 Ooh All right, so let me get my comments all ready second reply to people space quick So I already have it all set up and ready to go Alrighty so We're doing our version two of the stream today Some news we took out because Cedar Point just literally came in and conquered the live stream with a out-of-nowhere Announcement at 2 p.m. Tomorrow So we're gonna talk a lot about Cedar Point in this stream We're gonna talk about Hyperion and we're gonna talk about Magic Mountain and then we'll talk about other your Topics if you guys suggest them at the end of this stream So feel free Near the end if you comment now we are going to lose track of it and forget about it So we'll let you know in the comment a subject you want us to talk about at the end But yeah, we'll get right into it. So as many of you already know Hyperion had a fatal accident. It wasn't The ride manufacturers fault. It was a human air and I guess park training air if I were to make take a guess here It looks like a maintenance worker was struck by the train while trying to fetch someone's belongings And they didn't shut the ride off when doing so or wait till the end of the day to grab the item like they do at other parks it's very unfortunate and Hopefully You know energy landia Updates its policies if that's an issue. There isn't much information released on it But what do you guys think about this whole incident? I mean I feel like intimate plague with incidents even if it's not their fault Yeah, I mean There's not much to say about this it was human error, but still it adds a tab on to intimate From all the downtime and from all the issues they've experienced with their other rides Apparently sounds not working I don't know Like that to me. Yeah, let me see. Oh Yeah, it's not for me That's strange. I've never had this from before Oh, wait, never mind. I had my okay. No, I hear it. Okay. Okay. Okay. People are saying it's working Sorry someone said Sam wasn't working and I'm like, oh my god. This is why we are leaving Google Hangouts We're just working on a new program. It takes a long time because we're programming it ourselves So be patient with us on that. Yeah, sorry keep going co-bust That was it Anyone else have anything to say about this unfortunate incidents I mean, I've always just emphasized that you can't take loose articles on rides Parks need to provide lockers and beginning to ride. What's it there free or not? That's not the issue, but Parks, it's I I don't know. This is just all too common these days. I was saying before the stream just today woman was hit by a phone on Batman the dark night at 6 p.m. England and For what I heard she had to be taken to the hospital paramedics showed up right away And it's just and and never ending problem that for some reason just seems to me more prevalent this year And I think parks need to be just more strict with their policies and rainforests when people are in line You cannot take phones on to this ride and they'll listen Will they though? I mean like well, we've seen a big like Huge backlash with parks taking a strong stance on this from the enthusiast community. Yeah I think this comes down to also a maintenance thing because we were just talking on a recent stream about The increasing number of accidents or at least so it seems it seems to be increasing And a lot of them we discussed seem to be related to either lazy maintenance or lack of maintenance Or you know just certain getting comfortable with with rides and the way that they're being treated And so I think that this was also a matter that could have been easily avoided If they were a little bit more attentive to what was going on with the ride before worrying about any kind of maintenance person Or park personnel getting anywhere near that ride Like it's easy take it from someone who's worked at a theme park to get really comfortable around these kind of things And it feels very everyday, but you kind of forget it's like getting behind the wheel of a car You forget that you know, this is a several ton vehicle moving at high speeds So it's easy to just get complacent And I think that was probably a big factor in this is someone just going like oh I'll just go out and grab it and not really paying attention to what was happening around them Yeah, I think you just hit it on the dot there. I Mean, I know at Wonderland if I lose my cell phone on Leviathan Let's say they make you fill out a form and you hand that form into customer service at the front gate and You they will not look for that item until the end of the day when the rides locked out And I feel like that should be the case at every park. I mean, it sucks I've definitely complained in the past when one of my friends lost their cell phone on Leviathan and you know at the time I was like, why can't you just go get it right as a spoiled? Yeah, like person right at the time, but now you see stuff like this and it's like oh that makes so much more sense Like taking a step back Totally agree with that I mean even if it's not at the end of the day if they have you know every three hours or something They can go do a sweep because it's also a safety thing for the ride Like you don't want you know cell phones and lanyards and things hanging out on the track getting caught in wheels What not so maybe like have it be at set time But I definitely don't think that it should be like any little thing Somebody's risking their life going out there to do a sweep of the ride For sure. Yeah, I mean parks could also have something where they have people on standby if the ride goes down for mechanical reasons or whatever They lock out the ride and they go out and look for stuff And maybe someone who lost their phone on the ride in the morning can get it back faster. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's a great idea Does anyone else have anything to add to this subject? No, not really Alright six flags magic mountain so a lot of people are confused because six flags Everywhere sent out this and it was funny to watch the dailies were sent out because people from certain home parks We're like, oh my god, my home park is getting a massive coaster. I mean, I would have done the same thing I'm not insulting anyone But and then we discovered slowly that this is the wording for every park But it's definitely some bold statements in those teasers Considering it's gonna be the biggest event of the year the biggest announcement event of the year And I think I think one of them even said that it's gonna outdo any announcements already done for the year which is a pretty bold statement and I actually Huh, I don't think six flags is gonna be able to beat some of those other coasters that are being announced except for maybe magic Mountain I actually have a lot I have really high hopes for magic mountain and I don't want to get I don't want to get over heights but I'm really I'm getting really excited for magic Mountain and And you know some of the teasers are starting to suggest that maybe it's a dueling coaster or it's gonna have two launches but you know It's definitely being referenced that there's two of something And you know this little Vakoma coaster has popped up a lot on the internet lately And I don't really see it Personally, I don't think this is that massive news that magic mountain needs and this doesn't screen magic mountain coaster to me What do you guys think? Not at all Magic Mountain doesn't really They have the family coasters they need I guess we can say they don't this to me looks like a family coaster That's why I'm saying that I Don't think they need something like this. They need a more thrilling attraction to add on what about you guys Yeah, I don't think magic mountains a park that could call this like the biggest craziest announcement ever like it just seems like it wouldn't You know we talked a lot about this as well in recent streams about over hyping things and whatever and it seems like they would really be over hyping it if this was the case What about you fluffy I'm still on the arm CT Rex bandwagon Really? Are those even ready for production yet? I thought they were still they might not be but I don't know For all we know they could be We could just because I mean remember the six flags we're talking about they put up everything late So by the time that they actually start putting it up Maybe we could start seeing more of this or maybe it's maybe it's just like Maybe like So you guys the skywarp track they could possibly use that instead Um, but who knows but I think that the the model that you're showing here looks very interesting And I feel like that could as a Vekoma it could be an interesting choice um But I feel like it really is a bold statement that six flags is putting out there About how they are saying that this is the gonna be the biggest announcement of 2019 I don't I don't think it's gonna it really is I don't even think that it's gonna outshine Steel curtain. I don't think it's gonna outshine any of this year fair ones except of course a few of them But yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a family coaster at all of course because they have four of those But you know we won't really find out until August 30th And I'm very interested to see what it really is going to be because there's a lot of theories coming out Right six likes is so good at hiding like their investments. I feel bad for Cedar Fair a I'm a part of it, but What do you think Sally? um I've thought about this a lot actually and I mean the Vekomas do make sense Just I don't see how they be in the market is the biggest attraction either Um That SNS rumor has been thrown out a lot maybe dueling SNS launch coasters You never know I mean sick eyes had a prop pretty positive relationship with them and seeing SNS is starting to branch out with rights Like steel curtain I I definitely think that's possibility, but I guess we'll just have to wait till August 30th I think this is the part that's been baffling me the most Yeah, it's gonna be something big I just have a feeling the world's fastest tallest and longest steeple dive coaster Matthew don't you mean kerfuffled? pardon Don't you mean kerfuffled? Whatever. Yes. Yes kerfuffled. All right Do we have anything else to add on about this coaster at Magical Chase confirmed? Oh my goodness. Oh God there's gonna be memes popping up now All right, it's time for a Brendan rant just like yesterday. I'm about to attack someone I Have a bone to pick with the media. I am honestly so sick of the media now I'm like at my wit's end. I hate them I hate everything they report on in terms of amusement parks and the fact that they had the audacity to release this Very Uninformative article that literally just points out that yes accidents do happen in amusement parks Just like they happen in everyone's backyards Just like they happen like literally like moving to get out of bed. Yes Injuries and accidents are gonna happen and I mean accidents like spraining your ankle That's literally what this article is about. There's an article about a guy that got his leg stuck in a Um gate on like a roller coaster and he got slightly like he had a broken bone and I mean And this is what I like about Wonderland and Ontario. So in Ontario, we have this like law for amusement park parks where the guest is actually just as responsible for their safety as the theme park is They have these signs posted at the exit of every ride I don't know if this is the same in the States, but a guest must abide by all rules and safety precautions of a ride And they are responsible and can actually face fines and jail time if they fail to meet their end as well And that's what I like about Ontario because we wouldn't have stuff like this This is like a really dumb news article and I'm so sick of them I'd like you see the ones like trains stuck on chain lift for five minutes. Oh my god, like I'm just so over it. Are you guys sick of these articles or what? Yeah, kind of The GP are just gonna do what the GP do you can't really stop them from doing anything But this is like approaching slander. I know it's like People have this view of theme parks. Like yes, they have extreme rides People still view them as dangerous because accidents have happened in the past and people target them for no reason And it comes over to the news and I don't know I'll take Sun of Beast for an example Son of Beast probably mostly closed down because of an issue it had in 2003 when they In turn remove the loop and change the trains after it stalled. I Have to read this one person's train gets stuck on chain lift for 10 seconds. I almost died on a roller coaster story time Perfectly News is though it's everything is sensationalist and everything is you know fear-mongering and pick your topic That's the way the news is going to report on it from politics to grocery stores to you know, the latest diet fad and like how Going on this diet is going to kill you like it's just ridiculous. I agree with you that the media has gotten out of hand in that way but hopefully With things like this like there's reasons why if a park doesn't have to report on a certain type of injury or a certain type of incident There's reasons why and just because the park didn't report it like publicly and say oh Hey, by the way, we had a train stop on a lift hill today. Put it in the news Please doesn't mean that the news doesn't have the right to report it if they want to so like nobody's hiding anything It's all about the way they're presenting it and the way they're presenting this story is really sketchy Have you ever been injured at an amusement park? No, it's like My view is if you get your foot stuck in a gate or in one of the loading gates Or you jump a fence to go and get your hat and you get hurt That's your problem You were doing something stupid and you got bitten you asked for it. Oh Like I Mean language But that's a good point like if you went to a zoo and you stuck your hand in the cage and an animal bit it That's not the animals fault. That's your fault for not like being safe and following the rules and doing what you're supposed to do But I wrote a roller coaster and it broke my back or something and that's a right fault Mm-hmm Does anybody else have anything to add on these horrible news stories? Literally? Yeah Yeah, I One of my favorite statistics to tell people is it's true. You are more likely to be struck by lightning than dying roller coaster It's it's a true. I'm not kidding. It's a true statistic and I once medicated when I told him I Like struck up a conversation. I told him I was enthusiast and he's like, oh, how are you not dead by now? Like dude It's the reason rides Are run in amusement parks is because they're safe. They would not be running if they were not safe For the most part, of course, there are always those Rides like sandblaster Daytona beach which are like not inspected for three years, but those are few and far between um The gp and the media just don't understand this and it's it's really concerning And it can kind of be connected to other things on media like jason said just blowing everything out of proportion And I just really wish they all the reporters would just become enthusiasts and learn Yeah I like somebody's uh comment here Have you or a loved one been injured in an amusement park? And did amusement injuries today Okay, I'm just gonna drop like a couple to guide like quick real quick google search Chances of dying on a roller coaster chances of being seriously injured on a roller coaster one in 24 million Chances of dying on a roller coaster about one in 750 million and that's according to the international association of amusement parks and attractions Uh now on the contrary chances of dying in a car accident one in 645 Oh So you get in a car every day. I don't want to hear about you know twisting your ankle on a roller coaster Yeah, mm-hmm All right Also the fact that some people don't want their injuries out there like if I rolled my ankle in a park like I wouldn't tell them it's my problem And then someone's gonna notice it and like put it all over the news Mm-hmm for sure All right, the cake this is where it gets interesting A last minute Announcement from cedar point. Um, so they're giving a free ticket To pass holders to use on a family friend or whoever they want to bring into the 2018 season Um, I it's oh, so it's any season pass holder and platinum pass holder that will receive this free ticket Now I normally wouldn't like discuss something like this, but it's interesting because this almost seems like a A last minute like oh, no Something's not going right our attendance is like spiraling out of like Anywhere close to where we were predicting It's a very smart move though. I'll give them that Because they're gonna bring people into the park. They're gonna buy food They're gonna spend money and they're getting that the people into the park And that's the biggest thing that I think cedar fair needs to learn Six legs has a down pat cheap season passes cheap tickets And then increase some of the the costs in park And it'll balance out And I think cedar fair needs to learn that tactic and it looks like maybe they are learning that What do you guys think? Well, I can barely see the image All right. Yeah, I know it's super stretched. It's just a free ticket for all season pass holders Get back the visitors that left after steel vented the bomb Not gonna lie Like that that's what I see from it I mean cedar point has an interesting predicament in that they're not like a lot of other parks where they're Like they're really not close to many metropolitan areas So I can see this being a really smart way. Like you said brendan to draw in Extra traffic at a time when they haven't been having the traffic that they're looking for Um, I also agree that it seems like a bit of a last ditch way to do it Especially at this point in the season Uh, so I would like to see in future cedar point offering more incentives and offers to their season pass holders and platinum pass holders throughout the full season like right from the get go because I have to say as someone who like like I had a platinum pass last year Like I'm generally usually a season pass holder Um at a season pass this year And I feel like as the years have gone on I get less and less for my money with the season pass And that's not just because the prices are going up But you see perks being reduced So I can see how it's come to this point because if season pass holders, you know are themselves not coming as often because They're not getting as many discounts or you know, there's not as many Special offers for them, whether it's ert or whatever it may be Um, yeah, I can see how it's come to this But I hope that this is something they're learning from and that next year We see more being offered to season pass and platinum pass holders and that's across the chain I think at cedar point like I said they have a unique problem because of their location Um, and they're being you know the biggest park with the coolest rides will only get you so far Yeah Yeah Anyone thing else to add on to this? It's not too big news where they just wanted to touch on it slightly because I thought it was interesting I mean like this ticket if I had a parent that didn't necessarily want to pay I don't know how much it is like let's say it's 70 or 80 dollars to get in the front gate If I had a parent that I wanted to take with me because I couldn't drive or I couldn't get there This would be the way they would get in Mm-hmm If I was a cedar fair pass holder, I don't know like Canada's wonderland and I would be around there and I wanted to visit cedar point my parents were saying no no No, it's too expensive for me Now I can get them in Yeah, it's interesting because jasm touched on a bit I was looking at the price of my season pass for next season at wonderland And I'm literally shook at how much money I'm gonna have to pay It's it's like 400 dollars minimum For me to get my platinum pass with my food plan and my drink plan and I'm literally like Wow We're getting up to disney level pricing almost it's not quite there because 400 dollars is quite a distance away from a thousand something dollars, but It's Sorry It's like a thousand dollars, I think but you you can only go during certain times there's there's blackout periods for the past Oldies See that's what I don't like about Yeah, and I'm gonna be on oh, you know, I'm gonna say I'm gonna I have another random rent, but that's gonna be for another video It's about the food the food it's cedar fair this season Yeah, let's get into that another time Someone I just saw someone complain about the food in the the comments and I got triggered for a second I'm on your side. Don't worry. Okay. Let's move on. Okay. So the big news Cedar point out of nowhere. What's going on? We begin writing our next chapter tomorrow at 2 p.m Sharpen pencil So this Is not not a shock to me. In fact, I know what's going on or at least I like to think I know what's going on And I think amusement insiders a lot of other people too have been knowing what's about to go on And I think it's been all around us this entire time So tomorrow at 2 p.m Cedar point is going to make an announcement We'll touch on this first and then we'll get into the whole Chapter part and the writing and all that so My prediction for cedar point tomorrow is probably going to be a family attraction If it if it's not going to be an expansion Into the dinosaurs alive for families It's going to be a small family flat It's going to be a flat ride for thrill seekers and something else like canada's wonderland did last year It's going to be three small editions or medium-sized editions that make up a decent package That's my guess because cedar point needs to Invest heavily even when they're not getting a coaster And I think this is going to come up with a new themed area I think cedar point is going to start working on a new themed area And if I had to take a guess, I think the boardwalk is the area of focus It looks like cedar points really trying to work on that area and turn it into a new themed area And if it's not that it's a new themed area somewhere I think cedar point needs more theming because it is kind of a concrete jungle And I think that'll help. What do you guys think about what the announcement's about so far? Co-blessed Fluffy Yeah, it could be a new themed area Or Or because it's something like It could be related to like a new smaller pass what I was thinking but I'm trying I'm looking at cedar point cedar points website right now and Never mind. They have a pk pass. Okay. I was thinking that maybe they could be trying to get a pk pass if they didn't already have one Which they do But maybe maybe this is teasing at something a new themed area Maybe they they could just start doing they could possibly do another teaser for their 150th anniversary. Maybe And Or maybe they're just gonna like start thinking about what they're gonna do. I mean, obviously they they already are but I mean like they're gonna start, you know Trying to plan out their announcement stages kind of like how Uh, kind of like how a great adventure was playing their announcement for over for over a year now But Maybe Just maybe this is a kids area Um, which is what I'm hoping for is like an expansion for the kids area Um, or maybe it could be a dark ride or just who knows Because this is we really don't have anything to work with after this What about you jasm? Okay, I have theories So I would like to see this be tied into all of those Posters that we've been seeing throughout the different cedar fair parks that kind of tie them together um, and I think that Uh, I agree with that hunch that it could be something to do with the 150th anniversary coming up Because it's they're saying we begin to write our next chapter like nothing is happening right now Is what this sounds like to me so I could see this being them announcing what that transition into this new Phase of the park is going to look like And I know I've been saying this for a little while for wonderland and for a few other parks Um, but I could see all of these different things hinting at like a big overhaul in the theming department between these parks And that's what I would love to see and I would love to see them tied together a little bit more It would be really cool if they you know We're going to start adding in themed characters that weren't just like the licensed characters, you know snoopy and all of those that they use You know, I'm I'm confident that they will stay in the kids areas But I think as far as the overall theming of the park that we could see some really unique branding really unique theming really unique characters Um, and I'm hoping that this is the beginning of that just saying like hey We're doing a big overhaul our park is going to become much more immersive much more themed And here's what that's going to look like and so when we see those changes starting to happen Over the next couple of years. It's not going to be spoiling the surprise It's going to be you know them getting everyone excited and building up towards what the end result is going to be Um, aside from that if it's not that, you know, I'm with everybody else. It's probably some kind of Theme area. I agree with you brandon. I would love to see the boardwalk a little come a little bit more to life Um, yeah, but that would be my like ongoing theory about all of this because we've been seeing all these ride announcements But there's still not that much talk going on about what that was all hinting at What about you sully Um, what jazzy just brought up was a really good point that they're beginning to write their next chapter I didn't realize that um, that's interesting wording. Um, I've heard a bunch of rumors Uh, one of the interesting ones was a skyhawk um I I don't really know I mean, they are removing witches wheel. That's an inverting flat out the door So maybe they replace it with an inverting flat. Um, I feel like that'd be pretty interesting. Um I mean family expansion would make sense to replace the dinosaurs live I this one has me carefuffled as well, especially because it just came out of the blue But I think it's definitely going to be a small learn. Um, not saying they're just going to get a pre-k pass Well, they already have one just like a small like restaurant or something. They'll probably get a ride But I think they're definitely going to save up for next year and whatever gci or flyer, whatever they do Yeah, and they're not over hyping it either. No, not at all. Yeah, so I don't expect big Yeah, I don't expect big at all Oh I take it coblast is ready to talk Yeah, um They could be talking about a couple things if it's expanding areas of the park Like jasm said the boardwalk area. I could also see the shoot the rapids area get something Or maybe they're just changing something and dinosaurs alive If it's part of writing something for future stuff It could mean they're writing something along the storyline of the cedar field mining company Yeah I actually just thought of something dinosaurs alive was with the cedar fair chain for a decent amount of time 2012 right till now And that's almost like it was chapter one and now chapter two is hinting at what that island is going to host next Maybe I don't know family expansion Everyone's like boo There are four emojis and I have a feeling there's four because there's probably going to be like four attractions added Like you can't as wonderland does the same thing where they add multiple attractions That doesn't mean four big attractions means like four smaller attractions I don't know could be nothing But we like to overanalyze here If you didn't know that well then welcome to me's main yeah, I was about to say And the standing up pencil too. I don't know that screams skyhawk to me Well, I mean if you if we want to start talking about morse your point, um You know if you didn't uh know this already they finally gave us a 360 degree pov Yeah, um deal vengeance. All right. Let's move into um the storyline So um as jasem brought up a little earlier I definitely think and when I did my interview for um uconn striker Oh, I really have to get used to that name uh striker We kind of got the hint that the there's more to this storyline than meets the eye yet and carol winds will be a huge part of that Kind of like learning what the storyline has to do But there's some interesting ones that kind of like talk about the old boat ride the old steam ship that cedar point used to have And I mean, maybe that's one of them. Um, or maybe there's just like this really intense storyline that cedar fair is working on And that's part of the next chapter with cedar fair and maybe that's what this teaser is. Maybe this will be phase one um For the chapter The more I look at these teasers the more i'm like wow There was stuff right in front of our eyes that hinted at like even uconn striker The eagle that the rides theme to um But yeah, what do you guys think about this whole storyline and how like this teaser almost kind of hints at the storyline itself I think soli was right. I think we're having to see your fair cinematic universe. Oh, yeah Um, but no they're I they're developing a very Humongous storyline and I and in the end it's going to be absolutely amazing and uh and jaw-breaking to see how well and how much uh effort they put forth into this project and into this big theming And we and like before, you know, this was cedar fair like they weren't that much into theming But then enter this huge storyline in 2017 Or it it it could it could start in 2017 or 2018 and bam They just like went full force on theming and now we have this huge storyline Which will probably go on for years on end probably until at least 2020 And I hope that all parks can at least get some sort of Chance to enter into this um So basically I'll see your fair parks get a chance even michigan's adventure guys even michigan's adventure Can have a chance to enter um into the storyline so I mean, it's We don't have much info as it's just brand new but I hope once again, I do hope that all parks can get a chance Mm-hmm for sure anyone else have anything to say about the storyline that they have been teasing non-stop I mean, I don't think uconn striker and the new coper carowans are going to be the only coasters part of it Where they're coming it'll last probably for Maybe two to four years If not more Yeah I'm just going to stand by what I said on the previous slide that I think this could very well be tied to the Writing a new chapter like they're writing a story They're starting a new chapter in the park and I think cedar point maybe is just the first one That's going to announce what their part of this looks like Yeah, maybe um, maybe this was phase one and now they're going to go on to phase two With what they're now writing So maybe it's not maybe maybe it's not an actual announcement May or maybe it's not an actual announcement and maybe It's just like We're moving on to another part of This huge storyline. No, it's gonna be an announcement Okay. Well, you know what we all have theories here An announcement doesn't necessarily have to be a ride. No as we saw with the worlds fun I'm so Oh my god All right So do any of you want us to talk about a different subject at this point anything you want us to talk about as a team? While you're here instead of asking us questions because I feel like You guys have all asked us questions now that you want answered Uh submit questions or a conversation you want us to discuss Uh, I've I've seen carolins quite a bit during the stream So do you guys have anything to say about carolins and their coaster and granny smith or uh, no, what's her name? It's granny. Um Great just granny. I think can I say one thing about this before we move on? Yeah, um A few streams ago, I brought up that number 137 that we haven't really found the answer to yet And I want to bring it back up because I think it actually might make sense I think my theory might be true. Um, my theory was that um cedar point right I just said cedar point cedar fair Has I think 126 coasters in their chain right now My theory is that the next 11 coasters we see up until number 137 are going to be all tied into the storyline So and especially with the it seems like um carolins coaster, it's going to be part of that. Um, maybe uconn striker might tie in somehow too Um, so I I think I'm going to hold to that theory. Um, and let's see how it goes over the next few years and Who knows maybe a few years I'll look back at it. It's like, yeah, that was a pretty bold prediction, but Yeah So what do you guys think granny's big secret is? Uh, I think granny's big uh, or epic secret is that granny is really Brendan in disguise brand It's me and my drone Granny's name is becky The end clip will be me getting arrested from like the construction site Um, so that's where he goes every night, right the uconn trip was just actually me filming the teasers for carolins I don't want to talk about an awful pile Uh, anything else like does anyone else like I don't know. I think I don't see signs of a shed on the blueprints I mean there could be I don't know what the secret recipe could be. It's definitely they're over teasing it Uh, and not in a bad way, so I don't know I have a feeling carolins and can't just wonder like getting the same thing Because remember when I did my interviews at wonderland they kept hinting at carolins being a big part of wonderland steaming So I have a feeling the theming is the big part because we were told by the way For any of the canas wonderland fans in here zero theming was shown In the renderings, uh, they don't even from what I understand it could be wrong But based on what we're being told at the time of those renderings being made They didn't know the station look and they didn't know the theming We were told it's going to be so Beautiful and so massive and it's just going to look really nice It's going to be a very big picture area On everyone's going to be taking pictures apparently that's how nice it is And I feel like carolins is the same and maybe that's the epic recipe What's what's in the oven? It's the jojo roll Uh Do you think 42 and 50 are the speeds from granny's recipe? Oh, those are pretty low speeds if so, um I mean granny can't move too fast. Let's be honest Like 42 kilometers per hour 42 miles per hour Yeah, I'm guessing it's going to be in the 70s as well brice Well, if it's if it's like the blue fire trains, it's going to be in the 70s If it ends up being oh my god, I'm going to trigger all the carolins fans right now I'm not saying it is okay. I'm saying if it ends up being the spinning trains Then maybe it'll be like the 40 and 50s Another question is What kind of haunt attractions would you like at your parks? Like if you were to pick one haunt design or one haunt theme, what would yours be? This is a really hard question Anyone We're using a cold water ride for a haunted of attraction Yeah, that was minors revenge at wonderland. I was going to say that I miss minors revenge and I would pick that Or just be like Out here it looks a granny haunt theme Granny the maze yeah granny's dark secret My nearest theater fair park is two and a half hours away So I've I've been to haunt nor am I just a big haunt person in general. So I honestly have no idea James we did ask about the giga posters and all that and they were Trying to throw us off. That's what the giga references were You can see that in the interview actually on our youtube channel Siwa roll As far as the haunt question I want to see bill and ted stick around. I'm like a little bit mad I I don't know if this I haven't looked at the news in a while, but last I heard they were on their way out As of what was it last year? Yep So that's a bummer to me. So that would be my number one answers is run back bill and ted Uh, number two would be I know some parks I want to say definitely disney and I think not And maybe a couple others have done Winter themed haunt mazes and I just think that has like a really cool happy vibe to it And I'd like to see more of that So I know nods did Yeah, nods did one My favorite one. Oh, sorry go fluffy For cga I would I would say I would like demon reignite to stick around For quite some time Because on the on their haunt website It shows that demon reignite will unfortunately not be returning for another season Which is very unfortunate because I loved doing demon reignite It brought back all the old effects It brought in a brandy demon soundtrack and it even had the the demon himself Basically just sticking around it also had fire effects as well So that was pretty cool. Um, I just wish that you know that could just stay around for a few more seasons But unfortunately not Probably a money problem though Um Since your home park is can is wonderland I have two questions Would you rather have wild beast or mighty canadian mindbuster be rmc'd? and There's only one launch coaster in the park. Which kind of launch coaster would you like? Okay, so me personally I think mindbuster would be the better rmc and I I strongly I'm starting to think that it that's going to be the case because frontier canada is becoming a thing And they're going to want to finish it off with an rmc And then a launch coaster. I want a kind of like Maverick style Launch coaster elis. You know what I mean What about you? Can I play the other side of that argument? Yes? Okay, go I would love to see mindbuster stay of classic And I think they really need to bring it back to what it used to be change those First few bunny hills back to actual bunny hills and bring the airtime back to the ride And just have it be like a coney island style like real classic wooden coaster Um, and just like keep it at that status of like this is one of the original rides this You know, it will always be the mighty canadian mindbuster. Um, I would love to see The rmc treatment come to wild beast just because wild beast is desperate It's uh it's just a an unimpressive ride even when it's running in good shape and It's a fun ride. Don't get me wrong, but it's not A ride for the type of world-class park that wonderland is becoming and I think there is more room to play with um behind wild beast if they were to Reconfigure the employee area and where different warehouses and sheds are There would be a lot of room to really play with that ride and expand it and make it something cool and crazy So that's my reasoning, but I totally agree with you on the maverick style launch coaster spoil I see Brendan can I say something? Um, this this is a kind of off topic, but um, tony clark Just tweeted on twitter somebody asked him where the announcement is for cedar point and he said near the dip and dot stand Oh interesting That doesn't mean a lot, but I love how he trolls the I love him Keeping you tony if you're ever watching this. Yes So, uh, anyone know where their dip and dot stand is? I don't know but several sorry I'll get my drone out. I'm kidding. Um So I think that wild beast should be the one that's rmc Because mindbuster to me is actually rideable I wrote wild beast a few days ago and it was absolute garbage. I didn't like it Yeah, I could see that it could go either way I mean mindbuster takes a prime real estate too. So water park expansion cough cough They both need help, but like walking could definitely be worked around mindbuster as it stands I can totally relate to these wooden coasters. They both need help SOS That's what i'm buster wild beast is a lost cause um So apparently there's a dip and dot stand under um under raptor uh by the tunnel under millenium force near dragster and the railroad tracks and Yeah, apparently I missed a mindbuster You know the meme with the guy with the map on the wall and all of the strings connecting things I can see this being what's happening with the dip and dot stands right now Yeah, I think the dip and dots comment was totally just a troll Yeah, we know this mindbuster hate comment Never be so sure All right, I think that's that's pretty much it. Um any updates on the area near the water park It's one of them that was being built. It is just it's it's nothing's happening there anymore Giga dip and dots looks like they're flattening out and packing down the ground for a future expansion Well, they're done that now. So it's just sitting there now. No construction vehicles. No nothing Dorney, um Yeah, uh, they're hardcore teasing. Um, they uh, Mike fennel said or I think that's high performance his last name. He said, um something about coaster It's like coaster madness. I think that's the event on october 7th He teased an announcement then um To be to be honest Uh, he's commenting on every video That mentions a 2019 coaster for dorney and it's like seeing all those little teasers they had in that 5k video There's there's an ace logo on one of the screens, which it's an ace event coaster madness. Um And then there was a wooden coaster on one of the computer screens And there was a something it said dorney park 2019. Um, so I think There we might see a coaster next year That's totally going out on a limb, but that's a really good announcement. Yeah, I know Probably like last minute like planning or something like that But we're only seeing two seater fair coasters as of right now This year and could you do any parts like look at all these world-class announcements? Let's just whip one together Yeah, I mean I mean, especially if they're getting a gci. They're not that expensive. Um I mean usually like Around 10 million if not less Yeah, that that'd be just awesome for them and they really need one thunders hawk is in such bad shape So that I'd be so happy and I'd definitely go back there next year heartbeat So yeah, they they even commented on my youtube video for dorney park. I saw I saw Hardcore, yeah, right. Nothing. I like it. Well, it should be a restaurant Wait, uh, sully. Did you say that he's been doing it on pretty much every single, uh, yep Dorney post Yeah, because he's been doing it on Like youtube videos to like no not also also like twitter posts on instagram stuff as well I I think we might see something The long rumor gci Yeah Me So, uh, who uh, who told dorney that we filmed that video? I don't know Either that or they watching music insiders Although I will bring this up Or I don't know. Hold on. Wait. Hold on something big something big Six flies magic ground is announcing the 29th Oh All right, it just came to me He's psychic It's coming through email in five minutes everyone. Oh boy I mean I mean 29th. That's not it's only a day in advance, but anyways, um I think Shoot, um, I don't I don't know if we're supposed to we can bring this up, but uh, and why don't coaster studios videos on the dorney park one specifically That there was somebody in the video who said in 2019 dinosaurs alive is going to be rip And there was going to be a gci all for 2019 So far what we've been seeing could this be true Who said that? Well, I Dinosaurs alive is going away after this season. That's already been confirmed. They're doing basic knowledge. Yeah Yeah Yeah, so I mean beyond that who knows Just it's New coasters just do there, especially one that's ground up And not just relocated Yeah, it looks like parks bros came in here and confirmed your little uh, august 29th Oh, I'm so close Yeah, that's that's interesting, huh Park bros. I may or may not have lost my pain. Hold on. I I have a theory. I think it's be I think it's because Sorry fluffy, but this just came to me I think it's because carowinds is announcing on the 30th And maybe they want to take away from something from carowinds Maybe they want to beat them. I don't know It's just like this is like what happened with railblazer wonder woman last year Yeah, well, guess what six flags? Oh, don't go there. Don't go go there Wonder woman's back. They're both equally good. No Just because railblazer has rocks. It doesn't mean it's better Oh, uh, so uh park bros, uh, I may or may not have lost the pin already Oh My bad All right. I think I think that's it. I think we can wrap up the stream, right? Yeah, it sounds good. Yeah, awesome Thanks for joining us guys. Um This was a busy week and that's why we did it in two parts But yeah, thanks for joining and uh asking us questions. Have a good one guys Take care guys. See uh Everyone can see that I play legal