 So you're in your third season with the Colts, right? Things not going as planned, of course. Right. You're such a natural leader. How much more do you put on yourself when there's a lot to do? Yeah, definitely stepping up more vocally for sure. You know, when times are needed. Obviously, like, you know, obviously times when things aren't going well or little things like that, I'm just finding the right moment to, you know, voice my opinion and, you know, step up and lead. You know, I've grew in that aspect. I started off more of a, you know, lead by example type of deal. But over the years, I've got more comfortable with, you know, just stepping up and, you know, saying my piece, just because I've noticed, obviously, like, you know, when I say something, guys really, you know, take it to heart, you know what I mean? And really listen to, you know, what I have to say. So. What you were saying after that loss to the JET, I mean, DeFoe, I've never heard you swear before. You were cursing. Yeah, no, it was, it was just embarrassing, you know what I mean, on all accounts. Yeah, I mean, I was, I was pissed. You know, I was pissed at my performance. Everybody's performance really, you know what I mean? From top to bottom, like I said, I really meant that not one person had a great game. So when something like that happens, how does one go as a leader in the locker room and turn it around? Because it can be turned around. Yeah, definitely. I mean, we've been in positions like this before. I mean, we have the right guys in the locker room to turn things around when things get tough. We have the right guys to point at themselves and look in the mirror and say, what do I, what can I do to be better to help the team, you know, and not point fingers? You know, when Gus came in, just talking about it being a servant leader, you know what I mean? Everybody can be a servant leader and, you know, help, help not only help themselves, but help each other, the man alongside of you. And, you know, that's what the guy's been doing. Be positive. Let's shout out some of those leaders. Who are the leaders in the locker room? Like I'm assuming Shaquille Leonard, one of them? Yeah, Shaq, you know, you got Kenny, Gilly, Grover Stewart, you know, Zaire, Franklin, you know, obviously that's on the defensive side really. And then you got guys like, you know, obviously Matt Ryan, you got Q, you got Ryan Kelly, you got Pitt, you got JT, you know, we have a lot of guys that can lead in this locker room. All the guys feed off of that energy because it's all authentic, you know what I mean? Everybody's themselves. Nobody's trying to be somebody else or not, you know what I mean? Everybody knows their role and they embrace it. Shaquille Leonard, how much is he missed right now? I mean, he's missed a lot, you know what I'm saying? I mean, especially on an emotional standpoint, you know, part of the game, you know, he's a big emotional leader that we have. He still brings the juice each and every day when he comes in, coming to work, you know, get the guys going. He does everything that he can, you know, whether it's watching film to help guys that are on the field and when he's not, you know, helping them see tendencies and picking up little things, even on the sideline. He's a, I mean, we'll talk about just a leader, you know, and a football guy. I mean, he's your guy. I met Jonathan Taylor. He was so composed and like matured beyond his years. Do you think he's the best running back and can he be in 2022? I believe so, yes. I mean, he's got it all, you know, size, speed. He can catch up the backfield. I mean, he can make a cut and then, you know, take it 60, 70, whatever you needed to do. You know, he can run outside, inside the tackle. I mean, he's got it all. He's a complete back. And we've seen it, you know, last year, obviously. And you know, I know the offense is going to get things going. And I mean, he's going to make things happen and take the lead by storm. What's your relationship with Colts fans in Indianapolis? No, yeah, I love them. You know, this has been awesome since day one, you know, embracing me after the trade and everything. And also, I mean, just, you know, like around town, you know, going around town and everything. And also, even in my own neighborhood, you know, raising a family, being able to, you know, just raise my family, take my boys to the parks and little things like that. It's been great. How often do you get back to Hawaii? Because it's a far cry from India. Yeah, I mean, I usually try to go back every year with a fan, but this off season, for sure, we're going to make a trip out there. You never surfed or anything, did you? No, not a big surfer. More fishing, spear fishing. Some body surfing, but not stand up. I tried. I, too big for that. I can't even imagine. I would never buy. You're trying to get players to think about their money. The players company, I think it's very cool. It's a partnership of you and a lot of the other NFL players, and I was wondering if you could just give me like your best finance tip. Yeah, you know, honestly, just, just being smart with your money. I mean, I've been like that since day one. You know what I mean? You know, obviously not just blowing everything that I get, you know, check by check, let me check by check. And I got a great financial advisor that's been helping me along the way. You know, and one of his key tips was one wife, one house, one car. Keep his tips off. Keep his tips off. Yeah, you know what I mean? And you know, just being smart with your investments, knowing what you're investing in, you know, to obviously help you in the long run. Who are you unique in that you played in a Super Bowl and that you lost a Super Bowl? So I'm curious, how often do you think about that Super Bowl loss? No, yeah, I think about that all the time, honestly. How often? Like, what's all the time? Almost, I mean, damn near every day. Gold is a Super Bowl, you know what I mean? A world championship and I was so close, obviously with the Niners, my last year there. And, you know, just to get a taste of it, and you know, to come short, it's definitely haunting. You know what I mean? I have a certain play that I always go through my mind. It's that third and 15 play that's Tyree Hill. Oh! First and I, we run an exit game, and I come around the corner and Pat's just retreating, retreating, and I hit him as soon as he gets, let's the ball go. You know, I got him on the ground, I look up, and it's a completed pass, and they, you know, they end up converting on their drive and scoring, and obviously, you know, they gained all the momentum, you know, that they needed. And, you know, if we, I mean, who knows, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I make that play, you know, who knows what the, you know, it would have been fourth and forever, they would have punted, you know, we could have maybe went down and scored again, and so it's all. Did it change you as a player? That one's like? Definitely, you know, just, just like I said, I mean, as a player, that's all you dream of, you know what I mean? I was living the dream. I was, you know, like, was it growing up as a kid? You know, imagining myself in the Super Bowl and, you know, having a decent game, and, you know, obviously our teams winning, and then all of a sudden that one play happens. I do have a good game. Let's not, come on, let's have a hand on him. You said your old team is in the news as usual. The focus is always in the news. The team rallies around Jimmy Garoppolo. Why is he that guy? Was it about him? Yeah, I mean, I mean, Jimmy, I mean, he's just a, he's a lot of big locker room guy. You know what I'm saying? He gets along with everybody. And it's just his style of leadership. I mean, he takes it by, you know, he takes the room by storm. I mean, you know, I remember the first time, you know, Jimmy's first start, you know, you know, Jimmy's always been, you know, a cool dude, you know, complex everything. And then I just remember him gathering the team up on his first start, you know, my, I think it was my third year in the league and, you know, just something, you know, he just turned switch and everybody was like, oh, you know what I mean? You're like, okay. Yeah, well, what's the switch? What do you mean? No, he just, I don't know. It was just like, he just, you know, a different person. Just the competitor side of Jimmy came out, you know what I mean? And he just, he just, everybody was looking around like, okay, like this is what we needed. You know what I'm saying? Like we can get it, we can get behind this guy. You know what I'm saying? And he just, just the way he demanded the room, you know, how confident he was, you know, it's infectious. When you're confident like that going out there, you know, you got the guys around you confident, you know, knowing that, you know, yeah, today's gonna be the day we dominate. You know what I'm saying? And so he just got that it, you know, that leadership and he got that it factor. You know, when it comes to leadership and leading a team at the quarterback position. I gotta tell you, I've never root, and I don't know that I'll root for anything all year, as much as I'm rooting for you to absolutely crush Patrick Wilhelms this weekend. I appreciate it. I guess you can say, you know, kind of a little bit of payback, I guess, you know what I'm saying? But it's a great opportunity for our team as well. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's counting us out. Obviously after, especially after last week's loss, it's a home opener, you know what I mean? And you know, guys are gonna be pumped, you know, to be playing at home in week three. And you know, it's just a great opportunity for us to really, you know, to show everybody that, you know, that we're not out of it.