 To the world. Representing Kangemi, she goes by the name Salema Mungai aka Kokey. Hi. Karibu Sana. Asa aunty. Kamerapu Nuriapu Evo No. 4. Yes. I'm finally glad we are here and we are ready to start this. We are ready to take this off. Yes. All right. Kokey. More ornite wa kokey. Kus you're breaking, una, una break, you can break. But this question was so many times. But it started when, you know, I used to listen to juwakali sana kitambo. And then this song al kongani bakusu lei fiyake when he was small and then he went to high school. And then it was a part where he said... You have to play that song. And then kuna patali, sayama, suju ika fika wapi ni kaza pchezana kuki. So every time that part is to come, nili kongani hirudia. So my cousin used to tell me, kuki niyama aga. Anani kafika tain flani. Now my cousin started calling me kuki. Kuki, kuki. So they say them kuki is just too tiring, too pronounced. So what I said me too, it's kuki. So that's how you name gopat. Yeah. Evo ambe juwakali wata kakulamo. He inspired me at a very small age. All right. Chariote juwakali. And he just told us you're dropping another one. If you're watching this, kuki is here and kuki would love to put in some mark with you. Kuki ni mo na umependa kudrop freestyles sana. Yes. Why not official tracks? Okay, freestyles, it's just... Most of the times when I'm in the studio, when my producer is playing me a bit, naji patangatu, I'm writing. So we decide, let's shoot this. And then we do. All right. Inakwangatu, sometimes it happens. Onkitu ya, raka, kitu organic, something to feed the fans. But it also helped me sharpen my writing. Yeah, it helps me sharpen my writing. All right, in the process. Okay, so the latest one you did and monainatuwa... Uh-huh, let me get in there. We are almost in there. Please remind me the name. Watadaya. Watadaya. Watadaya freestyle. All right, so I like Watadaya because you talk about bloggers, number one. I'm a blogger, so I don't know why you are hating on us. I'm not hating, but it's something that we are both relating to. I'm also a blogger. You're also a blogger? Yes. Okay. So it's something that me and Deutuna Jua, and this is what we write about. Okay, in this context, what are you saying exactly? Three years kugim? Yes. You say something about three years kugim? And then bloggers on a day I could write some that... Bile wasa ni awana pes. You think it's easy? All right. They think it's easy to make this cash. Yeah. What kind of mental space will you call a mental space when you can take it? What is the reason? Oh, no, but actually, it happened. We were just talking with him for some video. Shout to him, by the way. Shout out to me. I'm a producer. And I'm Alexa. Alexa? Shout out to Alexa. What's your name? Since I was born. Alexa K.E. On Facebook. Instagram and Twitter. Akuna fire beats, by the way. Yeah. So you were chilling with Alexa? Yeah. And then, you know, to look what you know we've done. It's even more when I had this omji because we have done a mixtape. We have a very huge catalog. And then, you know, the way artists always complain. I used to write a lot of stories the way artists are complaining. People are talking about them. You don't understand how this is in me. So I just gathered all that concept. It does not come from any me catching feelings or... Oh, I took you to a place Flania Rejo or something. No, no. All right, I get you. I get you, I get you. Nice one. So you were a blogger. You were a blogger before even rap. Yes, I was. You were an artist manager as well? Talent manager? A digital marketer. Digital marketer. Yeah, where I market artists. You market artists. All right. So from this experience that you have got, nene na fanya wasani wasi blo. As a digital marketer, as a blogger, somebody who tells stories and learns and an artist now, somebody who makes the art itself. Nene na fanya artist wasi blo. I think the way we market artists... Artists are watching us right now and they are recording songs. Na wablo na hangi takasana kujiwa. Bona yangwa ibo. It starts from the background where you don't have people who are supporting your art. That's one. So from all the way to marketing, when you don't have somebody who is supporting your art, uta fika pointene, you're not getting a place to record. I don't have a place to shoot a video. I need good visuals because nonam sa nipiakwa na presya, kukretu good visuals. But you don't. And each and every single thing is expensive. A budget to market my song. Somebody to help me push my song. Maybe a label which... Okay, there are artists who are independent and they know what they're doing. But at the same time, here and now, from the... The same idea. Palechini grass. Ground. For ground. Ningumu, because somebody to record lezima talipiakwa, video, marketing, all that. And you know when... These artists are too, these big artists. The intense marketing that goes in that song that they have released is huge. The budget is quite huge. So yeah, that is the problem. So problem after problem. Yeah. Like a chain reaction. Yes. Once unaitishwa doa unna una pata stress. Once we have pata stress and it translates to the other thing. Which translates to the other thing. So what is the solution? Getting a team? Yes, have a team. I am not going to tell you have a team, but try and have a team. I also don't know what's the problem is because... You're not a writer. You will find when we are... Kuna msa niya na toa wimboflani. Nebia. Nice hip-hop song. Ima talk and people like it. Allah fumimi, ni kujeni toa the same thing. And then pwa like. Ima pata like. How many views? A hundred views? And I've written something close to this. Yeah. It's just a lot of problems. You're trying to... Una jari boku kajri. All right, all right, all right. Whatever this artist is doing. Whatever this artist is doing. So be true to yourself also. So be true to yourself also. Yeah, be true to yourself. Just do your art. Yeah. Okay, I'm interested in this photography side of yours. How do you manage to do all these things and still remain true to your art? Photography, events, organizing, blogging, and the rest of them, and moduli. Well, I'm not a model per se. Actually, I wanted to be a model and then now I started teaching myself how to do photography. And then I just ended up liking photography and then the idea of me being a model just died. Yeah. Okay, so you're no longer posing for pictures? I do. I do, but I do it when I want. When you have something to push. I have a concept that I want to do or when I feel like I need to create this for some later use. Maybe, you know. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. So yes, but let's not forget the matter here. How do you manage to juggle all these things and still stay true to your art? Because it takes a lot to be busy during the day and all record during the day and be busy at night. It takes a lot of heart to do such a thing. Most of my job is online. As I say, I'm a social media manager so I do it during the day. Corporate events, it only comes once a week so I take an off from work. Yeah. And then when I'm going to the studio I go at night. Most of the times I record at night because none appear during the day the studio is occupied. So the only time you have to go back to the studio is record at night. You write at night because that is the time your thoughts are settled so you can be able to write. Is hip-hop a safe space for women? Because I'm told we are almost at equality. We are almost at gender equality. We still have a lot of work to do as a people, as a human race. But is hip-hop so far to you? Has it been good to you as a woman? Yes, considering the people I look up to if it has been good to them, why not us, he in Kenya? You've seen various women in Kenya also trying to find... Tell me these people that you look up to who want to get into your head. I admire the vibe in Saru. Let me tell you the truth. Saru is a beast. Yeah, I like Nshinshti. We agree. Saru is a beast. Unanimous. All right. Nshinshti. Nshinshti. I love it. Kaligraf Jones, the hardness in him. All right, all right. And you're a writer for real. You know how to describe each and every one of them. Each and every one of them has a word. Yeah. Okay? Nani kwa? Wakadinali? Yeah, the kind of, you know, the vibe they give of their songs. And the stories they tell for sure. The stories they tell. Nani kwa? It's very smooth in a really Hard way. Hard way, I guess. Okay, okay. Thank you very much for that one. Sushantu. So this is the one you are pushing. The, remind me. I keep forgetting the name of this freestyle. Wachadia. I have another one that's coming up. Another one that is coming up. Yes. And you are teasing. You keep teasing them on Aiji. Before we get back to the music, what is in store? In store is my personal blog. I launched it last month in December. And then I started working on it. So I started working on it. You started with the content? Yes, I started with the entertainment. What should we look for there? Apu kwenye? Mostly my blog, mostly it's going to, you see the way artists also say how I want to place platform Apu kwenye. Talked about. I think now this will give them a platform. All right. Yeah. Starting with you. Starting with you. Okay, we are about to get a performance from you supported by Mr. DJ Aelia Paivi. But before that, please share with them your social media handles. You can find me on Instagram at Salima Muigay, Facebook Salima Muigay and Twitter as well. Salima underscore Muigay. Okay, are you related to the president? No. But I get that question alone. I am not related to the president. Okay. But maybe kuna, there is a trail of. Go, if you go back, back it is. Yes. Okay, she will look up for project and Alba mamakit kamaishwa. Yes, there is Alba mamawaking on. Still very fresh. But there is an Alba mamawaking on. There is a freestyle that is coming up. Yes. A freestyle that is coming up. So subscribe Palikotika YouTube channel which is. At Salima Muigay. Salima Muigay on YouTube as well and every other important place that you need to find. We have come to the end of this particular one. Ms. Salima and it's about that time that you performed for us. Thank you. Supported by Mr. DJ Aelia. The floor is mine. The floor is yours. And then we'll be back tomorrow of people Thursday. If you happen to love a music keep requesting it so we can have it on rotation. Happy week when you hip-hop Thursday and Y254 in general. Salima Muigay aka Kuki and DJ Aelia. Take it away.