 Govno amodu marufin to limit security checks since four piece and intervene in acre do loo aye that he was crisis par fasten on details presiden Borla Tinobu. I am Borla Oba and this is plus politics. Govno amodu marufin to rea Vadamama state called for an emergency security meeting over Tuesday's night clash between the military and the police officers in the state. The conflict between the security personnel has begun along target junction. Yola north local government are resulting in exchange of fire and brutal attacks on the police facility. Addresing newsmen after the meeting in the government house Yola. Govno amodu marufin to rea said an investigation into the matter was ongoing with a view to ensuring peace and justice. We said the meeting has resolved the conflict and that the security chiefs are vowed to work in synergy for the best interest of Vadamama and Nigeria. Govno amodu marufin to rea confirmed that both the military and the police lost one officer each during the night clash calling for restraint to avoid recurrence. Govno amodu marufin to rea said an investigation into the matter was ongoing with a view to ensuring peace and justice to avoid recurrence to avoid recurrence to avoid recurrence to avoid recurrence. These are men that have attended strategic command courses in the virus arrangement and you can see they are both, we both all shared these discussions together and they've even given us a more helpful information. The men of the Nigerian armed forces and the police were just coming out of the state high command strategic security meeting and all the issues involving the two security command have been discussed extensively and all of them have been resolved in the spirit of our country, of our state and our people and ensuring that our general concern should be the peace and security of the state. Joining us to look at these issues is the lawyer Buram Atsacharyarima based in Yola, Vadamama State and also a journalist Padu Finis also from Vadamama State. Gentlemen, welcome to Plus Politics. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. How would you want to summarize the unfortunate incident that has happened in Yola which has taken the lives of two service officers? Well, good evening once again. It is highly condemnable because the two officers, gun and officers that lost their lives in this unfortunate incident that happened would have been, the incident would have been avoided because I think there was no understanding between the two sister agencies and I think they as law enforcement agencies ought to show an utmost and high level of maturity and tolerance in the performance of their duty. So I think they need both the police and the military need a thorough reform of their officers because if things like this will happen between the two law enforcement agencies who are charged with the protection of life and property of the citizen and the nation at large. I don't see where we the citizens will be free to or be secured and such incident happened in an environment where there are houses where people were going on with their normal activities. So I think it is highly unfortunate and condemnable. Just as the executive governor said state states the military and the police have lodged an investigation into the matter and we want to be sure that yes such things will not occur because there are a lot of incidents like this that happened in the past. Talking about legals, talking about said like tarabat, some years back. So I don't see any reason where the military and the police will be fighting or be having even an exchange of words because they need to respect each other. They need to respect one another. They need to conduct their duties cordially and in accordance with the law. So I think this age long feeling of disaffection and rancor sometimes from my own point maybe as a result of a fight for supremacy. I am ahead. I am this and that. They should all know that they are protecting the lives and properties of Nigerian citizens. They should put Nigeria first and their own personal feeling. So I really condemn this unfortunate incident. The officers have lost their lives. They have family who are looking up to them. So where are they now? It's highly unfortunate and maybe they are so rest in peace. What has been the general mood of the people locally? The morning after the incident occurred I was on my way to the office. Actually I first heard about it from the taxee man which I took to the office. He said in Hausa that these people couldn't allow them to sleep. That they were face all over, gunshot everywhere. And you know the current situation in our country right now? Just in the night for you to wake up and see and start hearing gunshots. Definitely you won't be able to sleep. So the states actually people were really scared at that night. And when the incident actually cleared off people, right now people have engaged in their activities. And the executive governor have assured everyone of safety that everyone should go on with his daily activities. So right now the mood in Ademawa state actually is the moment. It's like for those of you who live in the middle and upper class area or areas of the state capital you were not particularly disturbed. But it seems that for the taxee man, for the cab driver to be intimidating you with the incident the following morning the event happened maybe in the lower class area of Yola. Is that right? Actually the incidents occurred somewhere in the target junction which is in the middle of the state capital. And then from the news I got that the police now went for a retaliation the military, excuse me, went for a retaliation at the police headquarters just a few kilometers away from the government house. So the police headquarters is in the heart of the state capital. So I was just wondering why you never had gunshots you never had a disturbed slumber that it took the taxee man the following morning to brief you about what had happened. Yes sir, the distance from where I stay at Yola town is a bit far from where the incident occurred. Ademawa state capital is the very big state capital. So the people that reside within the influence of the state capital where the police headquarters is located and the police headquarters and also the police barracks. But what's the mood now? What's the mood now? Are the reassurances of the governor and the leaders of the security agencies and the deputy governors are those reassurances are really making people to be comfortable and going about their businesses as usual? Yes, you know Ademawa state Yola in particular it's a place where we enjoy peace. Ademawa state is a land of peace where you hardly had such things happening you hardly had constructs. So because of what happened of course people are startled but we are really sure and we have faith in the state government and we have faith in the service chiefs that they will look into this matter and such will not occur and we have faith when you have faith in the government when you have faith in the institution lay it down I don't see any reason for you to be scared again. Because it's a toss between the two sister agencies it's not a fight between a bandit group which the police or the army it's something that can be resolved amicably and we are sure that it will be resolved. So everybody in Ademawa right now is enjoying the peace we've had before and we are ready we are rest assured the message from the executive governor is excellent that Ademawa state being a land of peace will continue to enjoy that peace and we have faith in the service chiefs as well as the police that they are going to resolve this issue amicably to elevate one another so we don't want to hear this we don't want to pray for such to happen again it's really unfortunate and condemnable to be honest with you that is the prayer of everybody who are lost of course but we still have to talk to somebody like you we still have to find a way of communicating to the majority of the residents of Viola that things are now normal and maybe some women have been scared by either witnessing it or the reportage should now know that normalcy has been restored and they have no cause for fear am I right? Yes sir I believe and the media houses have done their best in enlightening the people the masses because I saw it on the news the media houses and the radio houses the TV and the radio houses have enlightened the masses in the states about to continue with their normal activities and they even passed the message of the state government and for peace to continue to reign in other malls that everyone should go back to normal activity that such has been resolved and what the army and the police have launched an investigation into the matter so I don't see any reason where I just hope that they will do beyond the so-called enquiry and get to talk to the rank and file because most times these things usually get ignited by the egotistic disposition of the rank and file Exactly Exactly because sometimes such incidents normally if you see the incidents that occur prior to this in some states like Lagos and Abuja some got ignited by as a result of maybe the police in the line of duty at checkpoints blocked the roads the incidents that happened in April 3rd in 2022 the Lagos where the policemen blocked the road it was a checkpoint and the military were going they were passing by so in the batch of that the military had to stop to ease to make way for easy movement of their convoy so maybe one way or the other it led to an argument and then the police shot the military man and from there the military retaliated and life were lost and such really really should be barista as such the most disturbing part of this for somebody like me is that these enquiries we never get to see these enquiries resolve resolve some very fundamental issues who in particular was lacking good judgment enough to trigger it who first studied it because we once had an incident I think about a decade or so ago in Lagos there are some military personnel who were involved in jeans smuggling from Benner Republic went to Benner were coming into Lagos and were stopped by policemen on duty on their batch they refused to stop they were actually in Mufti nothing uniform and because the policemen presumed that they were they know they were conventional smugglers shot at one of them and the following day they mobilized went to the local police station killed a GCO killed a number of policemen I think it's about time I think it's about time and the authorities both military and indeed the civilian leadership of the country I think it's about time we made them realize that we are now in a democracy and you know it's not only a democracy there are fries on the rule of law what do you think about that okay I think the government actually and not only the government the law enforcement agencies ought to discipline their officers when such thing happen because I think when you see such happening there is always two sides of it the military will want to tell their own story to support their officers while the police at one end will want to say a different thing to support their own officers nobody wants to put the blame on himself to say hey such occurred because I started this and I started that and we don't even want to know who started the issue definitely because on the line of duty or a high sense of maturity a high sense of what we call responsibility to conduct your duty the best of you know in a high sense of sweetness the military let's talk about the military right now sometimes they may pass a checkpoint a police checkpoint what are they expected to do identify yourself definitely the police are in the line of duty you are supposed to identify yourself so this and this person and that unity between the officers and the law enforcement agency I don't see any reason where the police will want to harass a military man passing by and also the police wear a military okay he is your brother you are both law enforcement agencies why not take it down without raising your voice sometimes it may have been provoked by way of maybe this person they will say this person insulted me on this and I am a military man why would a police officer assault me so what I want right now is the service chiefs actually to look into this and make sure they deal with this in the line of what we call the rule of law they should court martial whoever is at fault okay that is where we wrap it up for the first segment fortunately definitely they need to look into this and this should explain the words military man we really have to wrap it up at this juncture thank you very much for the contribution we do appreciate it we go on a short break when we come back we continue with the program