 Live from Boston, Massachusetts, it's theCUBE, covering Red Hat Summit 2017, brought to you by Red Hat. Welcome to the session wrap of the Red Hat Summit. I'm your host, Rebecca Knight, along with my co-host, Stu Miniman, wrapping up three great days of open source talk. Where are we, Stu? Tell us the state of Red Hat, the state of open source, what have we learned? You mean beyond we're in the seaport district of Boston, Massachusetts. We're a couple blocks away from the new open innovation lab coming from Red Hat. So, Rebecca, it's been a lot of fun with you these last couple of days. I feel the same way. Did over 30 interviews, executives from Jim Whitehurst, on down to many of the product teams. Many people are participating greatly in open source, open innovation award winners. The women of open source award winners, open innovation lab participants, a lot of topics. But, okay, Red Hat itself. I've worked with Red Hat in various roles in my career for quite a long time. We didn't talk a lot about Linux this week. Stu, Stu, Stu, I've got to stop you. Linux is containers, containers is Linux. We're hearing so much about containers. It's the same diff. Yeah, well, I got the t-shirt, Linux is containers, containers are Linux. However, if I even look at Red Hat's messaging, Red Hat Enterprise Linux is like the first platform what they build around. And it's a little surprising that they didn't, at least in the conversation we had, it was very much about some of the newer things. Coming into the show, I said, what's the progress that they've made around some of the cloud offerings, some of the management offerings, Ansible weaving its way into a lot of the products. OpenShift really maturing and expanding the portfolio of things like the OpenShift IO to be able to really help with application modernization. Middleware progressing, even heard a little bit of a future where they're doing things like serverless. So Red Hat's making good progress. We love when we do these shows multiple years is they talk about it, do they deliver on it? And you know, a couple of guys talked about there's a little bit more transparency and open source and being part of all of these communities, you have some visibility as to where you're going. It doesn't mean that things don't slip every now and again and not every piece makes it into the product lease that they're expecting. But they've made great progress. Linux still is just a mainstay. It's a piece of lots of environments. The ecosystem reminds me of some way that I talk about OpenStack, which we'll go into next week. We had a great session with Radesh towards the end here talking about OpenStack in many ways is like that. It's weaving its way into lots of infrastructure pieces, some will dig into more this week, but let's focus on this week for now. Yeah. Right, so you said we didn't talk a lot about Linux. I said just straight there. But what else did we, what did you not hear? What do you remain skeptical of? As you said, Red Hat seems to be going from strength to strength. It had 2.4 billion in revenue this year. Yeah, and for 2016, 2.4 billion in revenue and 3 billion in bookings. Right. And there was, I read a financial report that Jim Whitehurst said the goal of the company is 5 billion within five years. And you look at it and say, okay, from 2.4 to 5, well, you know, actually if it was 3 billion in bookings, and I think back to three years ago when we first started, it was around 2 billion dollars, that was almost a 50% growth rate in three years. So if the three years from now we do 50% growth rate, we're going to have 3 to 4.5. Of course, the math's not linear. They're scaling of the company. There's lots of products in here, but they've got a big tam. Ambitious but achievable. Ambitious but achievable. The question we've had for a bunch of years is when I look at the cloud, public cloud is affecting a lot of the traditional infrastructure companies. Red Hat is a software company. They're an open source company. We heard the cloud messaging. Microsoft and Google up on stage, Andy Jassy on video. That was a big question coming in. What about Amazon? How close will Red Hat do? Amazon actually has their own AMI for Linux, which means I can get a package for Linux from Amazon. Not only that, I could take that package outside of Amazon and put it in the data center so I could use the same type of Linux for AWS to work with Red Hat to take Redshift, make what's deeper integration in the public cloud with AWS. And if I put that on premises, I'm going to have access to the AWS services so that tighter application integration for what they're laying out, really the open hybrid cloud. Red Hat terminology, we'll see if other people take that up, but really it's a multi-cloud world. And Red Hat has a good position to live in lots of those environments and provide, really help solutionize and give really that almost adult supervision that the enterprise wants for all of these open packages. So I was heartened to see the progress made, strong ecosystem, as always passionate, customers, developers and really just heartwarming stories of making the world a better place. What would you take on those pieces? Yeah. Yes, absolutely. And those are really what you come away remembering. It is the story of a woman saving a man's life in a park in Singapore. It is the story of an emergency room doing a better job of serving its patients. It is scaling up technology use in the developing world. I mean, these are, this is what you come away with. And you say that is open source. Maybe next year that Apple you get at the grocery store won't have been sitting there 18 months. Well, maybe. We're going to code climate. Boston's going to be beautiful and year round. No, but so I really do agree. And that is, I think, what Red Hat did so brilliantly at this summit is really showcasing the ways in which this technology is having an impact of transforming industries, obviously helping businesses make more money, but also really doing a lot of good. Yeah, absolutely. And Rebecca, I want a big shout out to the community here. This is a community show. Red Hat is a great participant of the community. We talked to Jim Whitehurst. They want to help raise up the community. It's not about Red Hat leadership. We don't hear number one at a show like this. We hear where they're participating and when they get involved, they go deep. We heard about open power, how excited they are that Red Hat, getting involved and working in some of these pieces. So we could not be here without Red Hat support. It's our fourth year doing this show. We had a blast with it. We see Red Hat at a lot of shows. They bring us great customers, their ecosystem partners and their executives and it's been a pleasure to cover it. Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more and I do think just in terms of what you're talking about, the humility of the Red Hat folks is that they aren't going around banging drums of we're number one in this and number one in that and you sort of think, okay, blah, blah. No, they don't at all. They really are saying, no, we're about making our partners and our customers shine. Yeah, what's going to happen with the future of jobs? Where are people going to work these days in the future? What kind of processes will they work? We're all said it's very much a global ecosystem here. We've got to interview quite a few international guests here and hear how technology spreading, how people are interacting, how innovation happens in a global environment. I'm sure it ties back to a lot of the things that you write about. No, absolutely, and I think that that is, I mean, Redesh, some of his words of wisdom was, technology is the easy part. What we need to be fundamentally rethinking is how we write these applications, how we develop these applications, how we design them and how we deliver them and also really bearing in mind the end user. And that is, I think also what we learned and also a lot of our other sessions is really thinking about that. We heard from another person, you know, your competitor is maybe not necessarily the competitor you're thinking of. It's the last app you opened or the last application that that company was using and what is drawing them toward that application or that technology or that infrastructure and not yours. And so it's really thinking much more broadly about technology and who you're competing with and how you're working. Yeah, it was a bank, I love that. They were like, we're not competing against other banks. It's like, where's that other attention span that you have? Where are your eyeballs? We know, one of my favorite lines is, you know what, you, Michael Angelo and Einstein have in common, you only have 24 hours in a day so you need to make sure you take advantage of that. That's the kind of thing that when you leverage the community, I thought it's inspiring is, we can do great things, you know, if we work together and do that. So we're always like, oh, I'm too busy or I don't have time. It's like, you know, hogwash, that's not the case. I'm inspired and fired up after all the conversations we had, especially some of these great users here and looking forward to the next one. You're looking forward to the next one, you're looking forward to OpenStack coming up. Yeah, oh my gosh. So, right, Rebecca, you know, next week, we're both going to be on theCUBE but in two different locales. Our team is in the midst of, you know, the sprint that is the spring tour. So we had the Micron event and we're here next week. Our team is at Service Now Knowledge. We're also at Dell EMC World in Vegas. We're at OpenStack Summit back in Boston. We've got some of our teams going to Microsoft Build and I'm sure we'll have analyst reports followed from there. Boy, do we have more shows than I could mention through the rest of May and June and beyond. Check out SiliconANGLE.tv to catch all of them. You know, Rebecca, I'm going to let you do the close but I have to say big thanks to our team here and remote Leonard, Chuck, Alex, Ava. We love you all. Jeff and the team back there, you know, pulling off. We were doing some cool things playing with Facebook live as part of this event. We always love, you know, playing around with some of the new technologies, finding more ways that we can help reach you. We always appreciate your feedback. And Rebecca, take us on home. Thank you so much for joining us here at the Cube Red Hat Summit Boston, Massachusetts. I'm Rebecca Knight for Stu Miniman. Thanks so much.