 And you would pay but there are some that might not want to Well, that's a great thing. I mean, that's it would come after the initial game like they do. I mean, it just be a deal That's DLC and it's yeah, it's very common But it splits the player base and requires people to spend more money Are you an artist? Are you are you just a ruthless capitalist? Patrick Nick with a C in the chat room wrote il y a une propagande Program gets bigger neither it would it would be a masculine word. So it would be il y a un programme With a C Sony control time. Ah, we Tom done a controller We Stay really out control How do you say is that control back? Hmm what do you say? How do you say the source in French? This is us Actually Patrick I had an idea one day because I was doing my little French app and Like half the words that day were just cognates, you know, like in the pharmacy. I'm like, all right fine I was like, we should do we should do a joke Patrick teaches Tom French where you just teach me all like cognates Just to be clear cognates are words that sound the same in both languages that are pretty yeah Either either they're exactly the same or when they're pronounced. They pretty much sound the same. Yeah, yes, that would be perfect How do you say tennis shoes? But then you have to drop the shoe, which is yeah, I know that was not the best example you're right Tom, what's the app that you're using? Memorize What's it called? Memorize Memorize. Yeah, me and I miss me. I was very into Duolingo for a while and it was I Was doing it for French and a friend of mine was doing it for Spanish but you know, we were playing each other, you know, and That was really motivating because we both wanted to be the best I ran I was doing Duolingo for Spanish and I ran out I like got to the end and there was no more on the app anyway Like you could do other things on the website, but I was like, oh, but I kind of I don't have any more lessons You're pretty dedicated because it's there's a lot of levels. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I had a great time with Duolingo, you know, it'd be like, you know, you know, I Translate something and it's like she is fat and it was like wrong. She is tall Yeah, because I see it grown. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's sorry. Yeah, it's just it was a comedy Are y'all ready? I'm ready. Are you least oh? Are you what? All right, here we go Daily Tech News show is powered by you bet you didn't know that find out more head to Daily Tech news show dot com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, October 24th 2017 from DTS headquarters in LA on Tom Merritt and from the beach also in LA where it's very very hot today I'm Sarah Lane and from the country retreat in Finland. I'm Patrick Bejo And our producer Roger Chang is alongside sweltering in a different part of Los Angeles Roger Yes, it is an oven where I live There was an old producer who lived in an oven That's exactly where my draft in winter Let's start with a few tech things you should know Multiple security companies are reporting Tuesday that a wave of ransomware has Begun sweeping across Eastern Europe. It's called bad rabbit. Although Sarah and I decided it should be called rad rabbit Earlier the typo though bad rabbit would have been better I hit the hitting parts of Ukraine Russia Germany and Turkey uses disc Cryptor to encrypt the hard drives target your master boot record. It's nasty among the affected companies are Russian news agency Interfax key of Metro and Odessa Airport Never good when an airport is the target around Google has added more than 50 games and activities and stories aimed at kids do its Google assistance Which will work on Android phones and the Google home speaker the company is also adding voice Identification for children that makes it easier to recognize kids voices the features do require a family link account That's for kids under the age of 13 That's how they get you they start you off with games and activities and pretty soon They have everything they get that you are and Turn 14, they know everything about you exactly Instagram is rolling out a new feature for users who run live video streams to add guests into their videos The company started testing the feature back in August Which lets users click an ad button in the corner of the screen to add a single guest in At a time videos can be saved to users stories and shared to Facebook stories as well So they let more than one person and we'll start using it instead of Hangouts Exactly it feels like you know hangouts is nice But it feels like YouTube live and maybe even twitch should have that kind of thing maybe twitch does actually don't think so Lenovo and Intel announced the first built-in Authentication for PCs that adheres to the Fido Alliance standards Those of you have been paying attention no Fido wants to get rid of passwords It come up with a better way to authenticate Lenovo computers can use the Intel online connect service to securely log you in Sometimes without needing a password. It's another step in that direction anyway Now here are some more top stories Apple announced that the iPhone 10 will be in stock in its physical Apple stores on November 3rd for customers Who arrive early to snag one and you probably do want to arrive early if there's a lot of demand anyway on the day because Supplies reportedly pretty constrained this time around pre-orders for the iPhone 10 begin at 12 o 1 a.m. Pacific time October 27 So Patrick are you gonna get in line? Of course. I I'm already in line. This is the Finnish countryside Apple store Don't you wish that were true Well, no because you're gonna be here in the US for blizzcon And and this is like to me the safety net for those of us who try on October 27th to order one and and and Don't luck out because I think it's going to be one of the hardest iPhones to get in a long time Now granted a lot of you don't care and that's good For those that want to buy one the less that one at the better Yeah, I think you know 12 o 1 pre-order start the 12 o 2 when they're all gone the lines start forming And I will predict something One once the phone has actually gone on sale and a lot of people have not gotten one They will go back to the iPhone 8 because quite honestly the 10 doesn't really have a lot To offer compared to the 8 but some people might be holding out in case they get one And so the slouching sales of the 8 might get a little bit Re-invigorated after the tank comes up I've had some good luck with the physical stores when I got the MacBook Pro the new one with the touch bar Which I actually don't really like that much, but hey, I got it Friends of mine who had pre-ordered, you know, it was it was very back-ordered and when I went into the store They just had some there So I ended up getting it weeks before the folks that tried it way harder than I did. Yeah I think in this case though Maybe finding a t-mobile store that has them that people don't realize has them might be your your best bet if you're Really looking for it, but the Apple stores are gonna have big lines is my guess US Department of Justice has changed its policy on data demands from always Requiring a never-ending gag order If you remember they used to basically say we need information on this user You can't tell the user and you can't tell anybody that we requested anything like it was a full-on gag order Microsoft's been challenging that and now the Department of Justice says we're changing our policies in most cases With with some exceptions, we will allow Companies to tell customers that their data has been requested and given to law enforcement Now these these are with court supervision here, but the gag order prevented people from knowing it Microsoft was pursuing a lawsuit against The stored communications act that was being used to authorize the gag order Microsoft was saying I don't think that's constitutional You shouldn't be allowed to do that. So Microsoft's dropping the suit now Which means the story communications act won't be ruled on but There's enough people calling for a revision not only of that, but the electronic privacy information act that There we may see all of this ripped up anyway it seems like for now at least this change is it sounds like it makes sense and I would say as Surprising is that may seem too many people looks like the system has done its job and it is working Yay Yeah, I mean it's one of those classic cases of overcorrection, right? The Department of Justice said you know what just always put a gag order Then we never have to worry whether we you know whether we're tipping off somebody that we shouldn't But that also meant that customers were having their data looked at without having any idea even if they were innocent because and and the public in the form of Microsoft pushed back and things got adjusted so Wonderful now. I mean it seems like this is we'd have to dive into deeper, but it seems like this is more reasonable So yeah, I mean if I as a Microsoft customer if I specifically was getting my data looked at That would be one thing. I mean, that's not what Microsoft is getting right? They're just allowed to tell customers as a whole. Hey, this is a thing that's been requested, right? so There's still probably a fair amount of confusion and hysteria that can arise just from people being like am I part of this thing but it it seems like the right move, you know, I can't imagine a Company like Microsoft being like sure gag orders make sense. No, I If I have this right, they will be allowed to tell customers that their data has been surrendered a specific person It seems like it because they were already able to say we have received, you know between one and 999 requests for information with that, you know of that type so That was already happening, but and and it would make sense, of course as well that in certain cases that are particularly sensitive They would retain the right to have a gag order. So anyway I mean, it sounds like it makes more sense than what we had before systems working everyone's Almost everyone's happy. Yeah, I think I'm sure we're gonna get emails, which will be Not everybody's happy, but they're happier than they were right Monday the information reported that snap ink had made too many Spectacles and now a few hundred thousand are sitting in a warehouse CEO even Spiegel Recently said that the sale of a hundred and fifty thousand spectacle exceeded company expectations Spiegel also said it would take maybe a decade for the product for the product to become important Last spring a snap acquired UAV maker control me robotics But could not afford to also acquire China's zero zero robotics I love that whole like, you know what we got ten years guys So just sit back and let us undersell for a while. This is a long game They so so the reasonable response to this is ah snap overordered and they've got you know user plateaus This isn't good not even disagreeing that that is a rational analysis of the situation But if I may one of the things I do is try to find other explanations to consider and I'm putting so much pre-verification because I'm like this isn't what I believe but You could look at this and say hey, you know what if you have a visionary CEO Who knows that they're playing the long game with hardware. He's like just order No, just order way more than we need we can use the spare parts We don't want to run out of these things and a couple hundred thousand a warehouse is not really gonna cost us a lot of money To store so go for it and then of course when gizmodo or the information or somebody finds out about it It sounds bad, but the company may have known all along that. Yeah, we're gonna have a bunch of extras sitting in a warehouse I'm sorry go ahead rudder. I I'm giggling because yes, I understand the you know the Taking that side of the argument, but honestly, I can't imagine if a hundred and fifty Thousand is exceeding expectations. You don't order five hundred thousand I mean, that's just not how things are done. Maybe they could get in startup land where you've got money to throw around though Well, it's still I mean maybe but it sounds highly improbable the more probable Explanation is that they order too many and they don't want to admit it I mean, I actually think both are true My my honest opinion is because some of these are in parts. They're not assembled is they said look over order. It's fine We we can absorb the cost. We'd rather have enough yet These aren't like really yeah, and then and then they got really excited about the sales And maybe even up to the order because of that and then it turned out that they really didn't sell as many as they Don't so I happen to live in the same town that snaps headquarters is sure. Yeah, you're right over there Venice, California It's it's all it's like me and everyone else is a snapchat employee and So it's a you know for better or for worse. There's just a lot of Why Sarah is wearing yellow today so she can go unnoticed on the streets. That's right give the employee discount You know, they all get all the like lunch places around here. It's just it's insult to injury really, but there is a Physical snap spectacle kind of pop-up store. It's been there for a while down on the boardwalk and The whole thing is weird They've kind of got these kiosks where you can get the spectacles and there are employees of snap or at least people who have been hired To be there for the day who are kind of trying to get people off the boardwalk and like get interested So I can see where a lot of spillover sort of works for just hey learn more about our company while you're here tourist But it's never very crowded in there and it always feels a little like like I never want to go in there and talk to any of the employees it feels Forced and kind of desperate. I have to say I think we can all agree that spectacles are not a hot item Right now, but I also don't think this is the end of the hardware strategy. I don't think they thought spectacles would be the thing Right. Well, okay They are talking about the product that will become important I guess another aspect and I'll end on this another aspect that leads me to believe that they overestimated is that You know when they first launched, I think most people myself certainly thought spectacles were kind of dumb and You know, sometimes you have that opinion initially and you're proven wrong I don't think over the course of the life of those of that product We've realized that actually spectacles were a stroke of genius and they're awesome and people want them No, in case there was any confusion. Sarah does not work for snapchat. We were joking. I did not work for snapchat Yeah, I know I don't I work very close in proximity. Yes geographically Yeah, but no, I am not part of the company Google launch third-party add-ons for Gmail Tuesday So companies like a sauna into it QuickBooks Trello Reich ring central are among the companies with launch add-ons Available to enterprise and individual users. This is not one that's just showing up for G suite folks Add-ons will show up in the right side pane of Gmail and they work on the web and on Gmail for Android Google says they're working with Apple to try to bring them to the iOS version of Gmail You can start installing add-ons from the G suite marketplace, but again, don't have to be a G suite subscriber to do it It's like, you know, I'm super excited about it except I'm just not sure why you know It's just add-ons adding functionalities. None of these Tools or companies that are part of the launch are anything I use, but I'm still excited for Roger and I decided to You know start to do some stuff behind the scenes in Trello And it was nice because instead of me having to remember my Trello login and I have one But I just like I probably have to reset my password. I was just like go go great. So it worked out nicely As a log in definitely All right Facebook tested moving page posts from the news feed to the explore tab Causing a 60 to 80 percent drop in referral traffic to the affected sites Now the test is only in certain parts of the world started last week in Sri Lanka, Bolivia Slovakia Serbia Guatemala and Cambodia and is expected to last a few months Facebook's VP of news feed out of Mosseri says They don't have plans to roll out the test any further and pages that paid for ads still showed up in the news feed Yeah, so a lot of people are looking at this as Facebook saying hey You want your stuff to show up in people's news feed got a pay for an ad I I Doubt that they would roll it out this strictly in the rest of the world But and I really think they are trying to test it Everywhere, but man if you're in one of these countries and you're a company that just lost 80% of your traffic that is not okay Yeah, it's also quite interesting. I think that Facebook at least in this test is looking at ways to make Facebook Little bit more personal again. Maybe you know the feed has become this weird Forest of stuff that users don't care as much as they should maybe that's a way of focusing back on People that they actually know and personal connections Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Don't forget about our other show daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines.com you can subscribe as a podcast get it on the Amazon Echo it's on Google Home and available in the anchor app All right So Wall Street Journal says that Sony is about a month away from announcing a new robot dog with smart home capabilities We don't know if it's gonna be called I bow. We don't know how much it's gonna cost We don't know if it'll be marketed to just adults or children and adults or whatever But it is a return to the robot dog roots of I bow that Sony introduced And at the same time today the United States FTC issued the following guidance Regarding voice-activated devices saying they will not pursue action against companies that collect voice data of children If they turn it into text for the purposes of tasks that don't involve personal information And then immediately delete it the problem was if say an Amazon Echo had a child say call 9-1-1 That was technically in violation of COPPA because you aren't allowed to collect information from a child without parental approval And then so what the FTC is saying is we're gonna try to take some common-sense approach here as long as you immediately delete it You're not asking the child's name or age or any personal info like that Then then you're not we're not gonna go after you for that but it brings up this whole idea that we've got Sony coming out with Essentially a toy to control your smart home. You've got the FTC starting to deal with voice activation and there's tons of toys out there The Mattel Aristotle has an uninterrupted connection to the internet records video and audio There was the Kayla doll that was taken off the market in Germany because of a Bluetooth vulnerability where it could be hacked And it could steal all this information that was recorded from children and And Patrick it brought up the question with you. Are we ready for AI toys? so that is indeed something that I think is really interesting because We're not I think everyone would agree. We're not quite there yet but we're maybe close enough that AI toys would have a specific type of functionality that would be interesting as a product and maybe appealing to children and I mean, there's AI toys in general and there's the Ibo dog that Sony made which is an entirely In its category of its own because it tried to mimic dogs at a time when it wasn't really possible to do that technically efficiently But I think if we're talking about Ibo to start off that thing was pricey I mean the base model I believe was like two point five thousand dollars. Yeah, and Today with that kind of money the AI would be a software anyway So that doesn't really factor in as much But mechanically you could make something that is probably quite impressive for that amount if that's how expensive you're gonna sell it and if you include the right software at the right AI Do you then create? Machine that Children can Ibo's aren't necessarily only for children but that children can relate to and have some kind of relationship to affection, you know relationship to and Is that good? It might be good. Is it, you know concerning certainly there are some concerns but seeing how Quickly children adapt to technology and we've all heard stories of kids Going to a TV screen and trying to you know swipe on it like it was a touch surface. I I think this is gonna come a lot faster than we expect and I'm not sure I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not sure it's a good thing it Stefania Druga and Randy Williams wrote a post for the MIT Media Lab Back in July about a paper called hey Google Is it okay if I eat you initial explorations in child-agent interaction? they presented it at a conference in Stanford on June 27th and It essentially was a study of about 27 children between the ages of four and ten Where they said alright, let's have them interact with an echo a Julie chatbot a Google home a teen of the t-rex A my friend Kayla the same doll we were talking about that had the vulnerability and Cosmo Cosmo is probably the most popular of these because it's a little robot that rolls around and can Manipulate these particular blocks and it has expressions that change depending on what you do and they wanted to find out How this exposure to AI affected children? It's one thing for a child to sort of add a personality to a doll It's another thing for the doll to gain the personality on its own I think that that's They would the the the research was really eye-opening especially because a lot of these engineers were like The stuff that we thought was the coolest part of these toys is stuff that sometimes the kids don't even care about You know kids are like are you a boy or a girl little AI toy? You know just things that you know a child might just ask another child or want to know about another person or an animal What kind of animal is this you know or you know what? Do you have arms and stuff that the AI toy doesn't know how to answer because it's not really you know asking questions like Internet questions about the world that can be searched and then regurgitated. I thought that that was pretty fascinating And of course if you are marketing You know any kind of AI to a kid It's obviously you have to be really careful, but it's like I was thinking about this as an only child I'd spent a lot of time alone. So I'm really used to interacting with toys and Computer games and all sorts of stuff on on various levels And it's like a lot of this just feels like the next generation of a computer game that gets to know you and knows your strengths And maybe you know, we'll we'll give you back a math problem that it's trying to help you learn better Because you have gotten it wrong a lot of times in the past that sort of thing So some of this seems like oh, it's just a sort of a smarter way for kids to learn things But at the same time if a toy sort of understands that a child has You know, maybe some learning limitations or is really good at certain things and not others Is it going to be in the child's best interest to continue interacting with an AI toy that That is going to give it a different experience than the next kid. I mean, I don't have the answer I think it's really interesting and a little bit troubling but in general it seems like These toys can be really educational That's my optimistic Overall thought about this. I think like the the study the MIT study showed Education is where our minds go to as adults who look at the the the useful way of engineering these things kids Apparently just anthropomorphize the thing immediately While at the same time, you know, they asked you have arms are you boy or girl or as you said and at the same time? It seems like at least those kids that they talked to Had absolutely no confusion about the fact that that wasn't a person and it might seem like yeah Well, of course, but you know, they stopped interacting with it when they stopped interacting with it They were like, oh, yeah, it's it's a funny thing where you know, it seems intelligent. It doesn't seem intelligent That kind of thing and on the other side what you were saying Sarah is kind of something I didn't even think about It's you spent a lot of time playing with toys and maybe anthropomorphizing Those as well, you know, so you would talk to a doll or you know, when I say you it's everyone You talk to a doll or toy or you know get your Cars to to do things with another five years old I had a pillow called chubby checker because it had checks on it that I had a whole personality assigned to it never changed Expression or anything and that was also a personality that you assigned to it based on your imagination Yeah, you know what you knew at the time so this kind of like oh the toy will get to know the child but The child isn't telling the toy how to be the toy and that's one of the opportunities here is like and I think that's why this kind Of pilot study is great is let's find out how kids interact with these so we can make these work better for kids to educate them and Let the kids have influence over the toy and maybe even teach them social skills Mm-hmm, and I think there's a really important aspect to the Sony thing as well Which is something that always comes back when you start talking about robotics and and you know Robots becoming lifelike Where our mind as Westerners go is immediately well how dangerous is it and I think for children It also translates into oh, well if it's educational that it's okay, but how will it you know, how will they? The not manipulate the children but what influence bad influence will it be for their psyche? and the the Japanese Usually have a more positive outlook on on robots and they think you know they can be friendly they can be helpful and they can be and I think It seems to me when I stop My my fears for a second It seems to me that there isn't really a reason why these things would be dangerous with a kid You know, it's not like they're gonna catch on fire unless they they're made with you know Gaxeno 7's or is that? Tired already. Yes, but you know, they're not gonna catch on fire. They're not gonna Psychologically, I guess damage the child. It's not like they're they're manipulating them as You know psychopaths So it's just a friendly Thing they can play with and if children understand that this is a toy I don't see this as more dangerous than a dull that peas which my niece is really wanted for Christmas last year You know or Teddy Ruxpin I mean Teddy Ruxpin pretended to have expressions and understanding even though it didn't And and and so, you know, really I think I think the real fear is Security and data protection. Can the thing be hacked? What kind of information is it collecting and where is it stored? and the nice thing about some of these I think Cosmo for One example, no data is transmitted or stored online with Cosmo and that that's certainly one thing I'd want to make sure of But again, so with something like Cosmo, it's like yes, it's AI, but it's limited, right? Because it's not getting more information from any sort of cloud. So it's like It's like AI light in a way because this is some sort of 8,000 programmable Ways that we can go based on what a child might say back and forth with the toy But it's not a pretty smart AI system that even learns locally stored I'm not saying the Cosmo does that but that you don't have to use the cloud To have that so and I think the more possible all the time The first step is probably gonna have to be that because of course, you know protect the children And I think it's as I'm about to become a father myself. I might be a little bit more sensitive to these kinds of arguments I think the first step might be all right. Let's just for kids It's not gonna be an Alexa or Google Assistant or whatever Let's just see what we can do locally and those things would be Marketed as such like this toy Doesn't even connect to the internet when you disconnect it after the update, right? Yeah And that would be a better choice to do that. Yeah. Yeah, and then things can evolve from there Hey, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com It's one of the places we find great stories like this and you can also carry on the conversation in our Facebook group facebook.com Groups daily tech news show Sarah. What's our message of the day? Our message of the day comes from Mikkel Who says keep up the fantastic work? So thanks for that But also just a quick note about backing up your authenticator tokens Tom and I were talking about this with Veronica yesterday on the show Steve Gibson from security now That's on the twit network recommends taking a screenshot and then printing them out Store the papers in a secure location and then whenever you get a new phone scan your stack of papers. It's easy It's secure and it's backup that you control Oh, that's so smart the QR code that you use to scan to start your authenticator Just print that out then you don't have to start from scratch with your authenticator Google authenticator lets you install multiple machines But you have to start from scratch so that you can scan the QR code for everybody unless you've done this now Granted codes aren't one-time use that I wasn't sure of no, no They just go away and so the key here is keep those papers secure, right? You know, don't carry them around with you in your your backpack I guess and the other thing is that if you have it on more than one device You now have more than one device that could be compromised and used And you also need a printer and Come on, can't we be paperless already? Yeah. Oh, I know you can just you can just Print them as PDF and then store them in the cloud. That's a great Exactly. No Well, that's it for this episode of DTS. 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They'll just be me Sarah and Roger Like tomorrow's guest Sarah Lane looking at our notes like kind of a joke is this I mean no guess let's talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants calm I Mean club hopes you have enjoyed this bro. Yeah Good job. It was a great show great show. I'd like to say I've conversation a lot Yeah, it was good stuff Good topic there Patrick Beja. I can't believe it hasn't been just you and me and Roger yet Tom But I guess it's been we've done all sorts of combinations, but not not the trifecta not just the yeah, yeah Titles be wary very quiet. We're hunting bad webbits Where how spectacle? Google assistant does play kid games My password is Fido. Mmm. I didn't care for it, but I got it That's funny there'll soon be smart toys for your kid a I a I oh Soon be smart toys for your kids Hunting bad webbits Fido thy do Robot dog roots The Sony's owner the Sony's robot dream of digital bones See teach the teach the children AI They teach the children well That cross me stills in ash You talk to a doll. What do you like Roger? Um, I do like though be so I like they'll they're soon They'll they're soon be smart toys for you kid. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I have that by my tube be too long It's a little long my kids toys smarter than your honor student We didn't say that but I guess that's not really a Yeah, it's in that we don't have to have said it as long as it's in the spirit of the I Want to speak and spell that teaches you you know, it's very interesting in a in a game One of the the protagonist you play has a little cyber buddy called a what tell it which is a little AI Gorilla like plushie, but it talks to you but can also store your messages Emails contacts and all that so it's like a personal assistant slash cyber buddy So like my buddy doll except it actually Interacts with you. That's what the Aristotle was Was it purple and shaped like a gorilla? Nope Far as I know Patrick what title do you like? um I don't have an opinion for once in my life What I don't know our opinion is I don't really Have one specific one that I gotcha Let's do the honor student one. All right. Hey, buddy Actually, that's the one that I like I was that's me Wait, do they have those in France or in Finland where people have bumper stickers about their kids at school? No, but I got the gist My kid is an honor student at blah blah blah elementary and then there's the popular my kid beat up your honor students Which is what's that hilarious? It's it is but it's also like what in the world But kind of bumper stickers that but it's still because bullying smart kids is what we should be Yeah, it's like smart kids. It's any kid Right non-smart kids Yeah, no, I was I was merely speaking to the specificity of the bumper sticker. I was not encouraging anything not covered by it Breaking news some merit encourages bullying a note of non-smart only have enough of that rhetoric right now Do you guys have the stick figures that represent the number of people in the family on the back of your cars Yeah Bumper stickers even big. Oh, sorry. I think it was actually Veronica recently Where she was part of the conversation on Twitter where someone who was like, why do people put baby on board things? You know in their window It's like because like if there's a baby on board like everyone will just magically be a better driver like you know like you'd be like a More reckless driver around a non-baby on board vehicle, but then somebody chimed in and said actually it's because if there's an accident The paramedics know to get the child out. Oh, oh Now, I don't know how true that is but I was like, yeah That sounds like something somebody said without checking to see if it was true But still because I kind of feel like when there's an accident that the paramedics go and save everyone They can they don't look for baby on board signs Maybe I would say I would say also a baby on board sign is not a reliable indicator that a baby is in fact on board No, but you check they don't they don't go away babies Tom. I think they check anyway is what I'm saying But they double No, it's kind of weird because I've seen them more Like they kind of died out for a while now they've come back Like for for a while that you only saw him in a few cars, but I see him on more cars now Kind of like how sexy seniors used to be a thing on like RVs and stuff like sexers sexy seniors on board But you don't see them anymore What do you try to say Roger? No, I'm just saying that you don't see those Senior is it like after retirement? It's getting older on time. I think it's older now I thought it's when you started collecting social security, which is what 67 now. I think is it Started at 65, but he's 80. So ha Apparently Twitter is gonna label political ads now Mm-hmm, and they're gonna include who bought them and how much they are spending we kind of talked about that last Thursday Really? Yeah, because John McCain was joining the bill that that is going to ask for that. Oh, okay Well, maybe Twitter I think what you're seeing probably is Twitter just said we're gonna do it. We don't care if there's a bill No, I think they do it already in that. Oh will now label. Okay. Yeah. Oh Nick with the sea he writes in the chat room Roger seniors got realistic So, you don't see those sexy senior. Do you agree with him? I think it's because seniors were being targeted by con men who would see them at least according to like a Newspaper story like many years ago. I don't remember. It's 20 years. Yeah, that just sounds like somebody decided that was true Like you don't need a seniors or sexy on board to tell if a senior is in there That is not that is not how you find your marks. I'm pretty sure that's how you fight you you have a set of RVs I don't know they look old But they don't have a sexy seniors on board sign But five other ones have homely senior signs on board They would have never known we were seniors if we hadn't had that sexy seniors on board sign listen Tom Just you really don't like old people or babies Just because something doesn't mean it's not true You know fair enough your libido doesn't have to go when you retire top Not what I was saying and you know it But maybe you know it. I think if your libido is good, you don't need a sign So no If this camper is never my No, is Sarah on the phone Yeah, oh We need to after the after done with this we need to pick a date for EMW before the months. Oh, yeah You know, it's it's weird because I always think oh, I'll have time off time I'll yeah, and the next thing you know month's gone time speeds up when you become a sexy senior It is. Oh, you know what I'd rather I want to be a sexy senior I want to be someone that like man. He looks good for his age. You do Wow, wait, you're saying I'm a senior Jesus Christ Well, you're not a junior No, no, I just said you look good for your age. That's all I spoke with a friend early bird special at every restaurant Spoke with a friend who just got a kid a year ago and he was telling me, you know until I had a kid Everyone would tell me oh, you really don't look 37 you Look younger and today he looked at a picture of him and he was like, oh crap. I look great So Part of it is Like part it's weird because there's there's people I know that are like Handling kids like is like water off a duck's back. It's it's It's a handful, but they're not stressed out about it like they yeah, those people are largely ducks Maybe I know it every every kid is different, right? Yeah, that's for sure. I say but there's only six models Are you next to six? Oh, I hear they go up to eight now. Yeah Hmm Next week I'm not on Roger. Do you remember okay? Yes, you have the 30 next week It's future decoded. Oh, yeah Yeah, and I will be I mean I think I will just have landed or maybe I will land like 30 minutes before the show So technically I Could show up at your door Potentially you could That's like me saying I'll just take the channel and I'll do the show from your house right It's just a hot step and a skip said hot skip That was like me thinking oh I'll be landing at Newark in plenty of time to get to my hotel and sit and watch the show Friday, which I did You know your hotel in Manhattan You know, alright, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna abscond all right Tom I We could be talking on Friday at the time of the thing that happens on Friday And you can let me know what happened. All right. I'm gonna ask you a follow-up question in just a moment Thanks, everybody for watching