 Welcome to JSA TV live the newsroom for telecom and data center professionals I'm Barb Mitchell coming to today live from the floor of data cloud global Congress beautiful Monaco Absolutely beautiful joining me as Jeff barber VP of global data centers for bloom energy Great to be here. Yeah, we see each other in the nicest of places don't Hawaii Monaco. Yeah Exciting to to see you. How's the show that you've been busy, right? You were swamped you were in Ireland before here Leads me to a question, you know Why you're up you're spending a bit of time here. Are you seeing new opportunities new focus on the market? absolutely seeing Incredible demands primarily for information and education on bloom, but there's power issues all over all over the world But Europe specifically Just spent a ton of time in Ireland speaking with customers speaking with the government with the regulatory bodies Yeah, bloom is is definitely seeing an uptick in in demand. We're we're installed in Italy today. So we have the European Union Everything's done all certifications are are complete or almost complete. Yeah, it's been busy And it came directly here from from Ireland to Monaco Yeah, so busy and and you're involved with Some talks around sustainability, I know you're an author in the next edition of greener data So we're we're looking forward to hearing about that But you know, we talk about power shortages and the solution that that bloom can bring to the table for that The you know, one of the next questions around that is okay. Well, what about sustainability and can you speak to that? Yeah, absolutely on this is Obviously a softball question when you're working for for bloom bloom is Sustainability right so we are on-site power generation through micro grids On day one just deploying the system is typically 25 30 percent lower carbon footprint than a than a utility So that's a great advantage. We also today enable carbon capture So you could be zero carbon on day one with bloom. We don't combust anything So there's no particulates right no socks or knocks makes things much easier from a permitting perspective And as we know the the tenants and the developers are now very much paying attention to ESG metrics So we get them way ahead of the game on day one. Yeah, and I mean, that's It's a good point so much of what we talk about is around how do we measure success for this, you know And what are some of the ways we can we can do this? What are some of the actual Actionable steps people can take I know that in our industry a lot of the data center providers are thinking about that and you know One of the things I know that you think about is is recycle your recycling program. So can you speak to that? Yeah, I can yeah as I mentioned you day one were much lower carbon So that helps with the with the metrics with the ESG metrics the bloom boxes are over 96% recyclable These are when we reclaim fuel cells either for service or end of life Those fuel cells are are reused as actual actual new product So one of the unique things about the product of there there are no precious metals or rare earth metals in the device There's nothing molten is this is where a lot of our intellectual property is we're able to to deliver Tens of megawatts of power to the facility with no rare earth metals. Nothing nothing toxic coming out of the box Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. In fact, we just released our 2022 so the look back at 2022 our sustainability report Probably 400 pages of metrics if anyone's interested it's on our website. No shortage of metrics Yeah, I've been trying I've been trying to get through the whole thing, but it's no shortage of metrics That's for sure. Yeah, and I also understand you're up for an award So some the work that you're being done is being recognized and tell us about that we'll be there tonight We'll be massive. I mean when I was notified of of the the potential award I thought to myself. I mean we that really is validation of our legitimacy in the data center world These are all the biggest players Bloom is now deploying tens of megawatts with with hyperscalers with with developers It's it's an incredible honor just to be nominated again recognized as the perfect solution for data center specifically So I'm excited for tonight. I'm excited too. Got got the got the new tux and everything ready to go Just because of sizing issues it had to get had to be a new tux. Yes. Well, we're gonna blame And And so I knew one of your you know the other benefits I don't want to miss bringing this up is just sort of time to deployment time to power For your customers and and talk about that as a differentiator. Yeah, absolutely You know as we know all throughout the world There's issues with transmission. There's issues with generation from a centralized grid Bloom is distributed. Bloom is on site. These are actual devices You know, we have manufacturing in Delaware and Fremont, California We don't have the lead times of a centralized grid which many times are being quoted as four or five six sometimes ten years for appropriate transmission and substation fixtures, so it's Yeah, we can accelerate we can accelerate your facility coming online by literally years in most markets, right? So important with the with the pace that our industry is moving But also the pace that people want to adopt more sustainable solutions, you know Absolutely, and you know, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention the The increase in densities and workloads with ML AI becoming more prevalent Developers are looking for ways to boost the per-rack densities Bloom is the perfect solution for that with with or without the utility But if the utility happens to be there we can supplement that existing power and get your get your per-rack rates Up there for the the GPU workloads the AI and ML workloads. Yeah coming so prevalent So is there anything that you can you know sort of give us a peek it under the curtain of what's next in the short term? You know, you know the next sort of 12 months out Anything we should be watching for from bloom, you know, I think obviously Green hydrogen is a huge push for bloom. I mean aside from the power generation We're the world's most efficient electrolyzer as well as a whole dedicated line of business to that that's that's really coming up You know bloom is essentially hydrogen fuel cells today So we're looking forward to when the day when there's green hydrogen. That's distributable, you know Either either blended in which most countries are talking about right now You know, we can take over 20% of a hydrogen blend today with no modification But the the device is future-proof when the wind green hydrogens available It is a very simple procedure for us to to upgrade that same box to to pure hydrogen in which case The only output is water vapor at that point. So true carbon-free It's it'll be exciting and I would expect to see a continuation of a Densities and efficiencies, you know today. We're at 55 kilowatts per per device. I would expect to see that going up Yeah, it's very very good time to be a bloom. Yeah, sure sounds like it Yeah, well, and it's always a pleasure to speak with you for for those of our viewers who may want to find you Maybe at the show and and say hi and connect Where can they find you first of all but also second of all for those that aren't here where can they connect with you? Yeah, well as far as at the show, you'll find me hiding in a corner from now Okay, it's been back-to-back meetings for for a couple of days now Obviously bloom energy comm you can find me on LinkedIn Jeff barber like like you said We have a tremendous amount of resources on the bloom website as I mentioned the sustainability report is a very valuable document as well Good light read good light read. Yeah, good light read. Yes, absolutely. All right. Thank you so much Thank you Barb. Always a pleasure to speak with you. Yeah. Yeah, and thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV Coming to you live today from Data Cloud Global Congress in Monaco until next time. Bye. Bye