 Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners. Thanks to all of you, including Eric Holm, Carmine Bailey and Vince Power. Coming up on DTNS, Tim Stevens is here to explain why the Unreal Engine is in the new Mustang. Plus, is it the end for auto shows? And why the matter standard is just… it's got a disappointment. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, September 16th, 2022 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. From Upstate New York, I'm Tim Stevens. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chan. Tim, thank you for joining us today. It's good to have you, man. I'm really glad to be here. Well, I'm glad to have you alongside. Sarah Lane's out today. She'll be back on Monday, but let's start with a few tech things you should know. Uber discovered a security breach Thursday and has taken several of its internal communications and engineering systems offline. It's investigating the incident along with law enforcement. I'd like to say no customer information was affected. There's no evidence of that yet, but their investigation isn't done. An individual told the New York Times they breached Uber by using WhatsApp to contact an employee and convince that employee to log into a fake Uber site, which then used the entered credentials to log in immediately to the genuine Uber portal. The employee in question apparently authorized MFA. So when they logged into the fake site, the MFA got pushed, whether they authorized it right away or they got tired of it alerting them, it depends on who you ask. But they allowed the person in. So there was a second factor, but they socially engineered around it. Once in, the attacker found PowerShell scripts that an admin had created to automate logging into various sensitive network enclaves and used those to access multiple production systems, Slack management, Uber's endpoint detection and response portal, among others. The attacker may also have accessed Uber's AWS and Google Cloud accounts, as well as its bug bounty program, which has since been disabled. Intel first released its Pentium chips in 1993 in a seller on brand in 1998. Chips under those brands will still show up on low-end laptops often in models of Chromebook. Intel announced it's replacing the Pentium and the seller on brands, or maybe more accurately, it is deleting them. Processors that used to carry the name will now just be called Intel processors starting with the 2023 notebook product stack. For now, Intel will continue to use the core EVO and VPRO brands for its own processors. Hey, that's so silly. Calling your chip just Intel processor, that's like calling a daily tech news show, daily tech news show. Truth in advertising, right? Apple warns that there is an activation issue in iOS 16.0 that could prevent iMessage and FaceTime from working properly on new phones, like, you know, the brand new iPhone 14. Apple has patched the problem in iOS 16.0.1. A lot of folks are getting their new iPhones today, though, so if the new phone prompts you to install the new version 16.0.1 during setup, you'll probably be fine. If it doesn't, go update it right away. If you're still having problems, Apple has posted steps to take if the problem persists after installing the patch. Security company Vectra identified a risk in the way Microsoft Teams on the desktop stores authentication tokens. Apps built on the Electron framework for Windows, Mac, and Linux store the tokens unencrypted. That means if an attacker gets access to your network, it could use the credential to impersonate you on apps associated with teams like Outlook and Skype, two which are pretty common apps used for some pretty important business stuff. Microsoft said that it will consider addressing it in a future update as it would require a much bigger breach, i.e. network access, in order to be exploited. In other words, if you have a network breach, you probably got some bigger problems to worry about. Yeah, I'd still like them to patch it. I would too. And promise to patch it? Yeah. I get what they're saying, though. U.S. Senator Ron Wyden is raising the alarm again on the latitude that U.S. Custom and Border Protection agents have to access U.S. citizens' devices at the border. I mean, if you're not a U.S. citizen, they can do whatever they want, but they can kind of do whatever they want with U.S. citizens' devices as well. Border authorities are not required by law to get a warrant in order to access the content of any electronic device. The Washington Post reports that in a briefing with U.S. Congress, CBP said its officials access around 10,000 devices a year, which is a low percentage of the number of people crossing the border, to be honest. But it's a lot of devices. And they add data from those devices to a database. 2,700 CBP officers have access to that database. Current rules require a border agent to have at least a reasonable suspicion that a traveler is breaking a law or a threat to national security in order to copy data over to that database. I cross the border a lot. I'm lucky to say this never happened to me, but I do always make sure that all my devices have some charge because I know that if they don't turn on, that can cause some problems for you. Alright, if you're not subscribed to Stacey Higginbotham's Stacey on IOT, and you care at all about smart home stuff, go now. Subscribe to StaceyOnIOT.com. Her latest newsletter is called Five Ways Matter Will Disappoint Users at Launch. It's an excellent piece because it sets you up to understand that the promise of matter is not lost just because it's not all there at the beginning. She explains what will and will not be there. If you read it, you can get ahead of most of the complaints people are going to have after matter launches. A lot of people are going to be lobbing softball bombs at this thing. The short version though is that the Connectivity Standards Alliance is trying not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. And they're going to push out a 1.0 version of the standard that's more limited than what the promise of matter has been up until now. Here's the short version of what Stacey says. You're going to be able to turn light bulbs and smart plugs on and off real easy. That's going to work great. Everything else is where the problem comes in. First of all, some stuff is not included until a later version of matter. So video cameras, appliances, video doorbells, vacuums, robot vacuums, none of that stuff is going to be in version 1.0. That is not going to be part of matter. And of the stuff that will be included, your smart plugs and your light bulbs and such, matter is not going to support all the advanced features. So if you have a smart plug that does electricity monitoring, that's not going to be supported by matter. If you have some sophisticated recipes for mixing and matching, the garage door goes up when you come home and then the lights go on inside. That stuff's probably not going to work. Multiple brands of devices in a complex routine, probably not going to work. You're going to need an app a lot of the time. In fact, you're probably going to need the devices app for installation at this point too. And while you technically will be able to use matter on Google, Amazon, Apple or Samsung hubs, the features that will work across those platforms are going to be limited. If you want those platforms more advanced features, you're going to still need compatibility and stay all in the same universe for a while. Adding a light bulb or two should work great, but if you add a lot of them, you may also hit a limit of what it can handle. Now, none of these are permanent. This is not the way matter is designed to work. Matter is going to update to solve these problems over time. It's just going to be limited when it launches. It's capable of doing more. It just needs time. As an educated consumer, I know you and I out there understand that standards evolve. USB is more capable now than it was when it launched in 2001. So it doesn't surprise me that matter is going to be the same, but not all consumers are going to think that way. Tim, what do you think? Can matter survive what looks like might be a disappointing launch? Yeah, I definitely think it can. I've actually worked on a few standards of bodies over the years back in my software days, and I know that it's really difficult to get these things moving at all. So I do think it's important for them to get something to market and then to continue to evolve with the market, because otherwise they run the risk of having the market kind of just continue to run away without them. Frankly, I think that matter doesn't really have the kind of awareness within the general consumer base at this point that's going to disappoint that many people. Certainly for folks like us, we're going to be a little bit disappointed that it's not going to be amazing out of the box, but I think as long as expectations are being set and as long as they can continue to evolve and so that Amazon and ZigBee and everybody else are engaged in developing the standard, then yeah, I think this is a good thing. But absolutely, Stacy's piece is really fantastic. Everyone should read it if you're interested in this. And frankly, I think they should print this out and put it in the box of every matter device, because I think people should definitely have their expectations in the right place. Yeah, I think that's a great idea. It's a great point that there's going to be a lot of loud talk in a small area about the disappointment of matter. But the fact is that a lot of folks out there aren't going to realize what it is. I think the only danger they run is if people see the matter logo on a box and someone explains to them like, oh yeah, matter, that means it'll run on anything. It'll all interoperate. And then they get it home and they have a problem and it won't do a thing that they want. They may not trust that in the future as it does get better. But I'm with you. I don't think that's going to be fatal to it. I think you're going to have a lot of people writing very long Reddit threads about how disappointed they are with matter and that might be the worst fallout. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, apps will be updated. I have smart devices that their apps haven't been updated in years, so I'm not surprised too that this is going to take a while for everything to proliferate. Yeah. It may take a while. That may be the biggest downside is I want it now and it really may be five or more years before it really gets to the point where it delivers on all of its promises. Nick with a C in our chat room is pointing out Wi-Fi A sucked at launch. No one remembers Wi-Fi A. Everyone remembers 802.11 B, not 802.11 A, because 802.11 A didn't work. So yeah, this is not new. This is new and I don't think it's as bad as it sounds. But Thursday, Amazon announced a new feature for its smart devices called Customers Ask Alexa, where you can have brands answer your questions. That might sound bad. Like if I ask how to get a pet stain out, is it just going to be the Bissell vacuum manufacturer telling me use the Bissell vacuum manufacturer? It's not unlike crowdsourced answers that Amazon has provided since 2018. If you don't know, there's something called Alexa Answers. And in that one, users of Amazon add answers to other users' questions. It's crowdsourced. In this new Customers Ask Collection version, it's the brands themselves providing the answers. It's just a special way for brands to be able to see questions related to their products and offer answers. Brands that register with Amazon Brand Registry can see frequently asked customer questions and then provide answers. Brand answers still go through content moderation just like any crowdsourced answer would to make sure that there are viable answers that are useful. Answers are also attributed to the brand and the brands are not paid for providing answers. This is merely a way for them to service the customers. It's not at this point a revenue generating thing for Amazon or for the brands. Customers Ask Alexa will launch in October in a limited rollout. All eligible U.S. brands will get support later next year and then eventually it'll expand beyond that. Users will see responses in the Amazon search bar starting later this year and then it'll come to Echo Devices by the middle of next year. So, my first reaction when I saw this, Tim, was like, oh great we're going to get a bunch of useless answers telling me to buy a product but it sounds like maybe it won't work that way. Yeah, I think this could be helpful in the long run. You mentioned moderation. I'm glad that they're making that kind of front and center because when Alexa Answers launched, there were some definite breakdowns when they came down to moderation. There were a lot of very, very bogus answers that go through and some of them were even dangerous. So, I'm glad that'll be part of it. But honestly, I mean at this point if you watch any given DIY program on PBS or whatever else, there are always products being injected into all those explanations of how to do anything. So, I think people are pretty used to it at this point. It doesn't necessarily have to be a hostile thing. And from a brand standpoint, it actually could be really useful data for them to see what kind of questions and problems people are having. And I can even see this expanding into like how to put together your new table kind of thing where you're getting guidance from the manufacturer, something like that. So, I think there are some interesting applications here. I'm glad that for now it's not a paid thing, but I will be shocked if within six months Amazon doesn't flip the switch on that. Yeah, as it is set up right now, I will give them credit. This is the best of both worlds, right? If IKEA wants to let me be talked through assembling the Billy bookshelves, that's fantastic. That could be amazing. Or even with an Echo show, you know, give me some diagrams and help like that. Who is better able to tell you about their product than the maker of them? And manufacturers benefit from helping you get the most out of their product. So, they're invested in giving you good information. That said, Amazon is invested in selling you things. And yes, providing you great support through the Amazon Echo will probably have a halo effect of making you want to buy more things through Amazon. But Amazon would also like to sell you more things directly. And I can't imagine there won't be some change to this policy down the line that changes that. My only hope is that wouldn't devalue the answers. If the answers stay quality, I'm even okay with some money changing hands. But it makes it harder for those answers to stay quality once the money starts flowing around. Yeah, at that point it becomes whoever's got the deepest pockets will be providing the quote-unquote right answers, even if they're not the best ones. And really, you know, you may roll your eyes at that out there. But if Amazon does that, then the Echo won't be as valuable and people won't buy the Echo. And thankfully, this is a competitive marketplace. There are other, you know, there's Google Home. There's Siri. There's even, you know, Samsung, Bixby could make a comeback if Amazon got really bad, right? So there's pressure for them not to be bad is what I'm saying. Does that mean there's still hope for Cortana? I don't think so. I feel like Microsoft turned a corner on Cortana. And they're willing to sell you that to put in your product. So I guess in that respect, there might be more manufacturers take advantage of Cortana. But it feels more like it's an enterprise service. I'm still sad about that. At this point. Yeah. I know. I had high hopes for Cortana as well. It worked. It still does. Folks, we would like to hear what you would like us to talk about on the show. I would say a majority of our top stories at the top of the show were from our subreddit today. So thanks to everybody out there who are submitting those stories. You can join them, submit stories and vote at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. The Ford Mustang has been an automotive icon. It went into production in 1964. And we are about to see, in fact, Tim just saw the 2024 model that is 60 years later. You got a chance to see that model. There's some interesting tech going on in the new Mustang. For instance, why is it running the Unreal engine, Tim? It's actually pretty interesting the tech that they built into the dashboard. There are two displays, a 13.3 and 12.2, if I remember correctly, inch displays that are kind of integrated within a unified bezel. And in the middle display, kind of the infotainment display, which is tilted toward the driver that they kept saying is a fighter-influenced design, you can go through your vehicle settings and you get some visualizations that are a lot like you would get if you were going through sports and motorsport or Gran Turismo 789 or whatever. Whatever your adjusting suspension brakes, engine performance, those components within the car are highlighted with kind of a cool, rate-traced design. It looks really good, actually. High-res graphics inside of the center console are pretty cool. And then also on the gauge cluster behind the steering wheel, they've actually recreated the Foxbody Mustang gauge cluster in 3D. And you can project that onto the gauge cluster to make your fancy new Mustang look like a 1980s-era Mustang. And presumably, I would be shocked if they don't offer other gauge cluster packages for purchase down the road. But right now, anyway, there's Foxbody in there. So I think that's a pretty interesting application of this consumer-grade technology gaming software in a car. And it looks really, really good. I'm actually impressed with that. I had the compelling pitch to say the setup screen from Forza where you can pretend to own a race car can be in your actual car that is also kind of a race car. Yeah, absolutely. And it looks just as clean as it would on an Xbox or PlayStation. Yeah. Now, we talked recently on DTNS about the desirability of physical switches versus touchscreen controls. Sounds like some of those are going away. Yeah. Ford is keeping some of the major controls with physical buttons and knobs. There is still a volume knob, for example. But the HVAC controls for your temperature, your climate control modes, all of those have now been absorbed up into the touchscreen. There's no way to get to them through buttons. Ford said they did this to free up room in the center console. So there's a little cubby now below the display with wireless charging, which is nice. But if you want to adjust your heated seats, that kind of thing, you're going to have to go tap into a couple of menus to do so. This is commonplace. This is what everybody is doing. I still like buttons in a lot of places. And again, there are still a fair few buttons in the Mustang, but many fewer than there were in the sixth gen, in the last gen Mustang. Is there any voice control in this Mustang? Is it all console? There is a bit, yeah. It's fairly straightforward. It's nothing really advanced, like a Google Assistant kind of thing, like Volvo has in their cars, for example. But you can do navigation through voice and a few basic controls too. Now, I see you hearing us talk about the Unreal engine in the dash, says, when do I get to steer my car with a game pad? Well, you could park your car with a joystick, apparently. Why does the parking brake, the handbrake, look like a big joystick? Well, so the handbrake is inspired by drift culture, basically. And so what they wanted to do was to give the car a modern handbrake. And pretty much every handbrake on a modern car these days is digital. You push a button, you pull a lever, and the computer says, OK, engage the parking brake. It's not like the old ones we pulled up and it ratcheted into place, and you pull the button. And so Ford wanted to bring a modern parking brake to the Mustang, but they still wanted you to be able to pull the handbrake and get the car sideways if you wanted to. And so they created this thing that's basically like a joystick shaped like a drift style handbrake. When you go into race mode and you pull on that thing, it locks the rear wheels and will kick the car sideways, letting you slide it around and make big smoky burnouts, basically. So they wanted to give you drift power in a silly-looking joystick on the center console, basically, is what that is. So, I mean, you tell me, as someone who's covered cars for a long time, how do they adjust to that line of, like, this is an illegal thing that you can now do with this feature? It's actually very surprising to me that they would put this feature in this car that exists only for the purpose of getting the car sideways. There's no other reason to have this. You can option that into the car. If you don't get it, then you'll just get a button to engage the parking brake on a normal car, or like you would on a normal car. And so I was surprised. Yeah, there's really no legal way to use that. So it would only be really on a racetrack. But then again, the last generation Mustang had a line lock function, which is designed explicitly to help you do big smoky burnouts. And that was in the last generation. So they do have a history of doing this kind of thing. Well, when you take your new 2024 Mustang out on your private ranch and do smoky burnouts, let us know how it goes. Now, among all this tech, you have not mentioned that this is an EV because it's not. This is a gasoline-powered car. Right, and that's actually a little bit surprising. We had fully expected this to be at least a plug-in hybrid. The rumor or word on the street was that it was going to be some evolution of the Explorer's plug-in hybrid technology or something else that would basically turn it into an all-wheel-drive car with an electric front axle and a traditional gasoline-powered rear axle, a combination of gas power and battery power. But just a few days before the unveiling, the word kind of broke that that was not going to be the case. And so what we actually have here is a pretty minor mechanical evolution of the old Mustang. Jim Farley, CEO of Ford, says they're doing this because they think that as everyone else goes to electrification, that the Mustang might be the only gas-powered sports car left in the markets. I think that's maybe being a bit optimistic for them either running into some unforeseen engineering challenges or more likely them simply deciding that because they have the Mach-E Mustang, which is fully electric, that they've kind of got their green cred in on that side so they don't really have to worry about that so much on the Mustang anymore. I don't know for sure, but that's just me speculating. And the Mach-E is very different than the traditional Mustang, so maybe they don't want to have to try to compete and merge those two lines, would that make sense? Yeah, it's entirely possible that there's still a lot of debate raging whether the Mach-E is an actual Mustang and I don't think we really need to get into that. But yeah, certainly the Mach-E is a crossover SUV versus the Mustang, which is a two-door sports coupe, so probably the more that they keep them differentiated in the product portfolio, probably the better for them. And for Star Trek fans, we're saying Mach, M-A-C-H-E, not Mach-E, not the rebellion in the Badlands. You saw the new Mustang as part of the North American International Auto Show, right? Yeah, which is interesting because that show has been evolving a lot. The North American Auto Show used to be in January, it was right after CES, it was really struggling for years because CES was kind of drinking its proverbial milkshake as it were with more and more auto companies choosing to go to Vegas instead of Detroit. So it had been a few years. It moved to the summertime to avoid the CES bump and then COVID happened, which was not great for the North American International Auto Show. So this is really the first big North American auto show we've had in a couple of years and it was not as big as it used to be. There was a lot of empty space on the show floor, which was kind of sad to see and just a lot of manufacturers chose not to be there. It's similar to what we've seen at CES and E3 in the past, but it was a pretty dramatic example of the shifting ties for the auto show right now. Yeah, it is similar in that you see car companies doing their own announcements now, the way that Apple and Sony and Microsoft do their own announcements, Samsung. It has not led to the total demise of CES. It certainly has put E3 on the brink. We'll see if it makes it back. Do you think this is it for auto shows? Are they irrelevant now? I wouldn't say they're irrelevant, but they're struggling. Auto shows traditionally have served three audiences and those three have kind of been like the legs on a wooden stool. On one hand, there's the media. There's new car launches. So car companies will unveil their new whatever at auto shows and we'll write about it, and that's good for the industry. They also serve the consumers. Unlike your average CES or E3, auto shows are typically open to the public. So whoever wants to buy a new car can go to these auto shows and check those out too. And then also they serve the industry. So if you want to partner with a new supplier for some sensory car, you go to an auto show and you sign that deal. Now, though, consumers are largely shopping and they need to go to an auto show anymore. And because, like you mentioned, manufacturers are following the Apple Q and doing their own events off-site, that also diminishes the impact of these shows for the media. So that means that really they're only serving the industry and the industry can just have those meetings on Zoom. So it is unfortunate, but the auto show's importance is whining for sure. You would think that the ability to get in a car would make it more resilient to that, but it would be interesting to see. People are showing a willingness to buy a car on-site on-scene, much more so than we've ever seen before. I bought a car in 2020 from Carvana that was delivered from Atlanta, Georgia to my house. I never went to a dealer. There you go. Tuesday this week, LA police were called out to high school on what turned out to be a hoax, but while treating it seriously and investigating, they put up crime scene tape to deter bystanders. TV cameras on the other side of the crime tape. So they weren't too close to any possible incident. Again, nothing happened. However, a serve robotics delivery robot which makes deliveries for Uber Eats rolled right on up to the crime scene tape. One of the camera operators standing there, watched it hesitating and flashing red lights and eventually raised the tape for it. I think it took pity on it and let the robot roll right on into the crime scene right past the cops going along its merry way. Autonomous robots are almost always supervised by humans. Any of these sidewalk robots usually have somebody over viewing them. They can over view multiple robots at once, but the idea is to intervene if there's a problem. Serve has a policy that their robot should not cross police tape, which is why the robot autonomously paused. However, the spokesperson for Serve Robotics told Gizmodo that the robot's human supervisor mistakenly thought it was being waved through and so gave the robot the go ahead. My guess is, this is not what they've said, is that when that camera person raised up the tape, the supervisor, maybe they were distracted, maybe not, just looked at that and said, oh, I guess they're letting it through. Okay, great. And let it roll on through. So, Tim, we were talking earlier, usually the debate on autonomous cars is about how they would deal with vague situations like this. In this case it was the human that didn't deal very well with it. Yeah, this is very different than the typical trolley problem that we're always debating. This is a case, yeah, where the human operator clicked a button and said, yeah, go ahead and it went right through, but this really deals with the question of contextual cues which human beings are very good at reading and which robots are really not so good. So, we're talking about autonomous cars, how often have you been at an intersection waiting to turn, you see a pedestrian, you make eye contact with them, the pedestrian assumes you see them, they go ahead or maybe you use your hand to wave somebody to go through the intersection, that kind of thing. Robots can't do this and they by default can't really understand what you mean. So, that's why some of the companies fall back to human operators and when the human operator screws up, yeah, then things get kind of comical and satirical. This reads like kind of a jokey episode of Black Mirror to me where like the delivery drone rolls through and you know, scoops up the murder weapon secretly and attaches it to the bottom and then continues rolling on with like tire tracks of blood behind it or something like that. That's all I could picture in my head. Thankfully, that's not what happened, but I could absolutely see a Black Mirror episode like that, for sure. Alright, let's check out the mail bag. Rick wrote us an email called Does Tech Gatekeep Labels? Good morning, DTNS team. First, I'd like to say thank you for the concise and understandable proof of work explainer. It helped a lot on a topic I was definitely knowledgeable on. Thank you, Rick. I'm glad you appreciated that. It got a lot of good feedback on that episode. Second, I finally started seeing articles comparing the Apple Watch Ultra to some of Garmin's offerings in earnest. Some of those reviews make some sort of remark that the Garmin isn't actually a true smartwatch, but rather a fitness tracker. I feel like this occasionally happens with developing tech segments. Do you think this is simply a result of a market leader establishing an ideal of what a product category is and that sticking, regardless of how muddied the waters get for a while unconsciously or not, is it a result of marketing? Is it even a bad thing? These are great questions, Rick. Tim, what do you think? Yeah, they are great questions. I remember when the iPhone first dropped, there was debate about whether the iPhone was a smartphone because it couldn't do a lot of things that you could do on Windows Mobile or whatever. To me, it's ridiculous that because Garmin is a fitness-focused device therefore it isn't a quote-unquote smart phone. You can do a lot of incredibly smart things on a modern Garmin device. So yeah, I think it's an interesting thing, but ultimately I think it's up to the owners of these devices to kind of tune that stuff out, frankly. If the device does what you need to do, if it's smart for you, if it's improving your quality of life, which Garmin devices would do for a lot of folks, then who cares what the label is personally? That's what I think. I think what happens is the reviewers are trying to be fair, and so they may not be trying to throw Garmin under the bus so much as saying, well, Garmin isn't meant to be a smartwatch. It is meant to focus on fitness, whereas the Apple is meant to be a full smartwatch. So there are things that the Garmin doesn't do because it never needed to do those, to capture its market. I think that happens. And it's less gatekeeping and more like trying to say, well, these are coming from different areas. Expectation is setting that kind of thing. Well, Tim Stevens, thank you so much for being with us today. I know you've got a new sub-stack out there. I've been enjoying it quite a bit. Tell folks more about that. Thank you, yeah. I'm just kind of stretching my legs a little bit on the writing side and trying out some new things. So yeah, check out my sub-stack, timstevens.substack.com talking about everything from electric cars to management techniques and that kind of thing. And then always on Twitter, Tim, underscore Stevens. You can find me there too. And thanks to our brand new boss Sergio. Just started backing us on Patreon. This could be you on Monday. But today it's Sergio. Sergio getting all the love for backing us on Patreon. We're always very appreciative of our long-standing backers and our new backers alike. So thank you, Sergio, for being along for the ride. Welcome to the club. And stick around Sergio and all patrons for the extended show Good Day Internet. We'll be talking more with Tim about stuff. 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