanks parked at these positions ready to respond to where they are need to be sent if this situation here was to escalate this is due to the understood threat that hezbollah represents they are a massive organization both in infantry fighting capability they have a significant number of fighters that they can deploy but also in terms of the rocket arsenal they have um they're understood to have built up an arsenal of rockets and also missiles um which are in excess of many western armies capabilities in that area all right thank you rob rob swift there at the northern border danie ayalon is the former israeli ambassador to the united states he's uh with us now um so the uh focus um in the last hour or so is on the situation in the north um we've had we've got the iranian foreign minister in bay route right now um he said that hezbollah's entry into the war will be a huge earthquake for israel this is exactly what the united states um has warned against isn't it it has warned hezbollah not to get involved can we expect some kind of support from the americans at this stage oh absolutely laura and you're right you know if we look now at the original picture and we remember that just a week or so ago before the war started there was a summit if you will in bay route between the iranians between hezbollah and khamas together so we know it's all orchestrated but the mastermind is iran this is obvious whether they just pulled the trigger on the 7th of october or not it's it's beside the point they are the ones who are masterminding they are the ones that are supplying training and everything now from the iranians position of course they would like to have multiple israel facing multiple fronts if they had their way it wasn't just hamas in gaza in the south and not just hezbollah in the north in lebanon but also the palestinians the and they have hamas in the west bank also inciting israeli arabs in in in israel itself to turn against their neighbors in in the jews and in the northern border with the syria when they have the militia the iranian militias in syria and in iraq this is their plan now the thing is here that israel has its capabilities and also it has its allies first and foremost the united states which understand it they missed the let's say the hezbollah missed the opportunity the window of opportunity was slim head i mean god forbid had they were starting an onslaught the same time where hamas did october 7th we would have been in a much much much worse situation it would have taken us much more than it did in order to regroup but now they lost the opportunity so for hezbollah now you know when we are ready for them if they now attack well when you've got the the world's largest aircraft carrier sent by the united states in the eastern Mediterranean right now more military aid is on the way and can that be deployed oh absolutely absolutely and there is another point which should be understood you know after the abraham accord was achieved israel from the american perspective was the coordination with the military was moved from yukon the european command of the americans to sent com which is a central command based in the gulf so today there is a almost a seamless operation if needed between the idf and the and the american forces which is a a huge difference so of course the american group the um strike group in the Mediterranean which is basically now very close uh to the shores of of lebanon we and again god forbid we do not need american boots on the ground we are capable of defending ourselves but what they do in terms of the capabilities that they have with the sixth fleet with the uh the carrier that they have the gerald ford it's um it's an electronical warfare it's ballistic missiles defense you know there is this eegis which is something and it is also now it could be integrated and coordinated with israeli systems so this is really adding a great great defensive shield for israel which is a great deterrence now if hizballah now were to start and i don't think they will because they understand that they lost their opportunity because if they started now when we talk about these attempted infiltrations is this has bola or is this hamas well it's both because hamas couldn't be able to do it there is hamas lebanon of course the palestinians in lebanon but they they wouldn't be able to do it without the coordination and permit from hizballah and hizballah is doing it just as a matter of showing solidarity maybe of provoking to show to uh to have the record in the history that they didn't sit idle so it's more like um how should i say it sometimes symbol like a fig leaf so something that you know uh a symbol you're right but i don't think it will go beyond that because if they do we are ready let's talk about hamas then in a significant um uh victory for the idea they've killed uh not only the head of the hamas arian force they've also killed the hamas commando who actually led uh the uh brutal raid on southern israel a week ago yes and now see once israeli regroups you know they will work very methodically and it's very important to um to sound it especially to international audience that you have uh lora is that what israel does today is not out of revenge it's out of cell defense and the fact that we go and we will continue to go one by one after all the perpetrators and the leader of this isis like hamas is not just as a matter of course they deserve it because of what they did but mostly it's because of preventing and preempting their next attack so this is a cell defense and they all should be really put out okay danie uh we're going to go now to the uh southern border there uh with the border with gaza our jonathan regov is there jonathan two senior commanders taking out uh with israeli airstrikes yes true and in israel said it loud and clear and now all of the hamas leadership political wing military wing whatever wing the their targets and they will be eventually found and uh killed whoever you can kill from the air is is very nice but eventually if you want to catch all of them you will have to enter militarily and it will be and enter through the ground and it will be a difficult affair because uh the hamas leaders are very brave when it comes to putting the citizens of gaza in danger they're telling them don't move despite the fact that the idf has told them to move and and and they're putting the the gaza the gaza population in danger and they're very brave at doing that they're far less brave by appearing themselves they're they're stuck deep underground and you can rest assured where they are there is electricity there is water there is fuel there is anything they need to to be there for quite some time but israeli sending a message we're after you will get you and and it has begun and there was a limited ground operation into gaza last night wasn't there jonathan yes very limited we have to say a ground incursion a few tens of meters or hundreds of meters into gaza mainly to gather information that could help perhaps with the look for hostages and also to make sure that there are no no terror squads waiting inside the gaza territory to infiltrate into israel through the various holes that still exist in the the fence there was some some kind of an incursion yes is it the ground incursion far from it and uh what about signs that uh tens of thousands of palestinian civilians hundreds of thousands i should say the idf says are moving south in gaza heeding that warning from the idf yes many are moving south understanding that that a very strong response from the idf whether from the air or from the ground will eventually come khamas is trying to stop that to first psychologically telling khamas telling its own citizens that all this information is psychological warfare from israel and also actually putting roadblocks to try and prevent gaza for moving as i said they're very brave when it comes to their civilians life much less brave when it comes to their own lives all right jonathan thank you jonathan reggae is there um at the border with gaza well another video of one of the terrorists the hamas terrorists who was captured alive in southern israel on saturday has been released by the israeli security forces you can see for yourself now Admitting on camera what atrocities were committed a week ago. One of the many, many Israelis who have been affected by those atrocities committed by Hamas terrorists last week joins us now. Abby on, thank you for being with us. It's incredibly hard what you're going through. Can you tell us a bit about your situation? Tell us what happened. Yes, thank you for having me. Last Saturday it's unbelievable that it's a week ago already. We woke at 6.30 to sirens for the most part across the country. We have family all over Israel and when we came back from the bomb shelter we began checking in with the rest of our family. We started getting messages from our family in the south. They live on kibbutz near Oz, which is very, very close to the Gaza border. When the sirens go off, they stay in their shelter because of the proximity. And they began telling us that Hamas had infiltrated not only the border, but that they were in their kibbutz that they could hear them in the house turning everything upside down. They could hear gunfire and that they were afraid for their lives that that felt like a Holocaust for them. We lost contact with them around 11 or 12 in the morning. We believe maybe the army asked them to turn their phones off so that they wouldn't be points of identification. And we didn't hear anything from them. We haven't heard anything from the five of them. There are five. Carmela is 80. She's there with three of her grandchildren, 12 year old Noia who has special needs, 16 year old Sahar, 12 year old Eris, sorry, 13 year old Noia who has special needs and 16 year old Sahar. They are there with their father, Ofer who is 53. And on Sunday we got Hamas uploaded a video with Eris who is 12 in their hands in the hands of terrorists. My goodness. I'm so sorry. What are the authorities advising you? What advice are you getting? We're working very closely both with the government of the United States because Carmela is American and with the French government. As all five of them are French. And we are very, very grateful both to the US and to the French government for the help that they're giving us. We are doing everything we can to work with governmental authorities and with any third parties. Our main press right now is to get citizens, both of France, the United States and all other countries to pressure their governments, to pressure Hamas to get humanitarian aid in. It is against the Geneva Convention. It is a war crime to hold hostage elderly people and children, especially children with special needs. There are people there that are wounded and need their medicine. These are very, very dire, dire needs. And without releasing the hostages, it only becomes worse for the citizens of Gaza who also need humanitarian aid. How do you feel, Abby, when you hear these humanitarian groups decrying the situation for the civilians of Gaza, but you're not hearing any calls for the hostages to be released? I feel as a Jew who was born in America and lives in Israel, like we have said, never again, our whole lives and it is happening that we are experiencing a Holocaust in a program and a terror wrapped in one. And I believe as a terrorist organization, Hamas not only grains terror on the citizens of my country and my family, but they are holding their own citizens hostage and it is terror for all of us. Abby, you're incredibly strong. What is getting you through this? How do you keep going? I have an amazing husband and family and beyond that, the Jewish community globally and within Israel unfortunately knows how to come together in these moments and the amount of funds raised and gear flown in and food brought in support for our soldiers who are defending us is the thing that is giving me hope and I believe our only choice right now is hope. We have tried to erase this before and we are here. We will continue to be here. We are people who believe in peace, who believe that this is not the Israeli Palestinian issue, that this is an issue of terror. I lived in the United States on 9-11 and we stood then against ISIS and we stand now against Hamas. All right. Thank you very much, Abby, on and everyone in the country is praying for you and hoping for a good outcome to this nightmarish scenario that nobody should have to go through. Abby, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Danny, that's just, there are no words for heartbreaking. That is a 12-year-old child, a grandmother, somebody with special needs, completely mercilessly taken by Hamas terrorists. Well, it's beyond words. But yet, you know, with all this darkness, you know, when you see, you know, the lady misses on here, that gives you not only hope but strength and I think this is really the Jewish spirit whereby, you know, and again, we have been seared unfortunately by 2000 years and more of trials and tribulations, you know, culminated with the Holocaust just less than 80 years ago. So we know, you know, we know we have been beaten, but we always came back and this is the same situation now. We'll come back and we are coming back. And of course, it's not just Israelis. There are many foreign nationals being held among the hostages, which does mean that other governments are involved in, I think this is one of the worst hostage situations in history, in affecting multiple countries. I mean, will there be a tense at some kind of negotiation? Well, you're right. I think it's unprecedented in the scope, you know, so many people. But it's not just the scope in the terms of the number of hostages, but also who they are. It's the first time we see babies, 85-year-old ladies. It's just incredible. And yes, everybody, you know, governments are involved, whether this will be helpful or not, you know, with the Hamas, you never know. But it's very important to keep the pressure. And if now, anyone, and you mentioned it, that, you know, how do we feel when people are calling us, you know, on the humanitarian situation in Gaza? I mean, we don't want any harm for the people of Gaza, not at all. But when Hamas is in charge there, and before they talk about any humanitarian situation, the demand should be released to hostages before anything else. And of course, Hamas is trying to win the communications, the media war by not only making sure as many of its own civilians are killed as possible, but also kind of trying to play a psychological game with Israel that they have the hostages there as well. Yes. But I think they have overplayed their cards. You know, we remember Gilat Shalit. By the way, for Gilat Shalit, Israel paid dearly with 1,400 mass, you know, with murderers. By the way, the top guy that was released for Gilat Shalit, Yihai Sinwar, is the leader of Hamas now. Who is also the one organizing what we have seen? So I think we will change, we will change the rules of the games now, whereby we'll do everything to release the hostages, but not at the cost of our lives. Destroying Hamas, that's the number one goal. I think so. Well, the death toll in Gaza now stands at, according to Hamas, 2,215. And those figures are released. I stress by the Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry, it is a figure that does not distinguish between terrorist and civilian deaths. It's important to bear that in mind. It is in the interest, of course, of Hamas to have a high civilian death toll, because Hamas wants to sway the international community into pressuring Israel into stopping its campaign to destroy Hamas. Well, one example of Hamas propaganda, they released, but then quickly deleted this video. It clearly shows a plastic doll being pulled from the rubble and passed off as a dead child. So they posted that video, and then they quickly deleted it when they realized what they had done, and that nobody would be fooled by that. And outrageously, enough real pictures of murdered and massacred babies on the Israeli side have been released. There is pressure from the United Nations, not from the United States. We saw that very strong statement of support from Lloyd Austin, the U.S. Defense Secretary here in Israel yesterday saying Hamas was, in fact, worse than ISIS. The UN, however, is a very different organization, and it is already trying to put the pressure on Israel to stop this campaign. Yeah, but at this point, Laura, they're irrelevant. As long as we have the United States on our side, the UN is irrelevant. And we know this is the most hypocritical and the most cynical body since its inception on the ruins of the old League of Nations before World War II. They have done nothing to prevent hunger, to prevent wars, and refugees all over the world. And we should not heed to anything they say, just focus on our friends and allies, first and foremost, the United States, but also the Western countries, which also are on our side, namely United Kingdom and France, which are also members of the Security Council. And they are the ones together supporting the United States can prevent any unwanted step against Israel. And just a reminder before we go of the top latest developments, the IDF says that two senior Hamas commanders have been killed in targeted strikes. That includes the commander who led the brutal onslaught on the southern communities of Israel a week ago today. The IDF also says that the latest drone infiltration alert in the north was a false alarm important to point out. The IDF has already destroyed another attempt at infiltration, three terrorists killed, as Danny points out, Hamas is and Hezbollah trying to show in a limited way solidarity with what's going on in Gaza. You've got the Iranian foreign minister of course in Beirut right now as well saying that his proxies are ready to join the fight. The United States yesterday, the Defense Secretary here in a strong message said to those forces, one word, don't. We'll keep you updated here on I-24 News with all the very latest do stay with us. 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing. The testimony is from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what Hamas did. Follow us as Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north. 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The IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of Hamas to prevent them from doing so. The Egyptian media outlet Madin Masil reports that Egypt is closing the Rafa crossing with concrete barriers. In the West Bank, security forces have arrested dozens of Hamas supporters and Israelis have been taking shelter this morning after a barrage of rockets were fired towards central Israel. No casualties were reported. Meanwhile, in the north on the border with Lebanon, the IDF has published footage of a drone strike on a terrorist cell which attempted to infiltrate Israel. It was destroyed three terrorists were killed in the strike close to the northern town of Margaliot. Speaking from Beirut today, the Iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region, including Hezbollah, are ready to respond to any action by Israel. And between 150 and 200 hostages, most of them Israelis, but many other nationalities as well, are being held in Gaza. The U.S. President Joe Biden says Washington is working frantically to release them. The U.S. is sending significant military aid to Israel as well. Let's go to the northern border for the very latest correspondent. Rob Swift is there. Rob, some breaking news right now. That's correct, Laura. Just about 10 minutes ago, alarms went out on Israeli security applications saying that an aircraft was identified crossing into Israeli space in the community of Gornot Hagalil. That is just several dozen miles to the east of us. If this is confirmed as a penetration of Israel's skies, it would be the third instance of this occurring in the last 24 hours. Just in the last two minutes, we've heard Israeli jets in the skies overhead. This is likely in response to this incident. And there were two other incidents earlier in the last 24 hours with Israel conducting retaliatory strikes in response to an incursion of three drones in the skies over Haifa and another incident where Israel conducted a strike due to a penetration of its border in the eastern section of its northern frontier, due to a squad of three to four Palestinian government crossing the border into Israel's territory. So just to be clear, Rob, the latest attempt at an infiltration has been sorted. Is that right? That is what we're hearing. That's correct. This is just happening in the last few minutes. Yeah. Okay. Last few minutes. What is the advice to the population in the area? In instances like this, warnings go out on Israeli applications that they have on their phones, telling them to get into the bomb shelter that many of the residents in this northern part of the country have and to remain there until they're given the all-clear by the Israeli authorities. Okay. And tell us about the military presence in the north right now. There's a massive military presence here. Two days ago, the IDF announced it was sending many of the reserve forces that had called up to this area to bolster the existing IDF presence here. In the time we've been here, we've seen multiple checkpoints, both police and army checkpoints, and we've seen several locations which appear to us to be staging areas for Israeli armor with multiple tanks parked at these positions ready to respond to where they need to be sent if this situation here was to escalate. This is due to the understood threat that Hezbollah represents. They are a massive organization, both in infantry fighting capability. They have a significant number of fighters that they can deploy, but also in terms of the rocket arsenal they have. They're understood to have built up an arsenal of rockets and also missiles which are in excess of many Western armies' capabilities in that area. All right. Thank you, Rob. Rob Swift there at the northern border. Danny Ayalan is the former Israeli ambassador to the United States. He's with us now. So the focus in the last hour or so is on the situation in the north. We've got the Iranian foreign minister in Beirut right now. He said that Hezbollah's entry into the war will be a huge earthquake for Israel. This is exactly what the United States has warned against, isn't it? It has warned Hezbollah not to get involved. Can we expect some kind of support from the Americans at this stage? Oh, absolutely, Laura. And you're right. If we look now at the original picture, and we remembered it just a week or so ago before the war started, there was a summit, if you will, in Beirut between the Iranians, between Hezbollah and Hamas together. So we know it's all orchestrated, but the mastermind is Iran. This is obvious. Whether they just pulled the trigger on the 7th of October or not, it's beside the point. They are the ones who are masterminding. They are the ones that are supplying, training and everything now. From the Iranians' position, of course, they would like to have multiple, Israel facing multiple fronts. If they had their way, it wasn't just Hamas in Gaza in the south and not just Hezbollah in the north in Lebanon, but also the Palestinians, and they have Hamas in the West Bank, also inciting Israeli Arabs in Israel itself to turn against their neighbors in the Jews, and in the northern border with Syria when they have the militia, the Iranian militias in Syria and in Iraq. This is their plan. Now, the thing is here that Israel has its capabilities and also it has its allies, first and foremost, the United States, which understand it. They missed the, let's say, the Hezbollah, missed the opportunity. The window of opportunity was slim. Head, I mean, God forbid, they were starting an onslaught the same time where Hamas did. October 7th, we would have been in a much, much, much worse situation. It would have taken us much more than it did in order to regroup. But now they lost the opportunity. So for Hezbollah now, when we are ready for them, if they now attack... Well, when you've got the world's largest aircraft carrier sent by the United States in the Eastern Mediterranean right now, more military aid is on the way. Can that be deployed? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And there is another point which should be understood. After the Abraham Accord was achieved, Israel, from the American perspective, was the coordination with the military, was moved from Yukon, the European command of the Americans, to SENTCOM, which is a central command based in the Gulf. So today, there is almost a seamless operation, if needed, between the IDF and the American forces, which is a huge difference. So of course, the American group, the strike group in the Mediterranean, which is basically now very close to the shores of Lebanon, we... And again, God forbid, we do not need American boots on the ground. We are capable of defending ourselves. But what they do in terms of the capabilities that they have with the Sixth Fleet, with the carrier that they have, the Gerald Ford, it's it's an electronic warfare. It's ballistic missiles defense. There is this Aegis, which is something. And it is also now... It could be integrated and coordinated with Israeli systems. So this is really adding a great, great defensive shield for Israel, which is a great deterrence. Now, if Hezbollah now were to start, and I don't think they will, because they understand that they lost their opportunity, because if they started now... When we talk about these attempted infiltrations, is this Hezbollah or is this Hamas? Well, it's both, because Hamas couldn't be able to do it. There is Hamas Lebanon, of course, the Palestinians in Lebanon, but they wouldn't be able to do it without the coordination and permit from Hezbollah. And Hezbollah is doing it just as a matter of showing solidarity, maybe of provoking to show, to have the record in the history that they didn't sit idle. So it's more like, how should I say it? It's sometimes like a fig leaf. So something that, you know, is simple. You're right. But I don't think it will go beyond that, because if they do, we are ready. Let's talk about Hamas then in a significant victory for the IDF. They've killed not only the head of the Hamas area, but they've also killed the Hamas commander who actually led the brutal raid on southern Israel a week ago. Yes. And now, see, once Israel regroups, you know, they will work very methodically. And it's very important to sound it, especially to international audience that you have, Laura, is that what Israel does today is not out of revenge. It's out of self-defense. And the fact that we go and we will continue to go one by one after all the perpetrators and the leader of this ISIS-like Hamas is not just, as a matter of course, they deserve it because of what they did, but mostly it's because of preventing and preempting their next attack. So this is a self-defense. And they all should be really put out. Okay, Danny, we're going to go now to the southern border there with the border with Gaza. Our Jonathan Regev is there. Jonathan, two senior commanders taking out with Israeli airstrikes. Yes, true. And Israel said it loud and clear. And now all of the Hamas leadership, political wing, military wing, whatever wing, their targets, and they will be eventually found and killed, whoever you can kill from the air is very nice. But eventually, if you want to catch all of them, you will have to enter militarily and it will be enter through the ground. And it will be a difficult affair because the Hamas leaders are very brave when it comes to putting the citizens of Gaza in danger. They're telling them don't move, despite the fact that the IDF has told them to move. And they're putting the Gazans, the Gazan population in danger. They're very brave at doing that. They're far less brave by appearing themselves. They're stuck deep underground. And you can rest assured where they are. There is electricity. There is water. There is fuel. There is anything they need to be there for quite some time. But Israel is sending a message. We're after you. We'll get you. And it has begun. And there was a limited ground operation into Gaza last night, wasn't there, Jonathan? Yes, very limited. We have to say a ground incursion, a few tens of meters or hundreds of meters into Gaza, mainly to gather information that could help perhaps with the look for hostages and also to make sure that there are no terror squads waiting inside the Gazan territory to infiltrate into Israel through the various holes that still exist in the fence. There was some kind of incursion. Yes, is it the ground incursion far from it? And what about signs that tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians, hundreds of thousands, I should say, the IDF says, are moving south in Gaza, heeding that warning from the IDF? Yes, many are moving south, understanding that a very strong response from the IDF, whether from the air or from the ground, will eventually come. Hamas is trying to stop that to first psychologically telling Hamas, telling its own citizens that all this information is psychological warfare from Israel and also actually putting roadblocks to try and prevent Gazans from moving. As I said, they're very brave when it comes to their civilians' life, much less brave when it comes to their own lives. All right, Jonathan, thank you. Jonathan Regev there at the border with Gaza. Well, another video of one of the terrorists, the Hamas terrorists, who was captured alive in southern Israel on Saturday, has been released by the Israeli security forces. You can see for yourself now. Admitting on camera what atrocities were committed a week ago, well, one of the many, many Israelis who have been affected by those atrocities committed by Hamas terrorists last week joins us now. Abi On, thank you for being with us. It's incredibly hard what you're going through. Can you tell us a bit about your situation? Tell us what happened. Yes, thank you for having me. Last Saturday, it's unbelievable that it's a week ago already. We woke at 6.30 to sirens for the most part across the country. We have family all over Israel. And when we came back from the bomb shelter, we began checking in with the rest of our family. We started getting messages from our family in the south. They live on Kibbutz near Oz, which is very, very close to the Gaza border. When the sirens go off, they stay in their shelter because of the proximity. And they began telling us that Hamas had infiltrated not only the border, but that they were in their Kibbutz, that they could hear them in the house turning everything upside down. They could hear gunfire and that they were afraid for their lives that felt like a Holocaust for them. We lost contact with them around 11 or 12 in the morning. We believe maybe the army asked them to turn their phones off so that they wouldn't be points of identification. And we didn't hear anything from them. We haven't heard anything from the five of them. There are five. Carmela is 80. She's there with three of her grandchildren, 12-year-old Noia, who has special needs, 16-year-old Sahar, 12-year-old Eris, sorry, 13-year-old Noia, who has special needs, and 16-year-old Sahar. They are there with their father, Ofir, who is 53. And on Sunday, we got Hamas uploaded a video with Eris, who is 12, in their hands, in the hands of terrorists. My goodness. I'm so sorry. What are the authorities advising you? What advice are you getting? We're working very closely, both with the government of the United States because Carmela is American and with the French government as all five of them are French. And we are very, very grateful both to the U.S. and to the French government for the help that they're giving us. We are doing everything we can to work with governmental authorities and with any third parties. Our main press right now is to get citizens, both of France, the United States and all other countries, to pressure their governments, to pressure Hamas, to get humanitarian aid in. It is against the Geneva Convention. It is a war crime to hold hostage elderly people and children, especially children with special needs. There are people there that are wounded and need their medicine. These are very, very dire needs. And without releasing the hostages, it only becomes worse for the citizens of Gaza who also need humanitarian aid. How do you feel, Abby, when you hear these humanitarian groups decrying the situation for the civilians of Gaza, but you're not hearing any calls for the hostages to be released? I feel as a Jew who was born in America and lives in Israel, like we have said, never again our whole lives and it is happening. That we are experiencing a Holocaust and a pogrom and a terror wrapped in one. And I believe as a terrorist organization, Hamas not only grains terror on the citizens of my country and my family, but they are holding their own citizens hostage and it is terror for all of us. Abby, you're incredibly strong. What is getting you through this? How do you keep going? I have an amazing husband and family and beyond that, the Jewish community globally and within Israel unfortunately knows how to come together in these moments. And the amount of funds raised and gear flown in and food brought in support for our soldiers who are defending us is the thing that is giving me hope. And I believe our only choice right now is hope. We have tried to erase this before and we are here. We will continue to be here. We are people who believe in peace, who believe that this is not the Israeli Palestinian issue, that this is an issue of terror. I lived in the United States on 9-11 and we stood then against ISIS and we stand now against Hamas. All right. Thank you very much. Abby, on and everyone in the country is praying for you and hoping for a good outcome to this nightmarish scenarios that nobody should have to go through. Abby, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Danny, there are no words for heartbreaking that is a 12-year-old child, a grandmother, somebody with special needs, completely mercilessly taken by Hamas terrorists. Well, it's beyond words. But yet, you know, with all this darkness, you know, when you see, you know, the lady misses on here, that gives you not only hope but strength. And I think this is really the Jewish spirit whereby, you know, and again, we have been seared, unfortunately, by 2,000 years and more of trials and tribulations, you know, culminated with the Holocaust just less than 80 years ago. So we know, you know, we know, we have been beaten but we always came back. And this is the same situation now. We'll come back and we are coming back. And of course, it's not just Israelis. There are many foreign nationals being held among the hostages, which does mean that other governments are involved in, I think this is one of the worst hostage situations in history, in affecting multiple countries. I mean, will there be a tense at some kind of negotiation? Well, you're right. I think it's unprecedented in the scope, you know, so many people. But it's not just the scope in the terms of the number of hostages, but also who they are. It's the first time we see babies, 85-year-old ladies. It's just incredible. And yes, everybody, you know, governments are involved. Whether this will be helpful or not, you know, with the Hamas, you never know. But it is very important to keep the pressure. And if now, anyone, and you mentioned it, that, you know, how do we feel when people are calling us, you know, on the humanitarian situation in Gaza? I mean, we don't want any harm for the people of Gaza, not at all. But when Hamas is in charge there, and before they talk about any humanitarian situation, the demand should be released to hostages before anything else. And of course, Hamas is trying to win the communications, the media war by not only making sure as many of its own civilians are killed as possible, but also kind of trying to play a psychological game with Israel that they have the hostages there as well. Yes. But I think they have overplayed their cards. You know, we remember Gilat Shalit. By the way, for Gilat Shalit, Israel paid dearly with 1,400 mass, you know, with murders. By the way, the top guy that was released for Gilat Shalit, Yahe Sinwar, is the leader of Hamas now. Who is also the one organizing what we have seen? So I think we will change. We will change the rules of the games now, whereby we'll do everything to release the hostages, but not at the cost of our lives. Destroy Hamas. That's the number one goal. I think so. I think so, yeah. Well, the death toll in Gaza now stands at, according to Hamas, 2,215. And those figures are released. I stress by the Hamas-controlled Gaza health ministry, it is a figure that does not distinguish between terrorist and civilian deaths. It's important to bear that in mind. It is in the interest, of course, of Hamas to have a high civilian death toll, because Hamas wants to sway the international community into pressuring Israel, into stopping its campaign to destroy Hamas. Well, one example of Hamas propaganda they released, but then quickly deleted this video. It clearly shows a plastic doll being pulled from the rubble and passed off as a dead child. So they posted that video and then they quickly deleted it when they realized what they had done and that nobody would be fooled by that. And outrageously enough, real pictures of murdered and massacred babies on the Israeli side have been released. There is pressure from the United Nations, not from the United States. We saw that very strong statement of support from Lloyd Austin, the U.S. Defense Secretary here in Israel yesterday, saying Hamas was in fact worse than ISIS. The UN, however, is a very different organization and it is already trying to put the pressure on Israel to stop this campaign. Yeah, but at this point, Laura, they're irrelevant. As long as we have the United States on our side, the UN is irrelevant. And we know this is the most hypocritical and the most cynical body since its inception on the ruins of the old League of Nations before World War II. They have done nothing to prevent hunger, to prevent wars and refugees all over the world. And we should not heed to anything they say, just focus on our friends and allies, first and foremost, the United States, but also the Western countries, which also are on our side, namely United Kingdom and France, which are also members of the Security Council. And they are the ones together supporting the United States can prevent any unwanted step against Israel. And just a reminder before we go of the top latest developments, the IDF says that two senior Hamas commanders have been killed in targeted strikes. That includes the commander who led the brutal onslaught on the southern communities of Israel a week ago today. The IDF also says that the latest drone infiltration alert in the north was a false alarm, important to point out. The IDF has already destroyed another attempted infiltration, three terrorists killed. As Danny points out, Hamas is and Hezbollah are trying to show in a limited way solidarity with what's going on in Gaza. You've got the Iranian Foreign Minister, of course, in Beirut right now as well, saying that his proxies are ready to join the fight. The United States yesterday, the Defence Secretary here in a strong message, said to those forces, one word, don't. We'll keep you updated here on I-24 News with all the very latest. Do you stay with us? Follow us as Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north. Join I-24 News for the real story of what's going on. So you're watching I-24 News and we're coming to you live from Tel Aviv. It is day eight of Israel's war with Hamas and it's exactly a week since thousands of Israelis were murdered, injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country. As Israel continues to identify and bury its dead, the IAF is pounding Gaza with air strikes and the IAF has now confirmed that two senior Hamas commanders have been killed, the head of the group's aerial force and the commander who plotted last week's massacre. The IAF says that hundreds of thousands of Gaza civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of Hamas to prevent them from leaving. The Egyptian media outlet Madin Massar is reporting that Egypt is closing the Rafah crossing with concrete barriers. At the same time senior Egyptian officials say that Egypt, Israel and the United States have agreed to allow foreigners who live in Gaza to pass through that same crossing. While in the West Bank security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians including some 120 Hamas supporters and Israelis have been taking shelter today after a barrage of rockets were fired at central Israel no casualties were reported. Up in the north on the border with Lebanon the IDF has published footage of a drone strike on a terrorist cell which attempted to infiltrate Israel. Three terrorists were killed in the strike close to the northern town of Magaliot speaking from Beirut. The Iranian Foreign Minister says its proxies in the region including Hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by Israel. The United States largest aircraft carrier is in the region. The United States has warned Hezbollah not to get involved between 150 and 200 hostages. Most of them Israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in Gaza. Well that is where we are this hour with the latest updates. We can go now to the border with Gaza our correspondent Jonathan Regev is there. Jonathan the two senior Hamas commanders now killed that's been confirmed by the IDF. Yes and that is part of the IDF policy now everyone related to Hamas must die loud and clear. There's no political wing there's no military wing there's no any other wing. They're all on the wanted list and they all should die from top to bottom and anyone who's found will be killed. The reason why we're not seeing this masses of leaders killed is simply because these the Hamas leaders are very brave when it comes to putting the Gaza residents in danger they do not allow them to be evicted to evict themselves further south for example they put them in danger they shoot from civilian locations for that the very brave for themselves they're not as brave that is why they're hiding deep deep down in tunnels under Gaza they you can rest rest assured they have fuel they have water they have electricity they have everything needed but if they pop once they pop out they will die as happened to these two senior officials. And stay with me Jonathan but I just want to point out there have been rockets sirens in Bershava in the south also in Ashkelon in the south and also in Laquia I believe as well so sirens going off across the south meanwhile Jonathan inside Gaza the IDF says hundreds of thousands of Gaza civilians are listening to those warnings from the IDF and they are heading south towards the Rafa crossing. Yes they are heading south because the area of the northern Gaza Strip will will become probably a war site very soon and they will be safe to leave the IDF has instructed those residents to go through two safe passages from 10 in the morning till 4 in the afternoon and many people are listening to those calls others are are are still staying in Gaza may be listening to the calls by Hamas not to head out as mentioned Hamas is very brave when it comes to sacrifice lives of others absolutely a deal has been reached Jonathan to allow foreigners to leave Gaza a deal negotiated by the United States Israel and Egypt Qatar reportedly also involved do you have any information on that and not not much apart from that headline we're talking we're speaking of Gazans with foreign nationalities there are a few hundreds maybe a few thousands of those with European nationalities they will probably be allowed to cross into Egypt through the Rafa crossing Egypt does not want any other Gazan crossing in and they're not interested in these people as well apart from those with foreign nationalities the Gazans will stay there hostage to Hamas as well all right Jonathan thank you Jonathan Regev there well with me in the studio Dr. David Shimoni is from Commanders for Israel security thank you very much for being with us at a very busy time so a significant strike against Hamas two senior commanders can feel confirmed dead how does this affect the terrorist groups operations it's a complicated question because it affects the morale of the Hamas troops it affects the chain of command and control but we saw that on Saturday's attack there were small units operating independently and these small units I believe are capable of still striking and still firing rockets even in the absence of these senior commanders but people look for leadership at times of pressure you can say the same thing about the citizens of Israel and if the leadership is hit injured killed then this will affect the morale of the of the fighting Hamas troops and they are under significant pressure give us an idea of the scale of the IAF air strikes or Gaza well as far as we know the major strikes for five days now six days in a row I don't know if our audience has ever been under attack by aircraft it's terrible it's frightening its buildings are exploding the roads are blocked many many people are killed and injured it has a very very big psychological effect and of course also damaging infrastructure and the ability of the Hamas to control what's going on I'd like to stress that we're waging a war against the military capabilities of Hamas not against the civilians of Gaza who are suffering who are being victims of the of the same regime of Hamas that overtook them in 2006 we're trying to to restrict our operations to military targets the idea and the what we hear from the chief of staff and from the prime minister and from the minister of defense is that we are trying to dismantle the Hamas militarily to disintegrate their their forces and unfortunately there's a huge civilian population in the city of Gaza in the Gaza Strip who are victims as well as just like we are yeah well that's there that's part of their strategy Hamas isn't it that's well known they try and get as many civilians killed as possible let's talk about the risk inside Israel and in the Palestinian territories 280 Palestinians have been arrested in the West Bank in the last few days what is the risk of of an outburst of violence terrorist attacks that kind of thing in Israel and in the territories the risk is enormous first of all we have to remember that on saturday morning when the Hamas attack began most of the Israeli regular fighting forces were in the West Bank were not in the Gaza Strip near the Gaza Strip and they were absent and the reason that so many troops were in the West Bank is that the West Bank is very very explosive and naturally if they decide also if Israeli settlers decide to ignite the West Bank then we will need many many troops and forces and efforts and and attention of our commanders to the West Bank and as we know there are extremists in the West Bank who are trying to to ignite the situation there I hope it will not explode I think if we're reporting that over 200 people were arrested nearly 300 okay nearly 300 were arrested that should be an attempt to calm down the situation there and to to avoid escalation by by the Palestinian population I hope same measures are taken also against extremist Israeli settlers in that area a lot of comparisons are being made with what happened last saturday and the holocaust or pogroms it's important though isn't it to remind people that Israel has a very strong army israel is a country it also has the unwavering support of the world's strongest military might I think the the evidence we get from what happened on saturday the testimonies of settlers of israeli kibbutzniks people from the road are really reminding us of what we heard from the holocaust people helpless people screaming for help and nobody is there nobody is there especially the state of israel because in the holocaust we didn't have a state we didn't have an army we didn't have a government and nobody could protect the jews and it's another subject about the intervention of the world in the holocaust but in this case the state of israel was not there for these people for many many hours and there's cause for many many people to be very very angry furious well actually we've got protests going on outside the defense ministry right now as some of the people who have family members missing or being held hostage in Gaza they want Benjamin Netanyahu to step down right now okay that's I think I think the main challenge for everybody now is to distinguish between our emotions and our head because even our leaders claiming revenge and we're going to destroy etc it's talking from from an emotional basis and I think when we are at war as an army as a state we have to think rationally so yes I think many people will demand the prime minister to be accountable to to what happened and of course I believe he is accountable he's in charge of the whole country and of the layout of the troops and the the way the the villages and the kibbutz team were prepared and the where the army was was dispatched before this so of course there's a lot of criticism that will be dealt with after hammers has been I believe it should be dealt after he is and also that that's the strong statements from the the Israeli government which is reassuring to a certain extent for the Israeli population is also playing into the media game in the western media an example the bbc the british state broadcaster refusing to call harm us terrorists so it's it's important all of the messaging that's coming out as well isn't it very much very much again we're we're talking about politics about grand politics and nobody can if convince the bbc that what happened on saturday is terrorism then there's something wrong not with the communications but with the way the bbc comprehend what's happening some news just in a family of hostages say they've transferred medical information and medicine to the red cross because some of the people being held do have medical requirements I think that's that's very important again we're talking about a I think citizens who are organizing this effort it's civilians who are establishing headquarters with the information with medical information with diplomatic effort with legal advisers it's not only the government it's mainly civilians who are trying to take take care of this crisis okay okay David Shimani thank you very much stay with us dr. Shimani there well as the Israeli airstrikes continue in Gaza Israel has warned guards and civilians to move south to avoid being caught up in a significant military escalation the IDF says we will attack these areas meaning northern Gaza with great force as the united nations however is warning that such an evacuation will lead to a humanitarian crisis listen since last night the secretary general and his team have been working the phones he's been in constant contact with Israeli authorities urging them to revert a humanitarian catastrophe team leaders of the u.n. office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs and the department of safety and security in Gaza were informed by the Israeli liaison officers that the Israeli military in the entire population of God Gaza north of Wadi Gaza should relocate to southern Gaza within 24 hours that was that was as of midnight local time last night this amounts to approximately 1.1 million people the same order applies to apply to all u.n. staff and those sheltered in u.n. facilities including schools health centers and clinics we continue we consider it is impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences and we strongly appeal for any such order to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into calamitous situation uh david shaman we had the u.n. there putting pressure on israel to stop its campaign in Gaza i can understand their pressure again we're talking about millions of or two million uh civilians innocent civilians they uh they elected hamas many years ago in democratic elections let's you know think about democracy um and and uh they're suffering and they're under bombardment and we know now that electricity has been disconnected uh water supplies are limited and uh yes that's that's all of us here in Israel are um facing the same challenges taking care about our children and our grandchildren and being scared of the bombs the same thing in Gaza and i think uh uh if if the Israeli government encourages the civilians to leave Gaza and go south they should provide uh facilities in the south with water with electricity with should make sure that it's available there Egypt or the international or anybody but uh because there's a lot of vocal support in the Arab world for the uh gardens right now we saw protest in Baghdad san are all around the world has that has that transformed into material support of any kind as far as i know no not not yet not yet okay stay with us david just some news just in um a 19 year old um Arab citizen of Israel uh Majed ibrahim he was 19 years old he has died from his injuries he was critically wounded when a rocket fired by Gaza uh landed in the town of Abu Ghosh near Jerusalem earlier in the week just a reminder that uh Jews Arabs Christians um uh and uh all the different people who live in Israel are affected by the rocket fire which the rockets do not discriminate all right well let's uh head to the north of israel now because of course uh there is a concern that hezbollah uh is preparing to join the conflict despite a firm warning from the united states yesterday not to uh robert swift is up at the northern border with lebanon rob what have we got laura just over an hour ago there was a security event where there was concern that uh aircraft had penetrated israeli skies around the community community of gornott hagalil this however has been called off and it's understood that it was a false alarm um this is one of several false alarms that have occurred in recent days with the the biggest occurring two days ago when there was concern that as many as 15 to 20 uh drones may have penetrated israeli skies now these incidents were confirmed afterwards to be false alarms but they are not they're not the only incidents involving scares around drones in the last 24 hours there have been two confirmed cases where drones did penetrate israeli skies one was an incident around one o'clock last night where three drones did cross over the lebanese border and move into israeli airspace they were shot down by israeli air defenses over the israeli city of haifa and in another incident yesterday evening uh on the east of israeli's northern border there was another incident there where a drone crossed over into israeli skies so the idea is very much on alert for these instances these instances some false alarms occurring but being understandable with the security situation as heightened as it is currently right and the hezbollah leadership says it's ready to get involved in the conflict when the time is right for now it says it will respond to any actions by israel yes it has indeed it's been making similar statements similar tone all week long it also referred to uh indirectly to the us warships that were moving into areas saying that it would be undeterred by them essentially hezbollah has been continuing these skirmishes throughout the week uh people's question really is do they intend to do anything more skirmishes along the border the heavy presence of israeli military here they can handle that but the thing that people want to know is does hezbollah have bigger greater intentions than this does it really intend to enter the conflict or is it merely essentially trying to keep up appearances by continuing these skirmishes for the moment uh you know they haven't crossed that threshold uh but we wait to see if they do so remind us um what we're dealing with here rob in terms of the size of hezbollah in terms of the number of fighters the number of rockets that kind of thing sure so hezbollah are essentially an order of magnitude more dangerous to israel than chamas and we've all seen in the last week how much damage chamas can do uh hezbollah you know they have some reports say they have up to a hundred thousand fighters they have a rocket and a missile arsenal which is in which is larger than many western armies it's a weapon system that they understand can be extremely damaging to israel and so they've stocked up on it the last time they had a significant conflict with israel was in 2006 where you know the israeli communities throughout the whole of the north of israel really felt how damaging that uh that arsenal could be and bear in mind they have been re-equipping since that moment and technology particularly around the area of drones has massively increased since that time so they are very much not an enemy who should be underestimated all right robert thank you robert swift there at the northern border uh dr david shimoni is still with me from uh commanders for israel security just if you would react to what you just heard there i think again going back to uh saturday and the chamas the concept in israel was that the chamas is deterred and they will not initiate any oscillities and uh if if we maintain the same concept about the hezbollah i think we should be much more cautious about that uh we can inflict a lot of damage to hezbollah but they can they can paralyze israel they can paralyze israel for a week or two weeks by the huge amount of of missiles of rockets i think the major threat to israel now from the hezbollah is is double one is the precision guided missiles that they have which means they can hit israeli infrastructure uh air bases which hamas does not have hamas does not have them hamas uses what we call statistical weapons in other words if fire a lot and some of them hit hezbollah hezbollah is being equipped with a precision guided missiles they can hit uh with great precision the second danger is what we saw on saturday from uh from hamas hezbollah has a big a ground force called raduan red one force uh thousands of fighters very well equipped and trained whose mission is very similar to what we've seen on saturday to infiltrate israel by uh by land by sea by air and to take over bases and uh and settlements so there's a big threat over there the united states has warned them not to get involved we've got this the world's largest aircraft carrier just off the shores of israel more help is on the way um at what point would the americans get involved do you think i think uh the the president biden made it clear that israeli is protected by by america and the united states will not allow israeli to fall uh i think they their presence in the middle east is very good for us but in a way i also believe it's a way for the american government to control israel and to see that the decisions that are made by our leaders are rational are the right amount of force used so but i believe that the presence of a huge american carrier with tens of fighters and bombers is is a big big game changer if things escalate in the north um it's a week since the most terrible atrocities perpetrated against the jewish people since the holocaust lots of people are still reeling from that they're in shock they're trying to get their heads around what happened um you were talking about how comparisons with the holocaust have inevitably been made and how today the situation is different israel does have a state and it does have an army so when the state of israel was established there was a slogan never again it will not happen to us again and it did and it did in spite of our government and state and rules and and military uh and i think uh when the war is over the citizens of israel will demand answers how come it happened again because what we saw on saturday is really pictures that we saw or our parents saw and grandparents saw in the holocaust babies slaughtered uh women raped uh terrible cruelty and uh it happened to us with all our might and all our high tech and with all our industries it happened to us and it shouldn't have and we should ask ourselves what brought it to us and there will definitely be a lot of questions asked um once this war uh is won israel has no choice but to win it does it israel will win israel is a very strong country the people are very strong uh i i think uh i i believe you've been reporting about uh hundreds thousands of israelis coming in from overseas israelis who are studying uh overseas who are making a lot of money they left everything and they're coming here to join and to fight i believe they're coming here to fight not for the government but for their friends for the people of their platoons and companies for their parents and and they would fight nobody in the in the middle east will be able to overcome israeli power do you think hamas and indeed iran has underestimated the resolve of the israelis and indeed the reaction of the almost the entire international community i believe they did because first of all they they uh the hamas had a success that i don't think they envisage such an enormous in in their eyes success so many casualties so much damage and uh i'm not sure that that in the past uh decades they've been hit the way they're being hit now which means maybe they estimated that would have a few days of bombing and it would be over but as far as our leaders are broadcasting the attempt is now or the idea now is to destroy them and i don't think they expected that okay dr davis shimoni thank you very much indeed great to talk to you well before we go just a reminder of the latest details this hour the idea has confirmed that two senior hamas military leaders have been killed in targeted strikes on gaza and that includes the hamas commander who planned the raid on uh southern israel a week ago um so there have been uh as well um uh comments from hezbollah saying that they will get involved when the time is right um as yet no signs uh that they're uh willing to do that we will keep you updated uh on all the very latest news stay with us this is i24 news coming to you live on television goodbye officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking more than a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity it is natural from the beginning from the fish to the production of food from the plants because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure the weight or the water above your head we are able to save energy one news and we're coming to you live from telepathy it is day eight of israel's war with hamas and it's exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country as israel continues to identify and bury its dead the iaf is pounding garver with airstrikes and the idf has now confirmed that two senior hamas commanders have been killed the head of the group's aerial force and the commander who plotted last week's massacre the idf says that hundreds of thousands of guards and civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to prevent them from leaving the egyptian media outlet mavin maso is reporting that egypt is closing the rafa crossing with concrete barriers at the same time senior egyptian officials say that egypt israel and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners who live in gaza to pass through that same crossing while in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including some 120 hamas supporters and israelis have been taking shelter today after a barrage of rockets were fired at central israel no casualties were reported up in the north on the border with lebanon the idf has published footage of a drone strike on a terrorist cell which attempted infiltrate israel three terrorists were killed in the strike close to the northern town of magalia speaking from beirut the iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel the united states largest aircraft carrier is in the region the united states has warned hezbollah not to get involved between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in gaza well that is where we are this hour with the latest updates we can go now to the border with gaza our correspondent jonathan regov is there jonathan the two senior hamas commanders now killed that's been confirmed by the idf yes and that is part of the idf policy now everyone related to hamas must die loud and clear there's no political wing there's no military wing there's no any other wing they're all on the wanted list and they all should die from top to bottom and anyone who's found will be killed the reason why we're not seeing this masses of leaders killed is simply because these the the hamas leaders are very brave when it comes to putting the gaza residents in danger they do not allow them to be evicted to to evict themselves further south for example they put them in danger they shoot from civilian locations for that the very brave for themselves they're not as brave that is why they're hiding deep deep down in tunnels under gaza they you can rest rest assured they have fuel they have water they have electricity they have everything needed but if they pop once they pop out they will die as happened to these two senior officials and stay with me jonathan but i just want to point out there have been rockets sirens in belceva in the south also in ashkelon in the south and also in lakia i believe as well so sirens going off across the south meanwhile jonathan inside gaza the idf says hundreds of thousands of gaza the civilians are listening to those warnings from the idf and they are heading south towards the raffa crossing yes they are heading south because the area of the northern gaza strip will will become probably a war site very soon and they will be safe to leave the idf has instructed those residents to go through two safe passages from 10 in the morning till four in the afternoon and many people are listening to those calls others are are are still staying in gaza may be listening to the calls by hamas not to head out as mentioned hamas is very brave when it comes to sacrifice lives of others absolutely a deal has been reached jonathan to allow foreigners to leave gaza a deal negotiated by the united states um israel and egypt katar reportedly also involved do you have any information on that and not not much apart from that headline we're talking we're speaking of gazans with foreign nationalities there are a few hundreds maybe a few thousands of those with european nationalities they will probably be allowed to cross into egypt through the raffa crossing egypt does not want any other gaza crossing in they're not interested in these people as well apart from those with foreign nationalities the gazans will stay there hostage to hamas as well all right jonathan thank you jonathan reggae there well with me in the studio dr david shimoni is from commanders for israel security thank you very much for being with us at a very busy time um so a significant strike against hamas two senior commanders can feel confirmed dead how does this affect the terrorist groups operations it's a complicated question because uh it affects the morale of the hamas troops uh it affects the chain of command and control but we saw that on saturday's attack there were small units operating independently and these small units i believe are capable of still striking and still firing rockets uh even in the absence of these senior commanders but uh people look for leadership at times of pressure you can say the same thing about the citizens of israel and if the leadership is uh hit uh injured uh killed then this will affect the morale of the of the fighting hamas troops and they are under significant pressure give us an idea of the scale of the iaf uh air strikes or gaza well as far as we know uh the major strikes for five days now six days in a row um i don't know if our audience has ever been under attack by aircraft uh it's terrible it's frightening its buildings are exploding the roads are blocked many many people are killed and injured it has a very very big psychological effect and of course also uh damaging infrastructure and the ability of the hamas to control what's going on uh i'd like to stress that we're waging a war against the military capabilities of hamas not against the civilians of gaza who are suffering who are uh being victims of the uh of the same regime of hamas that overtook them uh in 2006 we're trying to uh to restrict our operations to military targets uh the idea and the uh what we hear from the chief of staff and from the prime minister and from the minister of defense is that we are trying to dismantle the hamas militarily uh to disintegrate their their forces and uh unfortunately there's a huge uh civilian population in the city of gaza in the gaza strip who are victims as as well as just like we are yeah well that's their that's part of their strategy hamas isn't it that's well known they try and get as many civilians killed as possible let's talk about um uh the risk inside israel and in the palestinian territories um 280 palestinians have been arrested in the west bank in the last few days um what is the risk um of of uh an outburst of violence uh terrorist attacks that kind of thing in israel and in the territories the risk is enormous uh first of all we have to remember that on saturday morning when the hamas attack began most of the israeli regular fighting forces were in the west bank were not in the gaza near the gaza strip and they were absent and um the reason that so many troops were in the west bank is that the west bank is very very explosive and naturally if if they decide also if israeli settlers decide to ignite the west bank then we will need many many troops and and forces and efforts and um and uh attention of our commanders to the west bank and as we know there are extremists in the west bank who are trying to to ignite the situation there i hope it will not explode i think if we're reporting that uh over 200 people were arrested nearly 300 okay nearly 300 were arrested that should be an attempt to calm down the situation there and to to avoid escalation uh by uh by the palestinian population i hope same measures are taken also against uh extremists really uh settlers in that area a lot of comparisons are being made um with what happened last saturday and the holocaust or pogroms um it's important though isn't it to remind people that israel has a very strong army israel is a country it also has the unwavering support of the world's strongest military might i think the uh the uh evidence we get from what happened on saturday the testimonies of settlers of israeli uh kibbutzniks uh people from the road uh are really reminding us of what we heard from the holocaust people helpless people screaming for help and nobody is there nobody is there especially the state of israel because in the holocaust we didn't have a state we didn't have an army we didn't have a government and nobody could protect the jews and uh it's another subject about the intervention of the world in the holocaust but in this case uh the state of israel was not there or for these people for many many hours and there's a cause for many many people to be very very angry furious well actually we've got protests going on outside the defense ministry right now as some of the people who have family members missing or being held hostage in gaza they want benjamin snr who just stepped down right now okay that's i think i think the main uh challenge for everybody now is to distinguish between our emotions and our head because even our leaders uh claiming revenge and we're going to destroy etc it's talking from from an emotional basis and i think uh when we are at war as an army as a state we have to think rationally so yes i think many people will demand the prime minister to be accountable to to what happened and of course i believe he is accountable he is in charge of the whole country and of the layout of the of the troops and the the way the the villages and the kibbutz team were prepared and the uh where the army was uh was dispatched before this so of course there's a lot of criticism of that will be dealt with after hamas has been i believe it should be dealt after he is and also that um that's the the strong statements from the the israeli government which is reassuring to a certain extent for the israeli population is also playing into the media game in the western media an example the bbc the british state broadcaster refusing to call hamas terrorist uh so it's uh it's important all of the messaging that's coming out as well isn't it very much very much again we're we're uh talking about politics about grand politics and uh nobody can uh if convince the bbc that what happened on saturday is terrorism then there's something wrong not with the communications but with the the way the bbc comprehend what's happening uh some news just in uh family of hostages say they've transferred medical information and medicine to the red cross because uh some of the people people being held do have uh medical requirements i think that's that's very important again we're talking about a uh i think citizens uh who are organizing this effort uh it's the civilians who are uh establishing headquarters uh with the information with medical information with diplomatic effort with legal advisors it's not only the government it's mainly uh civilians who are trying to uh take take care of this crisis okay well okay david shimani thank you very much stay with this dr shimani there well um as the israeli airstrikes continue in gaza israel has warned gazon civilians to move south uh to avoid being caught up in a significant uh military escalation the idf says we will attack these areas meaning north and gaza with great force uh the united nations however is warning that such an evacuation will lead to a humanitarian crisis listen since last night the secretary general and his team have been working the phones uh he's been in constant contact with israeli authorities urging them to avert a humanitarian catastrophe team leaders of the un office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs and the department of safety and security in gaza were informed by the israeli liaison officers that the israeli military in the entire population of god gaza north of wadi gaza should relocate to southern gaza within 24 hours that was that was as of midnight local time last night uh this amounts to approximately 1.1 million people uh the same order applies to apply to all un staff and those sheltered in un facilities including schools health centers and clinics um we continue we consider it is impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences and we strongly appeal for any such order to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into calamitous situation uh david shaman we heard the un there putting pressure on israel to stop its campaign in gaza i can understand their pressure again we're talking about millions of or two million civilians innocent civilians they uh they elected hamas many years ago in democratic elections let's you know think about democracy um and and uh they're suffering and they're under bombardment and we know now that electricity has been disconnected uh water supplies are limited and uh yes that's that's uh all of us here in israel are um facing same challenges taking care of our children and our grandchildren and being scared of the bombs same thing in gaza and i think uh if if the israeli government encourages the civilians to leave gaza and go south they should provide uh facilities in the south with water with electricity with should make sure that it's available there to make sure egypt or the international egypt or or anybody but uh because there's a lot of vocal support in the arab world for the uh gardens right now we saw protest in bagdad san are all around the world has that has that transformed into material support of any kind as far as i know no not yet not yet okay stay with us david um just some news just in um a 19-year-old um arab citizen of israel uh majed ibrahim he was 19 years old he has died from his injuries he was critically wounded when a rocket fired by gaza uh landed in the town of abogosh near jerusalem earlier in the week just a reminder that uh jews arabs christians um uh and uh all the different people who live in israel are affected uh by the rocket fire which the rockets do not discriminate all right well let's uh head to the north of israel now because of course uh there is a concern that hezbollah uh is preparing to join the conflict despite a firm warning from the united states yesterday not to uh robert swift is up at the northern border with lebanon rob what have we got laura just over an hour ago there was a security event where there was concern that our aircraft had penetrated israeli skies around the community community of gornott hagalil this however has been called off and it's understood that it was a false alarm and this is one of several false alarms that have occurred in recent days with the the biggest occurring uh two days ago when there was concern that as many as 15 to 20 uh drones may have penetrated israeli skies now these incidents were confirmed afterwards to be false alarms but uh they are not they're not the only incidents involving scares around drones in the last 24 hours there have been two confirmed cases where drones did penetrate israel's skies uh one was an incident uh around one o'clock last night where three drones did uh cross over the lebanese border and move into israeli air sprays uh they were shot down by israeli air defenses over the israeli city of haifa and in another incident yesterday evening uh on the east of israel's northern border there was another incident there where a drone crossed over into israel's skies so the idea is very much on alert for these incidents these instances some false alarms occurring but being understandable with the security situation as heightened as it is currently right and the hezbollah leadership says it's ready to get involved in the conflict when the time is right for now it says it will respond to any actions by israel yes it has indeed it's been making similar statements similar tone all week long uh it also referred to uh indirectly to the uh us warships that were moving into areas saying that it would be undeterred by them uh essentially hezbollah has been continuing these skirmishes throughout the week uh people's question really is do they intend to do anything more uh skirmishes along the border the heavy presence of israeli military here they can handle that but the thing that people want to know is does hezbollah have bigger greater intentions than this does it really intend to enter the conflict or is it merely essentially trying to keep up appearances by continuing these skirmishes for the moment uh you know they haven't crossed that threshold uh but we wait to see if they do so remind us um what we're dealing with here rob in terms of the size of hezbollah in terms of the number of fighters the number of rockets that kind of thing sure so hezbollah are essentially an order of magnitude more dangerous to israel than chamas and we've all seen in the last week how much damage chamas can do uh hezbollah you know they have some reports say they have up to a hundred thousand fighters they have a rocket and a missile arsenal which is in which is larger than many western armies it's a weapon system that they understand can be extremely damaging to israel and so they've stocked up on it the last time they had a significant conflict with israel was in 2006 where you know the israeli communities throughout the whole of the north of israel really felt how damaging that uh that arsenal could be and bear in mind they have been re-equipping since that moment and technology particularly around the area of drones has massively increased since that time so they are very much not an enemy who should be underestimated all right robert thank you robert swift there at the northern border uh dr david shimoni is still with me from uh commanders for israel security just if you would react to what you just heard there i think again going back to uh saturday and the chamas the concept in israel was that the chamas is deterred and they will not initiate any oscillities and uh if if we maintain the same concept about the khizballah i think we should be much more cautious about that uh we can inflict a lot of damage to khizballah but they can uh they can paralyze israel they can paralyze israel for a week or two weeks by the huge amount of uh of missiles of rockets i think the major threat to israel now from the khizballah is is uh double uh one is the precision guided missiles that they have which means they can hit israeli infrastructure uh air bases which hamas does not have hamas do not have them hamas uses what we call statistical weapons in other words if fire a lot and some of them hit khizballah is being equipped with uh a precision guided missiles they can hit uh with great precision the second danger is what we saw on saturday from from hamas khizballah has a big ground force called raduan raduan force uh thousands of fighters very well equipped and trained whose mission is very similar to what we've seen on saturday to infiltrate israel by uh by land by sea by air and to take over bases and uh and settlements so there's a big threat over there the united states has warned them not to get involved we've got this the world's largest aircraft carrier just off the shores of israel more help is on the way um at what point would the americans get involved do you think i think uh the president biden made it clear that israel is protected by by america and the united states will not allow israel to fall uh i think they their presence in the middle east is very good for us but in a way i also believe it's a way for the american government to control israel and to see that the decisions that are made by our leaders are rational are the right amount of force used so but i believe the presence of a huge american carrier with tens of fighters and bombers is a big big game changer if things escalate in the north it's a week since the most terrible atrocities perpetrated against the jewish people since the holocaust lots of people are still reeling from that they're in shock they're trying to get their heads around what happened um um you were talking about how comparisons with the holocaust have inevitably been made and how today the situation is different israel does have a state and it does have an army so when the state of israel was established there was a slogan never again it will not happen to us again and it did and it did in spite of our government and state and rules and and military and i think when the war is over the citizens of israel will demand answers how come it happened again because what we saw on saturday is really pictures that we saw while our parents saw and grandparents saw in the holocaust babies slaughtered women raped uh terrible cruelty and uh it happened to us with all our might and all our high tech and with all our industries it happened to us and it shouldn't have and we should ask ourselves what brought it to us and there will definitely be a lot of questions asked um once this war is won israel has no choice but to win it does it israel will win israel is a very strong country the people are very strong uh i think uh i i believe you've been reporting about uh hundreds thousands of israelis coming in from overseas israelis who are studying uh overseas who are making a lot of money they left everything and they're coming here to join and to fight i believe they're coming here to fight not for the government but for their friends for the people of their platoons and companies for their parents and uh and they would fight nobody in the in the middle east will be able to overcome israeli power do you think hamas and indeed iran has uh underestimated the resolve of the israelis and indeed the reaction of the almost the entire international community i believe they did because first of all they they uh the hamas had a success that i don't think they envisaged such an enormous in in their eye success so many casualties so much damage and uh i'm not sure that that in the past uh decades they've been hit the way they're being hit now and which means maybe they estimated that would have a few days of bombing and it would be over but as far as our leaders are broadcasting uh the attempt is now or the idea now is to destroy them and i don't think they expected that okay dr davis shimon thank you very much indeed great to talk to you well before we go just a reminder of the latest details this hour the idea has confirmed that two senior hamas military leaders have been killed in targeted strikes on gaza and that includes the hamas commander who planned the raid on southern israel a week ago so there have been as well um uh comments from hezbollah saying that they will get involved when the time is right um as yet no signs uh that they're uh willing to do that we will keep you updated uh on all the very latest news stay with us this is i-24 news coming to you live from television goodbye over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing we bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what hamas did follow us as israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north join i-24 news for the real story of what's going on more thanks for joining us you're watching i-24 news we're coming to you live from televieve on this day eight of israel's war with hamas it is exactly one week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country as israel continues to identify and bury its dead the israeli air force is pounding gaza with airstrikes two senior hamas commanders have been confirmed killed by the idf the commander who heads the group's aerial force and also the commander who plotted last week's massacre they are both dead the idf said hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them from leaving and in the last few minutes the u.s secretary of state antony blinkin has urged for the protection of civilians on both sides amid a green light for an israeli ground incursion while israel egypt uh and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners residing in gaza to pass through the raffa border crossing into egypt in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including dozens of hamas supporters and israelis have been taking shelter this morning after a barrage of rockets fired at central and southern israel no casualties reported up in the north on the board with lebanon the idf has published footage of a drone strike on a terrorist cell which attempted to infiltrate israel the terrorists were all killed all three of them and speaking from beirut the iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and still between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in gaza the families of the hostages say they have now handed over medical information and medicine to the red cross in the hopes that it reaches their loved ones all right thank you for being with us that's just a round up of all the very latest developments as we continue our coverage of this day eight israel's what with hamas we're joining me in the studio at lieutenant colonel don avid talif on the commander of these special forces of the idf thanks for being with us don let's talk about these uh two hamas commandos who have been taken out by the idf and will that have a significant impact on the group's capabilities going forward i think this is too much to say about terms of capability but it's a it's a signaling that we have intelligence and we can close the loop of intelligence and air for strikes which we were afraid we are losing it after this terrible setback that we had and it means that we are starting to close on them and then the question is what's the next major move that we are going to make and what would it include and when would it take place giving of course the circum the general circumstances the pressure that might amount from outside we heard blinkin about the casualties of civilians and the fact that we have to move that we have to gather our plans our intelligence and be prepared to a move because such a move would require everything that we have so we have to be very calculated and the idea of in the last few days is really preparing and gathering his intelligence and to a move which would have more significance in terms of hitting the infrastructure of hamas there was a limited ground operation into Gaza last night uh what did that yield yeah there's a more limited incursion in terms of collecting uh our missing uh or dead in the the fields the i'm sure there are many things that we don't know in terms of undercover operation and so on it's not for us to tell or to know what's up but preparing and it seems that the move must take place and the question is when and what significance and what kind of scope let's talk about the situation in the west bank and indeed inside as well 250 I think that's right yeah 280 280 Palestinians including around 120 hamas supporters have been arrested we yeah we should not forget that uh in the last year basically we had a mini war with hamas operatives and jia islamic jihad operative the west bank in the northern samaria in uh specific and we really have to make sure that hamas doesn't place hand in the west bank so I think those preliminary moves intercepting the people uh arresting them is it's a significant move that we have to make everybody that is associated with hamas and is capable of uh escalating something in the west bank has to be arrested because we really don't want the west bank to to work up in any context giving also the circumstances of gaza and we want of course the to keep the so-called alliance with the palestinian authority steady because they have to help us is that still intact is there still I think it is of course the the the images from the gaza doesn't don't help us but we shouldn't forget that hamas is an enemy of the pa that this should be clear I mean uh and by arresting those hamas operatives in the west bank we do help the palestinian authority and then we look at the north so I to the north it seems that before sorry if you don't mind before we get to the north I want to I want to keep the focus on gaza because um of course uh there is usually when we have the the normal skirmishes with hamas and gaza there is very very quickly international pressure put upon israel to pull back uh which has in the past prevented it from fully destroying hamas we've just heard uh from antony blink and the us sector state urging protection of civilians on both sides what do you read into that is that the americans starting to put a bit of pressure on israel I think america must listen to the the the criteria from different sources including the un about the civilian casualties in the gaza strip and they want to outline for us a frame of time in which we can work and operate the time is not endless and uh so this is the dilemma the idea has to work out here the idea has to be prepared we have a wall cabinet that would have to decide and make the decision and and outline the the idea of when and in what scope to operate so the the limit the the time limit is always there right giving the giving the casualties but israel won't be listening to that I think right right now no for sure but it it does it's it is an element of decision making about when to act and because we can't wait forever because those pounding have their significant they have their impact unfortunately in terms of casualties of civilians all right thanks Dorian stay with us um we want to head to israel's northern border now our uh reporter robert swift uh is there um there have been a few incidents this morning haven't there Rob uh yeah that's right it's been quite a busy uh I'd say 20 hour period with a number of security events the last couple of hours have been quiet uh with the only major event being a possible drone sighting in the the center of israel's northern border which was called off as a false alarm but that's one of only one of several incidents that occurred uh there was this morning there was an infiltration by three to four palestinian gunmen who attempted to cross the northern border in the eastern end of the the border they were struck by an israeli drone which removed that threat and during the night there was also drones crossed over on the western end of israel's northern border they were shot down by israeli air defense systems and with some shrapnel landing on the ground uh close to the israeli city of haifa these are just some of the events taking place in that 24 hour in that 20 hour period and these themselves are a continuation of the skirmishes that we've been seeing here all week long and rob this is a uh taking on an international dimension now as well of course you've got the iranian foreign minister in beirut today the hezbollah leadership says that it will participate when the time is right it says it will respond to israeli actions rather than take a proactive stance that's important isn't it yeah that's correct essentially i think people were looking at hezbollah immediately as the attacks took place on saturday concerned that they would join the fight then the fact that they didn't seems to imply that they're looking for some sort of trigger point for them to weigh these skirmishes that we're seeing at the minute rather than them being a sign that the hezbollah are about to enter it seems that that is maybe them essentially trying to keep up the pressure keep up the the the demonstration that they are involved in this in this fight but as you say there there are international implications here both with regards to iran and with the us having moved warships into the arena here all right rob thank you for now rob the swift there up at the northern border let's go to israel's southern border our jonathan reggae is close to the border with gaza where most of the action is right now jonathan tell us what's the latest so we're here in constant barrages and in constant artillery and air force action in gaza itself having said that hamas is still able to launch rockets mainly to the community zero around the gaza border but not only that we have seen hamas launched towards central israel earlier today bear sheva as well and therefore they're still holding their abilities of course the rockets are stored underground and it is it is a very quick move to surface fire and and go back underground that's where the rockets are that's where the hamas leadership is they're very quick when it comes to put other the lives of others in danger they themselves they're deep underground with water with electricity all the rest all of the humanitarian issues that we're hearing that they deal with the gaza population not with their leaders they have everything they need and israel says hundreds of thousands of palestinians are listening to their warnings and they are moving south towards the south of gaza to avoid being caught up in a very serious military situation in the north that's true the humanitarian corridor announced by the idf was was basically it was announced from the morning from 10 a.m. till 4 p.m. an hour from now what will happen an hour from now we don't exactly know i do think that that later on in the day and especially as as night time arrives we'll see much heavier action much stronger action by israel especially in that area of the northern gaza strip jonathan thank you jonathan reggae down there at the border with gaza um lieutenant colonel don avitalis still with us in the studio um let's start with uh what's happening in the north should we um uh shall we uh hezbollah saying it will intervene when the time is right it says uh i think it's important to say it will says it will respond not uh i think the emphasis of responding is important because it seemed that neither iran and oh hezbollah are interested right now in opening a northern front this is the way it seems it can change i think lebanon is in a weak position in the deterrence of the of the americans the aircraft geofraud forth coming to our area so those clear messages are sort of a dialogue in fire which was which is part of the part of the battlefield but i it seemed that this is not in the east interest and this says something about the kama strategy because if kama strategy in the beginning was that this would be the beginning of an unfolding uh some bigger escalation and an opening of fronts in the west bank and in the northern border in the meantime it didn't succeed so we hope it's only been a week though we should remember shouldn't we it's only been a it's only been a week since yeah exactly i mean in the long run in the long run so is there isn't taking any some provocation some event some temple mount event some event in west bank something can happen but right now this is the common wisdom but the common wisdom failed us with kama it can fail well also and there is the reassurance of course of the americans sending their largest aircraft carrier the americans have directly uh warned his well and not to get involved and the uh u.s. secretary of state actually has been meeting with the saudi foreign minister uh today as he continues his whirlwind tour of the region um uh he says blinkin says that israel is uh pursuing its legitimate right to defend its people um and he also says uh that none of us want to see suffering by civilians on uh either side whether it's in israel or gaza so that's antony blinkin there in saudi arabia all right well um a week um after the most horrendous atrocities perpetrated against the jewish people since the holocaust uh israel is still identifying uh burying its dead trying to find the missing trying to uh find out who is being held in gaza um um an ongoing never-ending nightmare for millions of people um joining us now millett benheim is a survivor uh from the nova music festival which was attacked by hamas terrorists uh last saturday thanks for being with us millett what's your story thank you um it's been exactly one week uh i was at the party we uh got the music to stop at 6 30 we're really confused we started seeing rockets in the sky um and we just started running laying on the ground trying to understand what we can do um after a few minutes we realized we have to to run away we didn't have any shelters it's a open field kind of party uh we're very beautiful happy loving people um we got into the car started driving but we went one way and we had a terrorist shooting at us we went the other way and we had terrorists waiting for us as well um we got out of the car we realized we have to start just running for our lives we ran to the fields um yeah i know it's hard but we didn't have any place to hide every every every place we ran to we had people shooting at us um we saw a lot of people falling down we we don't know some of them probably um dead some of them are kidnapped um raped everything that you hear about we found this um hitting spot in the bushes and we yeah uh just we're looking sorry to interrupt you we're looking at a video it's gone we were looking at a video where they they shot bullets at a line of uh those portable toilets just to make sure there were no survivors just one of the many many signs of of cruelty uh that they that they carried out how how did you get away millette um i was hiding in the bushes with uh three other girls uh we covered ourselves with leaves and we tried to talk to the police they didn't answer for a long time and once they did they told us that we are on our own because there is so many people who's been murdered and kidnapped right now um um and then we just had this um angel uh rami and another one leon to uh to all oldish people that just decided to volunteer and find us uh going by car on their own yeah because they got connected to us yeah we had to yeah lots of israeli heroes they they heard what was going on they they jumped in their cars and they drove straight towards the danger didn't they with no regard for their own lives a lot of them are dead now leon as well he got murdered uh there is parents that came to save their kids and died on the way of doing that we're all devastated yeah we're all in it together it's it's it's horrible to to hear no no one should have to go through that millette how are you how are you coping a week on it must be very difficult day today um every day is difficult because we keep hearing even now while i'm talking to you i can see my phone they just told me that another friend um died we just keep hearing more and more about stories like that um it's it's impossible it's it is it's it is there are no words to describe it i'm so sorry for you millette but i'm also glad that you're you're still here to tell the story to to to give you a testimony of what happened on that terrible day and i hope you i hope you find comfort with your family and your and your friends your surviving friends thank you millette thank you millette then i'm there one of the survivors of the nova music festival uh dole i mean it's you know the story is a heartbreaking and they unfold every hour you get a different story and the initiative that people took outside of them and you hear you hear that and i'm sorry i want to remain professional but i am so furious about the semantic debates going on in some western media outlets like the BBC about using the word terrorist to describe what we've just heard it's no it's a murderous brutality and it's a the scope is unimaginable and this requires us of course to get our forces together and really dismantle hamas this can't continue the question what does it mean what the magnitude i can assure you that every hamas leader either in israel or outside of israel would find himself the same way it was in the munich after they would find himself would face death i mean there's no question about that and they would be hunted to the last of them but this would require times time and effort and maybe also we won't know the full extent of what happened will we for a long time it's a long time i mean no there will be first of all we have to go through it of course and succeed in the mission ahead of us of course we'll have to investigate also what happened in our side in the military of course infrastructure for sure from intelligence to the tactical forces on the ground to yeah it's yeah and it's well still identifying the dead varying the dead but the fight back is underway israel has vowed to destroy hamas and we shouldn't think of course i'm shouldn't forget the hostage dilemma which we still is on our plate young children among the hostages babies even yeah exactly babies snatched from their mothers and being taken so a very competent general that was once my soldier nitzan alone he was appointed to be there the general that rather that would run it i wrote to him i really if there's a general that i trust in the israeli army that can do the job is nitzan and let's hope they find a way how to in the end bring the hostages back and you know obviously we're very focused on the situation here but the hamas leadership in doha yesterday called for a global day of rage against not just israelis but jews around the world and it's it's shocking to see that in paris they've had to close the louvre museum for which i lived in paris for a long time i've i've never seen that even during the gilet genre protest they've had to close the louvre museum because they're worried about the risk there are unconfirmed reports coming out of germany that pro hamas supporters have been putting the signs indicating where jews live that's okay so it's not confirmed but it's a sign of the terrifying situation in russia as well anti-semitic editorials in russian state media it it's this is proof for those who still need it that this is why jews need their own country exactly they need their own army yeah and we have to and we shouldn't forget that we have to win victory in the battlefield when we are strong when we win our victories we are respected and then we can also aid jewish communities around the world so israel has to get back to its own self and win a decisive victory in the context in which we are facing right now how long i mean i know this is the million dollar question how long do you think this military conflict could drag on floor i think it will take a long time i think we're talking more than weeks and i think in terms of hunting those hamas leaders that are spread around the world it might take years i mean we this is an open account that will have to be settled so but in terms of the gaza strip itself this is a long haul and it might take months your i think it's a long campaign yeah it's a long campaign several months okay so i can just bring you up to date with the latest on what we know so far on this day eight of israel's war with hamas it is exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered uh idjid kidnapped in that terrorist onslaught in the south of the country um the iaf is pounding gaza with airstrikes two senior hamas commanders have been confirmed killed including the commando who planned the assault on the south of israel hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians seen listening to the idf and moving south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them leaving and america is 100 behind israel the strongest army in the world they have sent numerous high-ranking government and military officials to israel in recent days along with the world's biggest aircraft carriers um in your career have you ever seen such a show of support for the american from the americans i think as an army man i always felt that the u.s with us and i think also native european union i think this is the context of our alliance but such a shows support that is bolstered by a real presence of power that's perhaps in the yom kippu war this is the land the latest historical time in which we saw it so of course you stand by us and when this is the basic alliance the western alliance which would have to combat this this this this terrible event that we are witnessing it's a psychological support as well isn't it of course of course of course but i think it's also for us to understand there were times in israel that people were undermining the the the u.s aid or the u.s alliance or the western european alliance whatever grievance says we have in the end this is our alliance u.s europe nato this is we are part of the west and this we are fighting a war which is basically also a war that is a war of the west in many in many senses and do you think the americans have got a wake-up call when it comes to iran i mean they're freezing the six billion dollars that they were paying in in exchange for the whole i think they do i mean i think i must admit that i think the way we handle the iranian issue trying to be to take the forefront we should have done it with the u.s more we are working intend them with them this is what the grievance is that i have with the policy of my government but we need the u.s together iran is iran or the whole access of iran is a global issue and in power we are part of this global issue and i think the u.s of course is spearheading this effort and we have to do it with them help them intelligence wise more sad wise whatever we do and the context in which we have to be very much worried right now is of course his balai is the biggest proxy of iran in this area and of course there's iranian militia in syria and which of course we are we are all the time monitoring and attacking when it's needed yeah yeah and of course we're talking about hezbollah saying that it is preparing to respond to any action yeah i think hezbollah they see what's happening in gaza also the atrocities in the end of course unfortunately but they didn't serve the image of hamas in the costing in the context context of the palestinian cause because hamas in the face of hamas now it's a different hamas than some people were considering before so i think hezbollah thinks twice to initiate to initiate an attack on us i'm not sure would be in their best interest sure not in the interest of lebanon and the context of the political infrastructure well as there's a country on the brink of complete economics that's already exactly so this would really create a whole new a whole new crisis for lebanon and i think everybody understand it and of course the deterrence of america stepping in into the conflict in this context with such force and such a statehood and staying is a is a clear signal to iran this country and indeed this part of the world will never be the same again will it after this event now and the truth where nobody knows what would be the far-reaching consequences of this event because the the wheels of history move after this event they would move in the direction that we have to foreseen and be very much alert too because even if hezbollah doesn't act now the escalation can be later it can be in half a year a year those historical events and historical times in which we are witnessing yeah we just have to take it day by day for now don't we and put our faith in the idea all right thank you very much doll on that retire we're going to take a break stay with us this is our 2020 over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing we bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what hamas did follow us as israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north join i-24 news for the real story of what's going on gaza we will hit the hamas we will destroy but we have our value and our culture you because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure the weight or the water above your head we're able to save energy joining us you're watching i-24 news we're coming to you live from televiv on this day eight of israel's war with hamas it is exactly one week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country as israel continues to identify and bury instead the israeli air force is pounding gaza with airstrikes two senior hamas commanders have been confirmed killed by the idf the commander who heads the group's aerial force and also the commando who plotted last week's massacre they are both dead the idf says hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them from leaving and in the last few minutes the us secretary of state antony blinkin has urged for the protection of civilians on both sides amid a green light for an israeli ground incursion while israel egypt and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners residing in gaza to pass through the raffa border crossing into egypt in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including dozens of hamas supporters and israelis have been taking shelter this morning after a barrage of rockets fired at central and southern israel no casualties reported up in the north on the board with lebanon the idf has published footage of a drone strike on a terrorist cell which attempted to infiltrate israel the terrorists were all killed all three of them and speaking from beirut the iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and still between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in gaza the families of the hostages say they have now handed over medical information and medicine to the red cross in the hopes that it reaches their loved ones all right thank you for being with us that's just a round up of all the very latest developments as we continue our coverage of this day eight israel's what with hamas we're joining me in the studio lieutenant colonel don avid talif on the commander of the special forces of the idf thanks for being with us don let's talk about these two hamas commandos who have been taken out by the idf will that have a significant impact on the group's capabilities going forward i think this is too much to say about them the capability but it's a it's a signaling that we have intelligence and we can close the loop of intelligence and air for strikes which we were afraid we are losing it after this terrible setback that we had and it means that we are starting to close on them and then the question is what's the next major move that we are going to make and what would it include and when would it take place giving of course the circum the general circumstances the pressure that might amount from outside we heard blinkin about the casualties of civilians and the fact that we have to move that we have to gather our plans our intelligence and be prepared to a move because such a move would require everything that we have so we have to be very calculated and the idf in the last few days is really preparing and gathering his intelligence and to a move which would have more significance in terms of hitting the infrastructure of hamas there was a limited ground operation into Gaza last night uh what did that yield yeah it does a more limited incursion in terms of collecting our missing or dead in the the fields i'm sure there are many things that we don't know in terms of undercover operation and so on it's not for us to tell or to know what's up but preparing and it seems that the move must take place and the question is when and what significance and what kind of scope let's talk about the situation in the west bank and indeed inside Israel 250 i think that's right 280 280 Palestinians including around 120 hamas supporters have been arrested we yeah we should not forget that uh in the last year basically we had the mini war with hamas operatives and gi islamic jihad operatives in the west bank in the northern samaria in specific and we really have to make sure that hamas doesn't place hand in the west bank so i think those preliminary moves intercepting the people arresting them is it's a significant move that we have to make everybody that is associated with hamas and is capable of escalating something in the west bank has to be arrested because we really don't want the west bank to to work up in any context giving also the circumstances of gaza and we want of course the to keep the so-called alliance with the palestinian authority steady because they have that's still intact is there still it is of course the the the images from the gaza doesn't don't help us but we shouldn't forget that hamas is an enemy of the pa that this should be clear i mean and by arresting those hamas operatives in the west bank we do help the palestinian authority and then we look at the north so i to the north it seems that sorry if you don't mind before we get to the north i want to i want to keep the focus on gaza and because of course there is usually when we have the the normal skirmishes with hamas and gaza there is very very quickly international pressure put upon israel to pull back which has in the past prevented it from fully destroying hamas we've just heard from antony blink and the us sector estate urging protection of civilians on both sides what do you read into that is that the americans starting to put a bit of pressure on israel i think america must listen to the the criteria from different sources including the un about the civilian casualties in the gaza strip and they want to outline for us a frame of time in which we can work and operate the time is not endless and so this is the dilemma the idea has to work out the idea has to be prepared we have a war cabinet that would have to decide and make the decision and and outline the the idea of when and in what scope to operate so the the limit the the time limit is always there right giving the giving the cash but israel won't be listening to that i think right right now no for sure but it does it's it is an element in the decision making about when to act and because we can't wait forever because those pounding have their significant have their impact unfortunately in terms of casualties of civilians all right thanks doran stay with us we want to head to israel's northern border now our uh report to robert swift uh is there um there have been a few incidents this morning haven't they rob uh yeah that's right it's been quite a busy i'd say 20 hour period with a number of security events the last couple of hours have been quiet with the only major event being a possible drone sighting in the the center of israel's northern border which was called off as a false alarm but that's one of only one of several incidents that occurred there was this morning there was an infiltration by three to four palestinian gunmen who attempted to cross the northern border in the eastern end of the the border they were struck by an israeli drone which removed that threat and during the night there was also drones crossed over on the western end of israel's northern border and they were shot down by israeli air defense systems and with some shrapnel landing on the ground close to the israeli city of khayfa these are just some of the events taking place in that 24 hour in that 20-hour period and these themselves are a continuation of the skirmishes that we've been seeing here all week long and rob this is uh uh taking on an international dimension now as well of course you've got the iranian foreign minister in beirut today the hezbollah leadership says that it will participate when the time is right it says it will respond to israeli actions rather than take a proactive stance that's important isn't it yeah that's correct essentially i think people were looking at hezbollah immediately as the attacks took place on saturday concerned that they would join the fight then the fact that they didn't it seems to imply that they're looking for some sort of trigger point for them to weigh in these skirmishes that we're seeing at the minute rather than them being a sign that the hezbollah are about to enter it seems that that is maybe them essentially trying to keep up the pressure keep up the the the demonstration that they are involved in this content in this fight but as you say there are international implications here both with regards to iran and with the us having moved warships into the arena here all right rob thank you for now rob a swift there up at the northern border let's go to israel's southern border our jonathan reggae is close to the border with gaza where most of the action is right now jonathan tell us what's the latest so we're we're hearing constant barrages and and constant artillery and air force action in gaza itself having said that hamas is still able to launch rockets mainly to the community zero around the gaza border but not only that we have seen hamas launched towards central israel earlier today bear sheva as well therefore they're still holding their abilities of course the rockets are stored underground and it is it is a very quick move to surface fire and and go back underground that's where the rockets are that's where the hamas leadership is they're very quick when it comes to put other the lives of others in danger they themselves they're deep underground with water with electricity all the rest all of the humanitarian issues that we're hearing that they deal with the gaza population not with their leaders they have everything they need and israel says hundreds of thousands of palestinians are listening to their warnings and they are moving south towards the south of gaza to avoid being caught up in a very serious military situation in the north that's true the humanitarian corridor announced by the IDF was was basically it was announced from the morning from 10 a.m. till 4 p.m. an hour from now what will happen an hour from now we don't exactly know i do think that that later on in the day and especially as as night time arrives we'll see much heavier action much stronger action by israel especially in that area of the northern gaza strip jonathan thank you jonathan reggae down there at the border with gaza um lieutenant colonel donna vitale is still with us in the studio um let's start with uh what's happening in the north should we um shall we uh hezbollah saying it will intervene when the time is right it says uh i think it's important to say it will says it will respond not i think the emphasis of responding is important because it seemed that neither iran nor hezbollah are interested right now in opening a northern front this is the way it seems it can change i think lebanon is in a weak position in the deterrence of the of the americans the aircraft geofraud a fort coming to our area so those kermis ish are sort of a dialogue in fire which were which is part of the part of the battlefield but i it seemed that this is not in the east interest and this says something about the kama strategy because if kama strategy in the beginning was that this would be the beginning of an unfolding uh some bigger uh escalation and at the opening of front in the west bank and in the northern border in the meantime it didn't succeed so we hope it's only been a week though we should remember shouldn't we it's only been it's only been a week since yeah exactly i mean in the long run in the long run so isrena isn't taking any some provocation some event some temple mount event some event in west bank something can happen but right now this is the common wisdom but the common wisdom failed us with kama it can fail well also and there is the reassurance of course of the americans sending their largest aircraft carrier the americans have directly warned hezbollah not to get involved and the U.S. Secretary of State actually has been meeting with the Saudi foreign minister today as he continues his whirlwind tour of the region he says blinkin says that israel is pursuing its legitimate right to defend its people and he also says that none of us want to see suffering by civilians on either side whether it's in israel or gaza so that's Anthony blinkin there in Saudi Arabia all right well a week after the most horrendous atrocities perpetrated against the jewish people since the holocaust israel is still identifying burying its dead trying to find the missing trying to find out who is being held in gaza an ongoing never-ending nightmare for millions of people joining us now millett benheim is a survivor from the nova music festival which was attacked by hamas terrorists last saturday thanks for being with us millett what's your story thank you it's been exactly one week uh i was at the party we uh got the music to stop at 6 30 we're really confused we started seeing rockets in the sky um and we just started running laying on the ground trying to understand what we can do um after a few minutes we realized we have to to run away we didn't have any shelters it's a open field kind of party we're very beautiful happy loving people we got into the car started driving but we went one way and we had a terrorist shooting at us we went the other way and we had terrorists waiting for us as well um we got out of the car we realized we have to start just running for our lives we ran to the fields um yeah i know it's hard but we didn't have any place to hide every every every place we ran to we had people shooting at us um we saw a lot of people falling down we we don't know some of them probably um dead some of them are kidnapped um raped everything that you hear about um we found this um hitting spot in the bushes and we yeah just we're looking sorry to interrupt you we're looking at a video it's gone we were looking at a video where they they shot bullets at a line of those portable toilets just to make sure there were no survivors just one of the many many signs of of cruelty uh that they that they carried out how how did you get away millet um i was hiding in the bushes with uh three other girls uh we covered ourselves with leaves and we tried to talk to the police they didn't answer for a long time and once they did they told us that we are on our own because there is so many people who's been murdered and kidnapped right now um um and then we just had this um angel uh rami and another one leon to uh to all oldish people that just decided to volunteer and find us uh going by car on their own yeah because they got connected to us yeah we had to yeah lots of israeli heroes they they heard what was going on they they jumped in their cars and they drove straight towards the danger didn't they with no regard for their own lives a lot of them are dead now leon as well he got murdered uh there is parents that came to save their kids and died on the way of doing that we're all devastated yeah we're all in it together it's it's it's horrible to to hear no no one should have to go through that millet how are you how are you coping a week on it must be very difficult day today um every day is difficult because we keep hearing even now while i'm talking to you i can see my phone they just told me that another friend um died um we just keep hearing more and more about stories like that um it's it's impossible it's it is it's it is there are no words to describe it i'm so sorry for you millet but i'm also glad that you're you're still here to tell the story to to to give you a testimony of what happened on that terrible day and i hope you have i hope you find comfort with your family and your and your friends your surviving friends thank you millet thank you millet benheim there one of the survivors of the nova music festival uh dole and i mean it's the story is a heartbreaking and they unfold every hour you get a different story and the initiative that people took outside of that and you you hear that and i'm sorry i want to remain professional but i am so furious about the semantic debates going on in some western media outlets like the bbc about using the word terrorist to describe what we've just heard it's a murderous brutality and it's a the scope is unimaginable and this requires us of course to get our forces to gather and really dismantle hamas this can't continue the question what does it mean what the magnitude i can assure you that every hamas leader either in israel or outside of israel would find himself the same way it was in the munich affair they would find himself would face death i mean there's no question about that they would be hunted to the last of them but this would require times time and effort and maybe also we won't know the full extent of what happened will we for a long time i mean no there will be first of all we have to go through it of course and succeed in the mission ahead of us of course we'll have to investigate also what happened in our side in the military infrastructure for sure from intelligence to the tactical forces on the ground to yeah it's a yeah and it's well still identifying the dead burying the dead but the the fight back is underway israel has vowed to destroy hamas and we shouldn't think of course and we shouldn't forget the hostage dilemma which we still is on our plate young children among the hostages babies even yeah exactly babies snatched from their mothers and being taken hostage in Gaza so a very competent general that was once my soldier nitzan alone he was appointed to be the general that rather that would run it i wrote to him i really if there's a general that i trust in the israeli army that can do the job is nitzan and let's hope they find a way how to in the end bring the hostages back and you know obviously we're very focused on the situation here but the hamas leadership in doha yesterday called for a global day of rage against not just israelis but jews around the world and it's it's shocking to see that in paris they've had to close the louvre museum for um which i lived in paris for a long time i've i've never seen that um even during the gilet genre protest they've had to close the louvre museum because they're worried about the risk there are unconfirmed reports coming out of germany um that uh pro hamas supporters have been putting the signs indicating where jews live that's okay so it's not confirmed but it's a sign of the terrifying situation in russia as well anti-semitic editorials in russian state media it it's this is proof for those who still need it that this is why jews need their own country they need their own army yeah and we have to and we shouldn't forget that we have to win victory in the battlefield when we are strong when we win our victories we are respected and then we can also aid uh jewish communities around the world so israel has to get back to its own uh self and win a decisive victory in the context in which we are facing how long i mean i know this is the million dollar question how long do you think this military conflict could drag on floor i think it will take a long time i think we're talking more than weeks and i think in terms of hunting uh those from us leaders that are spread around the world it might take years i mean we this is an open account that will have to be settled so but in terms of the gaza strip itself this is a long haul and it might take months yeah i think it's a long campaign yeah it's a long campaign several months uh okay so i can just bring you up to date with the latest uh on what we know so far um on this day eight of israel's war with hamas um it is exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered uh idjad kidnapped in that terrorist onslaught in the south of the country um the if is pounding gaza with airstrikes two senior hamas commanders have been confirmed killed including the commando who planned uh the assault on the south of israel uh hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians seen uh listening to the idf and moving south despite the efforts of hamas uh to stop them leaving um and um america uh is uh 100 behind israel uh the strongest army in the world um they have sent uh numerous uh high ranking uh government and military officials to israel in recent days along with the world's biggest aircraft carriers um in your career have you ever seen such a show of support for the american from the americans i think as an army man i always felt that the u.s with us and i think also nato european union i think this is the context of our alliance but such a show of support that is uh bolstered by a real presence of power as perhaps in the yom kippur war this is the land the latest historical time in which we saw it so of course you stand by us and when this is the basic alliance the western alliance which would have to combat this this this this terrible event that we are witnessing it's a psychological support as well isn't it of course of course of course but i think it's also for us to understand there were times in israel that people were undermining the the the u.s aid or the u.s alliance or the western european alliance whatever grievance says we have in the end this is our alliance u.s europe nato this is we are part of the west and this we are fighting a war which is basically also a war that is a war of the west in many in many senses and do you think the americans have have got a wake-up call when it comes to iran i mean they're freezing the six billion dollars that they were paying in in exchange for the whole i think they do i mean i think i must admit that i think the way we handle the iranian issue trying to be to take the forefront we should have done it with the u.s more we are working intend them with them this is what grievance says that i have with the policy of my government but we need the u.s together iran is iran or the whole axis of iran is a is a global issue i mean we are part of this global issue and i think the u.s of course is spearheading this effort and we have to do it with them help them intelligence wise more sad wise whatever we do and the context in which we have to be very much worried right now is of course his bala is the biggest proxy of iran in this area and of course those iranian militia in syria in which of course we are we are all the time monitoring and attacking when it's needed yeah yeah and of course we're talking about his bala saying that it is preparing to respond to any action yeah i think he's mad i see what's happening in gaza also the atrocities in the end of course unfortunately but they didn't serve the image of hamas in the costing in the context of the palestinian cause because hamas in the face of hamas now it's a different hamas than some people were considering before so i think his bala thinks twice to initiate to initiate an attack on us i'm not sure would be in their best interest sure not in the interest of lebanon and the context of the political infrastructure well it is a country on the brink of complete economic collapse already exactly so this would really create a whole new a whole new crisis for lebanon and i think everybody understand it and of course the deterrence of america stepping in into the conflict in this context with such force and such a statehood and staying is a is a clear signal to iran this country and indeed this part of the world will never be the same again will it after this event no and the truth where nobody knows what would be the far-reaching consequences of this event because the the wheels of history move after this event they would move in the direction that we have to force in and be very much alert too because even if his bala doesn't act now the escalation can be later given half a year a year those historical events and historical times in which we are witnessing yeah we just have to take it day by day for now don't we and put our faith in the idea all right thank you very much don't know we're going to take a break stay with us this is israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity is because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure the weight or the water above your head we're able to save energy you're watching i24 news we're coming to you live from televiv it's day eight of israel's war with hamas and it's exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country and it's being seen as a green light from the united states for an israeli ground offensive into gaza the us secretary of state antony blinkin has called for the protection of all civilians two senior hamas commanders are confirmed killed by the idf the commander who plotted last week's massacre along with the head of the group's aerial force the idf says hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them from leaving senior egyptian officials say that egypt israel one senior egyptian official i should say says that egypt israel and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners living in gaza to pass through the raffa border crossing in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including dozens of hamas supporters and israelis have been taking shelter this morning after a barrage of rockets fired at central and southern israel no casualties reported up in the north on the border with lebanon the idf has thwarted attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with hamas and hezbollah terrorists throughout the day and indeed over previous days the military now says a number of mortars have been launched from lebanon at israeli military sites speaking from bay root the iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in gaza the families of the hostages say they've managed to hand over medical information and medicine to the red cross in the hopes that it will reach their loved ones well that is a round up of the situation this hour as on this day eight of israel's war with hamas i'm joined in the studio by gaipur ran captain in the reserves and a former air force pilot thank you for being with us and the air force of course is key in this uh this effort to destroy hamas once and for all how would you say that it's progressing so far absolutely at this point in time it's mainly the air force i mean there's some artillery and some marine activity but it's it's mostly the air force that can do the job now and as we can see by the pictures uh there uh i think has never been a such a a intensive short-term activity of the air force with thousands of sorties and and and uh and buildings being bombed and of course the question is uh when will be the point with the moment in time when it's going to be more than the air force when ground forces are there i think that the idf is preparing for all these other scenarios but at this point in time i know that the air force is is at 150 activity yeah and of course we've just had those comments from the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken it's being seen as a green light from Washington for a ground offensive what how do you interpret those comments well i think that the uh the united states definitely and most other countries understand that the Israeli uh goals of actually exterminating the capabilities of hamas must include also a ground move uh the point is the question is when will they start seeing pictures of uh uh you know human suffering into to an extent that is going to change the public opinion in those countries and would start putting pressure on israel to stop or maybe allow some humanitarian this is something that is that is not clear there is a window i i'm sure that the whole free world is seen the atrocities the pictures and gives is an understanding that israel must react in the most aggressive way right and we had a very strong statement of support yesterday didn't we from the u.s defense secretary uh the americans 100 behind israel right now i think we can go to the north of israel to the border with lebanon no we can't go we can't go there yet okay uh all right let's talk a bit more um about what's going on uh in gaza then um we've got a lot of hamas propaganda coming out uh they're claiming that some of the hostages were killed um of course we can't give any credibility uh to that um and we are getting uh reports of course of hundreds of thousands of palestinians moving to the south um as you say um uh there is sorry we're going to go to the north uh hold that thought let's go to the north then um because there are some developments on the border with lebanon our pia stekelback is there uh pia um mortars fired at the contested mount dove or harddove area tell us more right laura a short while ago a barrage of mortar shells was fired uh to an israeli army post in the disputed harddove area hezbollah the lebanese militia just claimed responsibility for firing these mortar shells israel's army is striking back as we speak now this is a disputed area at the eastern side of the border with lebanon fairly close to syria already this has been the location where already six days ago israel and hezbollah have exchanged shots and this is also the location where earlier this summer hezbollah has set up two tents in the side of the israeli border almost a trigger and escalation there earlier this summer now laura this comes after this morning an infiltration squad was apprehended in the israeli town of margalyot they were said to be three palestinians operating under his ballah command three of them were apprehended and killed now further developments throughout the night drones were detected over the city of hypham on the western side next to the sea now a shrapnel landing in a city next to hypha causing no injuries there earlier yesterday another drone was monitored in the sky over misgav am which was also intercepted and this is very close where the infiltration attempt this morning happened in fact this of course coming after yesiren hanita by the way this is a town that is very uh next to where we stand here right now an infiltration attempt was spotted by the israeli army as a result of that exchange of fire with his ballah on the lebanese side of the border and the rotors journalists were was killed and four other journalists were injured and these are just some of the skirmishes that happened here between israel and his ballah just over the course of the week in the recent days thank you very much pierce echo back there um at israel's northern border um let's move on to uh some of the news coming out of gaza then because the death toll in gaza stands at 2215 those figures are released by the hamas controlled gaza health ministry that number does not distinguish between terrorist and civilian deaths it is of course in the interest of hamas to have a high civilian death toll in order to sway the international community into putting pressure on israel into stopping its campaign to destroy hamas uh well you can see this picture this was released by hamas and then quickly deleted uh it's a plastic doll uh which uh they are trying to pass off uh as a baby um but of course uh that shouldn't distract from the fact that there are of course uh and there will be high civilian casualties in gaza because uh part of hamas's strategy is to keep uh civilians captive in areas of danger so as many of them are killed as possible this is all part of the hamas war and our um middle east correspondent arelosa ran is here with us with more on that now arel look laura the psychological warfare on behalf of hamas and all major terror organizations that imply uh or employ these kinds of tactics it's not new to us we've been reporting about that for years this is their way you know as their name their terror organization so this is just another aspect another realm of their warfare against the israeli population we remember it with audio recordings of is when they were just four israelis kidnapped in gaza until last week that was the situation they would release every once in a while audio recordings as of the claiming to be of the soldiers asking to be released the authenticity of that was uh refuted almost immediately and we've been seeing this throughout since saturday with the release of different uh footage to try and really continue to hit the israeli public in the underbelly regarding the hostages close to 100 according to 200 according anywhere between 150 and 200 200 according to the current estimations and on the other hand they they they have realized that these images also really have affected public opinion against them and they're engaged in their own public opinion campaign to try and claim that the atrocities that they've committed are not true that this is being made up by israel there's already this movement of atrocity deniers of of the of the barbarism that was committed against hundreds of israelis and their families in southern israel and and so this is another aspect of this war of this campaign that israel is going to have to deal with area thank you let's go to the border with gaza now our mary macaulif uh sorry she's not at the border with gaza uh that's incorrect mary macaulif is in fact in ashkelon uh one of the uh southern israeli cities that has come under sustained rocket fire from Hamas in recent days mary what's the latest hi laura so there has been a lot of moving around today we are in fact in an undisclosed location near the israel gaza border we're not going to tell you exactly how far away from the border or where we are both protect as well as the troops who are stationed here in this unit it's going to be quite loud right now as you can see we have heavy israeli machinery who has been massing in this area all throughout the day this continues to be as israeli forces continue to move troops from different parts of the countries through various areas in the south you can see all behind me all in this tree line a line of heavy israeli vehicles these are both tanks and armored personnel carriers as well as systems that appear to be multiple raunch locket systems so that they can launch a number of different attacks into gaza we don't know exactly what this attack is going to look like all we do know that israeli forces here are on high alert and are clearly bracing to launch a big operation what exactly that will look like and when it will come remains to be seen but right now we can certainly feel all of the activity here in the south all right mary uh apologies for the confusion mary is at the border with gaza our correspondents at i-24 news are moving around uh all over the place so uh that's uh that was the latest from the border with gaza well um the extent of the atrocities committed by hamas a week ago today continue to be uh revealed uh to the world and to the israelis who are still to uh here in israel where we are still identifying and burying the dead well joining me now razz uh schmielovich is a resident of the moshav natif hasara he helped to clean homes after the massacre in that moshav um and uh i understand razz your son was alone in the shelter for 14 hours and you've just had one shock after another tell us tell us what happened to you razz hey how are you doing um yeah unfortunately there is this during this horrible term terrorist attack done by khamas on last saturday um my son was home alone throughout those horrors in the bomb shelter by himself from six in the morning until four in the afternoon you're actually really able to meet him when he was taken out of the community at the same time um his friend was actually uh in the beach at that time already dead but the last message he got from his friend that khamas boats are deploying on the beach soldiers are fighting then he hide in the bathroom he sends my son a text a recorded audio message saying they're shooting at us they're shooting at us there's gunshots all around and last we heard of him at seven ten in the morning and his body was identified later on the night in khamas in the bar gilai hospital in ashkelon i'm so sorry that's that's terrible and what are you doing now to to try and get through it you're like many israelis you're mobilizing you're you're pulling together with the rest of the country first of all since we live so close to the border our community was evacuated completely by the army and it's a closed military territory that's the first time it doesn't have an it has ever happened i've been living there for 40 years now um so we are all basically evacuated and the whole idea we are trying to put as many families as possible in the same place because our kids need each other friends to to go for the horrors i personally came back to mashab on sunday to help those who stayed behind wrap everything up and and what you what you're showing now on the screen of images i've seen myself i've seen neighbors of mine trying to clean bloodstains of their beloved one being murdered my immediate community lost the lives of 20 people at this genocide massacre 20 people of my neighbors from 17 years of age until almost 80 were murdered by khamas and all the atrocities and when i came back on sunday one of the things i did actually help clean houses because people needed to go home to get excuse my graphic descriptions people needed to get toothbrushes and hairbrushes and used laundry to get DNA samples to identify their bodies because of some of the bodies most of the body was so horrifically um shot in demographic but beyond recognition i'm i'm so sorry the the the the rare bright spot in this is that your son is alive your your son how is he doing he's alive it's it's when people ask you how we're doing i'm saying alive which has not been the case of all of my neighbors unfortunately um now obviously we can shock we are hugging him we're trying to make sure everything is okay it's nightmares at night it's it's yelling in the middle of the night it's me not leaving him for a second it's him writing a steel text message for his dead friend it's him was starting memorial pages on everything that touched his friend from soccer teams to surfing his friend was surfing he surfed in the Philippines the Maldivians in just two days ago there was a huge surfers circus in honor of his friend tal he's busy commemorating the members of his friend they're hugging each other away with him but what appears to be like a in the beginning of a very long run and i think what i think needs to be known what needs to be done i've seen their process is done by Hamas Hamas is trying to wash his hands off the horrors he did Hamas understood that the media he himself released to the world puts him in a very problematic place and now he's trying to hide and i can tell you first-handed things that i've seen blood murder scenes massacre kids shot next to their parents babies young people um horrors that we will not let Hamas go through with them it will not happen again Hamas will pay the price the world needs to know that Hamas is Isis Hamas is Isis the United States said it yesterday Hamas is worse than Isis so we've got we've got the Americans behind us the IDF is is destroying them as we speak um it's uh it's it's absolutely heartbreaking to hear your story um there's just been one story after another coming out um and we're all together in this and we thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us and uh and much love to your son and to your family and and we're all with you thank you very much thank you as well this is just one of many many horrific stories uh really uh heartbreaking um very difficult to hear for everyone this is a whole country going through trauma at the moment uh we are going through trauma but we still have to fight because we have to and we are destroying the enemy so how do we get through this day by day all of us um hopefully my next guest and can help us with that Dr. Kamila Fokoslavad is a licensed practicing psychologist and organization consultant thank you very much for being with us doctor um your services very much in need at this time what advice do you have for people uh so i'm just going to go in like to to cram in as much as possible information if that's okay and again thank you so much all for raising these kinds of questions and and having these discussions and people of course can look through some of our previous discussions there's also a lot of information and also on the net but basically long story short a person that isn't directly involved with the safety and security army and things like that as much as and even also for the ones that are involved of course but for them will be or like people on the media or whatever that's directly involved with our helping profession you are directly involved so you do need to be more in tune on what's happening moment to moment and things like that if you're not in that kind of a profession you can limit it please please do limit the the amount of information that you're taking in because it can suck you in into a spiral very very quickly and then it will affect i mean anyway it's a very stressful situation right i mean that's saying it very likely so as much as possible maybe you know don't watch news the first thing in the morning as you wake up allow your brain to wake up a little bit at least then watch but or read of course be informed about like to an extent see you know everyone how much you can handle at once and then maybe have a break for a few hours maybe do again i would suggest towards like the afternoon evening really to limit as much as possible this is going to sound crazy but like in the middle somewhere do watch you know a comedy show or something funny something i don't know a stupid movie just to be able not because you care about the stupid movie obviously and this is not like not officially the time but just to be able to keep yourself sane as much as possible and to keep your nervous system as calm as possible because it's already on overdrive trust me while you're watching a movie your thoughts are there in the background this is even more important if you happen to be a parent of children because children will read you even if you're going to be telling them all kinds of cute little things or whatever they will read you they're so intuitive they're so so good at knowing information that that is beyond what what is actually being told for them so it's very important that you yourself first of all keep yourself as as calm i mean under the circumstances as possible which you won't be obviously yes um so that's another thing i'm going to go to the children in a moment on how to talk to them and start to get back to things like that to be able to do allow yourself understand that the situation is crazy it's shocking there is no words to it it's just beyond stressful so you will also respond in that situation which is a healthy response in the stressful situation to be so stressed out yes everyone with their own level do allow for that to come out but try to manage it meaning go cry do whatever you need to do but then be like okay take a break for a little bit as much as you can and then when it comes that you again maybe you're doing maybe in the middle of something i don't know bathing your baby be like okay in an hour i'll get i'll get back to you in an hour meaning acknowledge the feelings that you're having and the anxiety and whatever it might be for you and be like in an hour and then it sounds like it's crazy when i'm saying but like your your subconscious and your mind this is will help you with this and you'll be able to stretch these periods of time just enough to be functional in the middle and delta i've got a couple of questions for you first of all we've been told this is going to go on possibly for months how does the human mind adapt to this highly stressful situation so again our mind is amazing really really like if i mean if i wouldn't be in this profession and still i'm already i don't know how long like sounds like you know a hundred years in it but it's so fascinating and there's always more our mind is just as long as we don't bother it so to speak it is very very good at adapting at things and sectioning things off to to an extent you don't want it to be to where it's totally dissected in a way that you you're not aware of what's happening with you yet but like to be that's what i'm saying it's important to be able to allow the stress to come out and experience it but like in managed situations you know and and that's why it's important to also like you know something for for to release yes to like a song or or a comedy or talk to somebody or something like this to be able to manage and to allow yourself to for the nervous system to become yeah this is a very good question also and in terms of length and going back to the children yes it's important to age appropriate there is no need for them to know all kinds of very gruesome details because they can't do anything with it and it's also their system is still being built as a child so no need to add extra stress meaning manage what you tell them and do tell them which is true for our country also no matter what political views are no matter what we think of whatever we think but it's the the bottom line is we do go through wars all the time and we're handling it all the time this is a much bigger scale and it's we're still going to be dissecting it later on what it actually is and how it is but we do have a very strong army we're armed to our teeth we know how to fight if we're pushed to a corner with that's what's happening right now and we do see a much stronger response and there's a reason for it right so to to to make children understand that they live in a country that literally is armed to our teeth meaning we smile and we're cute but not when we're pushed to a corner right so that's very very important for them to know this setting to know this reality and again you can present it in different words but because we're going into we don't know in how long of a time period to keep yourself sane to keep yourself going forward and to have something some reprieve some kind of peaceful moment as much as possible under the circumstances that's why I'm saying watch something funny or watch some kind of a movie because alone the mind will have more difficulty sometimes to go to these places but that will take you there and it is just for a period of time so that you can keep functioning so you can keep being informed so you can keep doing what you need to be doing it's very important so look for distractions uh try and take your mind off things um and uh age appropriate uh conversations with children yes but also do be aware don't like push it down just go to distractions be aware be like i'm very very stressed out okay let me take a half an hour i'll go to the room and like try to you know process it and maybe watch something you understand both so that it's balanced okay very important so it doesn't stop later and just find it i mean we're hearing like story after story in the details of what happened um things that the human beings can't even imagine the the full horror how do you stop the the images the constant scenes of that kind of popping into your mind at any time of day i think that's something uh people are dealing with i know i certainly am certainly so this is one of those things going back in it again everything is related to everything so the more you can give your your mind a little bit of a window of peace that's why i'm saying like movie or something funny so it's easier to take you out of it yes or like to read or whatever but to read sometimes it's very difficult if those thoughts are already spiraling there so so that will make it easier for you to they will be spiraling that but it will be making it easier a little bit that they spiral less and any little bit of time that you will give yourself like quote unquote peace yes you'll be able to manage those thoughts a little bit better and and not have them fly all the time if you're seeing that you're having really very high difficulty there's a lot of psychologists therapists social workers there are helplines please please do reach out to us like to any of us even if we're like overwhelmed and we have 100 people that we're seeing it's fine first of all we can always squeeze people in if you know if especially if there's some flexibility in time and work whatever into the night but also we are like refer amongst each other so we will be able to help you out please please do go to somebody do see how to manage it for your specific situation but again be aware of like especially when there is such a traumatic stressful event people feel guilty almost to go watch something funny don't if you want to be functional you need to understand you like you need to eat you need to drink you need to be able to give your mind even spaces little pockets consistently of peace in order to keep aware in order to keep reading these things to keep you know fighting for our country to do whatever it is that you need to do you need to be functional meaning do allow yourself for your mind to keep as much as you can come and those spiraling thoughts will also be less if you start from the morning to watch the news right it will already spiral you so like let your mind look out first like I don't know if you agree but I think being with other people is the most important thing right now seeing that we're all in this together that's our strength 100% and you can see how everyone came together from a lower place all over the globe really people are supporting each other and calling each other and sending things to each other so much love so much like even even it's interesting to see before that we talked about about the protests and this and that and who's on the right who's on the left was in the middle of who's whatever and as we fight but as soon as there's something going on like this where there is a threat people do come together very very much no matter what they change what they don't think for sure for sure what they do thing is to make sure that we have the safety and all the skills and we're all very very highly trained in in different areas and we have a lot of knowledge obviously and a lot of insights and a lot of military abilities and it's amazing to see on how everybody comes together literally all over Dr. Camila for a question about it really valuable advice at this time thank you so much for the what you're doing you're helping a lot of people thank you we're going to take a short break stay with us this is i24 news back in them in a short while israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity you you're watching i24 news we're coming to you live from televiv it's day eight of israel's war with hamas and it's exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country and it's being seen as a green light from the united states for an israeli ground offensive into gaza the u.s. sector of state antony blinkin has called for the protection of all civilians two senior hamas commanders are confirmed killed by the idf the commander who plotted last week's massacre along with the head of the groups aerial force the idf says hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them from leaving senior egyptian officials say that egypt israel one senior egyptian official i should say says that egypt israel and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners living in gaza to pass through the raffa border crossing in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including dozens of hamas supporters and israelis have been taking shelter this morning after a barrage of rockets fired at central and southern israel no casualties reported up in the north on the border with lebanon the idf has thwarted attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with hamas and hezbollah terrorists throughout the day and indeed over previous days the military now says a number of mortars have been launched from lebanon at israeli military sites speaking from beirut the iranian foreign minister says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in gaza the families of the hostages say they've managed to hand over medical information and medicine to the red cross in the hopes that it will reach their loved ones well that is a round up of the situation this hour as on this day eight of israel's war with hamas i'm joined in the studio by gaipur ran captain in the reserves and a former air force pilot thank you for being with us and the air force of course is key in this this effort to destroy hamas once and for all how would you say that it's progressing so far absolutely at this point in time it's mainly the air force i mean there's some artillery and some marine activity but it's it's mostly the air force that can do the job now and as we can see by the pictures uh there uh i think has never been a such a a intensive short-term activity of the air force with thousands of sorties and and and buildings being bombed and of course the question is when will be the point with the moment in time when it's going to be more than the air force when ground forces are there i think that the idf is preparing for all these other scenarios but at this point in time i know that the air force is is at 150 activity yeah and of course we've just had those comments from the u.s secretary of state antony blinkin it's being seen as a green light from washington for a ground offensive what how do you interpret those comments well i think that the united states definitely and most other countries understand that the israeli goals of actually exterminating the capabilities of hamas must include also a ground move uh the point is the question is when will they start seeing pictures of uh you know human suffering it into to an extent that is going to change the public opinion in those countries and would start putting pressure on israel to stop or maybe allow some humanitarian this is something that is that is not clear there is a window i i'm sure that the whole free world has seen the atrocities the pictures and gives is an understanding that israel must react in the most aggressive way right and we had a very strong statement of support yesterday didn't we from the u.s defense secretary uh the americans 100 behind israel right now i think we can go to the north of israel to the border with lebanon no we can't go we can't go there yet okay uh all right let's talk a bit more um about what's going on uh in gaza then um we've got a lot of hamas propaganda coming out uh they're claiming that some of the hostages were killed of course we can't put give any credibility uh to that um and we are getting reports of course of hundreds of thousands of palestinians moving to the south um as you say um uh there is sorry we're going to go to the north uh hold that thought let's go to the north then um because there are some developments on the border with lebanon our pia steppleback is there uh pia mortars fired at the contested mount dove or harddove area tell us more right lora a short while ago a barrage of mortar shells was fired uh to an israeli army post in the disputed harddove area hezbollah the lebanese militia just claimed responsibility for firing these mortar shells israel's army is striking back as we speak now this is a disputed area at the eastern side of the border with lebanon fairly close to syria already this has been the location where already six days ago israel and hezbollah have exchanged shots and this is also the location where earlier this summer hezbollah has set up two tents in the side of the israeli border almost a trigger and escalation there earlier this summer now lora this comes after this morning an infiltration squad was apprehended in the israeli town of margaleyot they were said to be three palestinians operating under hezbollah command three of them were apprehended and killed now for the developments throughout the night drones were detected over the city of haifa more on the western side next to the sea now a shrapnel landing in a city next to haifa causing no injuries there earlier yesterday another drone was monitored in the sky over misgav am which was also intercepted and this is very close where the infiltration attempt this morning happened in fact this of course coming after yesterday in hanita by the way this is a town that is very next to where we stand here right now an infiltration attempt was spotted by the israeli army as a result of that exchange of fire with hezbollah on the lebanon side of the border and the rotters journalists were was killed and four other journalists were injured and these are just some of the skirmishes that happened here between israel and hezbollah just over the course of the week in the recent days lora pia thank you very much i pierced echo back there at israel's northern border um let's move on to uh some of the news coming out of gaza then because the death toll in gaza stands at 2215 those figures are released by the hamas controlled gaza health ministry that number does not distinguish between terrorist and civilian deaths it is of course in the interest of hamas to have a high civilian death toll in order to sway the international community into putting pressure on israel into stopping its campaign to destroy hamas well you can see this picture this was released by hamas and then quickly deleted it's a plastic doll which they are trying to pass off as a baby but of course that shouldn't distract from the fact that there are of course and there will be high civilian casualties in gaza because part of hamas's strategy is to keep civilians captive in areas of danger so as many of them are killed as possible this is all part of the hamas war and our um middle east correspondent ariel osirani is here with us with more on that now ariel look lora the psychological warfare on behalf of hamas and all major terror organizations that imply uh or employ these kinds of tactics it's not new to us we've been reporting about that for years this is their way you know as their name their terror organization so this is just another aspect another realm of their warfare against the israeli population we remember it with uh audio recordings of is when they were just four israelis kidnapped in gaza until last week that was the situation they would release every once in a while audio recordings as of the claiming to be the soldiers asking to be released the authenticity of that was refuted almost immediately and we've been seeing this throughout since saturday with the release of different uh footage to try and really continue to hit the israeli public in the underbelly regarding the hostages close to a hundred according to 200 anywhere between 150 and 200 according to the current estimations and on the other hand they they have realized that these images also really have affected public opinion against them and they're engaged in their own public opinion campaign to try and claim that the atrocities that they've committed are not true that this is being made up by israel there's already this movement of atrocity deniers of the of the barbarism that was committed against hundreds of israelis and their families in southern israel and and so this is another aspect of this war of this campaign that israel is going to have to deal with area thank you let's go to the border with gaza now our mary mccauliffe sorry she's not at the border with gaza that's incorrect mary mccauliffe is in fact in ashkelon uh one of the uh southern israeli cities that has come under sustained rocket fire from hamas in recent days mary what's the latest hi laura so there has been a lot of moving around today we are in fact in an undisclosed location near the israel gaza border we're not going to tell you exactly how far away from the border or where we are both protect rcp as well as the troops who are stationed here in this unit it's going to be quite loud right now as you can see we have heavy israeli machinery who has been massing in this area all throughout the day this continues to be as israeli forces continue to move troops from different parts of the countries through various areas in the south you can see all behind me all in this tree line a line of heavy israeli vehicles these are both tanks and armored personnel carriers as well as systems that appear to be multiple raunch locket systems so that they can launch number of different attacks into gaza we don't know exactly what this attack is going to look like all we do know that israeli forces here are on high alert and are clearly bracing to launch a big operation what exactly that will look like and when it will come remains to be seen but right now we can certainly feel all of the activity here in the south all right mary uh apologies for the confusion mary is at the border with gaza our correspondents at i24 news are moving around uh all over the place so uh that's uh that was the latest from the border with gaza well um the extent of the atrocities committed by hamas a week ago today continue to be uh revealed uh to the world and to the israelis who are still to uh here in israel where we are still identifying and burying the dead well joining me now razz uh shmelovic is a resident of the moshav natif haasara he helped to clean homes after the massacre in that moshav um and uh i understand razz your son was alone in the shelter for 14 hours and you've just had one shock after another tell us tell us what happened to you razz hey how are you doing um yeah unfortunately there is this during this horrible term terrorist attack done by hamas on last saturday um my son was home alone throughout those horrors in the bomb shelter by himself from six in the morning until four in the afternoon you're actually really able to meet him when he was taken out of the community at the same time um his friend was actually uh in the beach at that time already dead but the last message he got from his friend that hamas boats are deploying on the beach soldiers are fighting then he hide in the bathroom he sends my son the text uh recorded audio message saying they're shooting at us they're shooting at us there's gunshots all around and last we heard of him uh at seven ten in the morning and his body was identified later on the night uh in hamas in the marjula hospital in ashkelon i'm so sorry that's that's terrible and uh what are you doing now to to try and get through it you're like many israelis you're mobilizing you're you're pulling together with the rest of the country first of all uh since we live so close to the border our community was evacuated completely by the army and it's a closed military territory that's the first time it doesn't have an it has ever happened i've been living there for 40 years now um so we are all basically evacuated and the whole idea we are trying to put as many families as possible in the same place because our kids need each other friends to to go for the horrors i personally came back to moshaban sunday to help those who stayed behind wrap everything up and and what you're what you're showing now on the screen of images i've seen myself i've seen neighbors of mine uh trying to clean blood stains of the beloved one being murdered my immediate community lost the lives of 20 people at this genocide this massacre 20 people of my neighbors from 17 years of age until almost 80 were murdered um by hamas and those atrocities and when i came back on sunday one of the things i did was actually help clean houses because people needed to go home to get um excuse my graphic descriptions people needed to get toothbrushes and hairbrushes and used laundry to get dna samples to identify the bodies because of some of the bodies most of the body was so horrifically um shot in a little graphic but beyond recognition i'm i'm so sorry the the the the rare bright spot in this is that your son is alive your son how is he doing he's alive it's it's it's when people ask me how we're doing i'm saying alive which has not been the case of all of my neighbors unfortunately and now obviously we're going to shock we are hugging him we're trying to make sure everything is okay it's nightmares at night it's it's yelling in the middle of the night it's me not leaving him for a second it's him writing a steel text message for his dead friend it's him with the starting memorial pages and everything that touched his friend from soccer teams to surfing his friend was surfing he surfed in philippines the maldivians in just two days ago there was a huge surfing circle in honor of his friend tal he's busy commemorating the memory of his friend they're hugging each other away with him but what appears to be like a in the beginning of a very long run and i think what i think needs to be known what needs to be done i've seen their process is done by kamas kamas is trying to wash his hands off the horrors he did kamas understood that the media he himself released to the world puts him in a very problematic place and now he's trying to hide and i can tell you first handed things that i've seen blood murder scenes massacre kids shot next to their parents babies young people um horrors that we will not let kamas go through with them it will not happen again kamas will pay the price the world needs to know that kamas is isis kamas is isis now the united states said it yesterday kamas is worse than isis so we've got we've got the americans behind us the idf is is destroying them as we speak uh ras it's uh it's it's absolutely heartbreaking to hear your story um there's there's just been one story after another coming out um and we're all together in this and we thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us and uh and much love to your son and to your family and and we're all with you thank you very much thank you ras well this is just one of many many horrific stories uh really heartbreaking um very difficult to hear uh for everyone this is a whole country going through trauma at the moment uh we are going through trauma but we still have to fight because we have to and we are destroying the enemy so how do we get through this day by day all of us um hopefully my next guest and can help us with that doctor kamila for koshla van is a licensed practicing psychologist and organization consultant thank you very much for being with us doctor um your services very much in need at this time what advice do you have for people so i'm just going to go in like just to cram in as much as possible information if that's okay and again thank you so much all for raising these kinds of questions and and having these discussions and people of course can look through some of our previous discussions there's also a lot of information and also on the net but basically long story short uh a person that isn't directly involved with the safety and security army and things like that as much as but and even also for the ones that are involved of course but for them will be or like people on the media or whatever that's directly involved with our helping profession you are directly involved so you do need to be more in tune on what's happening moment to moment and things like that if you're not in that kind of a profession and you can limit it please please do limit the the amount of information that you're taking in because it can suck you into a spiral very very quickly and then it will affect i mean anyway it's a very stressful situation right i mean that's saying it very lightly so as much as possible maybe you know don't watch news the first thing in the morning as you wake up allow your brain to wake up a little bit at least then watch but or read of course be informed about like to an extent see you know everyone how much you can handle at once and then maybe have a break for a few hours then maybe do again i would suggest towards like the afternoon evening really to limit as much as possible this is going to sound crazy but like in the middle somewhere do watch you know a comedy show or something funny something i don't know a stupid movie just to be able not because you care about the stupid movie obviously and this is not like not officially the time but just to be able to keep yourself sane as much as possible and to keep your nervous system as calm as possible because it's already on overdrive trust me while you're watching a movie your thoughts are there in the background this is even more important if you happen to be a parent of children because children will read you even if you're going to be telling them all kinds of cute little things or whatever they will read you they're so intuitive they're so so good at knowing information that that is beyond what what is actually being told for them so it's very important that you yourself first of all keep yourself as as calm i mean under circumstances as possible which won't be obviously yes um so that's another thing i'm going to go to the children in a moment on how to talk to them and stuff and back to things like that to be able to do allow yourself understand that the situation is crazy it's shocking there is no words to it it's just beyond stressful so you will also respond in that situation which is a healthy response in the stressful situation to be so stressed out yes everyone with their own level do allow for that to come out but try to manage it meaning go cry do whatever you need to do but then be like okay take a break for a little bit as much as you can and then when it comes that you again maybe you're doing maybe you're in the middle of something i don't know bathing your baby be like okay in an hour i'll get i'll get back to you in an hour meaning acknowledge the feelings that you're having and the anxiety and whatever it might be for you and be like in an hour and then it sounds like it's crazy what i'm saying but like your your subconscious and your mind this is will help you with this and you'll be able to stretch these periods of time just enough to be functional in the middle and delta i've got a couple of questions for you first of all we've been told this is going to go on possibly for months how does the human mind adapt to this highly stressful situation so again our mind is amazing really really like if i mean if i wouldn't be in this profession and still i'm already i don't know how long like sounds like you know 100 years in it but it's so fascinating and there's always more our mind is just as long as we don't bother it so to speak it is very very good at adapting at things and sectioning things off to to an extent you don't want it to be to where it's totally dissected in a way that you you're not aware of what's happening with you yet but like to be that's what i'm saying it's important to be able to allow the stress to come out and experience it but like in managed situations you know and and that's why it's important to also like you know something for for to release yes to like a song or or a comedy or talk to somebody or something like this to be able to manage and to allow yourself to for the nervous system to become yeah this is a very good question also and in terms of length and going back to the children yes it's important to age appropriate there is no need for them to know all kinds of very gruesome details because they can't do anything with it and it's also their system is still being built as a child so no need to add extra stress meaning manage what you tell them and do tell them which is true for our country also no matter what political views are no matter what we think of whatever we think but it's the the bottom line is we do go through wars all the time and we're handling it all the time this is a much bigger scale and it's we're still going to be dissecting it later on what it is actually is and how it is but we do have a very strong army we're armed to our teeth we know how to fight if we're pushed to a corner with that's what's happening right now and we do see a much stronger response and there's a reason for it right so to to to make children understand that they live in a country that literally is armed to our teeth meaning we smile and we're cute but not when we're pushed to a corner right so that's very very important for them to know the same thing to know this reality and again you can present it in different words but because we're going into we don't know in how long of a time period to keep yourself sane to keep yourself going forward and to have something some reprieve some kind of peaceful moment as much as possible under the circumstances that's why i'm saying watch something funny or watch some kind of a movie because alone the mind will have more difficulty sometimes to go to these places but that will take you there and it is just for a period of time so that you can keep functioning so you can keep being informed so you can keep doing what you need to be doing it's very important so look for distractions try and take your mind off things and age-appropriate conversations with children yes but also do be aware don't like push it down just go to distractions be aware be like i'm very very stressed out okay let me take a half an hour i'll go to the room and like try to you know process it and maybe watch something you understand both so that it's balanced okay very important so it doesn't stop later and just find it i mean we're hearing like story after story in the details of what happened things that the human beings can't even imagine the the full horror how do you stop the the images the constant scenes of that kind of popping into your mind at any time of day i think that's something people are dealing with i know i certainly am certainly so this is one of those things going back in it again everything is related to everything so the more you can give your your mind a little bit of a window of peace that's why i'm saying like movie or something funny so it's easier to take you out of it yes or like to read or whatever but to read sometimes it's very difficult if those thoughts are already spiraling there so so that will make it easier for you to they will be spiraling there but it will be making it easier a little bit that they spiral less and any little bit of time that you will give yourself like quote unquote peace yes you'll be able to manage those thoughts a little bit better and and not have them fly all the time if you're seeing that you're having really very high difficulty there's a lot of psychologists therapists social workers there are helplines please please do reach out to us like to any of us even if we're like overwhelmed and we have 100 people that we're seeing it's fine first of all we can always squeeze people in if you know if especially if there's some flexibility in time and work whatever into the night but also we are like refer amongst each other so we will be able to help you out please please do go to somebody do see how to manage it for your specific situation but again be aware of like especially when there is such a traumatic stressful event people feel guilty almost to go watch something funny don't if you want to be functional you need to understand you like you need to eat you need to drink you need to be able to give your mind even spaces little pockets consistently of peace in order to keep aware in order to keep reading these things to keep you know fighting for our country to do whatever it is that you need to do you need to be functional meaning do allow yourself for your mind to keep as much as you can come and those spiraling thoughts will also be less if you start from the morning to watch the news right it will already spiral you so like let your mind look out first like this is aware I don't know if you agree but I think being with other people is the most important thing right now seeing that we're all in this together that's our strength a hundred percent and you can see how everyone came together from a lower place all over the globe really people are supporting each other and calling each other and sending things to each other so much love so much like even even it's interesting to see before that we talked about about the protests and this and that and who's on the right who's on the left was in the middle of who's whatever and as we fight but as soon as there is something going on like this where there is a threat people do come together very very much no matter what they change what they don't think for sure for sure what they do is to make sure that we have the safety and all the skills and we're all very very highly trained in different areas and we have a lot of knowledge obviously and a lot of insights and a lot of military abilities and it's amazing to see on how everybody comes together literally a lord come and make sure that the doctor camellia for a question of man in really valuable advice at this time thank you so much for the what you're doing you're helping a lot of people thank you we're going to take a short break stay with us this is our 24 years back in them in a short while because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure the weight or the water above your head we're able to save energy a few years later we are here a few hundred meters away from the mosque and nourish it the same arsenal and their power of fire in front of our cameras this is only after having left this theater of war that i took the measure of what i came to live when the information fell according to which a french television team had been killed by an explosive machine a mine in the same place where we found ourselves a few days earlier over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what hamas did follow us as israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north join i24 news for the real story of what's going on and you're watching i24 news we're coming to you live from televieve it's day eight of israel's war with and it's exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered, injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught on the south of the country and it's being seen as a green light from the united states for an israeli ground offensive into gaza the u.s. sector of state antony blinken has called for protection for all civilians two senior hamas commanders have been confirmed killed by the idf including the commander who plotted last week's massacre the idf says hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them from leaving a senior egyptian official says that egypt israel and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners living in gaza to pass through the raffa border crossing in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including dozens of hamas supporters israelis have been taking shelter today after a barrage of rockets hit central were fired at central and southern israel no casualties were reported and in the north on the border with lebanon the idf has thwarted attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with hamas and hezbollah terrorists throughout the day the military says a number of mortars were launched from lebanon as well the iranian foreign minister in beirut says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities among them as well are being held in gaza the hostages families say they've handed over medical information and medicine to the red cross in the hopes that it will reach their loved ones well let's get the latest on the military operation to destroy hamas our mary mccullough is close to the border with gaza mary was the latest i don't know if you can hear we can now get a little bit of so in that background that explosions that you can hear these are coming from the gaza strip this is as Israeli airstrikes are striking in the area in the past hour we've heard a number of different explosions this of course is coming just after an hour after israeli forces that quarter that they had given evacuees to flee from northern gaza to southern gaza they had from 10 until 4 earlier today to go on two different roads in gaza and trying to get to safety inside the southern gaza strip so since that deadline expired we have been hearing very large activity from israeli forces and as you can see all behind me we see a number of different israeli tanks and heavy machinery that have been massing here near the gaza border this continues to be efforts from the israeli military to try and move some of their forces from throughout the country and move them closer to the area while they wait for orders we don't even know if they have orders or what exactly the operation to come is look like but we do know that idea forces yesterday do say that they went into ground excursions inside gaza to attack some Hamas target positions and military positions where they believe weapons might have been hiding near the gaza border as well as try to retrieve the bodies of some israelis who were near the border fence area they the only thing we really know about that is that they did recover bodies and that they say they did not go deep into gaza and that's what's expected isn't it mary um a massive ground offensive israel saying it will strike hard in northern gaza warning civilians to get out now absolutely we continue to see these warnings since yesterday when israeli military first issue this order telling all residents in this area to go south that the north is part of gaza again that's half of the gaza strip where over one million people live is soon going to be an extremely dangerous area for civilians to be in that the israel plans to strike hard and strike extensively and they say that they are trying to do everything they can to try and protect the civilian lives in this area this of course is raising a number of problems is where are over one million gaza is supposed to go inside the densely populated strip with egypt also imposing a number of limitations and enforcing that blockade in the southern area making it extremely difficult even then for the palestinians to escape from this area so egypt is also playing its role but we have seen some mediation between egypt israel the u.s and qatar who have been trying to safeguard and try and get a route for these civilians outside of the gaza strip and right now most of those efforts are focusing on the foreigners who are trapped inside gaza strip at the moment so some 100 to 500 foreigners where they are now working frantically to try and get out before this israeli operation truly gets underway okay mary thank you very much indeed mary mccullough with the latest there from the border with gaza i'm joined in the studio by rafael irisami former senior intelligence officer for the idf thank you for being with us um just give me your interpretation of what's going on right now given what you've just heard well first of all we have already multi front war on the one hand the west bank is relatively quiet it's the dreary routine of every night arresting or eliminating terrorists but the west bank doesn't pose now threat strategically as a new front okay so the main why do you say that why do you say the threat because on the ground you you can notice that there is no increase in the attempts to commit terrorist acts but especially also you don't see any uprising of the palestinian population in solidarity with gaza they are in solidarity with gaza in their hearts but they are not obeying the injunctions of ramas to create an uprising to create havoc in the west bank ramas has been trying for months and years to obtain that result claiming that we are an insult to the temple mount to the alexa mosque all kinds of pretext and right now the palestinian street is quiet the plo is very quiet and silent because one must admit mr abu mazen the president yes the president of the palestinian entity is not unhappy with what is happening to his arch rival the ramas because on in the day after he might regain his control over gaza that he lost to the ramas the real worry now is the northern front we have more and more every day a slow increase of the let's call it so far provocations from the hezbollah we had now just now 30 rockets being shot at israel the ardor of area where there are a lot of from gaza no sorry mortars mortars are being fired from across the border in lebanon yes we have now i'm speaking of the problem that's added to gaza the northern front which is becoming worrisome because 30 rockets were fired towards the ardor area where you have a lot of linearity presence but also at the same time there is a fear that some terrorists might have infiltrated and in the case it's not for lack of trying they are trying so that that front might become a front now gaza right now we have only two things happening the weight weight the long weight of the ground troops they are waiting on the border and they're must on the border they're getting organized we're going to need for entering gaza at least two if not three divisions right now there's only one fully fledged and equipped division on the border so we're still organizing this ground entrance into gaza at the same time we are really trying our utmost to have civilians innocent people in gaza to evacuate the combat zone which is the minimum we can do for them and i think it's the minimum they can do for themselves is to evacuate and the minimum the united nations the red cross and all the engineers can do instead of saying it's not possible they should start to understand that the word impossible cannot be used when you speak of humanitarian aid nothing should be impossible you can't ask a volcano not to erupt in the next three hours it will erupt so they have to help they have to organize on the ground there are many many NGOs that are helping the Palestinian people their job now is to help them evacuate if you have a normal responsible parent and you have children you will not ask yourself if you have to leave the fridge or the telly behind and how long it takes to go whatever you just run you run for your life you take your children because you have been warned that you're going to be bombed that's a simple reaction if you have a friend you advise him to do so you're not going to advise him to stay so that's the first thing the second thing we are waiting now to see indeed what the international community we're doing in terms of pressuring Egypt to open its borders and we want a refugee camp in Sinai there's been a huge refugee camp in Turkey by Mr Erdogan it was under international pressure an agreement was reached Mr Erdogan Turkey accepted to receive millions of refugees from Syria Egypt can do exactly the same at least for the time of the war Mr Sisi in Egypt and all the international quality please do your job open the border parachute hundreds of tents hundreds of mattresses food and let these people just sit there away from the combat zone that's the only good thing you can do today after all the mistakes you've done so far and the last thing thank god your american presence because all that is happening now strategically okay we salute of course Joe Biden with salute very much the mayor of new york i think one of the speeches moving moving speeches is unforgettable in the martin Luther king school of speech you know moving you to the guts to the heart but really concretely their presence is a game changer and we're counting on them for our strategy well let's thank you Raphael we're going to get the very latest of what's happening in the north of israel our pia steckleback is there there's been some significant developments or some developments i should say in the last hour or so pia that is right laura about an hour ago his bala fired 30 mortar shells towards an israeli army post in the hardov region that is a region in the eastern side of the israeli border with lebanon fairly closer to syria israel as of now is still responding to that attack according to an army statement was published just a few minutes before we spoke they apprehended a group of infiltrators that were trying to launch an anti tank missile now residents in four towns in this area were asked to enter their protected areas their shelters and remain there until further notice of course as the fear of further infiltration attempt is is is quite present in the area now the hardov region is a disputed area fire exchange between israel and his bala is taking place there already six days ago and this is also the area where his bala earlier this summer had set up two tents on the israeli side of the border almost causing an escalation back then as a well now another scene where we got news from is the city of an aria which is south which is west south to us here about 13 kilometers away from here a bit more than two miles we are hearing reports that a rocket impacted an open an area in the city of narahia we were just hearing from the spokesperson of the narahia hospital the two people were delivered to that hospital one in critical one in syria's condition now the israeli the israeli army is saying that this incident is still under under under control they're checking the the this incident as they have not been alert triggered in the city of narahia there were no sirens so we're still waiting for information from the israeli army to come out on that incident if it was indeed a rocket that directly impacted in that city there now of course back to the infiltration attempt on the lebanese border only this morning a squad was apprehended of three palestinians apparently operating under his bala control who tried to infiltrate the border in the area of margaliot which is also in the eastern area of the israeli lebanese border they were as well apprehended and not far away from here yesterday there were reports and alerts that in hanita which is right next to the village we're standing in right now infiltration attempt was made after that again exchange between the lebanese side of the border and israel fire exchange where writers journalists was killed and former journalists were injured so here the northern side the northern front is very very much volatile and tense laura and pia tell us what's going on in the northern town of shlomi right laura i'll step out of the frame for you to see shlomi is a town of only a few thousand residents where many of the residents have evacuated the town already at the beginning of the war you can see behind that mountain bridge this is where lebanon already begins it is less than two kilometers a bit more than a mile far away from us we've been told by a soldier that is stationed here on the ground that 50 percent of residents have evacuated but this atmosphere is very very tense very calm we've only seen one person strolling around the streets it seems like more than half of the population has left and in fact the israeli army had closed off that town for the beginning of the week we were quite surprised to find that we can actually enter the the town again but as you can see really behind that mountain ridge that you're seeing now this is already where lebanon starts so this is one of the closest villages here in this area to the lebanese border we can also hear the sound of drones in the sky constantly above asian shlomi laura all right pier thank you very much for that update pierce deco back there is at the border with lebanon up in northern israel well all of this military action going on as israel continues to discover the extent of the worst atrocities perpetrated against the jewish people since the holocaust when hamas terrorists went on a bloody rampage in the southern communities in the south of israel we've been hearing story after story and we have another for you now yasmin lubin your sister is missing uh yasmin alina 17 year old alina is missing tell us your story yasmin hi can you hear me yes we can hear you go ahead we're listening thank you so first of all just like to say thank you for giving us and other family the opportunity to speak out about the horrendous things that are have been happening for the past eight days of course alina she lives with our father and on a saturday morning the attack began and we would just glue to the news and everything that was happening and then i got a call from my father and he told me that he he hadn't heard from her since 6 30 in the morning and that he that she was in zikim beach which is an area where the terrorists were they were there and from there from there on it just it was the roller coaster of emotions we didn't know what was going on was she taken was she even still alive and then we um i don't know how my father got them but he started sending me these photos and videos of her that some of them were uploaded by her boyfriend shahaf and others were uploaded by the terrorists and i don't know if you can show them on near they're very visceral um yeah you can see you can see them that's what we're looking at now yeah yeah they're the friends are just hiding and the 17 year old girl she asks are those terrorists i mean these aren't even words that should be uttered by a 17 year old girl i mean it's how it is and afterwards you can just yeah and then you just seen the the pools of blood and her friends i mean they were in their senior year of high school no one i mean i can imagine what their families are going through right now there they had their funerals for her the funeral for her boyfriend shahaf i think two days ago and it's just terrible and just seeing that that photo of her or a shoe in that pool of blood and eight days later we still don't know anything we don't know if she's even still alive and honestly we don't even know what's worse you don't know so you think she might be one of the hostages i don't know even hoping for that i don't even know what's worse it's better that she's already dead and not suffering anymore or that she's there and being tortured and god knows what else tell me about your sister tell me about alina what's she like she's very lively she likes going out with her friends if you saw her she had a tiktok it has a tiktok and she posts just the regular things just the regular things a 17 year old should be doing going to parties and going to school with her friends and just being home doing her homework she's just like a regular 17 year old and she just wanted to go to the beach and have a little swim and yeah i mean it's just i don't even know you're amazing to to keep it together like this because we're all struggling here when we hear these stories but all i will say is your sister sounds like a wonderful person and she loves life we love life we love our people we're all with you we are thinking of you all constantly all the time this is we're all in this together and we just hope and pray for you and i hope you get some some happy news at the end of this we pray for alina as well thank you thank you yes me take care take care of yourself just say one more thing of course you can i just like to thank all of you and all of the other news channels that are covering this because it's we're so appreciative of this i mean my father when he told me the news and then when he told me about her shoe and covered in blood that was the first time i heard my father cry yeah in 22 years of my life i have never seen that man cry and i could barely understand what he was saying in that message when he sent me so i just like to thank you all again guys so much yes i mean i've got a got a quick message for you from my guest in the studio rafael yosami go on rafael i just wanted to inform you of course like all the people of israel our heart is with you i just wanted to inform you through something that might little put your hopes up is that right now we're getting the first information from the interrogations of those terrorists who have apprehended and have been interrogated intensively by the shin bet and the first bits of information as where the hostages could be and what has happened is being now taken into account which will help a lot our troops underground and maybe the preparation of a commando operation so now we're getting more of an idea of what's been going on thanks to those terrorists who have been able to capture that thank you rafael so there you are a bit of something that might give you a tiny bit of encouragement of this this terrible time we're all with you yes means stay strong thank you yes me yes me live in there her sister is missing alina 17 years old well we value life some people not so much on the streets of london a huge anti-israel rally is underway i'm sorry uh mistake we'll get to that in just a moment because we're joined now by hussein abdul hussein he is an analyst at the fdd and he's here to talk to us now about what is going on and hussein we've seen thanks for being with us first of all and we've seen a lot of support for hamas on the streets of arab and european cities shockingly in recent days do these people represent the majority in these countries well it's hard to gauge it's hard to know whether these this is the majority or the minority from where i stand i know that there are many many herbs who oppose all of this madness who oppose hamas's attack hamas's massacre who want to see hamas gone who support peace and unfortunately these people who support peace uh they're often socially shamed they're bullied they're knocked out all kinds of stuff so they are not full and most of the time they're hiding and and the other guys the ones who are shouting and are bullying and are cheering for hamas these are the voices that you hear and most of the time i wouldn't see i wouldn't say all of these guys are um set on by someone but many of these protests have bigger are not as spontaneous as they look let me put it this way i think there are there are organizations that are you know work in favor of of of the organizations that support this regime who are somehow involved yeah they're they're they're very organized aren't they and this puts some arab leaders in difficult position though doesn't it and states like egypt and saudi arabia of course have repressed extremist movements within their own countries is there do you think they can't express it publicly but some sympathy for israel right now well i i think but what what they are saying most of the time is that there's the the most famous uh air peace initiative toward israel was endorsed by 22 arab countries or the all the member states of the arab league and this includes ones that we sometimes think of as radical governments including iraq or syria or lebanon all of the arab nations have endorsed peace toward israel and this puts hamas odds with arab consensus and i think this is being said all the time on air on arab seeking channels between the arab governments that hamas is against arab consensus hamas killed 450 Palestinian authority and kicked them out of gaza and it's 2007 hamas is not part of the plo which is recognized by the un of the arab league as they're presented with the so hamas is is an outlaw by any measure that you can think of so now it's come to okay we'll have to leave it down inside but thank you we appreciate it hussain abdel hussain there from the ftd well let's go to london now where there's a huge anti-israel rally underway uh jonathan satchel doughty is there jonathan tell us what's happening there is an enormous protest that's made its way through london today and some others in other cities around the uk there are many thousands of people on the streets waving palestinian flags and indeed this morning the headquarters of the bbc the national broadcaster was doused in red paint and they have not said yet who is responsible for that there's been some anger at the bbc by people who say they should be referring to hamas as terrorists and they refuse to do so but also there's often a lot of anger in these moments from anti-israel protesters and the dousing in red painter buildings is something that does tend to come out of their playbook for protests so that protest making its way through london saw many many people with smoke flares and placards calling for palestine to be free but also some incidents where for example i spotted they're in the crowd an al-nusra front flag which is another prescribed terror organization here in the uk the police had been told by home secretary suella briberman that they need to be very strict in these protests and make sure that if anyone is supporting prescribed terror groups like hamas but also presumably al-nusra they need to make arrests so we will find out later today if any arrests were made in this protest and if there were indeed any hamas flags as well there and i'm hearing that there there has been a threat from the government that people will be jailed for five years if they're caught supporting these terrorist groups but also this is a terrifying time for london's jewish community we've seen this horrible people tearing down posters of the the hostages in gaza that's right there were people who put up posters around london showing the faces of some of the missing children who were kidnapped by hamas and other terrorists in the south of israel and taken back into gaza and then we've seen videos of people pulling down those images pulling down those signs asking for more attention for those of course nobody stopped to ask those ladies that you're seeing on the screen now exactly why they had such anger against those one can only assume it is some form of anti-israel sentiment and that's really in the streets a lot the the so-called day of rage that was called for yesterday around the world also had many jews very afraid going out and about in london i think that most who are usually recognizable as jews from symbols or wearing a kippah or wearing a mug in david have tried not to do so out and about to think people are very afraid for their safety and today especially with those very large crowds protesting against israel only days after palestinian terrorists went into israel and slaughtered and massacred hundreds of people i think people in the uk worried that having experienced islamist terrorism here as well with the magisterina bombings in the past and also the london bridge attack maybe things could tip over here one day and that there could be deadlier attacks again here so i think people are very concerned johnson thank you johnson such a dotty there we're gonna wrap things up for the moment but do stay tuned live coverage continues here on i-24 news on this day eight of israel's walk with hamas don't go anywhere over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing we bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what hamas did follow us as israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north join i-24 news for the real story of what's going on me is ingresar in the link that appears on the screen within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity and we're watching i-24 news we're coming to you live from televieve it's day eight of israel's war with hamas and it's exactly a week since thousands of israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught on the south of the country and it's being seen as a green light from the united states from israeli ground offensive into gaza the u.s. sector of state antony blinkin has called for protection for all civilians two senior hamas commanders have been confirmed killed by the idf including the commander who plotted last week's massacre the idf says hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of hamas to stop them from leaving a senior egyptian official says that egypt israel and the united states have agreed to allow foreigners living in gaza to pass through the raffa border crossing in the west bank security forces have arrested 280 palestinians including dozens of hamas supporters israelis have been taking shelter today after a barrage of rockets hit central were fired at central and southern israel no casualties were reported and in the north on the border with lebanon the idf has thought it attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with hamas and hezbollah terrorists throughout the day the military says a number of mortars were launched from lebanon as well the iranian foreign minister in bayrut says its proxies in the region including hezbollah are ready to respond to any action by israel and between 150 and 200 hostages most of them israelis but many other nationalities among them as well are being held in gaza the hostages families say they've handed over medical information and medicine to the red cross in the hopes that it will reach their loved ones well let's get the latest on the military operation to destroy hamas our mary mccolliff is close to the border with gaza mary what's the latest i don't know if you can hear we can now yeah that's a little bit of it so in that background that explosions that you can hear there's a coming from the gaza strip this is as Israeli airstrikes are striking in the area in the past hour we've heard a number of different explosions this of course is coming just after an hour after israeli forces that quarter that they had given evacuees to flee from northern gaza to southern gaza they had from ten until four earlier today to go on two different roads in gaza and trying to get to safety inside the southern gaza strip so since that deadline expired we have been hearing very large activity from israeli forces and as you can see all behind me we see a number of different israeli tanks and heavy machinery that have been massing here near the gaza border this continues to be efforts from the israeli military to try and move some of their forces from throughout the country and move them closer to the area while they wait for orders we don't even know if they have orders or what exactly the operation to come is look like but we do know that idea forces yesterday do say that they went into ground excursions inside gaza to attack some hamas target positions and military positions where they believe weapons might have been hiding near the gaza border as well as try to retrieve the bodies of some israelis who were near the border fence area they the only thing we really know about that is that they did recover bodies and that they say they did not go deep into gaza and that's what's expected isn't it mary a massive ground offensive israel saying it will strike hard in northern gaza warning civilians to get out now absolutely we continue to see these warnings since yesterday when the israeli military first issued this order telling all residents in this area to go south that the north is part of gaza again that's half of the gaza strip where over one million people live is soon going to be an extremely dangerous area for civilians to be in that the israel plans to strike hard and strike extensively and they say that they are trying to do everything they can to try and protect the sylvan civilian lives in this area this of course is raising a number of problems is where are over one million gaza supposed to go inside the densely populated strip with egypt also imposing a number of limitations and enforcing that blockade in the southern area making it extremely difficult even then for the palestinians to escape from this area so egypt is also playing this role but we have seen some mediation between egypt israel the us and qatar who have been trying to safeguard and try and get a route for these civilians outside of the gaza strip and right now most of those efforts are focusing on the foreigners who are trapped inside gaza strip at the moment so some 100 to 500 foreigners where they are now working frantically to try and get out before this is really operation truly gets underway okay mary thank you very much indeed mary mccullough with the latest there from the border with gaza i'm joined in the studio by rafael irisami former senior intelligence officer for the idf thank you for being with us um to just give me your interpretation of what's going on right now given what you've just heard well first of all we have already a multi-front war on the one hand the west bank is relatively quiet it's the dreary routine of every night arresting or eliminating terrorists but the west bank doesn't pose now a threat strategically as a new front okay so the main why do you say that why do you say the threats because uh on the ground you you can notice that there is no increase in the attempts to commit terrorist acts but especially also you don't see any uprising of the palestinian population in solidarity with the gaza they are in solidarity with gaza in their hearts but they are not obeying the injunctions of ramas to create an uprising to create havoc in the west bank ramas has been trying for months and years to obtain that result claiming that we are an insult to the temple mount to the alexa mask all kinds of pretext and right now the palestinian street is quiet the plo is very quiet and silent because one must admit mr abu mazen president yes the president of the palestinian entity is not unhappy with what is happening to his arch rival the ramas because on in the day after he might regain his control over gaza that he lost to the ramas the real worry now is the northern front we have more and more every day a slow increase of the let's call it so far provocations from the hezbollah we had now just now 30 rockets being shot at israel and the ardov area where there are a lot of from gaza no sorry mortars mortars are being fired from across the border in lebanon yes we have now i'm speaking of the problem that's added to gaza the northern front which is becoming worrisome because 30 rockets were fired towards the ardov area where you have a lot of linearity presence but also at the same time there is a fear that some terrorists might have infiltrated in any case it's not for lack of trying they are trying so that that front might become a front now gaza right now we have only two things happening the weight weight the long weight of the ground troops they are waiting on the border and the mast on the border they're getting organized we're going to need for entering gaza at least two if not three divisions right now there's only one fully fledged and equipped division on the border so we're still organizing this ground entrance into gaza at the same time that we are really trying our utmost to have civilians innocent people in the gaza to evacuate the combat zone which is the minimum we can do for them and i think it's the minimum they can do for themselves if to evacuate and the minimum the United Nations the Red Cross and all the engineers can do instead of saying it's not possible they should start to understand that the word impossible cannot be used when you speak of humanitarian aid nothing should be impossible you can't ask a volcano not to erupt in the next three hours it will erupt so they have to help they have to organize on the ground there are many many NGOs that are helping the Palestinian people their job now is to help them evacuate if you have a normal responsible parent and you have children you will not ask yourself if you have to leave the fridge or the telly behind and how long it takes to go away whatever you just run you run for your life you take your children because you have been warned that you're going to be bombed that's simple reaction if you have a friend you advise him to do so you're not going to advise him to stay so that's the first thing the second thing we are waiting now to see indeed what the international community we're doing in terms of pressuring Egypt to open its borders and we want a refugee camp in Sinai there's been a huge refugee camp in Turkey by Mr Erdogan it was under international pressure an agreement was reached Mr Erdogan Turkey accepted to receive millions of refugees from Syria Egypt can do exactly the same at least for the time of the war Mr Sisi in Egypt and all the international community please do your job open the border parachute hundreds of tents hundreds of mattresses food and let these people just sit there away from the combat zone that's the only good thing you can do today after all the mistakes you've done so far and the last thing thank God the American presence because all that is happening now strategically okay we salute of course Joe Biden with salute very much the mayor of New York I think one of the speeches the most moving moving speeches unforgettable in the Martin Luther King school of speech you know moving you to the guts to the heart but really concretely their presence is a game changer and we're counting on them for our strategy well let's thank you Raphael we're going to get the very latest of what's happening in the north of Israel our piaz tackle back is there there's been some significant developments or some developments I should say in the last hour or so pia that is right Laura about an hour ago his ball of fire 30 mortar shells towards an Israeli army post in the hard of a region that is a region in the eastern side of the Israeli border with Lebanon fairly closer to Assyria Israel as of now is still responding to that attack according to an army statement was published just a few minutes before we spoke they apprehended a group of infiltrators that were trying to launch an anti-tank missile now residents in four towns in this area were asked to enter their protected areas their shelters and remain there until further notice of course as the fear of further infiltration attempt is is is quite present in the area now the hard of region is a disputed area fire exchange between Israel and Hezbollah is taking place there already six days ago and this is also the area where Hezbollah earlier this summer had set up two tents on the Israeli side of the border almost causing an escalation back then as well now another scene where we got news from is the city of Nahria which is south which is west south to us here about 13 kilometers away from here a bit more than two miles we are hearing reports that a rocket impacted an open an area in the city of Nahria we were just hearing from the spokesperson of the Nahria hospital that two people were delivered to that hospital one in critical one in serious condition now the Israeli the Israeli army is saying that this incident is still under under under control they're checking the the the this incident as they have not been alert triggered in the city of Nahria there were no sirens so we're still waiting for information from the Israeli army to come out on that incident if it was indeed a rocket that directly impacted in that city there now of course back to the infiltration attempt on the Lebanese border only this morning a squad was apprehended of three Palestinians apparently operating under Hezbollah control who tried to infiltrate the border in the area of Mar Galiot which is also in the eastern area of the Israeli Lebanese border they were as well apprehended and not far away from here yesterday there were reports and alerts that in Hanita which is right next to the village we're standing in right now infiltration attempt was made after that again exchange between the Lebanese side of the border and Israel fire exchange where writer's journalist was killed and former journalists were injured so here the northern side the northern front is very very much volatile and tense Laura and Pierre tell us what's going on in the northern town of Shlomi right Laura I'll step out of the frame for you to see Shlomi is a town of only a few thousand residents where many of the residents have evacuated the town already at the beginning of the war you can see behind that mountain range this is where Lebanon already begins it is less than two kilometers a bit more than a mile far away from us we've been told by a soldier that is stationed here on the ground that 50 percent of residents have evacuated but this atmosphere is very very tense very calm we've only seen one person strolling around the streets it seems like more than half of the population has left and in fact the Israeli army had closed off that town for the beginning of the week we were quite surprised to find that we can actually enter the the town again but as you can see really behind that mountain range that you're seeing now this is already where Lebanon starts so this is one of the closest villages here in this area to the Lebanese border we can also hear the sound of drones in the sky constantly above us here in Shlomi Laura all right Pia thank you very much for that update Pia Stechel back there is at the border with Lebanon up in northern Israel well all of this military action going on as Israel continues to discover the extent of the worst atrocities perpetrated against the Jewish people since the holocaust when Hamas terrorists went on a bloody rampage in the southern communities in the south of Israel we've been hearing story after story and we have another for you now Yasmin Lubin your sister is missing uh Yasmin Alina 17-year-old Alina is missing tell us your story Yasmin hi can you hear me yes we can hear you go ahead we're listening thank you so first of all I'd just like to say thank you for giving us and other family opportunity to speak out about the horrendous things that are have been happening for the past eight days of course Alina she lives with our father and on a Saturday morning the attack began and we would just glue to the news and everything that was happening and then I got a call from my father and he told me that he he hadn't heard from her since 6 30 in the morning and that he that she was in Zikim beach which is an area where the terrorists were and they were there and from there from there on it just it was the roller coaster of emotions we didn't know what was going on was she taken was she even still alive and then we I don't know how my father got them but he started sending me these photos and videos of her that some of them were uploaded by her boyfriend Shachaf and others were uploaded by the terrorists and I don't know if you can show them on near they're very visceral yeah you can see you can see them that's what we're looking at now yeah yeah they're the friends are just hiding and the 17 year old girl she asks are those terrorists I mean these aren't even words that should be uttered by a 17 year old girl I mean it's and afterwards you can just yeah and then you just seen the the pools of blood and her friends I mean they were in their senior year of high school no one I mean I can imagine what their families are going through right now there they had their funerals for her boy if the funeral for a boyfriend Shachaf I think two days ago and it's just terrible and just seeing that that photo of her or a shoe in that pool of blood and eight days later we still don't know anything we don't know if she's even still alive and honestly we don't even know what's worse you don't know so you think she might be one of the hostages I don't know even if you were hoping for that I don't even know what's worse it's better that she's already dead and not suffering anymore or that she's there and being tortured and God knows what else tell me about your sister tell me about Alina what's she like she's very lively she likes going out with her friends if you saw her she had a TikTok has a TikTok and she posts just the regular things just the regular things a 17 year old she'll be doing going to parties and going to school with her friends and just being home doing her homework she's just like a regular 17 year old and she just wanted to go to the beach and have a little swim and I mean it's just honestly I don't even know you're amazing to to keep it together like this because we're all struggling here when we hear these stories but all I will say is your sister sounds like a wonderful person and she loves life we love life we love our people we're all with you we are thinking of you all constantly all the time this is we're all in this together and we just hope and pray for you and I hope you get some some happy news at the end of this and we pray for Alina as well thank you thank you Yasmeen take care take care of yourself I just say one more thing of course you can I just like to thank all of you and all of the other news channels that are covering this because it's we're so appreciative of this I mean my father when he told me the news and then when he told me about her shoe and covered in blood that was the first time I heard my father cry yeah in 22 years of my life I have never seen that man cry and I could barely understand what he was saying in that message when he sent me so I'd just like to thank you all again guys so much Yasmeen I've got a got a quick message for you from my guest in the studio Raphael Yorisami go on Raphael I just wanted to inform you of course like all the people Israel our heart is with you I just wanted to inform you through something that my little put your hopes up is that right now we're getting the first information from the interrogations of those terrorists we have apprehended they have been interrogated intensively by the shinbet and the first bits of information as where the hostages could be and what has happened is being now taken into account which will help a lot our troops on the ground and maybe the preparation of a command operation so now we're getting more of an idea of what's been going on thanks to those terrorists who have been able to capture that thank you Raphael so there you are a bit of something that might give you a tiny bit of encouragement of this terrible time we're always Yasmeen stay strong thank you Yasmeen Yasmeen Lubin there her sister is missing Alina 17 years old well we value life some people not so much on the streets of London a huge anti-israel rally is underway I'm sorry a mistake we'll get to that in just a moment because we're joined now by Hussein Abdul Hussein he is an analyst at the FDD and he's here to talk to us now about what is going on and Hussein we've seen thanks for being with us first of all and we've seen a lot of support for Hamas on the streets of arab and european cities shockingly in recent days do these people represent the majority in these countries well it's hard to gauge it's hard to know whether these this is the majority or the minority from where I stand I know that there are many many Arabs who oppose all of this madness who oppose Hamas's attack Hamas's massacre who want to see Hamas gone who support peace and unfortunately these people who support peace they're often socially shamed they're bullied they're knocked out all kinds of stuff so they are not full and most of the time they're hiding and the other guys the ones who are shouting and are bullying and are cheering for Hamas these are the voices that you hear and most of the time I wouldn't see I wouldn't say all of these guys are sent on by someone but many of these protests have bigger are not as spontaneous as they look let me put it this way I think there are there are organizations that are you know work in favor of the organizations that support this regime who are somehow involved yeah they're very organized aren't they and this puts some Arab leaders in difficult position though doesn't it and states like Egypt and Saudi Arabia of course have repressed extremist movements within their own countries is there do you think they can't express it publicly but some sympathy for Israel right now well I think but what what they are saying most of the time is that there's the the most famous uh air peace initiative toward Israel was endorsed by 22 Arab countries or the all the member states of the Arab League and this includes ones that we sometimes think of as radical governments including Iraq or Syria or Lebanon all of the Arab nations have endorsed peace toward Israel and this puts Hamas at odds with Arab consensus and I think this is being said all the time on Arab on Arab seeking channels between the Arab governments that Hamas is against Arab consensus Hamas killed 450 Palestinian Authority and kicked them out of Gaza and it's 2007 Hamas is not part of the PLO which is recognized by the UN and the Arab League as the representative of the Palestinians so Hamas is is an outlaw by any measure that you can think of so now it's come to show why okay we'll have to leave it down inside but thank you we appreciate it Hussein Abdul Hussein there from the FTD well let's go to London now where there's a huge anti-Israel rally underway uh Jonathan Satcha Daughty is there Jonathan tell us what's happening there is an enormous protest that's made its way through London today and some others in other cities around the UK uh there are many thousands of people on the streets waving Palestinian flags and indeed this morning the headquarters of the BBC the national broadcaster was doused in red paint and they have not said yet who is responsible for that there's been some anger at the BBC by people who say they should be referring to Hamas as terrorists and they refuse to do so but also there's often a lot of anger in these moments from anti-Israel protesters and the dousing in red painter buildings is something that does tend to come out of their playbook for protests so that protest making its way through London saw many many people with smoke flares and placards calling for Palestine to be free but also some incidents where for example I spotted there in the crowd an al-Nusra front flag which is another prescribed terror organization here in the UK the police had been told by Home Secretary Suella Briveman that they need to be very strict in these protests and make sure that if anyone is supporting prescribed terror groups like Hamas but also presumably al-Nusra they need to make arrests so we will find out later today if any arrests were made in this protest and if there were indeed any Hamas flags as well there and I'm hearing that there there has been a threat from the government that people will be jailed for five years if they're caught supporting these terrorist groups but also this is a terrifying time for London's Jewish community we've seen this horrible piece in people tearing down posters of the the hostages in Gaza that's right there were people who put up posters around London showing the faces of some of the missing children who were kidnapped by Hamas and other terrorists in the south of Israel and taken back into Gaza and then we've seen videos of people pulling down those images pulling down those signs asking for more attention for those of course nobody stopped to ask those ladies that you're seeing on the screen now exactly why they had such anger against those one can only assume it is some form of anti-Israel sentiment and that's really in the streets a lot the the so-called day of rage that was called for yesterday around the world also had many Jews very afraid going out and about in London I think that most who are usually recognizable as Jews from symbols or wearing a kippah or wearing a mug in David have tried not to do so out and about I think people are very afraid for their safety and today especially with those very large crowds protesting against Israel only days after Palestinian terrorists went into Israel and slaughtered and massacred hundreds of people I think people in the UK worried that having experienced Islamist terrorism here as well with the Manchesterina bombings in the past and also the London bridge attack maybe things could tip over here one day and that there could be deadlier attacks again here so I think people are very concerned Jonathan thank you Johnson such a dotty there well we're going to wrap things up for the moment but do stay tuned live coverage continues here on i24 news on this day eight of Israel's war with Hamas don't go anywhere is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure the weight or the water above your head we're able to save energy this special edition on i24 news I'm Kaleb and David it is day eight of Israel's war with Hamas it's been a little more than a week now since thousands of Israelis were murdered in jet or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country now Israeli forces today continue to pound Hamas targets in Gaza with airstrikes in preparation for a likely ground offensive now the US has so far backed Israel's offensive all the way although US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken who is now in Saudi Arabia meeting there with top officials is calling for the quote protection of all civilians two senior Hamas commanders are confirmed killed in Gaza by those IDF airstrikes the commander who plotted last week's massacre along with the head of the group terror groups aerial forces the IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are now heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them from leaving a senior Egyptian official says Egypt Israel and the US have agreed to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rafah border crossing into Egypt on the west bank security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians including dozens of Hamas supporters amid sporadic clashes there Israelis have been taking shelter this morning in afternoon after a barrage of rockets in central and southern Israel there were air raid siren alerts in the south of the country just minutes ago though casualties have been reported and in the north on the border with Lebanon the IDF has thwarted attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire across the border with Hamas linked and his bullet terrorists throughout the day the military says a number of mortars have been launched from Lebanon at Israeli military sites speaking from Beirut the Iranian foreign minister says Iran's proxies in the region including his Bala are ready to respond to any action by Israel and now between 150 and 200 hostages most of them Israelis but many other nationalities are well or confirmed being held in Gaza the family of the hostages say they have handed over medical information to the Red Cross in the hopes and medicine in the hopes it gets to their loved ones well let's go to the north and our correspondent Pia Stakobach appears there just south of the border as you can see P what's been the situation a very tense day there in the north by the Lebanese border indeed very tense Kalev about two hours ago 30 mortar shells were fired from southern Lebanon toward an Israeli army post in the area of Hezbollah immediately claiming responsibility Israel firing back now the Hadov area is an area that is located in the eastern part of the border between Israel and Lebanon fairly close to Syria it is a disputed area Hezbollah and Israel have been trading fire there already six days ago right at the beginning of the war and this is also the area where Hezbollah had set up tense earlier this summer which almost led to an escalation back then now an Israeli army statement that was published said that they prevented a squad from infiltrating and they suspect them to have attempted to launch an anti-tank missile the incident is still also under investigation now this comes after this morning another squad coming from southern Lebanon was apprehended in the Israeli town of Magaliot also in the eastern part of the border with Lebanon we're hearing that there were three Palestinians operating under Hezbollah a command there now another scene in the Nahriyah which is a town southwest from us where we are at right now two people have been hospitalized after showing wounds that might stem from a direct rocket impact we have been hearing from the spokesperson of the local hospital that one is in critical one is in a serious condition the IDF says that this incident is under investigation but if a direct rocket impact turns out to be true it would be very concerning as there hasn't been any alarm or siren triggered so we're following up on that story as well we're waiting for updates on that Kalev briefly in the issue of civilians we know that several of those communities have been evacuated uh uh pia very true Kalev here in the northern town of Shlomi really not a lot of residents have remained this is a town of a few thousand residents i'll step out of the frame to really show you how close we are in fact to the Lebanese border right behind this mountain range this is where Lebanon begins we are less than two kilometers about one mile away from the Lebanese border here we spoke to a soldier here on the ground he said that 50 percent of the residents have evacuated uh Kalev the town has really become a ghost town here in Shlomi we barely see anyone here in the streets Kalev and this is the this is the situation in many settlements in many towns and villages here so close to the Lebanese border Kalev right in the north in the south as well ghost towns there piaz takobach and communities uh in Shlomi in northern Israel thank you for that now as we said the U.S. so far giving its full backing to Israel and its offensive against Gaza but there was this uh tweeted out by President Biden just about 90 minutes ago i'll just quickly read it the U.S. is working with the governments of Israel Egypt and Jordan with the U.N. to to uh surge support to ease the humanitarian consequences of Hamas's attack create conditions needed to resume the flow of assistance and advocate for the upholding of the law of rule law of war well joining us in the studio reserves IDF colonel Grisha Jakobovich former head of civilian of the civilian department of Kogat of IDF and an Israeli Palestinian relations expert and Grisha uh let us talk about a possible ground offensive that could come uh support so far for Israel but comments like this by President Biden uh Anthony Blinken in Saudi Arabia now focusing on humanitarian conditions in Gaza suggests uh that uh Israel may have run into some problems in countering Hamas there and may face some from potential limitations this is the expected humanitarian card that we understood that started three days ago when Hamas declared that electricity when Israel declared that electricity will not be supplied from Israel now let's not forget for years electricity in Gaza people got it only between something like six to eight hours a day so they are used to such a reality so from what I understand they exaggerate with the humanitarian crisis in Gaza so they will be able to get international community support to their efforts I hope that we all will be that we all be too smart enough not to play to their hands again because any humanitarian aid is actually be something that will help Hamas to continue fighting now we understand if they for example planned that this operation for them a war for us will take a month now they understand that it's going to take longer so there is fire management they are reducing the rockets into Israel and they push with the international community pressure on the humanitarian card okay that they actually pulled out and we are going to see that water UNRWA already said that people in Gaza will probably have no water to drink movement of people from the northern part of the Gaza Strip to the southern part of Gaza we should say has told the people of Gaza city that they should move to the south asked the people of Gaza to avoid casualties okay to avoid innocent people true but specifically advise them to move south of Gaza south of Wadi Gaza okay this is the area of the of the of the central camps at the Gaza Strip actually it's a quite open it's a little bit different than the northern part which is very densely urban maybe maybe maybe Egypt or the Turkish aid or maybe the rat cross or others can open tents there okay for the time being until Israel reach the to the goals that the government actually gave to the IDF but we will see the cemetery card growing okay and I understand the declarations by President Biden I also understand why Saudi Arabia one of the achievements that Hamas wanted to achieve is to stop normalization right which we should we should say that the yesterday reports of Saudi Arabia saying that they have cease talks on normalization of ties with Israel talks that they wanted with the US while this conflict is being but let's think about something maybe this is the new mediator in the future maybe normalization actually it actually maybe just a thought okay I want to explain that to our viewers you mean the Saudi Arabia assuming the role of a mediator in place of Egypt with and actually it actually achieving normalization from the back door okay let's think about it because Israel that's a step out to ahead of where we are maybe it's too ahead maybe it's too ahead I have this problem to say things a little bit too ahead I know that you know that also but let's let's look about Israelis is what the government of Israel actually ordered the IDF to achieve what Hamas will not return controlling Gaza okay it means the IDF is entering to a war already with a strategy built to understand what will be the day after so we need to think about that will Egypt continue being the mediator if so why Egypt close the border with countries right they are afraid that Gazans will not flee to Egypt right the move in Jordan with the secretary general Saudi Arabia now I don't know maybe somebody is trying to build something for the day after I'm gonna again you're being a little you don't want to speculate too much I'm gonna take a guess you mean maybe even a multinational Arab force that would I'm asking you we're speculating is that what the US could be looking at it's small it's more a guess than the facts that I know but it looks like in Arab coalitions being built okay that's how that's how it smells okay right that's what you mean to to to somehow have a role in Gaza administrating Gaza maybe but for now we need to be focused on the war in Gaza right and Hamas are trying to do whatever they can to stop Israel from continuing the war okay all right well I want to go down now or out to our Mary McCullough and still wrote Mary there was I don't know if it was in your area but where were apparently some air raid sirens in the south really just even in in recent minutes what's the situation and what's been the situation in the area there where you are hi Kolev yes so all throughout the morning there continue to be attacks originating from the Gaza Strip and targeting some of these israel southern border communities as well as the attacks we're seeing in the north israeli residents here in the south continue to be under this wave and threat of terror we're standing here in an area just near where there were also air sirens in the recent hours we heard a number of interceptions overhead we are so waiting to hear details if there were any rocket falls from those interceptions that we did here but again just moments ago sirens once again ringing out in nacho i'm going to step out of the way so we can show you a little bit dean is our camera is going to show you you can see these lines of smoke it's evaporating a little bit but all through this hillside and we're very near the israel gaza border about three miles away we can see the damage of all of these different falls that happened throughout the day so there's some smoke there on the horizon and then panning further to the left all of this area you can faintly see the smoke all throughout these little forests there are small little fires that we believe were caused by rocket falls in this area that weren't intercepted by the iron dome because the iron dome is not going to intercept rockets that are landing in an open area so we do continue to see the fire we continue to also hear israeli planes overhead and hearing reports from airstrikes within the gaza strip and in the city behind me you can see sterot of course we've been there throughout the week this is an area very nearest town city of some 30,000 people before the war now only 30% of residents remain and this is due to the constant threat of these rockets and fear again of infiltration from hamas and just trauma from the week that has passed here in the southern area right now of course marry a lot of big build up of israeli ground forces hiding around that gaza border area a lot of speculation about maybe a reportedly there have been some small incursions perhaps raids looking for hostages but give us a sense of what you're seeing and what you've seen there of israeli forces that a big build up around the gaza border especially in that area opposite for example in the north opposite gaza city absolutely collect a massive build up of forces who've come from all over parts of the country reserves who have been called up heavy machinery that's been in the area we've been surrounded throughout the day that we've been here by a number of tanks and armored personnel carrier who have all been massing along israel and gaza's border moving locations we don't exactly know where they're going or what exactly they're staging for if they're simply waiting for instructions but as you mentioned we of course yesterday did see those ground incursions that went into the gaza strip that was to try and attack some hamas positions try and root out some areas where they believed hamas terrorists might have been hiding near the gaza border as well as to recover some of the bodies so that's exactly what we what would have been used from those armored personnel carriers that we did see yesterday as well as today we continue to see there's them there as we continue to see this rescue mission from the israeli forces as they get ready to try and recover some of the bodies but we are also hearing the rumors and everybody is bracing for the moment the israeli forces do go in and do actually launch this mission to try and rescue some of the hostages so here in the area we can certainly feel it's coming we can feel the activity from all the israeli military forces it's impossible to travel anywhere in israel south right now and not see massive forces tanks personnel carriers all right mary mccullough in the sterile area and take care of mary of course uh as that area as you say is still plenty of uh rocket fire still coming down here and of course mary mentioned the plight of the hostages there were now estimates of up to 200 i won't just say israeli hostages but national people from nationalities of all kinds we know that's something like said at least uh close to up to 20 uh 20 nations civilians or citizens of 20 nations being held by hamas uh in the gaza strip now earlier i24 news spoke to jasmine lubin she is the sister of one of those missing that may be being held there alina vasper that's jasmine's 17 year old sister her boyfriend though has been confirmed murdered by hamas uh he was actually filmed them right before they came into where they were and killed him her alina's body not found as of yet let's take a listen to the concerns of her sister jasmine alina she lives with our father and on a saturday morning the attack began and we would just glue to the news and everything that was happening and then i got a call from my father and he told me that he he hadn't heard from her since six thirty in the morning and that he that she was in zikim beach which is an area where the terrorists were they were there and from there from there on it just it was the roller coaster of emotions we didn't know what was going on was she taken was she even still alive and then we um i don't know how my father got them but he started sending me these photos and videos of her that some of them were uploaded by her boyfriend the shahaf and others were uploaded by the terrorists and uh i don't know if you can show them on near they're very visceral um yeah you can see you can see them that's what we're looking at now yeah yeah their their friends are just hiding and the 17 year old girl she asks are those terrorists i mean my goodness these aren't even words that should be uttered by a 17 year old girl i mean it's her and afterwards you can just yeah and then you just seen the the pools of blood and her friends i mean they were in their senior year of high school no one i mean i can imagine what their families are going through right now they're they had their funerals for her boy the funeral for her boyfriend shahaf uh i think two days ago and it's just terrible and just seeing that uh that photo of her or a shoe in that pool of blood eight days later we still don't know anything we don't know if she's even still alive and you don't know she's we don't even know what's worse you don't know so you think she might be one of the hostages i don't know even if we were hoping for that i don't even know what's worse i know it's better that she's already dead and not suffering anymore or that she's there and being tortured than god knows what else tell me about your sister tell me about alina what's she like she's very lively she likes going out with her friends if you saw her she had a tick tock it has a tick tock and she posts just the regular things just the regular things a 17 year old should be doing going to parties and going to school with her friends and just being home doing her homework she's just like a regular 17 year old and she just wanted to go to the beach and have a little swim and yeah just tragic hearing stories like that creature we have the hostages we have to reckon with their safety uh as i said the international community also maybe starting the proportion is real a lot of questions about when israel is going to have to go to a ground offensive to be honest with you i was home last night prime minister netinell gave a very rare address on a on a friday night on the jewish sabbath i think like a lot of people i thought he was going to announce the beginning of the ground offensive so the question is what are the conditions that are going to indicate that now the idea is ready for that if it was a dramatic announcement last night but maybe maybe that's part of the game you know sometimes okay there are some statements coming from lebanon suddenly so something abu abaida is about to say something and it also creates some you know tension environment so maybe maybe maybe somebody's playing the same game let's let's just think about it like that okay a ground entry to the gossip i'm sure it will happen when it's good that we all don't know that but what would be the conditions what what would be your idea be waiting for in order to make that decision the conditions there are some conditions one is intelligence okay two is civilians three is the humanitarian card four is the tense from the north what will happen right so we had one test yesterday october 13th hammersfield right they expected that the whole middle east or all our borders will be inflamed right they called for a day of rage which didn't develop which didn't develop to find an axa and whatever and the second test as i said yesterday would be the ground attack right let's see what will happen then so i think that many soldiers many troops many forces forces already probably working in some places and i think that according to those conditions that i mentioned the ground attack will start yes or no according to that all right speaking of intelligence israel the security services the shin better shabak has released footage from the interrogation of a captured hamas terrorist uh speaking about last saturday's attack you offered up some new details about it let's take a look at some of that uh uh We're hearing it directly from one of those who took part talking about the atrocities that were done to women, to babies. He said that the beheading baby, some of the Israel's and including our own networks reporting on that has been challenged there, we're hearing. What is the value of the Shabbat of the Shin Bet, though, releasing that besides, for example, what's certainly part of that is just confirming the accounts of the atrocities we've heard. Well, we can be sure that the ones who do not support us will probably say that he was tortured by the Shabbat and that's why it is this testimony. Okay, but it's an irony why because two days ago, I've heard Hamas trying to show the whole world that they are not the animals that did the things that he just mentioned and blaming actually the civilians who entered after them after the broke the border. So he is testifying that actually Hamas fighters were the ones who did it. And Hamas fighters actually blame him. I don't know who did what, for fact I know Hamas attacked, Hamas opened the border, Hamas conquered the people from Gaza, Hamas 70 entered after them and all of them massacred our people inside Israel. All right. And it's against Islam, by the way. Okay. It's against Islam. So you are an expert in the Palestinian mindset, you've been dealing with them and through them throughout your whole military area. Give us a sense of what those leaders of Hamas are thinking right now. Those people like Yixin Sunwar, Muhammad Def, the leaders of Hamas and Gaza who planned this attack, especially now they have suffered some setbacks. As we said, two of the senior commanders, including the one that actually led those atrocities that was just described to have been killed. So what are they thinking right now? I don't know what they're really thinking, but let's do it real fast. They started the war last Saturday. For them, they won the war at the first six hours, okay? In history, they will be remembered. To make sure that they will not be remembered, you need to eliminate or to delete this victory. How? You eliminate Hamas. Exactly what the IDF orders are. Hamas on the ground, continue five parallel, okay? One is firing on Israel and they lowered the, let's say, the pressure with the rocket because they understand that if they plan to do it for a month, they will have to do it for two or three or four months. They understand that. Two is the humanitarian card. Three is the coordination with the nose, okay? All of that is to press Israel, to push Israel that the operation or the war will not be so long and that Israel will not be able to get or to gain the goals. Three is the issue of prisoners. They expected that families will protest against the government. And five is the, let's say, the international or the Arab world pressure on Israel. Normalization, yes or no. So, five strategies, okay? Supporting each other and they are actually, I have to flatter them. They are my enemies. They are trying to keep me on the daily base because I live close to Gaza and they are masters of strategy and they are doing a good job in that. But I hope they will fail. All right. Now I mentioned Secretary Blinken today in Saudi Arabia meeting with officials there, his opposite number, the Saudi Foreign Minister. He has put out a statement now after that meeting, I'll briefly read it. It said that he met with, Blinken met with the Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan. The Blinken highlighted the United US's unwavering focus on halting terror attacks by Hamas against Israel. The Secretary and the Foreign Minister discussed continued engagement with regional parties to prevent the spread of conflict in the region. And their shared commitment to taking steps to protect civilians. They also resolved to continue working together to end the devastating conflict in Sudan and Yemen. Again, as you mentioned, as you were seeing the footage now of that meeting. The Saudis on one hand saying very briefly that they're cutting off talks on the normalization to Israel. But clearly they're still involved in diplomacy here. Yes, a large diplomacy, as we can see. Actually they mentioned the proxies of Iran exactly in the same places where yesterday they demonstrated. So it smells like we are heading towards something new. All right. Okay. We'll have to see how that develops. I'm just going to just a very quick update. We did have rocket sirens in the south in the past about a half hour ago. We have no reports of either injuries or those rockets landing in occupied territories. And of course tensions continue in the north, firing the firing of mortar shells and across the Israel-Lebanon border and into the heart of the region. We're going out for a break now. Stay with us on our continued coverage on I-24 News. We'll be back in about 30, in a little over 30 minutes at the top of the hour with the latest news from Israel. Stay with us on I-24 News. Officially in a state of war. This is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking. Within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. Help us. We don't want to do it. We just don't know anything. Entire families, including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. Made for me, a unique concept in Israel, custom-made men's fashion to your measurements. Made for me, designer of all your events. Schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il. Made for me, official dresser of I-24 News. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This special edition on I-24 News, I'm Caleb Bindavid. It is day eight of Israel's war with Hamas. It's been a little more than a week now since thousands of Israelis were murdered, injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country. Now Israeli forces today continue to pound Hamas targets in Gaza with airstrikes in preparation for a likely ground offensive. Now the U.S. has so far backed Israel's offensive all the way. Although U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, who is now in Saudi Arabia, meeting there with top officials is calling for the, quote, protection of all civilians. Two senior Hamas commanders are confirmed killed in Gaza by those IDF airstrikes. The commander who plotted last week's massacre, along with the head of the terror group's aerial forces. The IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are now heeding warnings to move south despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them from leaving. A senior Egyptian official says Egypt, Israel and the U.S. have agreed to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rafah border crossing into Egypt. Now in the West Bank, security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians, including dozens of Hamas supporters amid sporadic clashes there. Israelis have been taking shelter this morning and afternoon after a barrage of rockets in central and southern Israel where air raid siren alerts in the south of the country just minutes ago. No casualties have been reported. And in the north on the border with Lebanon, the IDF has thwarted attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire across the border with Hamas linked and his bullet terrorists throughout the day. The military says a number of mortars have been launched from Lebanon at Israeli military sites. Speaking from Beirut, the Iranian foreign minister says Iran's proxies in the region, including his bullet, are ready to respond to any action by Israel. And now between 150 and 200 hostages, most of them Israelis, but many other nationalities are well or confirmed being held in Gaza. The family of the hostages say they have handed over medical information to the Red Cross in the hopes and medicine in the hopes it gets to their loved ones. Well, let's go to the north and our correspondent Pia Stackobach appears there just south of the border. As you can see, Pia, what's been the situation? A very tense day there in the north by the Lebanese border. Indeed, very tense Kalev about two hours ago. 30 mortar shells were fired from southern Lebanon toward an Israeli army post in the area of Haradov. Hezbollah immediately claiming responsibility, Israel firing back. Now, the Haradov area is an area that is located in the eastern part of the border between Israel and Lebanon, fairly close to Syria. It is a disputed area. Hezbollah and Israel have been trading fire there already six days ago right at the beginning of the war. And this is also the area where Hezbollah had set up tense earlier this summer, which almost led to an escalation back then. Now, an Israeli army statement that was published said that they prevented a squad from infiltrating and they suspect them to have attempted to launch an entire tank missile. The incident is still also under investigation. Now, this comes after this morning, another squad coming from southern Lebanon was apprehended in the Israeli town of Magaliot, also in the eastern part of the border with Lebanon. We're hearing that there were three Palestinians operating under Hezbollah, a command there. Now, another scene in Nahriyah, which is a town south west from us where we are at right now, two people have have been hospitalized after showing wounds that might stem from a direct rocket impact. We have been hearing from the spokesperson of the local hospital that one is in critical one is in a serious condition. The IDF says that this incident is under investigation. But if a direct rocket impact turns out to be true, it will be very concerning as there hasn't been any alarm or siren triggered. So we're following up on that story as well. We're waiting for updates on that. Briefly in the issue of civilians, we know that several of those communities have been evacuated, Pia. Very true Kalev, here in the northern town of Shlomi, really not a lot of residents have remained. This is a town of a few thousand residents. I'll step out of the frame to really show you how close we are. In fact, to the Lebanese border right behind this mountain range. This is where Lebanon begins. We are less than two kilometers about one mile away from the Lebanese border here. We spoke to a soldier here on the ground. He said that 50 percent of the residents have evacuated Kalev, the town has really become a ghost town here in Shlomi. We barely see anyone here in the streets, Kalev. And this is the situation in many settlements and many towns and villages here so close to the Lebanese border, Kalev. Right in the north, in the south as well, ghost towns there, Pia Stakobach and communities in Shlomi in northern Israel. Thank you for that. Now, as we said, the US so far giving its full backing to Israel and its offensive against Gaza, but there was this tweeted out by President Biden just about 90 minutes ago. I'll just quickly read it. The US is working with the governments of Israel, Egypt and Jordan with the UN to search the port to ease the humanitarian consequences of Hamas' attack, create conditions needed to resume the flow of assistance and advocate for the upholding of the law of war. Well, joining us in the studio reserves IDF Colonel Grisha Yakubovich, former head of the Civilian Department of Cogot of IDF and an Israeli-Palestine Relations expert. And Grisha, a lot of talk about a possible ground offensive that could come support so far for Israel. But comments like this by President Biden, Anthony Blinken in Saudi Arabia, now focusing on humanitarian conditions in Gaza, suggest that Israel may have run into some problems in countering Hamas there and may face some from potential limitations. This is the expected humanitarian card that we understood. It started three days ago when Hamas declared that when Israel declared that electricity will not be supplied from Israel. Now, let's not forget for years electricity in Gaza, people got it only between something like six to eight hours a day. So they are used to such a reality. So from what I understand, they exaggerate with the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. So they will be able to get international community support to their efforts. I hope that we all will be that we all be too smart enough not to play to their hands again, because any humanitarian aid is actually something that will help Hamas to continue fighting. Now, we understand if they, for example, planned that this operation for them a war for us will take a month. Now they understand that it's going to take longer. So there is fire management. They are reducing the rockets into Israel and they push with the international community pressure on the humanitarian card, okay, that they actually pulled out. And we are going to see that water already said that people in Gaza will probably have no water to drink a movement of people from the northern part of the Gaza Strip to the southern part of our we should say has told the people of Gaza City that they should move to the south. Ask the people of Gaza to avoid casualties, okay, to avoid innocent people, true, but specifically advise them to move south of Gaza, south of Wadi Gaza. Okay, this is the area of the of the of the central camps at the Gaza Strip. Actually, it's quite open. It's a little bit different than the northern part, which is very densely urban. Maybe maybe maybe Egypt or the Turkish aid or maybe the rat cross or others can open tents there, okay, for the time being, until Israel reach to the goals that the government actually gave to the idea. But we will see the cemetery card card growing, okay. And I understand the declarations by President Biden. I also understand why Saudi Arabia, one of the achievements that Hamas wanted to achieve is to stop normalization. Right, which we should we should say that the yesterday reports of Saudi Arabia saying that they have cease talks on normalization of ties with Israel talks that they wanted with the US while this conflict is being. But let's think about something. Maybe this is the new mediator. In the future, maybe normalization actually, actually, maybe just a thought. Okay, I want to explain that to our viewers. You mean the Saudi Arabia assuming the role of a mediator in place of Egypt with and actually achieving normalization from the backdoor. Okay, let's think about it. Because Israel that's a step up to ahead of where we are. Maybe it's too ahead. Maybe it's too ahead. I have this problem to say things a little bit too ahead. I know that you know that also. But let's let's look about Israel is good is what the government of Israel actually ordered the IDF to achieve what Hamas will not return controlling Gaza. Okay, it means the IDF is entering to a war already with a strategy built to understand what will be the day after. So we need to think about that. Will Egypt continue being the mediator? If so, why is it close the border with contrary? Right, they are afraid that Gazans will not flee to Egypt. Right. The move in Jordan with the Secretary General Saudi Arabia now. I don't know. Maybe somebody is trying to build something for the day after. I'm gonna again, you're being a little you don't want to speculate too much. I'm going to take a guess. You mean maybe even a multinational Arab force that would take control that would take control. I'm asking you were speculating. Is that what the US could be looking at? It's smaller. It's more a guest than the United Arab Emirates in fact that I know, but it looks like in Arab coalitions being built. Okay, that's how that's how it smells. Okay, right. You mean to to somehow have a role in Gaza, administrating Gaza? Maybe, but for now we need to be focused on the war in Gaza. Right. Hamas are trying to do whatever they can to stop Israel from continuing the war in Gaza. Okay, all right. Well, I want to go down now or to a Mary McCullough and still wrote Mary, there was I don't know if it was in your area, but where were apparently some air raid sirens in the south? Really just even in recent minutes. What's the situation and what's been the situation in the area there where you are? Hi, Kolev, yes. So all throughout the morning, there continue to be attacks originating from the Gaza Strip and targeting some of these Israel Southern border communities as well as the attacks we're seeing in the north. Israeli residents here in the south continue to be under this wave and threat of terror. We're standing here in an area just near where there were also air sirens in the recent hours. We heard a number of interceptions overhead. We are so waiting to hear details if there were any rocket falls from those interceptions that we did here. But again, just moments ago, sirens once again ringing out in Nakhal Oz. I'm going to step out of the way so we can show you a little bit. Dean, our camera is going to show you. You can see these lines of smoke. It's evaporating a little bit, but all through this hillside and we're very near the Israel Gaza border about three miles away. We can see the damage of all of these different falls that happened throughout the day. So there's some smoke there on the horizon and then panning further to the left. All of this area, you can faintly see the smoke all throughout these little floors. There are small little fires that we believe were caused by rocket falls in this area that weren't intercepted by the Iron Dome because the Iron Dome is not going to intercept rockets that are landing in an open area. So we do continue to see the fire. We continue to also hear Israeli planes overhead and hearing reports from airstrikes within the Gaza Strip and in the city behind me. You can see Sturro. Of course, we've been there throughout the week. This is an area very near a town city of some 30,000 people before the war. Now only 30% of residents remain and this is due to the constant threat of these rockets and fear again of infiltration from Hamas and just trauma from the week that has passed here in the southern area. Right. Now, of course, Mary, a lot of big buildup of Israeli ground forces. I didn't around that Gaza border area. A lot of speculation about maybe a reportedly there have been some small incursions, perhaps raids looking for hostages. But give us a sense of what you're seeing and what you've seen there of Israeli forces that big buildup around the Gaza border, especially in that area opposite, for example, in the north opposite Gaza city. Absolutely, collect a massive buildup of forces who come from all over parts of the country, reserves who have been called up. Heavy machinery that's been in the area. We've been surrounded throughout the day that we've been here by a number of tanks and armored personnel carrier who have all been massing along Israel and Gaza border moving locations. We don't exactly know where they're going or what exactly they're staging for if they're simply waiting for instructions. But as you mentioned, we, of course, yesterday did see those ground incursions that went into the Gaza strip. That was to try and attack some Hamas positions, try and root out some areas where they believed Hamas terrorists might have been hiding near the Gaza border, as well as to recover some of the bodies. So that's exactly what we would have been used from those armored personnel carriers that we did see yesterday, as well as today. We continue to see them there as we continue to see this rescue mission from the Israeli forces as they get ready to try and recover some of the bodies. But we are also hearing the rumors and everybody is bracing for the moment that Israeli forces do go in and do actually launch this mission to try and rescue some of the hostages. So here in the area, we can certainly feel it's coming. We can feel the activity from all the Israeli military forces. It's impossible to travel anywhere in Israel south right now and not see massive forces, tanks, personnel carriers. All right, Mary McCauliffe in the steroid area and take care of Mary, of course, as that area, as you say, is still plenty of rocket fires still coming down here. And of course, Mary mentioned the plight of the hostages. There were now estimates of up to 200, I won't just say Israeli hostages, but national people from nationalities of all kinds. We know that's something like at least close to up to 20 nations, civilians or citizens of 20 nations being held by Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Now earlier, I-24 News spoke to Yasmine Lubin. She is the sister of one of those missing that may be being held there, Alina Vassberg. That's Yasmine's 17-year-old sister. Her boyfriend, though, has been confirmed murdered by Hamas. He was actually filmed them right before they came into where they were and killed him. Alina's body not found as of yet. Let's take a listen to the concerns of her sister, Yasmine. Alina, she lives with our father. And on a Saturday morning, the attack began and we would just glue to the news and everything that was happening. And then I got a call from my father and he told me that he hadn't heard from her since 6.30 in the morning and that she was in Zikim Beach, which is an area where the terrorists were there. And from there on, it was just the roller coaster of emotions. We didn't know what was going on. Was she taken? Was she even still alive? And then we, I don't know how my father got them, but he started sending me these photos and videos of her that some of them were uploaded by her boyfriend, Shachaf, and others were uploaded by the terrorists. And I don't know if you can show them on the screen, but I don't know if you can show them on the screen. They're very near. They're very visceral. You can see, you can see them. That's what we're looking at now. Yeah, they're friends are just hiding and the 17 year old girl that she asks are those terrorists. I mean, these aren't even words that should be uttered by a 17 year old girl. I mean, it's her and afterwards you can just see that they were in their senior year of high school. No one I mean, I can imagine what their families are going through right now. They're they had their funerals for her boy. The funeral for her boyfriend Shachaf. I think two days ago. And it's just terrible and just seeing that that photo of her or a shoe in that pool of blood and eight days later, we still don't know anything. We don't know if she's even there. So you think she might be one of the hostages? I don't even know if you're hoping for that. I don't even know what's worse. It's better that she's already dead and not suffering anymore or that she's there and being tortured and God knows what else. Tell me about your sister. Tell me about Lena. What's she like? She's very lively. She likes going out with her friends. If you saw her, she had a tiktok. It has a tiktok and she posts just the regular things just the regular things a 17 year old should be doing going to parties and going to school with her friends and just being home doing her homework. She's just like a regular 17 year old and she just wanted to go to the beach and have a little swim and just tragic hearing stories like that creature. We have a hostages. We have to reckon about that. As I said, the international community also maybe starting to put pressure on Israel. A lot of questions about when Israel is going to have to go to a ground offensive. To be honest with you, I was home last night. Prime Minister Netanyahu gave a very rare address on a Friday night on the Jewish Sabbath. I think like a lot of people, I thought he was going to announce the ground offensive. So the ground offensive was going to happen last night. But maybe that's part of the game, you know, sometimes there are some statements coming from Lebanon suddenly. So something is about to say something and it also creates some tension environment. So maybe maybe somebody's playing the same game. Let's just think about it like that. A ground entry to the Gaza Strip. I'm sure it will happen when it's good that we have to think about what we're looking for in order to make that decision. The conditions, there are some conditions. One is intelligence. Two is civilians. Three is the humanitarian card. Four is the tents from the north. What will happen? So we had one test yesterday October 13th, Hamas field. They expected that the whole Middle East or all our borders will be inflamed. Which didn't develop. The second test, as I said yesterday would be the ground attack. Let's see what will happen then. So I think that many soldiers, many troops, many forces, forces already probably working in some places. And I think that according to those conditions that I mentioned, the ground attack will start, yes or no, according to that. Speaking of intelligence, Israel security services, the Shin Beto Shabbat has released footage from the interrogation of a captured Hamas terrorist speaking about last Saturday's attack. He offered up some new details about it. Let's take a look at some of that. We're hearing it directly from one of those who took part talking about the atrocities that were done to women, to babies. He said that the Beheading Babies, some Israel's including our own networks reporting on that has been challenged there we're hearing. What is the value of the Shabbat of the Shin Beto releasing that besides, for example, what certainly part of that is just confirming the accounts of the atrocities we've heard? Well, we can be sure that the ones who do not support us will probably say that he was tortured by the Shabbat and it's an irony. Why? Because two days ago I've heard Hamas trying to show the whole world that they are not the animals that did the things that he just mentioned and blaming actually the civilians who entered after them, after they broke the border. So he is testifying that actually Hamas fighters were the ones who did it. And Hamas fighters actually blame him. Well, I don't know who did what, for fact I know Hamas attacked, Hamas opened the border, Hamas conquered the people from Gaza under him, Hamas 70 entered after them and all of them massacred our people inside Israel. And it's against Islam by the way. It's against Islam. Now you are an expert in the Palestinian mindset, you've been dealing with them and you're at your home military area. Give us a sense of what those leaders of Hamas are thinking right now. Those people like Yehissin war, Mohammed Def, the leaders of Hamas and Gaza who planned this attack, especially now they have suffered some setbacks as we said, two of the senior commanders, including the one that actually led those atrocities that was just described to have been killed. Hamas was very fast. They started the war last Saturday. For them, they won the war at the first six hours. In history, they will be remembered. To make sure that they will not be remembered, you need to eliminate or delete this victory, how you eliminate Hamas. Exactly what the idea of all these are. Hamas on the ground continue five parallel strategies. One is firing on Israel. And they lowered let's say the pressure with the rocket because they understand that if they plan to do it for a month, they will have to do it for two or three or four months. They understand that. Two is the humanitarian card. Three is the coordination with the north. All of that is to press Israel, to push Israel that the operation or the war will not be so difficult to get or to gain the goals. Three is the issue of prisoners. They expected that families will protest against the government. And five is the, let's say the international or the Arab world pressure on Israel. Normalization, yes or no. So five strategies, okay, supporting each other and they are actually, I have to flatter them. They are my family. They are trying to keep me on the daily base because I live close together and they are masters of strategy and they are doing a good job in that. But I hope they will fail. I mentioned Secretary Blinken today in Saudi Arabia, meeting with officials there, his opposite number, the Saudi Foreign Minister. He has put out a statement now after that meeting. I'll briefly relate it. It said that he met with the United States on the U.S. unwavering focus on halting terror attacks by Hamas against Israel. The Secretary and the Foreign Minister discussed continued engagement with regional parties to prevent the spread of conflict in the region and their shared commitment to taking steps to protect civilians. They also resolved to continue working together to end the devastating conflict in Sudan and Yemen. Again, as you mentioned, as we can say very briefly that they're cutting off talks on the normalization of Israel, but clearly they're still involved in the diplomacy here. Yes, a large diplomacy, as we can see. Actually, they mentioned the proxies of Iran exactly in the same places where yesterday they demonstrated. So it smells like we are heading towards something new. All right. Okay, we'll have to see how that develops. I'm just going to give you an update. We did have rocket sirens in the south in the past about a half hour ago. We have no reports of either injuries or those rockets landing in occupied territories. And of course, tensions continue in the north firing the firing of mortar shells and across the Israel-Lebanan border and into the hard-dove region. We're going out for a break now. Stay with us on our phone. We'll be back in about 30 in a little over 30 minutes at the top of the hour with the latest news from Israel. Stay with us on I-24 News. Over 1,300 casualties and over 3,000 injuries, and the toll keeps climbing. We bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who manage to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what Hamas did. As Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north. Join I-24 News for the real story of what's going on. The minister revealed to me that in 2018, two years before Abraham's appointment, it was in the general assembly of the nations. It's a great pride to have been able to interview the minister the day of Abraham's agreements, to be in the right place at the right time. That's also it. The Forza is on I-24 News. Welcome to this breaking news edition on I-24 News. I'm Khaled Bindavid. We are now in day eight of Israel's war with Hamas. It's been a little long since the last time that Hamas was murdered, injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country. Israeli forces continue to pound Hamas targets in Gaza with airstrikes in preparation for a likely ground offensive. The U.S. has so far backed Israel's offensive all the way although U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken who was in Saudi Arabia earlier today and is now touched down in the U.S. civilians. The Saudis have reportedly frozen any further talks with the U.S. regarding normalization with Israel while the conflict rages. Two senior Hamas commanders are now confirmed killed by the IDF in those airstrikes, one the commander who plotted last week's massacre and also the head of the terror group's aerial forces. The IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are now in the southern area of the Gaza Strip despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them from leaving homes. A senior Egyptian official says Egypt, Israel and the United States have agreed now to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rafah border crossing into Egypt. In the West Bank, security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians including dozens of Hamas supporters. Many Israelis have been taking to their shelters in southern parts of the country. No casualties have been reported today. And in the north, on the border with Lebanon, the IDF has stored an attempt to terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with Hamas and his bullet terrorists throughout the day. The military says a number of mortars have been launched from Lebanon at Israeli military sites including the disputed Mount Dov region. Speaking from Beirut, the Iranian people have been killed by Israel and confirmed now that there are between 150 and 200 hostages in Gaza, most of them Israelis but many other nationalities as well being held there. The families of the hostages say they have handed over medical information and medicine to the Red Cross in the hopes it gets to their loved ones. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made his first visit to the Gaza border area today since the scene of horrific massacres against civilian residents there. Here's a bit of what the Prime Minister had to say. All of us, all of us now belong to the Gaza border community. From now on it will be called the region of revival. That's what we'll call it. Well we're joined by Skype by retired IDF colonel Dr. Jacques Neri, the former deputy head of assessment of Israel and in studio on Middle East correspondent Ariel Osso and Ariel. Let me just start with you, this Anthony Blinken doing some very active shuttle diplomacy Saudi Arabia, now with the UAE now reportedly heading to Egypt tomorrow. What is the aim of the US here? Well the aim of the US is one to play along or to continue this support for Israel with and passing on that knowledge of support for Israel to defend itself and to retaliate against Hamas and Gaza to key Arab players in the region. Also another attempt is to facilitate humanitarian corridors trying to pressure Egypt to open the Rafa crossing because it's not just Israel that did bomb the crossing but the Egyptian authorities are not allowing anyone to enter the Gaza Strip or to enter the Gaza Strip through that sole crossing and so this is something that has many many countries worried but also Americans because there are roughly six to seven hundred American citizens living in the Gaza Strip and they want to get them out. A third reason obviously would be to try and facilitate some sort of cease fire but that does not seem in the cards anytime soon so would be those first and to open the Gaza border to allow the Rafa crossing to allow also humanitarian aid to come in people to go out but also to make sure that the support, the diplomatic support that Israel is enjoying will also come from Arab states so far that is not really the case at least publicly in statements. Stay with us as I mentioned along Israel's northern border with Lebanon that area also heating up there was some attempted infiltrations today, rocket and mortar fire across the border. Let's go to Piestek Obach who is in the community of Shlomi by the right by the Lebanon border. Pia give us a sense of what's been happening today in the and the situation there. Alright Kalev, so about three hours ago 30 mortar shells were launched at an Israeli observation army post in the Haldov area. Hezbollah immediately claimed responsibility Israel responded. Now the Haldov area is disputed area. It has been the scene of fighting between Israel and southern Lebanon already six days ago. It has been also the scene of Hezbollah tense being placed earlier this summer almost leading to an escalation there. As I said Israel striking bad Hezbollah claiming that they were targeting Israeli monitoring and surveillance posts on the Israeli side of the border now residents in the area and at least four towns and villages in the area were asked to enter their territory. They did not come out until a further notice as possible more infiltration attempts are expected. Now in fact Israel prevented one infiltration attempt and a suspected attempt to launch an anti-tank missile by a squad coming out of southern Lebanon. Those are the recent developments from the Haldov area which is east from us located fairly close to Syria Kalev. And the situation of civilians in places like Shlomi that are right so close right there to the border this week including infiltrations. That is true Kalev in fact Shlomi is like a ghost town. This is a town of a few thousand residents and more than half of them have actually left the area. This is what we were also been told from a soldier here on the ground. Actually we're also standing here right next to a shelter our cameraman is going to show you the Lebanese border is in fact less than two kilometers away from here. This is the northern border. This is a bit more than one mile only. Now there has been an infiltration alert in a neighboring town of Hanita yesterday that led to exchange of fire between Israel and forces in southern Lebanon where a Reuters journalist was killed so the northern frontier especially in areas so close to the border is very very volatile and many people have been asked to evacuate and evacuated out of themselves as this area is just very very close to the Lebanese border or actual infiltrations like the one we've seen in the south only last weekend is very very real here up in the North Kalev. Alright P.S. Takobach take take care and stay near a shelter please. Thank you for that. Let's go to Dr. Jacques Nariyer and certainly an expert on the Lebanese front Jacques and we had the Iranian Foreign Minister today. Prisoner give us a sense of what his baller's strategy is what's their goal here and could the visit of the Iranian Foreign Minister be his attacks. Well Kalev we are already in a war of friction between Israel and Hezbollah although it is a limited confrontation in the meantime but definitely we have a deadline. The deadline has been described by Hezbollah or by saying that there's this red line that would cross and would provoke the immediate intervention of Hezbollah and this is the ground incursion into Gaza so this is what's happening right now and imagine a foreign minister of Iran behaving in Lebanon as if the Lebanese territory was Iranian territory saying very plainly and bluntly that militias the pro-Iranian militias and Hezbollah would intervene on Lebanese soaring and just ignoring the Lebanese sovereignty is something you know ridiculous. Right now of course Jacques we have the US Sixth Fleet and it's a largest aircraft carrier and plenty destroyers right off the coast there of Lebanon and Syria is that any kind of deterrence for Syria and most notably also specifically for Iran as it is supposed to intend to be. Well it is meant to say to Iran and Hezbollah do not mess with Israel but I mean I think the main task of the American Task Force is to intercept the ballistic missiles that could be fired from Iran Iraq deep inside Syria deep inside Lebanon north Lebanon and from Yemen this is what the main task that the Americans should take upon themselves because Israel would not have the means right now certainly not the quantity of missiles that could be fired to intercept those coming from those areas that I've already said they could come from. Right and what would be Iran I mean what would be the point a lot of speculation at which Iran would either give the green light to Hezbollah or basically the order to Hezbollah to attack would a ground offensive be a trigger for that? Well first of all let us say very frankly very openly candidly Iran succeeded in toiling the effort to normalize the relations between us and Saudi Arabian this is one we are at war with Iran let us not forget that it's not Hezbollah that we are facing it's not Hamas we are facing Iran which was the main architect of this war by creating the so called united front around Israel from Lebanon on Syria the West Bank Gaza and of course Yemen so this is what we are facing right now and it is a matter of time and certainly the ground incursion which will happen in the next hours will be the scene of Hezbollah intensifying its fire against Israeli targets we have seen right now and we could analyze from the ground that Hezbollah is concentrating on two areas Maitoulan, Mizgaban and Margaliot which is which means that the northern part of the Galilee that could be cut from Israel and on the other hand on the west side Hanita and Shlomi this is the area that could lead the elite units that Hezbollah has into the Israeli territory the main road to Naharia Alright Jacques, Jacques Naria thank you for joining us on I-24 News let's move now from the northern front of course to the very active southern front Mary McAuliffe as in the steroids and sterote that Israeli border town that has been largely evacuated but it's been another day of rocket fire in that area and of course right across that border Mary intends Israeli a** strikes into Gaza Mary Mary That's absolutely right Kalev So here in sterote there have been a number of different rocket sirens overhead and also a number of different rocket falls in the area this of course is an area that we have been talking about yesterday almost all residents were told to evacuate that was coming from an official order by the government the day prior but still there's some 30,000 30% of the 30,000 people who live in this town are choosing to remain despite being under this incessant rock and fire that's going on now for over seven days we continue to see some residents there are not a lot of people outside on the streets of course in this area as we know from the past couple of days you have very little time to actually get into a shelter from the time the rockets heard yesterday we were reporting and as soon as we heard that Seba dawn we also heard the rocket interceptions overhead after that rocket siren sounded so it's very short areas most people remain inside the only people we're really seeing on the streets are the massive military presence that we are feeling here in this area both who have been here since Saturday trying to protect this area as it was one of the first hit communities and also getting ready for whatever this soon to be operation that is coming and that the IDF has just said will be imminent and that they are preparing to take this war to the next stage and brigades and battalions and soldiers have been moved from all over the country to this area and they say they are ready to take this to the next stage which will be a massive operation that will be conducted from Israeli forces both by land air and sea alright well certainly a lot of anticipation onto possible that possible offensive to take place Mary McAuliffe in the town of Sterot thank you for that now Israel has released footage from the interrogation of a captured Hamas terrorist who took part in last Saturday's attack he offered up some new details about him he also confirmed some of the reporting that's been done including from this network about the atrocities that's taken place that took place during that attack let's take a look a little bit of that very interesting interrogation there confirming some of the details we had that had been disputed about for example the mutilation and beheading of babies interesting point there from what we know of we don't have the full details on that prisoner that apparently he may have been one of the so-called civilians if you want to use that term who crossed the border and also took part in the attack Hamas was actually blaming those people for the atrocities that were committed in places by Kibbutz Barry and for Osbert here you hear that young man saying no it was Hamas fighters that took place in the atrocities that happened look Kalev it's I mean these are really the worst atrocities you can imagine in the worst terror attack that took place in modern history I mean this is we've been covering these atrocities and taking place in the Middle East and Africa for years but they haven't really made it to the the agenda of the western public the US has led a coalition to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq but this really a single attack on such monstrous scale we haven't seen this and that's why we may be entering Israel may be entering a war but what happened last Saturday that was not a war that was a massacre that's important to clarify first of all now as to which of the thousands of Palestinians that entered Gaza whether they're Hamas official fighters from their elite commando or just ordinary Gazans who committed what I think we may never know exactly but it's testimonies like this that are very very important to kind of fill in the picture as to as to what happened now Hamas yes it's blaming civilians ordinary Gazans who took part in the chaotic first hours of what took place but you know there's also evidence of orders on documents that included orders on documents for the Hamas fighters the noob elite commando fighters 1200 of them at least that entered the community surrounding the Gaza Strip with orders to kill civilians to kill women they won't write down in orders to rape them but there's evidence that also fighters did it also civilians did it and so this is just another one of of the harrowing details that are being brought to light more and more mounting evidence whether it's by people who took part in the atrocities themselves people who were eyewitnesses to them that these things happened it is perhaps one of the most unfortunate things in this tragedy that people are questioning that these atrocities happened I don't think that is the focus that should be in the criticism these days around the world absolutely not that I will stay with us so we mentioned that US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and we'll be heading to Egypt tomorrow reports that Cairo has now is now will open the Rafa crossing at least for foreign nationals in Gaza to enable them to leave the Gaza Strip let's go now jump to Washington and speak with Haesam Hassan and Ajunt fellow at the foundation for defense of democracies and Haesam thank you for joining us first of all as I said before reports that Egypt is now going to allow foreign nationals in Gaza to exit through Rafa but still saying we're not going to let Palestinian refugees through presumably this is going to be one of the issues on the discussion with Secretary of Blinken when he gets the Cairo tomorrow how do you see that developing any chance that Egypt will change that policy first of all thanks for hosting me Caleb and please accept my sincere condolences on what happened recently in Israel I lived in your country for 40 years and really the possibility the hospitality and warmth I received from the Jewish people was unbelievable simply because I'm from Egypt I was just there a month ago and many wonderful friends and I made many new friends as for your question Egypt sees Palestinian refugees as a national security threat and this is for three reasons one Palestinians have a negative history track record when it comes to settling in refugee camps in other Arab states and creating lots of problems with their host countries obviously Egyptian authorities want to avoid that and this is why from day one when Israel started to strike Hamas targets in the strip and food waiting to enter Gaza and even the religious institutions in the country that they release the statements encouraging Palestinians to stay in their lands to sign I had the terrorism issue for the past 10 years and as president says he described it recently in April it was liberated from terrorism and it's time now to develop it entrance of Gaza's means means for Egyptians that some Hamas or jihadi operatives and recreate instability which will lead to clashes with the military or or conductor attacks against tourism sector and the peninsula and this is the last thing Egypt wants at the moment especially with its struggling economy and depending heavily on tourism lastly there is a long held conspiracy theory in Egypt that intentions of right wing government in Israel wants to push Palestinians out of Gaza for a two state solution right let me ask you Egypt has been a mediator between Israel and Hamas it's hosted Hamas officials what about now what is the state of the relationship between Egypt and Hamas following what has happened this week especially last Saturday over all Egyptian authorities aren't happy with the situation Hamas created either because of the uncertainty on the borders as discussed earlier or even mobilizations domestically in the Egyptian street among the Palestinian cause for the past decade the regime has been banning any demonstrations or any political debates in the country now things are opening up again and could make the situation get out of the control from their perspective you see shan chance on soccer stadiums fans are out on the streets so it's creating some uncertainty for them but obviously Cairo is trying to manage the hostage issue with Hamas reach the ceasefire which so far isn't welcomed by Israel in the US and not to mention also they have been coordinating humanitarian aid through the borders and lastly siding with them in media they're trying to compete with the Iranian and the Qatari narratives when it comes to inflammatory discourses in the region Egypt wants to save face and show it's the defender of the Palestinian rights of the Iranian Hassan and of the foundation for the defense of democracies thank you for joining us on I-24 news and joining us now in studio is reserves of IDF Major General Eitan Dango to form the military secretary to three defense ministers I just the IDF spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Garry giving a presser now he's discussing the Palestinian movement in the Gaza Strip the Israeli opposition to Palestinians to the southern half of the Gaza Strip out of Gaza City to the more open area south of to the central and to the south south of Wadi Azar right south and central but saying that Hamas is trying to stop them from moving south can be I don't know what exactly they are trying but we have to understand that we are in a stage that IDF is moving from defensive withdrawing and killing those who has been in our area we are very high on the process of ending this stage controlling all the villages around Gaza we return mostly the responsibility for the area and controlling it almost fully here and there some occasions we are on a process of moving to expand the military activity we are on the beginning what does it mean it means preparing many units to some options of offensive activities increasing the air force activities towards the main goal and the main goal is to destroy Hamas and Jihad Islamic capacities to be as a terror organization to break them but that can't be done entirely from the air it can be done from many kind of tools one of the things we are doing is to not to give a warm to the population from the center till the north part of Gaza this is the area where is the main command and control units, tunnels of Hamas to move from the area to save people life we are moving to the second stage Hamas is using them as a human defender for this human shelter for the people and it's a problem between Hamas and their civilians how can such their entity all the people it's not I think the IDF issue IDF is moving ahead and we have also some other tools we will use them we are making slowly assessment preparing professionality of the units changing the organization the preparations from two offensive activities it's a very important 2448 72 hours depends what it will be decided and this is the main direction continuing enriching the goal of this war with Hamas I want to go back to the Egypt issue Ariel because whether or not Egypt does allow some movement across the Rafah crossing for these Palestinians as they move south they are going to have to place some kind of role in terms of what's been talked about as a humanitarian corridor perhaps getting aid to those internal refugees in Gaza from my understanding Egypt has not allowed American dual nationals to exit the Gaza Strip the intent they are calling on their dual nationals to make it to the southern part of the Gaza Strip and similar to Israel's call and to approach the Rafah crossing so far my understanding is that the Egyptians have completely locked it down and are not letting anyone in or out because they do not want to see this influx of Palestinian refugees Palestinian civilians ordinary civilians in the Gaza Strip are in a real real big bind they really don't have anywhere to go and you have the Egyptians that are not allowing them to go through they do not want the Sinai Peninsula to become a haven for refugees perhaps one one half two million Palestinian refugees let's say at the end of the war they'll ask them to go will they agree to go Gaza is an open air prison no one's going to want to go back there so Egypt doesn't want to put itself in a situation where it has to kick them out the day after so it's trying to see what it can do right now as the way I see it there isn't really much it can do it can either allow refugees to exit the Gaza Strip and make some sort of even temporary base on the eastern part of the peninsula but as of now there are no indications that they have any intent to allow that to happen on their territory we'll see what develops at the meeting tomorrow with Secretary Blinken I'm sure he's going to be discussing those issues Ariel Osir on a time down go thanks for joining us and stay with us on a continuing coverage we'll be back at the top of the hour with more news out of Israel Israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity Gaza we will hit the Hamas we will destroy but we have our value and our culture part of the team that opened this place some ten years ago it was dramatic to come in here post construction blow the sawdust off the table and get to work building the first broadcast for the channel even with all the experiences of that first year and being here ten years later everything we've done since the news period of that summer of 2014 all leading up to the ground invasion of Gaza I was in the studio under rocket sirens rocket attacks where there would be one person left in the control room me sitting there seeing the news room clearing out the corner of my eye and continuing to talk to the camera about the moment we were in real confronts Hamas in and around the Gaza strip I've been exposed to the conflict for many years but something about that summer was just so much more unsettling than anything ever before maybe something inside me knew that there was more coming the big night came the night at the IDF ground invasion of Gaza we were here until well after two in the morning covering that exhausted and I went home I think it was by 7am already the IDF was calling me one of the mobile reserves here sending them off to the war we got those phone calls and by Friday night we were already told by our officers we'd be inside Gaza in 48 hours and you're going from one minute to the war a collective experience that somebody had that summer it's a wholly unique experience for me covering the war telling the story to the international audience covering those soldiers to the next day being one of those soldiers out there on the front lines I mean truly it's given me perspective that I've carried with me here ever since on covering this conflict Welcome to this breaking news edition on I-24 news I'm Khaled Bindavid well we are now in day 8 of Israel's war with Hamas it's been a little more than a week since thousands of Israelis were murdered injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country while Israeli forces continue to pound Hamas targets in Gaza with airstrikes in preparation for a likely ground offensive the US has so far backed Israel's offensive all the way although US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken who was in Saudi Arabia earlier today and is now down in the United Arab Emirates meeting with top officials there is calling for the protection of all civilians the Saudis have reportedly frozen any further talks with the US regarding normalization with Israel while the conflict rages two senior Hamas commanders are now confirmed killed by the IDF in those airstrikes one the commander who plotted last week's massacre and also the head of the terror group's aerial forces the IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are now heeding warnings to move to the southern area of the Gaza Strip despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them from leaving homes a senior Egyptian official says Egypt, Israel and the United States have agreed now to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rafah border crossing into Egypt in the West Bank security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians including dozens of Hamas supporters many Israelis have been taking to their shelters throughout the day through a barrage of rockets at central and southern parts of the country no casualties have been reported today and in the north on the border with Lebanon the IDF has thought of an attempt to terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with Hamas and his bullet terrorists throughout the day the military says a number of mortars have been launched for Lebanon at Israeli military sites including the disputed Mount Dov region speaking from Beirut the Iranian Foreign Minister said its proxies in the region including his bullet are ready to respond to any action by Israel and confirm now that there are between 150 and 200 hostages in Gaza most of them Israelis but many other nationalities as well being held there the families of the hostages say they have handed over medical information and medicine to the Red Cross in the hopes it gets to their loved ones Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made his first visit to the Gaza border area today since the Hamas invasion began visiting Kibbutz Berry and Kibbutz Farazah a scene of horrific massacres against civilian residents there here's a bit of what the Prime Minister had to say all of us now belong to the Gaza border community from now on it will be called the region of revival that's what we'll call it we're joined by Skype with the F Colonel Dr. Jacques Neri the former Deputy Head of Assessment of Israeli Military Intelligence and in studio on Middle East correspondent Ariel Osso and Ariel let me just start with you this Anthony Blinken doing some very active shuttle diplomacy Saudi Arabia now with the UAE now reportedly heading to Egypt tomorrow what is the aim of the US here well the aim of the US is one to to play along to continue this support for Israel and passing on that message of support for Israel to defend itself and to retaliate against Hamas and Gaza to key Arab players in the region also another attempt is to facilitate humanitarian corridors trying to pressure Egypt to open the Rafa crossing because it's not just Israel that did bomb the crossing but the Egyptian authorities are not allowing anyone to enter the Gaza Strip or to exit the Gaza Strip through that sole crossing and so this is something that has many many countries worried but also Americans because there are roughly 6 to 700 American citizens living in the Gaza Strip and they want to get them out a third reason obviously would be to try and facilitate some sort of ceasefire but that does not seem in the cards anytime soon so it would be those first two goals one to try and to open the Gaza border to allow the Rafa crossing to allow also humanitarian aid to come in people to go out but also to make sure that the support the diplomatic support that Israel is enjoying will also come from Arab states so far that is not really the case at least publicly in statements stay with us as I mentioned Israel's northern border with Lebanon that area also heating up there were some attempted infiltrations today rocket and mortar fire across the border let's go to a Piesteco Bach who is in the community of Shlomi by the right by the Lebanon border Pia give us a sense of what's been happening today in the situation there right Kalev so about three hours ago 30 mortar shells were launched at an Israeli observation army post in the Hadov area Hezbollah immediately claimed responsibility Israel responded now the Hadov area is a disputed area it has been the scene of fighting between Israel and southern Lebanon already six days ago it has been also the scene of Hezbollah tense being placed earlier the summer almost leading to an escalation there as I said Israel striking bad Hezbollah claiming that they were targeting Israeli monitoring and surveillance posts on the Israeli side of the border now residents in the area four towns and villages in the area were asked to enter their protected areas their shelters and not come out until a further notice as possible more infiltration attempts are expected now in fact Israel prevented one infiltration attempt and a suspected attempt to launch an anti-tank missile by a squad coming out of southern Lebanon those are the recent developments from the Hadov area which is east from us located fairly close to Syria Kalev and the situation of civilians in places so close right there to the Israeli border and that have suffered attacks during the course of this week including infiltrations that is true Kalev in fact Shlomi is like a ghost town this is a town of a few thousand residents and more than half of them have actually left the area this is what we were also been told from a soldier here on the ground actually we're also standing here right next to a shelter our cameraman is going to show you the Lebanese border is in fact less than two kilometers away from here this is the shelter we are standing next to this is a bit more than one mile only now there has been an infiltration alert in a neighboring town of Hanita yesterday that to exchange a fire between Israel and forces in southern Lebanon where a Reuters journalist was killed so the northern frontier especially an area so close to the border is very very volatile and many people have been asked to evacuate and evacuated themselves as this area is just very very close to the Lebanese border and the fear of infiltration attempts or actual infiltrations like the one we've seen in the south only last weekend is very very real here up in the north Kalev. Alright Piaz Takobach take take care and stay near a shelter please thank you for that. Let's go to Dr. Jacques Narriere and certainly an expert on the Lebanese front Jacques and we had the Iranian Foreign Minister today. First I'll give us a sense of what is going on here and could the visit of the Iranian Foreign Minister indicate perhaps an escalation of these attacks. Well Kalev we are already in a war of friction between Israel and Hezbollah although it is a limited confrontation in the meantime but definitely we have a deadline. The deadline has been has been described by Hezbollah by saying that there is this red line that Israel would cross and would provoke the immediate intervention of Hezbollah and this is the ground incursion into Gaza. So this is what's happening right now and imagine Foreign Minister of Iran behaving in Lebanon as if the Lebanese territory was Iranian territory saying very plainly that militias, the Iranian militias and Hezbollah would intervene on Lebanese soaring and just ignoring the Lebanese sovereignty is something ridiculous. Right now of course Jacques we have the US 6th fleet and it's a largest aircraft carrying plenty destroyers right off the coast there of Lebanon and Syria is that any kind of deterrence for Syria and most notably also specifically for Iran as it is supposed to intend to be? Well it is meant to say to Iran and Hezbollah do not mess with Israel but I mean I think the main task of the American task force is to intercept the ballistic missiles that could be fired from Iran, Iraq deep inside Syria deep inside Lebanon, north Lebanon and from Yemen. This is what the main task that the Americans should take upon themselves because Israel would not have the means right now certainly not the quantity of missiles that could be fired to intercept those coming from those areas that I've already said they could come from. Right and what would be Iran, I mean what would be the point, a lot of speculation at which Iran would either give the green light to Hezbollah or basically the order to attack. Would a ground offensive be a trigger for that? Well you know first of all let us say very frankly, very openly candidly Iran succeeded in toiling the effort to normalize the relations between us and Saudi Arabia. This is wrong. We are at all with Iran. Let us not forget that. It's not Hezbollah that we are facing. It's not Hamas we are facing Iran which was the main architect of this war by creating the so called united front around Israel from Lebanon, Syria the West Bank, Gaza and of course Yemen. So this is what we are facing right now and it is a matter of time and certainly the ground incursion which will happen in the next hours will be the scene of Hezbollah intensifying its fire against Israeli targets. We have seen right now and we could analyze from the ground that Hezbollah is concentrating on two areas Mehtullah, Mizgabar and Margaliot which means that the northern part of the Galilee that could be cut from Israel and on the other hand on the western side Hanita and Shlomi. This is the area that could lead the elite units that Hezbollah has into the Israeli territory the main road to Nahariah. Alright Jacques, Jacques Nariah, thank you for joining us on I24 news. Let's move now from the northern front of course to the very active southern front. Mary McAuliffe is in the Steroid that Israeli border town has been another day of rocket fire in that area and of course right across that border where you have very intense Israeli airstrikes into Gaza, Mary. That's absolutely right Kuliffe. So here in Steroid there have been a number of different rocket sirens overhead and also a number of different rocket falls in the area. This of course is an area that we have been talking about yesterday. Almost all residents were told to evacuate that was coming from an area of 30,000 30% of the 30,000 people who live in this town are choosing to remain in this area despite being under this incessant rocket fire that's going on now for over seven days. We continue to see some residents there are not a lot of people outside on the streets. Of course in this area as we know from the past couple of days you have very little time to actually get into a shelter from the time the rockets heard yesterday. We were reporting and as soon as we heard that say about this area, most people remain inside. The only people we're really seeing on the streets are the massive military presence that we are feeling here in this area, both who have been here since Saturday trying to protect this area as it was one of the first hit communities and also getting ready for whatever this soon to be operation that is coming and that the IDF has just said will be imminent and that they are preparing to take this war to the next stage and brigades and battalions and soldiers have been moved to the next stage which will be a massive operation that will be conducted from Israeli forces both by land, air and sea. Alright, well certainly a lot of anticipation on the possible that possible offensive to take place. Mary McAuliffe in the town of Sterot thank you for that. Now Israel has released footage from the interrogation of a captured Hamas terrorist who took part in last Saturday's attack. He offered up some details about it. He also confirmed some of the reporting that's been done including from this network about the atrocities that's taken place that took place during that attack. Let's take a look a little bit of that. I have a very interesting interrogation there confirming some of the details we had that had been disputed about for example the mutilation and beheading of babies. Interesting point there from what we know of we don't have the full details on that prisoner that apparently he may have been one of these so-called civilians if you want to use that term who crossed the border and also took part in the attack. Hamas was actually blaming those people for the atrocities that were committed at places by Keith Butts-Berry and Faraz but here you hear that young man saying no it was Hamas fighters that took place in the atrocities that happened. Look Kalev it's I mean these are really the worst atrocities you can imagine in the worst terror attack that took place in modern history. We've been covering these atrocities and taking place in the Middle East and Africa for years but they haven't really made it to the agenda of the western public. The US has let a coalition to fight ISIS in Syria and Iraq but this really a single attack on such monstrous scale we haven't seen this and that's why we may be entering a war but what happened last Saturday that was not a war that was a massacre that's one thing that's important to clarify first of all. Now as to which of the thousands of Palestinians that entered Gaza whether they're Hamas official fighters from their elite commando or just ordinary Gazans who committed what I think we may never know exactly but it's testimonies like this that are very very important to kind of fill in the picture as to what happened. Now Hamas yes it's blaming ordinary civilians ordinary Gazans who took part in the chaotic first hours of what took place but there's also evidence of orders on documents that included orders on documents for the Hamas fighters the Nukhba elite commando fighters 1200 of them at least that entered the community surrounding the Gaza Strip with orders to kill civilians to kill women they won't write down in orders to rape them but there's evidence that also fighters did it also civilians did it and so this is just another one of the harrowing details that are bringing brought to light more and more mounting evidence whether it's by people who took part in the atrocities themselves people who were eyewitnesses to them that these things happened it is perhaps one of the most unfortunate things in this tragedy that people are questioning that these atrocities happened I don't think that is the focus that should be in the criticism these days around the world. Absolutely not that I'll stay with us so we mentioned that US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and we'll be heading to Egypt tomorrow reports that Cairo has now is now openly crossing at least for foreign nationals in Gaza to enable foreign nationals in Gaza to exit through Rafah but still is saying we're not going to let Palestinian refugees throw presumably this is going to be one of the issues on the discussion with Secretary of Blinken and we're going to talk a little bit about what is going to happen in Egypt and what is going to happen and what is going to happen and what is going to happen and what is going to happen is on the discussion with Secretary of Blinken when he gets the Cairo tomorrow how do you see this developing any chance that Egypt will change that policy first of all thanks for hosting me Caleb and please accept my sincere condolences on what happened recently in Israel I lived in your country for 40 years and really the hospitality and warmth I received from the Jewish people was I made many new friends and they all deserve to live in peace and dignity, to say the least. As for your question, Egypt sees Palestinian refugees as a national security threat. And this is for three reasons. One Palestinians have a negative history track record when it comes to settling in refugee camps in other Arab states and creating lots of problems with their host countries. Obviously Egyptian authorities want to avoid that. And this is why from day one when Israel started to restrike Hamas targets in the Strip, Egypt sent to ride away trucks full of medical supplies and food waiting to enter Gaza. And even the relations and institutions in the country deliberately released statements encouraging Palestinians to stay in their lands. Two, Sinai had the terrorism issue for the past 10 years. And as President Sisi described it recently in April, it was liberated from terrorism and it's time now to develop it. Entrance of Gaza means means for Egyptians that some Hamas or jihadi operatives could sneak in among civilians and recreate instability, which will lead to clashes with the military or or conductor attacks against tourism sector and the peninsula. And this is the last thing Egypt wants at the moment, especially with its struggling economy and depending heavily on to tourism. Lastly, there is a long held the conspiracy theory in Egypt that intentions of right wing government in Israel wants to push Palestinians out of Gaza into Sinai as an alternative for two state institutions. Right. Let me ask you, of course, Egypt has been a mediator between Israel and Hamas. It's kept open. It's hosted Hamas officials. What about now? What is it would be state of the relationship between Egypt and Hamas following what has happened this week, especially last Saturday? Overall, Egyptian authorities aren't happy with the situation Hamas created, either because of the uncertainty on the borders, as I discussed earlier, or even mobilizations domestically in the Egyptian street among the Palestinian cause. For the past decade, the regime has been banning any demonstrations or any political debates in the country. Now things are opening up again and could make the situation get out of the control from their perspective. You see Shann, Shann's on soccer stadiums, fans are out on the streets. So it's creating some uncertainty for them. But obviously, Cairo is trying to manage the hostage issue with Hamas, reach the ceasefire, which so far isn't welcomed by Israel and the US. And not to mention also, they have been coordinating humanitarian aid through the borders. And lastly, siding with them in media. They're trying to compete with the Iranian and Bakatari narratives when it comes to inflammatory discourses in the region. Egypt wants to save face and show it's the defender of the Palestinian rights. All right. Hi, some Hassan and Hassan and the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Thank you for joining us on I24 News. And joining us now in studio is Reserves IDF Major General Eitan Dango, the former military secretary to three defense ministers. I just, the IDF spokesperson, Rear Admiral Daniel Garry giving a presser now. He's discussing the Palestinian movement in the Gaza Strip, the Israeli recommendation to Palestinians to move to the southern half of the Gaza Strip out of Gaza City to the more open area south of Wadi. South to the central and to the south. Right, south of Wadi Azar, right, south and central. But saying that Hamas is trying to stop them from moving south. Can be. I don't know what exactly they are trying, but we have to understand that we are in a stage that IDF is moving from defensive, destroying and killing those who has been in our area. We are very high on the process of ending this stage, controlling all the villages Kibbutzim around Gaza. We return mostly the responsibility for the area and controlling it almost fully. They are here and there some occasions. We are on a process of moving to expand the military activity. We are on the beginning. What does it mean? It means preparing many units to some options of offensive activities, increasing the air force activities towards the main goal. And the main goal is to destroy Hamas and Jihad Islamic capacities to be as a terror organization, to break them. But that can't be done entirely from the air. It can be done from many kinds of tools. One of the things we are doing is to not to give a warm to the population from the center till the north part of Gaza. This is the area where is the main command and control units, tunnels of Hamas to move from the area to save people's life. We are moving to the second stage. Hamas is using them as a human defender for their this human shelter for these people. And it's a problem between Hamas and their civilians. How can such terror entity and people, all the people, it's not, I think, the IDF issue. IDF is moving ahead. And we have also some other tools. We will use them. We are making slowly assessment, preparing professionality of the units, changing the organization, the preparations from defend to offensive activities. It's a very important 24, 48, 72 hours depends what it will be decided. And this is the main direction, continuing in reaching the goal of this war with Hamas. I want to go back to the Egypt issue, Ariel, because whether or not Egypt does allow some movement across the Rafah crossing for these Palestinians as they move south, they are going to have to play some kind of role in terms of what's been talked about as a humanitarian corridor, perhaps getting aid to those internal refugees in Gaza. Look, from my understanding, Egypt has not allowed American dual nationals to exit the Gaza Strip. They're calling on their dual nationals to make it to the southern part of the Gaza Strip, similar to Israel's call, and to approach the Rafah crossing. But so far, my understanding is that the Egyptians have completely locked it down and are not letting anyone in or out because they do not want to see this influx of Palestinian refugees. Palestinian civilians, ordinary civilians in the Gaza Strip are in a real big bind. They really don't have anywhere to go. And you have the Egyptians that are not allowing them to go through. They do not want the Sinai Peninsula to become a haven for refugees, perhaps. One, one and a half, two million Palestinian refugees, let's say at the end of the war, they'll ask them to go. Will they agree to go? Gaza's an open air prison. No one's going to want to go back there. So Egypt doesn't want to put itself in a situation where it has to kick them out the day after. So it's trying to see what it can do right now as the way I see it. There isn't really much it can do. It can either allow refugees to exit the Gaza Strip and make some sort of even temporary base on the eastern part of the peninsula. But as of now, there are no indications that they have any intent to allow that to happen on their territory. We'll see what develops at the meeting tomorrow with Secretary Blinken. I'm sure he's going to be discussing those issues. Ariel Oceran, Eitan Dango. Thanks for joining us. And stay with us on a continuing coverage. We'll be back at the top of the hour with more news out of Israel. State of war. This is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking. Within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. Help us. We don't know what to do. We just don't know anything. Entire families, including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds. Awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. It's natural. From the beginning, from the fish to the production of food from the plants. Because we go subsea and we utilize the hydrostatic pressure, the weight or the water above your head, we're able to save energy. Thank you. In the news edition of I-24 News, I'm Kaleb and David, we're in day eight of Israel's war against Hamas. It's been a little more than a week since thousands of Israelis were murdered, injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country. Israeli forces continue to pound Hamas targets in Gaza with airstrikes and artillery in preparation for a likely ground offensive. The U.S. is so far back to Israel's offensive all the way, although U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, who was in Saudi Arabia earlier today and is now in the United Arab Emirates, meeting with top officials there, is calling for the protection of all civilians on both sides. Saudis have reportedly frozen any further talks with the U.S. regarding normalization with Israel. Two senior Hamas and commanders are confirmed to have been killed by the IDF. One, the commander who plotted last week's massacre, along with the head of the Hamas Group's aerial forces. Now, the IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move to the southern area of the Gaza Strip, despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them. An Egyptian official says Egypt, the U.S. and the United Egypt, Israel and the U.S. have agreed to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rafah border crossing into Egypt. It's not clear though that that is happening. In the West Bank, security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians, including dozens of Hamas borders during sporadic clashes throughout the day. Now, many Israelis have been taking their Shroud shelters throughout the day. That's after a barrage of rockets hit central and southern Israel. No casualties reported. And in the north on the border of Lebanon, the IDF has thought it attempted terrorist infiltrations, has been exchanging fire with Hamas and his bullet terrorists throughout the day. The military saying a number of murders have been launched from Lebanon at Israeli military sites. Speaking from Beirut, the Iranian foreign minister, says that country's proxies in the region, including his Bala, are ready to respond to any action by Israel. And it is now confirmed that between 150 and 200 of the hostages, most of them Israelis, but many other nationalities as well, are being held in the Gaza Strip. Family of the hostages say they have handed over medical information and medicine to the Red Cross in hopes it gets to their loved ones. A Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu right at the salaries holding a security assessment with top defense officials in the IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv. But earlier, he made his first visit to the Gaza border area today, since the in Hamas invasion and visited Kibbutz Berry and Kibbutz Kfar Azad, the scene of horrific massacres. Here's what the prize, a bit of what the Prime Minister had to say. All of us, all of us now belong to the Gaza border community. From now on, it will be called the region of revival. That's what we'll call it. Well, let's stay in the south and go to our correspondent, Mary Macaulay, who was in the border town of Sterot, the Prime Minister, making his first visit there today, Mary, but it continues to be very active with rocket attacks or attempts by rocket attacks by Hamas and, of course, Israel, using it as a launching pad for their massive airstrikes in the Gaza Strip. That's right, Kolev, it continues to be a very active area here in the southern border communities. We saw a number of injuries from rockets earlier in the day, including one who was evacuated in critical condition. Just moments ago, we again heard Red Alert sirens ringing out in two different communities along the Gaza border, also hearing, of course, those interceptions happening overhead as the iron dome fired missiles to intercept those rockets. In the background of all these rocket alert sirens, we continue to hear Israel pound the Gaza Strip specifically in the northern area, which it ordered residents to leave beginning yesterday. So we do continue to hear Israeli warplanes overhead. They're also drones overhead. Very heavy military activity in addition to all the forces who have been deployed here. Also, the heavy machinery that has been deployed here, as Israel does say, it is preparing to go to the next stage of its operation. All in the meanwhile, they are continuing to continue to hit these areas in the Gaza Strip very harshly. We hear the explosions. We can see the flashes of lights because here in Sirot, we're just a couple miles away from the Gaza border. So certainly the military activity is ongoing. And they're saying that this is only the beginning of Israel's operation and that they are getting ready to take it to the next stage. And troops and battalions who have been moved from throughout the country and our station throughout the country, Israeli government now is saying they are ready and they are preparing. All right, Mary McAuliffe in Sirot, take care and stay near her shelter, Mary. Thank you for that. Our Middle East correspondent, Ariel Osron is here. Today, major story in Gaza, of course, the movement, at least attempted movement by civilians in the northern part of the Gaza Strip, especially Gaza City, heading to south. Is you're saying it won't attack them along a certain humanitarian corridor, but Hamas apparently trying to, is Mirchania making a statement this afternoon, saying telling Gaza civilians to stay in place, don't move from your homes, even though that kind of makes them sitting ducks, Ariel? Well, unfortunately for the residents of Gaza, being sitting ducks is exactly what Hamas wants. I mean, not only did Hamas- Realistically, Sirot, we have the IDF spokesperson, we were at Ndanya Kha'gari, giving a briefing. We're all fighting, side by side, by air, by land, by sea. We attacked thousands of targets across the city, but we eliminated many terrorists who took part in this attack. Another terrorist from Hamas- All other partners in this vicious attack will be eliminated. This is a top priority. We are evacuating as citizens from the fighting area. We are determined as a Hamas to keep the civilians there in the Strip as a human shield. They want civilians there. They want civilians to be hurt, to show the law that there are victims on their side too. We continue to urge the residents of the city of Gaza to go south, go south past the river of Gaza. Hamas wants you as a human shield. This is for your own safety. We are going to attack curiously, extensively in the city of Gaza. It is for your own sake, please. We have flooded the area with thousands of fighters that are clearing the area from terror. This is still a fighting zone, still a war zone, and it's still a close, military area. Today, we eliminated a squad of terrorists, Salam Nahalos, who eliminated an escalation attempt in the area of the king by terrorists. The heroic of fighters on the ground are getting clear. One of them from the community, they both eliminated terrorists. They both, with these hostages and all those stories of all the different units on the ground, will keep, will continue to be revealed day by day. The command itself is on high alert and high attentiveness. We eliminated two terrorist squad from the north that are trying to conquer Israel. We attacked the Lebanese territory after, in the aftermath of shooting from the Lebanese territory, the IDF, great might with power and the Northern War mortar, whoever will reach the border from the Lebanese side will die. Any event there is on the source of the state of Lebanon. We are warning you. We are making sure, continuously, that all the systems of the IDF are in full opportune mode and ready to attack. I continue and reiterate to the public, the Israeli public, you must adhere to our front command. Orders are air defense systems are working well, but this is not, but it cannot clear at all. It's not covered at all. The fact that you're going to the shelter every single time there is an alert, day by day, and minimizes the damage allows us to continue to fight in full swing. The home front command instructions are updating every 24 hours. The ministerial ministry will gradually announce on a gradual return to school. I urge you all to get updated by the home front command site ahead of us some challenging week, but we'll need a lot of resilience on behalf of everyone. The IDF will act with all its might by air, by land, by sea, and will complete, conclude all the war plans that the IDF commanders and warriors have trained, are training, and will execute. We are ready, we are expect, very much wide, logistical, and give a clear complaint. We are working to facilitate all the shields and the honors that are needed. First and foremost, the team or the fighters fighting on the ground. Please, we want you to keep on obeying us on any gaps or lack of equipment on the ground because we are walking tirelessly to make sure there are no gaps. So far, a message to 200 families of soldiers who fell and carried out have been notified. We are embracing them in their reciprocal hour. We are working and thinking day and night on the families of the abductees. Those who are being held hostage, no one can grasp the death of the agony that you are going through. The State of Israel is doing everything it can to bring those people home. We brought the best people in this country to work on it, working tirelessly around the clock on that, and applying all the best facilities, the best tools we have to collect every piece of information to complete this puzzle, to have a clear picture and reflect it to the families. So far, we have updated 126 families of people being held hostage in the Gaza Strip. Some of our enemies are wrong to think that this is the right time for them to attack. The idea is ready and set to act every front and north in the south and the center, everywhere in Italy. And we are and our strategic alliance, the U.S., is standing by our side. We share a destiny. The partnership is over. We share destiny, and it will be reflected in action. We are missing the greatness of the Israeli spirit, all factors of society, and it is strengthening our commanders and our fighters. Keep on going, this Israeli spirit. Well, that was Rear Admiral Daniel Hagar, the IDF spokesperson. Of course, I think the most important point that he said is right at the very beginning, as that the IDF is observing and has proof on camera, which we'll bring to you perhaps later this evening, that Hamas terrorists are trying to keep civilians from northern Gaza, those living in Gaza City in areas of the north of the Gaza Strip, from moving to the southern part, as has been recommended by the IDF, and to get them out of the firing zone there. The Hamas continue to try to use them as human shields. Now, of course, in the past week, we've been bringing heartbreaking stories about many people missing or now confirmed killed at that Nova Music Festival that was held on Friday night Saturday that was brutally attacked by the Hamas terrorists, at least 260 people killed there, dozens more kidnapped. But there are survivors, and one of them joins us now. He is 19-year-old Noam Kohn from the town of Wushown Lezion, and he was the videographer, the film official, I guess, filmmaker of the recorder of the Nova Music Festival. But first, I have to say, our viewers can't see, by the way, we are going to show footage that Noam showed while he talks. Some of this is extremely graphic, so there is a warning here, but we're not even showing you the worst part. But noam, you came in here on crutches, our viewers can't see you, your both legs are bandaged, you injured. Tell us what happened to you at the festival. Yes, unfortunately, I got hit with on my both legs, and what's happened pretty much is that I went as a videographer with two of my friends, and we gathered in like 3 a.m., 4 a.m., and after two hours, we planned it to shoot in the sunset, in the sunrise, Saturday morning. And after the two hours that we were there, in 6 a.m., 6.30, they started shooting rockets over our heads, but I didn't was so stressed, because I knew that you have the David Doom. The Iron Dome system? Yeah. So you thought at that point it was just rockets? Yeah, it's normal. We used to, because in Israel every two months, we have rockets. This is a sad comment itself, but go on. Yeah, it's not good, but this is the reality that we live in. So what happened is that they stopped the music in the festival, and they told everyone to go home. So me and my friend were getting the car, started driving. There is only one road that leads towards home, towards the party. After 5, 10 minutes, I don't remember. We started to hear shootings. Okay. And we continued driving. And then my friend pointed on some people, some terrorists on the bushes and said they're shooting at us. And as he says that my car gets hit several times with bullets on an automatic weapon. And one of my friends got hit in the leg and started bleeding in the car. So I turned 180 and started to put the pedal to the metal and go. Before you go on, I want to know, at that moment, what were you thinking? Were you thinking somehow these terrorists got through the fence or did you even have time to think about that? I didn't have time to think about it. I just knew that I'm getting shot at, and I just act by instincts. Okay. So I started drove towards the party because I knew that we have force there, we have the police there. So I thought maybe they, because they with weapons, they can help us and maybe they can call for backup from the army. And after two minutes of driving and still getting hit and the windows shutters, it's like in a horror movie. And we got we got saved. And then we got inside a shelter. We saw police officer outside a shelter and a lot of people getting in the shot in the shelter because it's the south and it's very dangerous there. And they a lot of rockets launched there. Unfortunately, they have near bus stations, they have shelters, like it's three meters by two meter room that you have one entry and their entry is the exit. And it's without door and you just can just can get in from rockets. Right. But I didn't know that it was a death trap. Because that's what I'm asking you, like you're out of the decision to make. Do I keep driving? What do I go in the shelter? But you didn't realize the scope of the attack, I guess. Yeah, I didn't realize that there is thousands of terrorists in this area. I thought that maybe few of them got in and the army will take take care of it soon. Like I thought that this is our last chance because I hear shots from the other way too. So I didn't. So I stopped in the shelter. And after five minutes inside the shelter, we started to hit. We got hit by an RPG on the shelter, right? Everything is like everything outside explodes. Everyone that was there, not everyone got inside the shelter because you didn't have a lot of room and people climbing on each other. It was terrifying. And my luck is that I got in one of the first. So I was like away from the entry. All the people that were on the entry got killed because the terrorists after they shot the RPG, they shooted on us with the weapons on the people that were outside and then the people that were inside of the entry. And I have to ask you, I see we're showing footage of you from inside the shelter. Were you filming while you were you had the wherewithal to film while you were inside the shelter? Yeah, being fired because I told you before that I'm a videographer. So it's in my blood. It's the instincts. I think something weird scenario, like I just pull out my phone and start filming. Okay. So this is what I did. And of course, in the middle of the hard fire, I didn't think I just was protecting myself. But before it before it happened that terrorists throw grenade inside and start shooting people inside. So I didn't feel but before this, I think and after this, I think. But were you injured during that attack when they threw when they threw that grenade in? Is that when you got injured? Yeah, my luck. I told you before that it was that I've been in the back and the shelter. So they throw. I'll try to explain you think that people are trying to get away and get shot. So you don't have you can't do nothing. So they just they saw that we don't get out. So they throw grenades. They throw like three grenades inside one after another. And then and then they got inside to make sure everyone is dead. So they got inside they shoot everyone and took with them to girls. I knew this because I saw and I heard girls that screaming that they kidnapped us and it was very I don't know how I got alive from this. What were you thinking? I know this is painful, no one. And I'm sorry. And I'm sorry. No, I'm here to tell. I'm here to what were you thinking at that moment? I was thinking, OK, that's it. That's it. Like, it's gonna end like this. I just hope it's gonna be fast and I'm not gonna get pain a lot. And I hope that they won't gonna kidnap me. So how long were you in the shelter until you realize the incident or at least that you were relatively safe? After 40, 15 minutes, 50 minutes, yeah, 40, 50 minutes inside the shelter. Actually, I saved because I crawled under the body. There was a lot of dead bodies, like it's not near me. It's on me. You crawled under the dead bodies. I needed to to because when they got inside it shoot everyone. So all the the bodies was taking all the shots. So this is how I got saved. There was 30 people inside there. I think that only seven got alive from this. This is just incredible. And I say, again, we looked at the footage where you're bleeding, you have blood on your face. You're looking how are you even? It's amazing. And you're filming is even after this happened to you. You're recording this on. Yes, you know, a lot of a lot of times, a lot of things happen here in Israel, whether whether is terror attacks or other things. And people just don't believe. They just think we made it up. So I had to film everything. Of course, while I'm getting shot at, I'm didn't filmed. But after and before I document this to do what I'm doing now to let the world know what we've been through there. Right. Now you would take you were taking. Yeah, did you want to say? How do you? How does it make you feel when you see this growing movement in the world that is just denying all the different atrocities that happened, whether it was in the party in the Nova or in the different communities in the border? You were there. You witnessed it. So how does it make you feel when you hear that people are saying it didn't happen? It's not as you guys are saying, I wish those people who say those kind of things were in this festival and see that they don't care if it's kid, older woman, a little girl. There was a lot of people, parents that brought their kids to this festival because it's like a world wild. There was a lot of non, a lot of Arabs, a lot of Muslims, a lot of Americans, a lot of Germans, Brazilians all over the world. They didn't care. They just want blood. They don't care about and I it's not gonna happen. But if they're gonna end to it here and they're gonna succeed, which is not gonna happen, they're a terrorist organization against a country with army and you know, it's not gonna happen. But I think that they, I don't know. And I'm not against Palestinians. I don't really like them because they hate me. But I'm against someone that want to kill me with no reason. You know what I'm saying? And if you were, I have Arabic friends, by the way, Muslims. Right. No, I have to ask you, obviously, you were treated in hospital, I guess, afterwards. Your legs from the damage from the shooting and I could see your legs are heavily bandaged. But how are you now? I mean, are you getting the other treatment that you need? You've gone to an event that would have broken many people of any age. How are you doing? Well, it's not the best things to go through. But I'm strong and I'm gonna pass through this and I'm looking forward. And this is not what's gonna break me. I got a life from it and I'm thanking God, of course. And yeah, I just I'm looking in the future. I'm not letting it depress me. I'm not letting it, of course, that in the first in the last weeks, I didn't slept well. And it was really hard. But what they want is to make us feel this depression and feel weak and get into traumatizing. And I won't let them do it. Right. I just want to say no, we've been showing some of the footage as you saw of yourself. But we can't we didn't show the most graphic footage of some of the dead bodies because we haven't had time or we have to edit it or we have restrictions. But I do want to say something. You can just go with your further imagine and you will. I would just want to say that you performed a not just survived, but you're a hero because you performed a heroic act of recording that and that footage is going to be important and is going to last and is going to tell the world what happened there and it will get out there. I hope. Yeah. All right. Well, what could I say? No, it's an incredible account. And this is one story. You need to remember that people have been through whole family got erased from this world all generations just because of pure evil. So my story, it's nothing. And I can assure you that I know that there is people that wasn't in this scenario. And now is there taking it more hard than what I take it? All right. No, we wish you we join your grieving for your friends that you lost. We wish to say for recovery of the flows friends that may still be alive even in Gaza. And we wish the best for you and for coming in here and having the courage to tell us the story. No, I'm calling. Thank you so much for joining us for having me. Thanks. I don't really know what to say after that, except we'll be back at the top of the hour with more news on I 24 news. Stay with us over 1300 casualties and over 3000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing. We bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what Hamas did. Follow us as Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north. Join I 24 news for the real story of what's going on concept in Israel custom made men's fashion to your measurements made for me designer of all your events schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il made for me official dresser of I 24 news this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within 100 soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped. entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong. Everyone is showing up. This is the unity. Welcome to this special breaking news edition on I 24 news. I'm Calibri David where he in day eight of Israel's war against Hamas. It's been a little more than a week since thousands of Israelis were murdered, injured or kidnapped in a terrorist onslaught in the south of the country. Israeli forces continue to pound Hamas targets in Gaza with air strikes and artillery in preparation for a likely ground offensive. Now the U.S. and so far backed Israel's offensive all the way although U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken who was in Saudi Arabia earlier today and is now in the United Arab Emirates meeting with top officials there is calling for the protection of all civilians on both sides. Saudis have reportedly frozen any further talks with the U.S. regarding normalization with Israel. Two senior Hamas commanders are confirmed to have been killed by the IDF. One the commander who plotted last week's massacre along with the head of the Hamas groups aerial forces. Now the IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move to the southern area of the Gaza Strip despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them. An Egyptian official says Egypt U.S. and the United Egypt Israel in the U.S. have agreed to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rafah border crossing into Egypt. It's not clear though that that is happening. In the West Bank security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians including dozens of Hamas borders during sporadic clashes throughout the day. Now many Israelis have been taking their Shirel shelters throughout the day. That's after a barrage of rockets hit central and southern Israel. No casualties reported and in the north on the border of Lebanon the IDF has thwarted attempted terrorist infiltrations has been exchanging fire with Hamas and his bala terrorists throughout the day. The military saying a number of mortars have been launched from Lebanon at Israeli military sites. Speaking from Beirut the Iranian foreign minister says that country's proxies in the region including his bala are ready to respond to any action by Israel and it is now confirmed that between 150 and 200 of hostages most of them Israelis but many other nationalities as well are being held in the Gaza Strip family and the hostages say they have handed over medical information and medicine to the red course in hopes it gets to the loved ones. Our Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu right at this hour is holding a security assessment with top defense officials in the IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv but earlier he made his first visit to the Gaza border area today since the in Hamas invasion and visited Kibbutz Berry and Kibbutz Kfar Azar the scene of horrific massacres here's what the prize a bit of what the prime minister had to say all of us all of us now belong to the Gaza border community from now on it will be called the region of revival that's what we'll call it well let's stay in the south and go to our correspondent Mary McCauliffe who was in the border town of Sterot the prime minister making his first visit there today Mary but it continues to be a very active area rocket attacks or attempts by rocket attacks by Hamas and of course Israel using it as a launching pad for their massive airstrikes in the Gaza Strip that's very clever it continues to be a very active area here in the southern border communities we saw a number of injuries from rockets earlier in the day including one who was evacuated in critical condition just moments ago we again heard red alert sirens ringing out in two different communities along the Gaza border also hearing of course those interceptions happening overhead as the iron dome fired missiles to intercept those rockets in the background of all these rocket alert sirens we continue to hear Israel pound the Gaza Strip specifically in the northern area which it ordered residents to leave beginning yesterday so we do continue to hear Israeli war planes overhead they're also drones overhead very heavy military activity in addition to all the forces who have been deployed here also the heavy machinery that has been deployed here as Israel does say it is preparing to go to the next stage of its operation all in the meanwhile they are continuing to continue to hit these areas in the Gaza Strip very harshly we hear the explosions we can see the flashes of lights because here in Sirot we're just a couple miles away from the Gaza border so certainly the military activity is ongoing and they're saying that this is only the beginning of Israel's operation and that they are getting ready to take it to the next stage and troops and battalions who have been moved from throughout the country and our station throughout the country the Israeli government now is saying they are ready and they are preparing all right Mary McCauliffe in Sirot take care and stay near a shelter Mary thank you for that our Middle East correspondent Ariel Ostron is here today major story in Gaza of course the movement or at least attempted movement by civilians in the northern part of the Gaza Strip especially Gaza City heading to south as you're saying it won't attack them along a certain humanitarian corridor but Hamas apparently trying to making a statement this afternoon saying telling Gaza civilians to stay in place don't move from your homes even though that kind of makes them sitting ducks Ariel well unfortunately for the residents of Gaza being sitting ducks is exactly what Hamas wants I mean not only did we have a the IDF spokesperson we were at Daniel Higari giving a briefing we're all fighting side by side by air by land by sea we attacked thousands of martyred crossings 50 eliminated many terrorists who took part in this attack another terrorist from Hamas organization all other partners in this vicious attack will be limited this is a top priority we are evacuating as Gaza citizens from the fighting area we are saying determined of Hamas to keep the civilians there in the strip as a human shield they want civilians there they want civilians to be hurt to show the world that there are victims on their side too we continue to urge the residents of the city of Gaza go south go south past the river of Gaza Hamas wants you as a human shield this is for your own safety we are going to attack seriously thankfully in the city of Gaza it is for your own sake please we have flooded the area with thousands of fighters that are clearing the area from terror this is still a fighting zone still a war zone and it's still a close military area today we eliminated a lot of terrorists along the we eliminated a professional camp in the area of the king by a terrorist the heroic the heroic act of fighters on the ground are getting clear one of them the oh unit they both eliminated terrorists they both made these hostages a number of stories of all the different units on the ground will keep we'll continue your real day by day The command itself is on high alert and high attentiveness. We eliminated two terrorist squad from the north that's charging over Israel. We attacked Lebanese territory after in the aftermath of shooting from the Lebanese territory. The IDF has a great might with power and a noted border. Whoever will reach the border from the Lebanese side will die. Any event there is on the source of the stability of the state of Lebanon. We are warning you. We are making sure, continuously, that all the citizens of the IDF are in full operative mode and ready to attack. I continue and reiterate to the public, the Israeli public, you must adhere to our front comments. Orders are air defense assistants are watching well, but it cannot clear at all, not cover at all. The fact that you are going through the shelter every single time there is an alert, stays in place and minimizes the damage and allows us to continue to fight in full swing. The home front command instructions are updating every 24 hours. The educational ministry will gradually announce on a gradual return to school. I urge you all to get updated by the home front command site ahead of us some challenging week. We will meet a lot of resilience on behalf of everyone. The IDF will act with all its might by air, by land, by speed and will complete, include all the war plans that the IDF commanders and warriors have trained our training and will execute. We are ready, we are expect, we are working to facilitate all the shields and the honors that are needed. First and foremost, the team or the fighters fighting on the ground. Please, we want you to keep on obeying us on any gaps or lack of equipment on the ground because we are working tirelessly to make sure there are no gaps. So far a message to 200 families of soldiers who fell and carried out have been notified. We are embracing them in their reciprocal hour. We are working and thinking day and night on the families of the abducted. Those who are being held hostage, no one can grasp the death of the agony that you are going through. The State of Israel is doing everything it can to bring those people home. It has brought the best people in this country to work on it, working tirelessly around the clock on that and applying all the best facilities, the best tools we have to collect every different information to complete this puzzle, to have a clear picture and reflect it to the families. So far we have updated 126 families of people being held hostage in the Gaza Strip. Some of our enemies are wrong to think that this is the right time for them to attack. The idea is ready and set to act. The North is the south of the center, everywhere in Italy. And we are a strategic ally, the U.S. is standing by our side. We share a destiny, the partnership is of a shared destiny, and it will be a reflective action. We are witnessing the greatness of the Israeli spirit, all factors of society, and it is strengthening our commanders and our fighters to keep on going with the Israeli spirit. That was Rear Admiral Daniel Hagar, the IDF spokesperson. Of course, I think for most of one point that he said is at right at the very beginning as that the IDF is observing and has proof on camera, which will bring to you perhaps later this evening that Hamas terrorists are trying to keep civilians from northern Gaza, those living in Gaza city in areas of the north of the Gaza Strip, from moving to the southern part as has been recommended by the IDF and to get them out of the firing zone there. The Hamas continue to trying to use them as human shields. Now, of course, in the past week, we've been bringing you heartbreaking stories about many people missing or now confirmed killed at that Nova music festival that was held on Friday night Saturday that was brutally attacked by the Hamas terrorists. At least 260 people killed there, dozens more kidnapped. But there are survivors, and one of them joins us now. He is 19-year-old Noam Kohn from the town of Ruchon Lezion. And he was the videographer, the film official, I guess, filmmaker of the recorder of the Nova music festival. But first I have to say our viewers can't see. By the way, we are going to show footage that Noam showed while he talks. Some of this is extremely graphic, so there is a warning here. But we're not even showing you the worst part. But now you came in here on crutches, our viewers can't see you. Both legs are bandaged. Tell us what happened to you at the festival. Yes, unfortunately I got hit on my both legs. And what's happened pretty much is that I went as a videographer with two of my friends. And we gathered in like 3 a.m., 4 a.m. And after two hours, we planned to shoot in the sunset, in the sunrise. In the sunrise? Saturday morning. And after the two hours that we were there, in 6 a.m., 6.30, they started shooting rockets over our heads. But I didn't was so stressed because I knew that you have the David Doom. The Allium Dome system. Yeah. So we set it up. So you thought at that point it was just rockets? Yeah, it's normal. We used to because in Israel every two months, every few months, we have rockets. This is a sad comment itself, but go on. Yeah, it's not good, but this is the reality that we live in. So what happened is that they stopped the music in the festival and they told everyone to go home. So me and my friend were getting the car, started driving. There is only one road that leads towards home, towards the party. After 5, 10 minutes, I don't remember, we started to hear shootings. Okay. And we continued driving. And then my friend pointed on some people, some tourists on the bushes and said they're shooting at us. And as he says that my car gets hit several of times with bullets on an automatic weapon. Right. And one of my friends got hit in the leg. Right. And started bleeding in the car. So I turned 180 and started to put the pedal to the metal and go. Before you go on. I want to know, at that moment, what were you thinking? Were you thinking somehow these terrorists got through the fence or did you even have time to think about that? I didn't have time to think about it. I just knew that I'm getting shot at and I just act by instincts. Okay. So I started driving towards the party because I knew that we have force there. And the police there. So I thought maybe they, because they with weapons, they can help us and maybe they can call for backup from the army. And after two minutes of driving and still getting hit in the window shutters, it's like in a horror movie. We got saved. And then we got inside a shelter. We saw police officers outside a shelter and a lot of people getting in the shelter because it's the south and it's very dangerous there. And a lot of rockets launched there, unfortunately. They have near bus stations. They have shelters. Right. It's three meters by two meter room that you have one entry and their entry is the exit. And it's without door and you just can get in from rockets. Right. But I didn't know that it was a death trap. That's what I'm asking you. Like you had a decision to make. Do I keep driving or do I go in the shelter? But you didn't realize the scope of the attack, I guess. Yeah. I didn't realize that there is thousands of terrorists in this area. I thought that maybe few of them got in and the army will take care of it soon. Like I thought that this is our last chance because I hear shots from the other way too. So I didn't. So I stopped in the shelter. And after five minutes inside the shelter, we started to hit. We got hit by an RPG on the shelter. Right. Everything is like everything outside explode everyone that was there. Not everyone got inside the shelter because you didn't have a lot of room and people climbing on each other. It was terrifying. And my luck is that I got in one of the first. So I was like away from the entry. All the people that were on the entry got killed because the terrorists, after they shot the RPG, they shooted on us with the weapons on the people that were outside. And then the people that were inside of the entry. I have to ask you. I see we're showing footage of you from inside the shelter. Were you filming? You had the wherewithal to film while you were inside the shelter? Yeah. Being fired? Because I told you before that I'm a videographer so it's in my blood. It's the instincts. I feel something weird. I just pull out my phone and start filming. Okay. So this is what I did. Of course, in the middle of the hard fire I didn't film. I just was protecting myself. But before it happened that terrorists throw grenades inside and start shooting people inside. So I didn't film. But before this I filmed and after this I filmed. But were you injured during that attack when they threw that grenade in? Is that when you got injured? Yeah. My luck. I told you before that it was that I've been in the back in the shelter. So they throw, I'll try to explain you the thing that people are trying to get away and get shot. You can't do nothing. So they saw that we don't get out. So they throw grenades. They throw like three grenades inside, one after another. And then they got inside to make sure everyone is dead. So they got inside, they shoot everyone and took with them two girls. I knew this because I saw and I heard girls screaming that they kidnapped us. And it was very, I don't know how I got alive from this. What were you thinking? I know this is painful, no one. And I'm sorry. No, I'm here to tell. I'm here to let the whole world know. What were you thinking at that moment? I was thinking, OK, that's it. That's it. It's going to end like this. I just hope it's going to be fast and I'm not going to get pain a lot. And I hope that they won't going to kidnap me. So how long were you in the shelter until you realize the incident or at least that you were relatively safe? After 40, 50 minutes. 50 minutes. No, 15, 50. 50 minutes. Yeah. 40, 50 minutes inside the shelter. Actually, I saved because I crawled under the body. There was a lot of dead bodies. Like, it's not near me, it's on me. You crawled under the dead bodies. I needed to, because when they got inside, it shoot everyone. So all the bodies was taking all the shots. So this is how I got saved. There was 30 people inside there. I think that only seven got alive from this. No, this is just incredible. And I see, again, we looked at the footage where you're bleeding. You have blood on your face. You're looking. How are you even, it's amazing. And your filming is, even after this happened to you, you're recording this on your phone. Yes, you know, a lot of times, a lot of things happen here in Israel, whether it's terror attacks or other things. And people just don't believe. They just think, we made it up. So I had to film everything. Of course, while getting shot at, I didn't film. But after and before, I document this to do what I'm doing now, to let the world know what we've been through there. Right. Now, you were taking, did you want to say something? Yeah, no. How does it make you feel when you see this growing movement in the world that is just denying all the different atrocities that happened, whether it was in the party in the Nova or in the different communities in the border? You were there, you witnessed it. So how does it make you feel when you hear that people are saying it didn't happen? It's not as you guys are saying. I wish those people who say those kind of things were in this festival and see that they don't care if it's kid, elder, woman, little girl. There was a lot of people, parents that brought their kids to this festival because it's like a world wild. There was a lot of Arabs, a lot of Muslims, a lot of Africans, a lot of Germans, Brazilians, all over the world. They didn't care. They just want blood. They don't care about it. And it's not going to happen. But if they're going to end to it here and they're going to succeed, which is not going to happen, they're a terrorist organization against a country with army and it's not going to happen. I think that they, I don't know. And I'm not against Palestinians. I don't really like them because they hate me. But I'm against someone that want to kill me with no reason. You know what I'm saying? And if you were, I have Arabic friends, by the way, Muslims. Right. No, I have to ask, you obviously were treated in hospital, I guess, afterwards. Your legs from the damage from the shooting and I could see your legs are heavily bandaged. Yeah. But how are you now? I mean, are you getting the other treatment that you need? You've gone through an event that would have broken many people of any age. How are you doing? Well, it's not the best things to go through. But I'm strong and I'm going to pass through this and I'm looking forward. And this is not what's going to break me. I got a life from it and I'm thanking God, of course. And yeah, I just, I'm looking in the future. I'm not letting it depress me. I'm not letting it, of course, that in the first, in the last two weeks, I didn't slept well and it was really hard. But what they want is to make us feel this depression and feel weak and get into traumatizing. And I won't let them do it. Right. I just want to say no. We've been showing some of the footage as you saw of yourself. But we can't, we didn't show the most graphic footage of some of the dead bodies because we haven't had time or we have to edit it or we have restrictions. But I do want to say something. You can just go with your further imagine and you will. I would just want to say that you performed a, you not just survived, but you're a hero because you performed a heroic act of recording that and that footage is going to be important and is going to last and is going to tell the world what happened there. And it will get out there. I hope, yeah. All right. Well, what can I say? No, it's an incredible account. And this is one story. One story. You need to remember that people have been through whole family got erased from this world all generations just because of pure evil, you know? So my story, it's nothing. And I can assure you that I know that there is people that wasn't in this scenario. And now they're taking it more hard than what I take it. All right. No, we wish you, we join your grieving for your friends that you lost. We wish to say for recovery of the close friends that may still be alive even in Gaza. And we wish the best for you and for coming in here and having the courage to tell us the story. No, I'm calling. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. Thanks. I don't really know what to say after that except we'll be back at the top of the hour with more news on I-24 News. Stay with us. It's no surprise the transition to parent hoard can be transformative for anyone with a new baby. But what kind of mark is it leaving on the brains of new parents? There are dramatic physiological, hormonal and neuronal changes in the body and the brain that accompanies parenthood. Much like the changes that happen in the brain when picking up any new skill, like learning a new language or mastering a new musical instrument, the brain also changes when becoming a parent. 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Most of us will become parents one day and as any new parent knows, having a baby provides opportunities for enrichment, learning and stress experiences known to transform the adult brain. 1,300 casualties and over 3,000 injuries and the toll keeps climbing. We bring you the testimonies from the front line from those who managed to survive in the most graphic brutal images so the whole world can see what Hamas did. Follow us as Israel battles a terror threat emanating from the south and the north. Join I-24 News for the real story of what's going on. The U.S. has so far backed Israel's offensive although U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, we're hearing, yes, I'm sorry, rocket sirens are sounding in Tel Aviv now. We will continue to broadcast through this alert. U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken who was in Saudi Arabia early today and now in the United Arab Emirates is meeting with top officials there and is calling for the protection for all civilians. The Saudis have reportedly frozen any further talks with the U.S. regarding normalization with Israel while the conflict rages. Two senior Hamas commanders are now confirmed to have been killed by the IDF. One, the commander who plotted last week's massacre along with the head of the massacre and also the head of Hamas' aerial forces. Now the IDF says hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians are heeding warnings to move to the southern area of the Gaza despite the efforts of Hamas to stop them, leaving a senior Egyptian official and a senior Egyptian official says Egypt, Israel and the U.S. have agreed to allow foreigners residing in Gaza to pass through the Rakhach border crossing into Egypt. The West Bank security forces have arrested 280 Palestinians including dozens of Hamas supporters. Many Israelis have been taking to their shelters throughout the day after a barrage of rockets hit central and southern Israel and I have to tell you we just heard loud booms here in the studio, overhead presumably now either from rocket interceptions or landings. No casualties have been reported so far today. In the north on the border with Lebanon, the IDF has started attempted terrorist infiltrations and has been exchanging fire with Hamas and his bullet terrorists throughout the day. You're looking at live pictures from Tel Aviv. As again, a rocket that we're getting reports of, a rocket firing, we're seeing flashes there in the Tel Aviv area. Okay, let's go, let's go, first we're going to jump to our, we're seeing live pictures there in Tel Aviv of people taking cover. I repeat, we have now rockets, incoming rockets reports in central Israel in the Tel Aviv metropolitan area, including here in the studio, we just heard booms either from a rocket's landing or from their interceptions from the Iron Dome defensive system. We'll bring you updates from the Tel Aviv area and when we get them. In the meantime though, let's go to our Piestachobach in the north of Israel. Pio, here we're under fire in Tel Aviv. You've had that situation throughout the day. Tell us about what's been going on in the north. Well, first of all, please stay safe there in Tel Aviv. What you are here, here in the north, there hasn't been alert so far this day, although there has been a major security incident in the late afternoon where 30 mortar shells were fired toward an IDF post in the Haldov area in the eastern part of the Israeli-Lebanese border. The IDF immediately struck with air artillery and also tanks. Hezbollah claimed responsibility for that launch of the mortar missiles. Now the Haldov area is a disputed area. It has been the scene of fighting before. Six days ago Hezbollah and the IDF exchanged a fire there and it is also the area where earlier this summer Hezbollah had placed two tents, almost triggering an escalation back then. Now what the IDF is saying in a statement is that they have apprehended an infiltration attempt by a squad from southern Lebanon in a suspected attempt to launch an anti-tank missile towards that IDF post. Now Hezbollah is saying that they have been trying to strike IDF monitoring and surveillance posts. Again Israel is striking back there. This comes amid the Israeli defense minister, Joav Galad, has been visiting the base of the northern command in the city of Safed Swat in Hebrew. There he was briefed on the continuing operations here of the Israeli army in the north and he emphasized there the efforts that are being made by the Israeli security forces to really safeguard the north here as the fear of infiltration attempts further infiltration attempts is quite real here. Only in the early morning hours today there was an infiltration attempt in another Israeli city in Mar Galiot which is also in the eastern part of the border with Lebanon. A squad of three reportedly Palestinians was apprehended there apparently operating under the command of Hezbollah. So as of now the scene is still very very tense here in the north. In fact we're standing here in the city of Shlomi city of a few thousand residents that has been almost deserted. Most of its residents have left already. Actually when we came here we were surprised to find the city open as it had been closed off by the Israeli army for many days throughout the week here. So as of now the situation is calm but it is as it has been throughout the entire week a tense calm as skirmishes between Hezbollah and the Israeli army have increased also infiltration attempts of high ground and air have increased throughout this week as well Kalev. Alright Piestak Obach in northern Israel in Shlomi thank you for that. We have in the studio with us Benjroy Yemini a senior journalist for Yiddier Achonot daily. Stay safe. And thank you Piestak. Reserves IDF Major General Eitan Dangot. I have to tell you if you're hearing some ringing noise Benjroy has left his alert on as he should as any good Israeli should be listening to the warnings of the IDF. We are not going into the shelter now because we continue to broadcast you live even though we are hearing booms above our head but if you're in the Tel Aviv area and you're watching this on TV you shouldn't be. You should be in your shelter waiting for the Auclia from the home front command. There has been now just a minute. I just hope that my wife do not hear you because I'm going to be in a big problem. I understand the below. I just want to say there has been now there was an alert a minute ago in the Ashkelon area it looks like the alert in the Tel Aviv area has gone. If we have any updates of what happened here in Tel Aviv we will bring you that. Rishon Letzion also the quite close actually the city which is just sort of to the south southeast of here. Well gentlemen we'll try to concentrate if you could pull that off Benjroy because we're talking silence that's true and we should be because we should be listening to the alerts we are under fire right now gentlemen. Benjroy I want to go to you because as I mentioned before Anthony Blinken is now doing a diplomatic rounds in the region. He was in Saudi Arabia he's now in the UAE heading to Egypt talking about a humanitarian corridor protecting civilians President Joe Biden today tweeting against support for Israel but saying that there should be humanitarian efforts the rule of law war has to be followed you wrote an article now in the Hebrew press which is available in English on the Weynet website which says that Israel is fighting now for the free world. I want you to talk about that because I wonder if there is in a sense that the narrative may be starting to shift that there was that feeling in the first couple of days of the war that the narrative is falling back into a familiar pattern where it's just really a localized conflict between Israel and Hamas. It's always like that. At the beginning people identify with Israel and a bit later on when Israel is beginning to retaliate then not anymore you see the people from Gaza Strip are suffering because Israel is a kind of regional superpower let's put it on the table we are fighting evil the axis of evil and yes everything should be done according to the international law no doubt about it but we have to understand the reality and the reality is that Hamas is part of Daesh the reality is what so many channels do not broadcast is actually that the leaders of the Hamas repeatedly say we are actually not speaking about Israel we are speaking about conquering Europe, conquering America, conquering the whole world they say it in their own voice and they are saying we have to exterminate all the Jews in their own TV Al-Aqsa channel now why don't you broadcast it in order just to understand what we are fighting when you do not know it then you blame Israel command poor people we are fighting an evil I don't like to use this word Islam or Nazism but what can I do when they say when they are coming by the way in the demonstrations that were carried out 2, 3, 4 years ago they came with the swastika with the swastika plug of the Nazis we have to bear it in mind what we are fighting against I mean it has nothing to do with criticism against Israel which is legitimate I do it myself as a journalist I don't like the policies of my own government Israel is a democracy but we are speaking about something else we are speaking about so many people, too many people in the West that actually support the Hamas when the Hamas is saying we have to kill all the Jews I just on that note just mention we saw in London today this afternoon a massive pro they say pro-Palestinian Hamas them a rally in the heart of London Hamas is the enemy of the Palestinians Jihad is the enemy of Palestinians just think about the option that Palestinians say no we don't want terror no we want to live in peace two states for two peoples you know what if right now we have something like 55% of the Israeli public who support this kind of solution we will have something like 80% they support the Hamas no, they keep on with the hatred this is not the way we have to also remember what is the essence of the Hamas first, Hamas is part of the Muslim brothers Muslim brothers are the enemy in most of the Arab countries not in Qatar maybe but in most of the Muslim countries they are the enemy they are outlawed even that's one, second the founder of the Muslim brothers or the Muslim brotherhood Hassan Al-Bana he spoke about his own movement as industry of death and the Hamas people again we have to just to listen if you ignore it you don't know the Hamas people say again and again we are the industry of death and they say we want death and you just as you want life this is the essence so just we have to remember and I am speaking to all those progressives I mean do you know what you are talking about you are talking about you are supporting people who are actually preaching again and again in favor of extermination of Jews some of them even speaking about extermination of Christians if to quote to the last one of them I am quoting what they broadcast in the Hamas channel listen to them listen to them they say it not I say it and then they come to us when I am interviewed when they are coming to us they are speaking about what well what you do is disproportionate command what are you talking about Israel is doing more than any other country to prevent any harm to innocent civilians I just want to note speaking of Hampton of the civilians there is a report of a rocket landing in the town of Petah Tikfa which is just a little northeast of Tel Aviv we will bring you more information as we have it let's go down to our Mary McAuliffe who is down in Stilrout Mary we just had a red alert here in the area apparently some landings of course Stilrout is born the brunt of these attacks over the past weeks what's been the situation down there absolutely the rocket sirens also fired in Tel Aviv also here in this area we saw a number of rockets streaming overhead so as we saw them we assumed there were rockets heading towards Tel Aviv these were high in the sky and moving fast in that direction we do know that in the Ashkelon and Ashdod area there were a number of rockets also fired there and we could hear some smaller explosions at the same time we of course continue to also hear the sounds of the airstrikes that are being done inside the Gaza Strip as well as some of those heavy machinery fire that's being done here so heavy machine guns and howitzers and borders that are defined from this really side of the border into Gaza Strip we continue to hear much of that sounds of war here in the area as we do feel this readiness preparedness being up by the Israeli forces as they get ready to now again officially confirming that they will be launching a ground land air and sea invasion in to Gaza so this is what is being prepared for in the area and you can certainly feel the tension you can certainly feel the level of activity here a number of different forces both from the Israeli army as well as border police in this area in Strip which again as you mentioned was one of the hardest hit areas in one of the first places that these Hamas terrorists managed to break in so here we are absolutely feeling the heightened tension so we should mention those still wrote as you see the streets empty behind you it to most has been largely emptied out the most of the residents evacuated to other areas of the country that's right Colette so after the mayor initially called on residents to stay in not calling for evacuations and he didn't think it needed to happen two nights ago finally making the decision and calling on the government to implement an evacuation order saying that the residents were simply so traumatized by the weeks events and that they continued also be under this rock and fire they said it was in the best interest of all of the people and throughout for their safety for their mental well-being to evacuate the area to go further north to other parts of the country which have been welcoming them hotels have been open for them the government's also subsidizing guest houses for them to stay and if they have to leave their homes but of course there are still some residents here who are refusing to leave saying this is their home and they will not be moved and they will not be scared away from living in their house by Hamas people who want to attack them so they do estimate some inside streets that told me us today that they believe there's some 30% of the residents are still living here again let's remind our viewers this is a town of some 30,000 people less than a couple miles from the Gaza border and it certainly has felt the brunt being so close to Gaza border in these last few days. Alright Mary McAuliffe and Stero thank you for that I want to go back to a point that Benjra made about Hamas being the really the enemy of the Palestinians as well and also trying to exploit the situation because we do see a situation today with the Ismahani the leader of Hamas saying that telling Gazans not to move not to relocate to the south of the Gaza Strip as recommended by the IDF so they could avoid that heavy bombardment reports that they're even being prevented we even now the Ministry of Foreign Affairs have been sending pictures of roadblocks that have been put on the main road in Gaza to prevent that and Hamas wanting to have those pictures of civilians being killed in Israeli strikes again forcing the civilian population in the north to be those human shields to create that kind of impact that Benjra was talking about in the western world Hamas first of all I think Hamas is under pressure on the continuating of the IDF plans Israel succeed to move outside of a territory almost most of the terrorists and close the fence and meanwhile the air force is striking offensively and the all the time the targets of Hamas and Jihad Islamic what you see now that Israel warned the population to not work in a war in something that happened in the past so we signals to the population a war to move to the south in order to save their life and I think Hamas understand very well the situation now that is going to be from the point of the war but they are still in this behavior I think even they maybe succeed to prevent now pictures of traffic that is going from south to south in Gaza they show to the world how they keep their civilians as not hostages as a part of their plans they are not giving any kind of importance or priority to human life unfortunately the tragedy that we face already showed it to us and it's also to show to the world while we are speaking about continuating of deal and legitimation to Israel to continue with its plans and while we are also dealing with some of a request for international community to do things we have to continue Israel will continue its offensive plan and we are going to the next stage that our plan I'm not going to say how I'm not going to make any asses about when I'm just telling you we are on the way we have to be very tough to achieve our goal we cannot allow ourselves that one day more the Hamas these murderers these butchers will be our neighbor and we have to continue to achieve our goal to destroy Hamas and Jihad Islamic structure and to destroy their capacitive of terror organization and to move it outside of the of the border. Alright gentlemen I'm sure you agree with me I've at least been trying to effectively counter this narrative of Hamas or its supporters the testimony about the many young Israelis who are either killed or still missing after that Hamas cross-border attack now one of them is a young woman named Rony Eshel she's an IDF soldier who was serving in the Nahal Ozami observation post she and six other female soldiers serving that unit have not been heard of since that base was overrun by Tahir Kowalski she is the aunt of Rony Eshel Tahir tell us about Rony first of all Hi thank you so much for letting us have a voice and tell our story Rony my niece Rony is 19 years old girl she loves Harry Styles and she loves Taylor Swift that's what she does like other teens in her age she's really really love kids and babies she always babysits at her hometown Tsuritschak she's actually the first granddaughter in our family and maybe the first baby I ever held 19 years ago I can even recall this moment when my mom picked her up as a baby looking up smiling and then she spit all the milk she just had on her face which is hilarious to remember but nothing is hilarious at this time at this moment we don't know where is Rony and we're here to save her when did you in the family first hear that Rony was missing possibly taken captive okay so the last time we heard from Rony is when she texted her mom at 9.27 exactly from a different from not from her own phone from the base she said I love you mom don't worry about me I'm safe with free hearts and Sharon her mom said please take care of yourself and this is the last time that we ever heard from her I think that night I texted her at 1 a.m. and I brought her Rony baby girl don't worry I'll find you we will find you we will get you home as soon as we can tell you what's your message you know we also have an international audience so what is your message that you want to say now speaking out to Israel but also to the world to the world I want to say we are a community we're an international community we're all against terrorism don't support it they're against the Palestinian people they're against us they're against everyone don't support them support us help us find Rony help us get her back home have you ever had to pray so hard that you felt your eyes are bleeding have you ever felt that the skies will tear if you'll keep praying so hard pray with us and help us get her back and help us be safe in our own country and never forget that there are children as young as 9 months old and as old as 80 something that are being captured, formatted by Hamas handing Gaza right now don't forget that this is the situation and you know it's important to say that the genocide that took place starting Saturday was a holiday here it was the last holiday that's supposed to start the Jewish year nothing like that happened since the Holocaust since 1945 we can't let things like this happen to humans, to people inside their own country it's not an army against an army but it's important also to say that Rony is a child our child our baby girl and we want her back home we haven't slept, we haven't ate we're just looking for her this is so important for us to say and just one thing that is important to keep in mind that we are strong and light will win in the war against darkness but we want to win with our family so many families now will never be together again but I will not sled, I will not imagine even that this will happen to my family, not again Alright, Tahir Kowalski we wish to say for turn of Rony Eshel and we thank you for joining us Thank you so much for letting us tell her story and show her around the world Of course, thank you for joining us Benjro, we've had those stories we're putting them out there, I don't know to what degree they're getting out but how much is that an effective counter to the other attitudes that you talked about in your piece and you talked about here tonight Yeah People do not understand many times and I speak with many foreign journalists I'm interviewed in foreign channels and it's quite sad it's quite sad that they have no idea what they're talking about is a command but they live in the biggest prison in the world I guess you hear this kind of excuse again and again, no it's not it's not the story, the story is that they were offered again and again by the international community by the quartet, by the EU they were offered no more siege but you have to stop the terror, that's all we have only one condition, no more terror they always, by always they rejected all the offers that were given from the international community and of course also from Israel why? Because of the industry of death they prefer death, not life not prosperity, not education not welfare, unfortunately and yes before Israelis became hostages the whole people of the Gaza Strip are actually hostages of what of the radical Islam of Hamas which is a proxy of Iran and just one more thing to remember you know what? it has nothing to do with Israel how come that it has nothing to do with Israel? I'll tell you how, because wherever you have this kind of radical Islam you have destruction and death look what is happening in Yemen, look at what is happening in Syria look at what happened for so long time in Iran I mean it has nothing to do with Israel it has to do with the facts that we are speaking about radical Islam alright Ben Droy Yemini, thank you for joining us this evening on I-24 News Eitan Dango, please stay with us we'll continue our coverage and now sirens air raid sirens going off in the Ashkelon area in parts of southern Israel just a half hour ago here in the studio in Tel Aviv we heard sirens we'll continue to follow the situation as it develops here stay with us on I-24 News 10 minute www.madeforme.co.il madeforme official dresser of I-24 News good evening ladies and gentlemen officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped tell us we don't know what to do we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity I started working in I-24 News in 2013 that same year as part of the documentary series reportage INSIGHT I traveled to Argentina to interview Fiscal Alberto Nisman who had determined to commemorate an understanding between Argentina and Iran signed by the former president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner who was related to the attack on the AMIA in 1994 which left a salary of 85 dead and more than 100 injured the material we work on on January 18, 2015 an impactant event occurred Fiscal Alberto Nisman was found dead in the bathroom of his apartment with a bullet in his head and what everyone was asking was a suicide or a murder the Supreme Argentine Court dictated that it was a murder the only solution is to bring them here behind this so interesting story a terrorist movement international conspiracies search for the truth one day we will know the truth in the last 7 years for the magazine News 24 in Spanish that is broadcast on i24news I made more than 40 reports related to the issue AMIA Nisman Iran a topic that has all the conditions for an international channel of news like i24news continue to investigate until one day the truth is clarified the news is broadcast on Middle East Correspondent Ariel Osteran Ariel we just had over the past half hour rocket siren alerts all throughout South and Central Israel to update us on what information we have about that So first of all we will start from the most important no reports of injuries in any of these sites of hits we are talking about direct hits in the southern town of Ashkelon at least 2 direct hits there according to the municipality as well as a direct hit in Batiam that is just a southern suburb of Tel Aviv just a few miles that way and also in Jerjulia Arab town in the central of Israel there is also identified a direct impact there no reports of injuries in either of those sites All right we are going to be joined now by Reserves IDF Brigadier General He is the former director general of the Israel Ministry of Strategic Affairs former head of the research division for the IDF military intelligence He joins us now from Roche high in Yossi we just had rocket fire all throughout Central or the Tel Aviv area and also southern Israel even as Israel continues to pound with these airstrikes build up of southern forces just give us a sense of we are talking about now a war an invasion the IDF said an invasion on forefronts, ground, sea on air give us a sense of what this would be the timetable for that what would be the if not the exact time what would be the conditions that would be the green light for Israel to start making that move Well I think it's about preparedness it's the moment there is going to be full preparedness for the move forward I think it's going to be taken and implemented it's not a matter of whether we are going to do it it's more a question of whether we are already fully prepared and because the decision in my mind has been taken it's it's a decisive move in this very important move in this war because everybody is trying to convince us not to do it and we know too that even if we are successful in spite of the price that goes along with it and really taking over Gaza still problems are going to emerge after that in Gaza and in other areas there is a group of countries that don't want us to do that because for them they thought they would start a war against us I mean Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas thought that they are going to start a war against us and they are going to be victorious using the weakness of the west using the weakness of Israel and they will be able to change the equation as they say and impose on Israel all kinds of conditions what happens is just the opposite and they are very afraid that this ground incursion is going to make Hamas lose its control of Gaza which is a major asset of Hamas and a major asset of the entire axis led by Iran so they are very worried and they are trying to deter us but everything we see in the north is done for their purpose let me ask you that because I know you focus very much on the Iran file or the Iran front over the past years we saw the Iranian Foreign Minister today in Lebanon meeting with Hezbollah we've seen these incursions rocket attacks from Hezbollah but how far is Hezbollah or it's patron Iran so if Israel if it when Israel moves ahead with this ground operation well it's hard to say for the time being as I said they are trying to deter us through escalating the situation to some level but not the full escalation but many more levels of escalations that they can choose but if we decide to move in then it's a new ballgame for them too on the one hand they are very worried that they are going to lose this asset not that they are they believe also that escalation may make it more difficult for us to concentrate and move forward in Gaza and the other or at the same hand they have to listen to what the Iranians are telling them to do and if the Iranians are going to insist that they are going to escalate they have to take this into account seriously on the other hand there is the taunt of Biden the weapons that he brought for that purpose well let me ask you that government how much of a deterrent is that we don't see it deterring his baller at this stage what would it be is how much of a deterrent and what would really force the US his hand to actually use some of that those destroyers that aircraft carrier that it's from the 6th fleet that it's brought off the Lebanese coast I believe that if Israel would ask them to do that they will but I'm not sure I'm quite convinced that Israel is not going to do that because Israel is prepared to handle his baller by its own force and that's why as I said the Lebanese are worried about this entire escalation option because they are worried that they are going to pay the heavy price so it's I'm not sure what's going to be done I think Nasrallah himself has not yet made the decision and the foreign minister of Iran alluded to that when he said that he expects Nasrallah to behave in a certain way which means that he's himself not sure yet what Nasrallah is going to do that's in this equation of contradicting pressures over his baller the American involvement has certain ways in my mind but we have to remember that it's not only these elements that don't want us to have this grounding that's also Jordan is very worried it might affect its stability Egypt is extremely worried it might send a lot of dozens to the border Qatar is worried Turkey is worried and the Palestinian Authority is worried everybody is worried and would like us to refrain from doing that but we just it's like a Greek tragedy we don't have any other option we tried for 70 years to avoid it at this point Hamas put us in a place where we just cannot avoid doing that All right Reserves our idea of Brigadier General Yossif Kupovas, thank you for joining us on I-24 news There is a report of a I see of a direct hit in the Israeli Arab city of Geljulia this evening we should note that many of the victims that we've seen dozens of Israeli Arabs or Palestinian Israelis however however they identify with have been victims fatalities of Hamas attacks over the past week I want to give you a chance to pick up on some of the comments that we just discussed with General Kupovas First of all about the north I think you can identify stabilization of a policy by Rizbala in Iran that means we will raise the tense but we know to close the circle among the events that are happening and we have an exit point yet it doesn't mean what will be tomorrow and the point that will be decided to interfere the achieve one thing is that they make Israel to be prepared with so many people instead being in the south as well There is just by drawing Israeli troops to the north and Israeli military they've achieved they've achieved a goal without actually having to launch an attack This is the first step they made the plan by it's like a cheat that we were ready to fight it this concept in the north and we got it on the south from Hamas Secondly, the second issue is the fact that by these occasions of terror the small terror you can call it in the north border recognize themselves as they are helping Hamas in what's happening the third is above all is the step by the United States that created a threat and a deterrence towards Iran it's something much more above the conflict here and it means a lot to Iran concerning the future in the Middle East especially the contact United States Iran and the modern Arab countries and Saudi Arabia and with all these things I think they are still hesitating the meeting in Lebanon between the foreign ministry of Iran and his Balaz leader Nasrallah has also two points one, to show that this is something to balance the visit of the Americans leaders the chief Secretary of State Anthony Blinken in Saudi Arabia and the United Arabs and the chief of staff and everybody and I think that the coming days they will be decided also concerning the situation on the south about the achievements that will reach by Israel in Gaza and it will also be maybe the game changer on this type of decisions meanwhile you see that Iran and his Balaz are not changing their concept they will beat in my opinion in the coming one, two days I will say the second half of this week will be the dramatic decision that has to be taken in the north On Iran Supreme leader not surprising today calling on the Muslim world to expand its attacks on Israel no surprise there but I do want to ask you Secretary of State Anthony Blinken in Saudi Arabia today in the United Arab Emirates speaking with leaders there Ariel and maybe most importantly tomorrow going to Egypt