 Hey, what's up guys? So this is obviously we've already reviewed the lunchbox Rick and I if you haven't seen that go watch that We were a long ago, but this is I wanted to we've always talked about introducing Indian films to Americans and which ones we would introduce first and lunchbox was obviously one of our first one So I had a couple of my friends watch this film who have never seen the Indian film before and I've kind of spliced the reviews together And so you can see their thoughts of it So I hope you enjoy Let me know what you think and let me know what's the next film. We should have some Americans review down below How are you guys? I Mean And Daniel this is Zachary Andrew Charles Kieslitz He is my best friend from childhood Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it and this is your first Indian film you've ever seen correct Yeah, I'm not not one that wasn't like, you know a co-production or yeah, like if you don't count slumdog millionaire But that's I would know you we don't oh I started a What was it called that? Hindi Hindi media Cuz your father I Cuz I was looking into after I watched the lunchbox. I was looking how this movie did really good and so dang We haven't even seen a Hindi medium. So what did you think? If you whoever wants to go first just your initial thoughts of your first ever Indian film, I mean I Love all foreign folks I feel like they just allow themselves to take whatever time that they want to Let their characters come through it's it's they revel in smaller moments a lot more than I think Western films do For the most part and like those small moments are what are the reasons? I like going to the films anyway, but I love that it made me miss actually a time in Western films where in You know back in the 70s you'd have these familial romances and dramas that were simple and quiet and With a great budget, and they don't really do that much anymore No, like the the quality the actual like cinematography and quality of the film was so beautiful and I think we Yeah, right. I haven't seen a film that looks like that in a long time that had the pace that this did like watching The the guy bring the lunchboxes and just put them on every single desk I think he did that like three times. Yeah is so slow and for some reason Is he gonna get the same one like it's so yeah, I love it because it's it's it the first you're going man It's as as when you're used to Consuming Western content you're like oh man It's just taking its time with with these moments and then by the third time that it's doing it You're now in the you're now in his shoes and here like you could see him Yeah, lunchboxes and waiting for me and you're waiting for him to see and now all of a sudden You're wanting to see the note as much as he is and that's the kind of patience that I think is Missing in a lot of films These days. So did you like the film? It needed more white people For sure Yeah, I thought it was um I was it was whole it was funny without like Trying real hard to be funny. It was like very subtle and yeah, it was it reminded me of like You know just older movies that we like like Casa Blanca type movies where it's like we're not trying too hard to entertain. We're just gonna tell a story and then Entertain on the in the process. Yeah, I enjoyed it I've been watching The chipmunk Alvin of the chipmunks four times in a row. So anything is better than that He has he has two very young children for obviously nobody here that knows that Three-year-old and a one-year-old the one-year-old watched some of lunchbox with me and he liked it I think it just did it and did you did you guys like the film? Oh? I loved it. I did really liked it I my North American Little girl inside of me was like Why didn't they get together at the end? Yeah, like I like I so appreciate the beauty of it I understood like that the poetic nature of the quote and that they kept bringing you back And that's what it was all about which is so beautiful But like the girl that grew up on wrong coms was like come on You like there's that tiny part of you that's like man. That's really beautiful, but gosh I want my love action. Yeah Like she opens the door and he's there and and it's even like that like just even at the end with that moment of them finally See each other as them for the first time. Yeah, but I also love that I love when a film allows you to kind of Fill in the rest of the story I think the thing that that she does in this movie does really beautifully is it leaves you with a Feeling and a tone at the end. That's just like Right where you want to be and when we took it off We were getting ready for bed and I was like, well, what if he doesn't make it or like, what if you open the door? What if like are they gonna go to butan like what's gonna happen? Let's talk about the the actors You've seen ear fun and yeah other stuff you saw from probably in I'm guessing slum dog inception Spider-man and Jurassic world probably right and life of pie and life of pie. Yes So what did what did you think of your phone? he's great actor and I've only known him unfortunately as Like side character side character Jurassic world owner park park owner He's either he's like either like a mean billionaire Guy or like a mean scientist guy or he's some like just background character for the most part and so I Recognize him, but I this is where I see him I was like a main actor and I thought even he was quiet most of the time But he still was I loved his dry humor like a sarcasm was hilarious and without him trying I And then I started looking up more stuff about him because and I he I know he died this year And so I feel bad like I missed and this guy's supposed to be like Looking up like the best act your phone. What did you think of your phone con? the main just so Effortless just there's there's a beauty in a lot of like Older foreign actors that I see and in foreign films who There's just an unfussiness to everything. It's just like and I know that's the character too I get like emotional thinking about it. I think I You know, I worked on this show called the band's visit and that's based off of up Israeli Egyptian film and the lead actor and that reminds me a lot of that too where it's just this quiet stoicness of like carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders and Trying with all your might not to show it And like being able to just show a sliver or a crack in the tiniest eye movement or emotion or Gosh, just the moment that like we pause the film because it broke our hearts And it was so cute was when he buys the painting for himself And it's those little moments of you seeing this this man like crack open, but it's so minute it's yeah, he does it was such a delicate touch that it's I Forget which actor said it a director, but it's like an actor's job is not to push it all out It's actually draw the audience to you and he's like hit a me of that for the record. He's a Beautiful man like like him being the old man. I'm like come on You're even with those weird glasses. They put on you. You're gorgeous. Yeah, it's like it's like yeah, you know He's beautiful. Yeah Like even with his glasses, he's like you could tell man this guy's a beautiful gorgeous man gorgeous He's easily the most effortless actor I've ever seen in my life And that's the word that everybody that I've ever shown him to that's the word that they come up with it's just he's He doesn't even look like he's trying the the other actor who was the is basically his protege The guy he was he was training. What did you think about him? His name is no was it a no was it in Siriki? I? Really love I love this we kept We we so desperately wanted everything to work out for the main guy that we kept going like is he trying to screw him Over like is he like is he trying to steal something from him? Is he trying to get him fired like when he went into the office? I was like, oh my god that guy totally is trying to get him fired that is that douchebag of a guy And then he's like the sweetest dude It was awesome. He was such a foil too for for him because he brought all this like He was like this ball of energy that was the thing kind of cracking through the shell You know so surely and then him inviting him to his wedding is like the most heartbreaking sad like yeah But even those first couple scenes I think there's like three or four scenes were essentially all he says is good mornings Or yeah, you can see him Getting more and more frustrated and more and more desperate just minutely But but he's not there's not like a huge shift, you know, it's so good every time he was on the screen He was annoying The beginning he was very easily. Yeah. Yeah, but then he's it was just another good actor I like what you said about him because I think it it defines the movie Just specifically is that it was everything was effortlessly. Yeah, like it was just it was almost like a documentary but more entertaining and Not not boring but more but more It was just everything was more genuine and and and real and like him because he he wasn't trying to sell the jokes She got her name. Yeah, the the the the one that was making the food Yeah, that was making food. She I mean, I thought she did really well Yes, she was really good and I was I said everybody like even though her husband who Kind of can we say bad words in this? Yes. Absolutely. He was a dick But without trying like he wasn't like yeah, like trying to be yeah But like for being for being a hated character. He did a really good job at not You didn't know he was having an affair. They never said anything. No, the other thing with the movie They never really said anything. Mm-hmm picked it up like they like most American movies They think the audience is stupid and so they sell especially nowadays. I feel like they they Try too hard to to get you on in the joke or on in the the plot without us No, trying to figure it out ourselves. Yeah, this movie did with just being a simple kind of romance a comedy He like a crazy major deal on India and we just don't know him. He in my opinion One of the greatest actors I've ever seen But what you saw is not who we normally plays. He's normally a psychopathic villain Yeah, he he's one of my favorite actors he like he's played by like there's this film By the same writer, but it's obviously a very different tone. It's called Gangs of wasp her which is basically I need to see it five and a half hours film But he baits like a godfather lineage story and he's one of them and so he's murdering people left and right And so it says it's big ordeal, but that's what he's known for is playing the The bad guy or the villain or the the psychopath and so like seeing him in this role where he's so innocent and Like childlike almost at times. It's just shows you how great of an actor. He is because he's known as One of the best actors in India That makes sense So it also totally makes sense to me now like why there was this tiny little bit of us that was going like oh No, is this guy gonna screw him up? Even though he ends up not doing it. It's like has that energy where you're like that kind of Amazing like manic energy where you feel like it could turn into something else on a dime That's like casting is everything like there. It's in her writing, but that's also just perfect casting. Yeah, so great Yeah, what did you think happened at the end? Now what I wanted now what I thought was gonna happen Where did you think he was he was headed? Where did you think? Well, I thought they were gonna meet each other I thought that was gonna happen. I thought I think and they kind of touch like it's just it's such a smart movie because You think it's this leading to this romantic movie and I love romantic comedies, you know and so I And that's another great thing about watching a movie from someone else's culture I memorize like every plot of every movie Because I've seen almost every movie in America. So I know what's gonna happen. That's why I love romantic comedies It's the same plot that you know But you still love it this one you thought I'm like, okay, they're gonna meet it's still entertaining But they're gonna they're gonna meet and see they're perfect for each other or whatever But that didn't happen, but they kind of touched upon the whole metaphor of The train, you know You the wrong train leader. Yeah, I think it's it's like the wrong train can lead you in the right direction or something like that Yeah, it's oh and that kind of was talking about how the food went to the wrong place But kind of led them to a whole new like friendship, but I also think They learned something towards the end where like he learned his like Kind of he's aging, you know, he's old He's older than he realizes and that he needs to kind of accept that instead of fighting it that his life is But then it also at the end when he sees the guy on the train. He's like, I'm I'm not that old Yeah, so it's he was kind of it was kind of like a Thing cuz yeah, he did he did he was looking at him looking at his hands and so he might have changed his mind Mm-hmm. What do you what do you think happened? I mean, I loved I mean, there's the romance the romantic side of me that wants to think that He gets to the door right is there about to leave for boots her and her daughter is about to leave for Bhutan And they see each other and they have a moment and on a whim They they you know get on the train and go you know and I And to me like that's even where my story ends for them because I'm going like I don't want to think about like is Is it feasible because he says all the reasons why it might not be, you know as he feels like he's Slowly like entering his grave, you know Which I also thought was just done so beautifully as well That's the guy offering him his seat on the train like all those tiny moments that are The insidious things that creeped in all was so yeah, like him watching her in the cafe was so heartbreaking. I hate I feel the same way I wanted to end I wanted to end the exact same way and it's it's like It's okay if it doesn't work out because they got their shot at Seeing if it would we actually saw another Romantic comedy not that long ago, which actually is like the closest thing to a Like a really grounded romantic comedy. I've seen in the second which I'm actually love actually love actually it's this movie called Juliet naked which Ethan Hawke stars in and They sort of have a moment like that where There are these They probably will not work out like you have no idea if they work or not these two main characters that fall for each other But you end with that moment of them seeing each other and maybe there's a possible like maybe maybe there's that moment of Okay, do they find a way to make this work? but I love I kind of love that It says so beautiful to fall in love with someone through their words and just their feeling seen and food and food and food and Was there anything culturally you didn't understand in this film? Like was there something you confused you? There's things that surprised us. I actually didn't questions about but there was nothing Like we we were we were fascinated by the idea of Somebody coming and getting everyone's lunch bag. Yeah, like For work bring it to work and then bringing it home like that has been easy. It doesn't even bring it home Yeah, and they're really they're real there's a whole like culture around that or like, you know Yeah, they're they're a real thing. They and what they said in the thing like a Harvard Professor a group came and studied them and they literally never mess up. They're the most reliable delivery service in the world It's so it's pretty The fact that I don't know if you already knew is that they call anybody older than uncle or auntie I think I I think I knew that before but I loved I love that it feels us so I Like familial. Yeah, you know that one of my favorite characters in the entire film is actually the one you never see is auntie her upstairs That that's it coming down Just like as it like bounces actually that's a really beautiful story when when she writes to him about the ceiling fan Yep, it's so simple. I love that story so much and she said she cleaned it without turning it off Yeah, that's so I love that like she managed to somehow clean the fan without turning it off And it's like the highlight of her day. Yeah, was there anything in this that was culturally you didn't understand? That didn't understand didn't know yeah Just a whole the whole plot around the the lunchboxes was really neat Like I mean, we don't have that really here No, those are those are real people and in Mumbai that that actually do this basically how like they Husband and wife, it's they don't show affection a lot of times especially in public They don't do that about about the culture a little bit I also thought it was just because they're Dynamics, yeah, they're dynamic was definitely different because when you see The the weasel Assistant guy with his with his wife. They seems like Like a little even though they're more married yet, but they just is it was a very different contrast compared to her and her husband But yeah, so I kind of knew that the other thing was the whole Like I really thought for a minute until towards the end that she was talking to her real aunt the entire time Oh Gotcha, but that's what they call older. Yes, basically anybody that's older than you. That's not your grandparent is Called auntie or uncle if it's if it's a man They were calling him uncle on the on the train uncle. You can sit here. I Just love it. I love I love how I wish I wish that More Western audiences had the patience. Yeah for for this kind. I really I think they do I think they're just not shown it because executives or producers or or not You know, they're very risk-adverse Yeah, and you'll like it's risky to like, oh, well get to the action get to the thing You know get to the love story immediately. We need the meat. Cute now Yeah, exactly so much air around everything they do That's where the beauty is and I even think of like Daniel was on the set in In Italy and I visit him The director were cut like as soon as the last line was done and I was in video village and I was like I Wish they had just like let that go a little bit. Yeah, cuz that's that's where the fun is, you know That's magic and kind of happen is like you can tell that like There were probably moments that your phone like that they found with your phone where It was not scripted. It was just him reacting very, you know calmly in the moment And like just every time you would get a letter in the cafeteria and look around like every single time it Like the simplicity of that but the kind of how he knows it's a running thing that goes it's it's such a I feel like actors at that age and at that experience level have this really beautiful way of just being present and being themselves in the Moment, but also have like a bird's-eye view of all the pieces around them and knowing how to fit in to The larger picture. Yeah, absolutely. Would y'all be interested in watching more Indian cinema? I've told you yeah, please send me as much right because I'm always looking for any cinema that is not of These parts like there's a film called There's actually a film we just watched it's a Molly Allen film It's called a great Indian kitchen if you want to be pissed off Watch that film. Oh, it will piss you off Like so bad. It's a fantastic film. I'll send it to you But it's it's one of those things just could know just coming from a Western mindset and what this woman It's not what happens in all of Kerala or whatever, but this specific region where the men And they what they do is very religion-based And so it's very traditional and so what they put this woman through with her You know menstrual cycle what they put her through with cleaning up and and cooking and oh, it's just Is the film critiquing that or it's just kind of showing it But it's it's very delicate like it. I think I think the film could be a silent film almost because they're just very little dialogue I'll send it to you. It's a fantastic film, but it's one of those that will absolutely make you incredibly mad It made me mad Good Thank you for letting me know your thoughts I'm sure people will appreciate it Do you think this is a because I I did this because I did this with another friend of mine who had never seen at the time Another Indian film and he loved it as well Do you think this is a good introduction for a lot of? Americans in terms of being introduced to a different cultures film. Yeah, I'm hundred percent. I think so it's such a beautiful It's it's simple, but it has themes that are universal You know, it's a romance essentially and it's I mean it shouldn't be this way But it it has a feel to it when you first turn it on that it's like a very high-budget Hollywood American film, you know Yeah, it's I I'm I feel the same about there's a great Iranian film name filmmaker named ask our Farhadi who made film called a separation in the past and a bunch of stuff and I It's all the same, right? It's like it's it's a completely different culture, but the themes are universal And I think that films like this specifically It's it's such a good relay into that because you're It kind of sets you down like a like a feather almost like you're kind of like into the story very softly And I think it's great because then people go like oh, I can't be patient and the reward is Really soul-fulfilling in a different way then But it also had enough cultural difference laced in that it made me I Mean But I also like it it made me more curious about Indian culture. Yeah. Yeah, we don't understand or no yet And this one was a I picked this specifically because I think it is a good segue into it because there's some films that you can watch That will be extremely cultural but this one I felt like it was a little more of a Elegant segue from a Western point of view into what Indian cinema has to offer and there's a lot of it So I'm glad you guys liked it. Yeah, man. Thank you So would you be interested in watching more Indian cinema after this? Yes, and I And I did like right after I started looking yeah, you're watching one that I've yet to see so you're gonna have to Let me know how it is. I have like a list kind of because it gave you like what you want to watch No, what similar movies? Photograph, I don't know. Did you see photograph? I have not seen photograph yet. See same director Yeah, well, yeah, I I've heard about it Okay, that looked interesting because it looked like another romantic kind of movie So I wanted to watch that but then I wanted to watch Yeah, and this is just this is this is just Hindi as well. So this is a this is a Hindi film There's many different other industries other languages because as as I've told I think I told you before there's Yeah, a bunch of different languages than India. So there's other industries Tolugu, Tamil, Malayalam Hindi then there's Assamese, Gujarati, Punjabi Yeah, there's there's a bunch of and they're all industries in the same country that that make that make film So before you watch anything ask me first in case I have you come on and do another Do another review Because I can recommend you stuff But also I can recommend you to stay away from certain things that even we didn't understand And get I really I'm really getting into any medium after I watch that. I'll ask you did you Should I watch that Shakespeare one you were telling me about you don't watch that yet, but I'll I'll ask Oh, I know you like Shakespeare. So that's not yet earphones in that one He is in that one, but yeah, wait Well, he this this director actually has The director of that is names for Shaw-barred wash he that Heather is Hamlin Hey, I'm okay, but he's also got baby Shakespeare. Yeah, he's also got Omkara, which is Othello and then he's got McBool, which is Macbeth So he did basically like a trilogy of Shakespeare essentially, but now I get why you got so into because it's It's well, it just opens up like a whole nother Culture and after a while you get and I love movies and I still watch the movies that come out But it's the same movies Yeah, so like it just introduced an entire world to us of different artists and and and there's it's not all great But a lot of it is great just like it just just like here We have Dwayne the Rock Johnson movies and then we have you know good movies So it's the exact same Like you I mean we both grew up watching the base of the same movies and one of the same movies You know every actor you know Who's gonna show up and me watching a movie and the only actor I know is played bit parts and you know Slumdog Millie. Yeah, and a spider-man movie. Yeah, I Enjoyed them more because I'm not I'm not judge, you know judging what I've seen before you don't you don't know Exactly, so it was like finding out Like I don't know something new about a Love yeah, you know cuz I love movies and yeah, it just it took me back to like So when movies were we're simple and not just entertaining. Yeah, and I felt like this me back to Let's just make a movie about people. Yeah well, we We indoctrinated another one guys, so Oh Hopefully we'll see you back Zach to watch another family and you're gonna have to let me know how Hindi medium is Yeah, I'll definitely finish it. Um, I had to watch my movie like four o'clock in the morning because That's what happens when you have kids. They run the house and I have to sneak away to watch my own movie on my phone That sounds wrong Yeah, no, it's watching any Nice