 We need Patricia to send us something on a regular basis. Yeah. Patricia's a hit. We should. And then we need Vijay Raaz to come on for an interview and have Patricia like. I think it'd be fun to have stupid babies make us a Coffee with Quran episode and we have to answer the questions. I agree. It's Coffee with Quran. I just know we need more stupid babies. Love Patricia. Patricia. Thanks. Hey, welcome back. Putipati, putipati. Hey, welcome back to our Stupid Reactions. I'm Jacob. I'm Jacob. What was that? He goes on. He. He. He. She. Motherfuck. I don't think that says that. I wish. It does in my mind. And the tattoo I have on my scrotum. Someone's got it. On their scrotum? Guaranteed. I promise. People tattoo eyeballs. That makes sense. And they pierce their penis. I guarantee they tat their balls. Well, that's that's called a Prince William. Or Harry. Prince. It is. It is. And I got him. I think it does he? Yeah. Son of a bitch. I haven't seen it. I just know he has it. Wow. Oh, wow. They were doing a movie review. I don't know. That has nothing to do with the movie. Thank goodness. There's nothing to do with it. Prince William. Oh, and anyway. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. It's the 2013 film. Hindi film. Kaipoche. Which we know about Kaipoche. Yes. In terms of the actual festival, right? Yeah. We've seen. I mean, that was the first time we. I kind of want to play it. No joke. Of course. It's competition. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. It's a sports drama. 2013 directed by Abhishek Kapoor. Correct. And partially written by Abhishek Kapoor. And then it's music by our Dost Amitravedi. Yep. And then starring just a few. Just a few names. Just a few people. Just a few people you've seen in the things all over the place. The late grade Sushant. Yep. Rajkumar Rao. Amit. Say his last name for me. Amit Sad. And then Amrita Puri. Correct. And then there's a few other supporting characters. Asif Basara. Yes. Who I understand. He was the kid's dad, right? Yeah. He was kid's dad. And I do believe, correct me if I'm wrong everybody, but I do believe he passed away last year, 2020. Yeah. He was on, we saw him on a couple of things. Yeah. He looked familiar. He was on Family Man. He passed? Yeah. 2020. So I said. I do believe. Yeah. And then a few other supporting characters as well. We'll get into all of that. But 100 cents for all of you who haven't watched it. Please go watch it. Come back. We saw it on Netflix here in the United States. So if you haven't watched it, go watch it. Come back. Rick, your initial thoughts please. Yeah. They don't be spoiled. We're a paragraph. Oh boy. Yep. I'm excited. Can a movie somehow combine the buddy film happiness and sweetness of Zindagi Namaligi Deborah, which is the Deborah film with the emotional depth, moral importance and artistic excellence of a Bombay? The answer in my opinion is yes. Movie is Kaipoche. The movie is itself Ali, whereas most buddy films hit to their expected onsite. Kaipoche hits us on the offside and scores a massive six in the process. Nice. Making us, you like that? Making us care about these guys and this kid playing cricket while simultaneously making us stare right in the face of the pure insanity and deniably sinful evil that is the murder of another person in the name of your God is either an act of justifiable vengeance or righteousness. It's extraordinarily rare for a film to be both a buddy film and an important trauma. Kaipoche is just that. So you hated it. Loved it. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Sorry, I was confused. I was so shocked. There's so much I have to say about it. You're confused. So much I have to say about it on so many levels. Yeah. That that main thing giving us a buddy film and a really gripping drama simultaneously. And this just I loved it. I did as well. It was a we're having just done a text to the super family. I was like, holy shit. Exactly. I was not expecting. Not expecting. Because when we've seen, I think that we've seen a song and I think we've seen the trailer and it's Shusant's basically introduction, right? Yep. This is his breakthrough. And Amit as well. They were very early on in their careers. Yeah. And so I thought it was going to be almost like a rom-com. I thought it was going to be Deborah. That's what I thought. Yeah. And so. And it was at the beginning. It was. And it even kind of kept those vibes. But man, did it smack you in the face multiple times. And it also did a masterful job, I feel like in weaving the real things that happened, which I hate myself for not knowing about like the earthquake that killed almost 20,000 people. I know. And then it shows you how much we just, that was probably a single day headline here in the U.S. And then it just went away. 20,000 people. Yeah. How? Like there's a massive North rage quake that killed what? Maybe a hundred? It didn't kill a lot. It was property damage that was destruction. And it was psychological. It was big. It was a massive quake. It was a massive quake here and a massive story. Yeah. I don't even know how many the earthquake in San Francisco, they've had a thousand, but a couple of big ones, right? It was nothing like what happened. 20,000 would not have been the number, right? No, no, no. And I know a lot of it has to do with like the structures everybody has. Of course. And you know, people get crushed and all that kind of awful stuff. But like not knowing about that. And then there was a few other things, right? The train burning. Train burning, yes. And the riots that ensued, which I think we've seen in a few films. We have seen that depicted and obviously we've seen a lot of other stories that depict the tensions that happened between Muslims and Hindus in different regions. The fact that they were able to weave all this into a fictional story, right? Yeah. And but make it seamless. Yes. Right when everything happened, it comes up with dates. So I'm like, right, why would they, right? Something's about to happen. It's so specific, yeah. So Indians obviously it's like, if September 11th popped up. Exactly. It's 8.30 in the morning, popped up, right? Yeah. December 7th, 1941, you're like, okay, you know exactly what's about to happen. Yeah. I did not. You kind of smacked me in the face. Me too. Multiple times, man. This, I loved this film. There's one tiny group I have one. Ah. In the end, we'll get to it. Okay. But I've liked parts of the end and then it's, it's just a personal face. But no, I love this film. I think this film is something you could show to American, one of those films. Should probably. Show it to an American and they would like it. They don't have to see anything else. This is not one, this is going to show like, okay, they have great actors. They have great stories and they have really well made. Really well made films. And I think can't say enough about it. Introduce somebody via this film. Yeah. It's not even too long. It's been two hours long. And so it's, it's so accessible. Kind of like honey or these other films that we've, we've tried to introduce Americans to. I think this one is right up there. Like another one that pops into my head is Rossi. Yeah. That's another really accessible pink is really bad love. Those are really accessible. 100%. This one though. And first of all, not just the originality of the story and the way that they weave these things together, but we can just go on and on about things like I was so impressed for a movie that really builds itself as a buddy film. Yeah. The direction and cinematography are so spectacular. Sometimes there are moments of lighting, like just the moment where Ali rolls the marble. It's coming down a beam of sunshine on the floor. And then there's a soft light that's highlighting Shashant's eyes that is just enough to let you know that was definitively intentional, but not so bright as to draw attention to itself. Yeah. They got a fr... It was almost like this movie was like providentially kissed because there's the moment when he gets up on the train and they've got a fricking rainbow behind them. I mean, there's just so many things about this that work, including and most especially being carried by all three equally strong actors that are just not one of them. It was just so... It was so fun to watch them banter, joke, play around and then fight and legitimately have pissed off. It was like watching a beautiful acting exercise with three strong solid desks. We've seen quite a few of Shushant's now and obviously we've seen a ton of Rajkumar. Right. And a little bit of Amit. Right. Very little. I want to get more into him. All of them were amazing and probably especially these... I'd go back and forth between this one and the military one of Shushant's best performance. I know. This one was so complex as character. Yeah. And I thought he played the fun friend, the slacking kid so well. And then when like there was these deep emotional moments that they didn't skip a beat. Not at all. Like at all. Yeah. Directed well. Written well. He killed this role. Yeah. It was so good. I think as far as comparatively what we've seen, you can't underestimate how hard it is to be a brand new actor and do that well. I can see why there was so much excitement about this young, beautiful young man with such beautiful screen presence, such emotional availability. And the three of them working together. For me, as much as I love that one, the name is escaping the military one that has Manaj. Yes. Which by the way... So you may have noticed that Raj Kumar started acting because of Manaj. Manaj Bajpe is his inspiration. I read that about Raj Kumar Rao. But yeah, for me this is my favorite thing we've seen of him. It pissed me off again that... Especially the way they ended. Well, yeah. It just makes you so... Once again, if you haven't seen it, go watch it. What I thought was going to happen, I could feel it coming. Especially when we got the opening point of Raj Kumar going to pick him up from prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I wasn't exactly sure. But when we got to the tensions, I thought, okay, I have a feeling he kills Ali's dad. And that's what I thought was going to happen. Yeah, that's what I thought too. Or even worse, maybe he's going to kill Ali. So when he goes and he pulls the gun, I thought, okay, great, Ali's about to die in Shashant's arms. And then I realized, plot twist, didn't see that coming. And that was really the original story in the script. I think that's the best option because, number one, it's the least predictable. And number two, it's the most powerful in terms of talking about the insanity of the kind of event that transpired where it's just bloodthirst and vengeance and revenge. Yeah. This is the result of that. What happens is nobody wins and the innocent die. Yes. Shashant did so, so well in this. It was, you can, yeah. For almost a debut, I do believe, right? It says introducing. So if he did the smallest stuff before this, I don't know. But yeah, he, they all did so well. So well. Like, there was so many moments where they were so good together and the fights you 100% believed. And I believed that Sushant, even though he comes across from what we know of him and his other rights, a very sweet, sweet guy, right? Yeah. But he came across as, I believed him as the slacker kid that all he cared about was a cricket and didn't care about anybody else but himself. Like, it was a whole different side of him that we saw at that very opening sequence when he gets mad and he breaks the guy's headlight and windshield. I thought, damn it, if we'd have seen him stay around, he could have played some really intimidating bad guys, man. The depth and the, what's the word? It's not depth. Intensity? No, not intensity either. It's the scope of his capacity as an actor and what he can play from varying aspects. There's a particular word and it's not dynamic, it's not depth, it's the diversity. Diversity, yeah. He has, I don't think he scratched the surface in terms of the diversity and I think he could have been in the same conversations and probably was for those who knew him closely and paid attention to his career early on, would have been in the same conversations as the Vicky Cushalls and the Shahid Kapoor and the Nawazidans. Because when I mentioned Shahid, sometimes you might be surprised by that, but if you haven't seen Header, he doesn't need to do another movie to show you that that guy has the capacity to do pretty much anything. Even if he didn't like Kabir Singh. He was killed in Kabir Singh. So yeah, I totally agree. And Soso's out of use of the way at the end so you just get even more sick. I think each time, because we didn't see if some of his still after he passed. Correct. We just got to know the guy. I think we saw a couple of trailers. Yeah. We saw MS Doni trailer of course. Yeah. One we still haven't seen yet of his, but I'd be very interested in watching. But yeah, every single time it's ended, but even more now, especially with the performance he gave in this, I was just so upset. I know. All I could think of while I was watching him toward the end, especially when you see the character in the end, what happens to him. And it's like, he's not here. It just reminded me of you want, anybody who thinks life is fair is not lived long enough. And just there's a lot of folks that aren't around that you wish were and a lot of people that were, you wish weren't. Yeah. To underscore the fairness as it were. But the beauty is that he has a legacy, even though it's short, that should still be watched. Not comparing him acting wise, but in the same way that we still talk about James Dean. Yeah. People should still continue to talk 50 years from now. He's led you. Same thing. He's led you. He was good with somebody who died at 20 years old. His work shouldn't be forgotten. Hopefully he never will be, but yeah, he's so good, but equally as good. Because I can't tell whose performance I like, because they all had such strong moments. They were equally as good. Rajkumar Rao, obviously, I think is one of the best actors. Just around. I think he's so good and he's so versatile in what he can do, because he brings such an innocence. Everything has an innocence. His normal demeanor is innocence. But we've seen, like in gangs, we've seen in other things, he can bring the intensity. He can bring the weirdness like in Ludo. Yes. He could do comedy. Well, and it works in the movie. What was the movie we saw where he plays the guy who's the quote-unquote the terrorist and we're seeing it from his vantage point? I didn't like the retelling of the Daniel Pearl story. It started with an O. Yeah, it's the Daniel Pearl story. But the beautiful thing about what he can do with those portrayals is that he doesn't judge characters and gives you, he always, like most great actors, he puts himself into the shoes of the character. He had such great chemistry with Amrita Puri. Yes. I thought they had totally worked so well with each other. Her strength and him being kind of timid. Yeah. I thought their love scene was actually really nice. I did too. I thought they did that really well. I also loved the reveal. I loved the writing and how Shashan's character found out. When he just goes to use his phone in the peak. It's a beautiful, the climax of the direction and the writing to bring us this climax that brought pretty much every element of the story to a head, including, here they are in the middle of this, save this family. There's violence in the streets. People are getting shot and cut. And in the middle of that comes this really personal moment of you son of a bitch. You had sex with my sister behind my back. Yeah, that's just so good. Yeah, but yeah, he had so many great moments obviously there at the end. But like when Sushan's character stole the money to pay for the house and how mad he got. Yes. But he didn't like, he's such a good actor. So he's not like showing you. Not at all. He's so mad. He was being mad. He was just being, you could tell he was so frustrated with his friend that he loves because he loves his friend. But he just, he's so pissed off in that moment. Yes. He brought out the rage and he brought out the emotion and he did that. So he always does that. He is, I so wish we could get to talk to him one day because I think he is one of the best actors in the world. I agree. I think he's in the conversation for me with Manoj Nawal. Absolutely. Pankaj. Absolutely. He's in that conversation because he's shown it with his diversity and obviously his acting talent. He's, I think he's a phenomenal actor. And also Ahmet, who we've seen the least amount of. So good. He's great. I would love to see a lot more of him. Surprised me, especially at the end. Oh yeah. We talked about that because my, I, I always wish stuff ended on stronger notes, right? And so I thought it would be much better just pull back from him just shooting. I know, you want everybody to time you, right? Yeah. But so they went back and they did the whole cricket thing. Then I wanted it to end after his emotional moment, just looking at Amrita, right when he looked at her and he just staring to her and he just broke down. I said, that's an incredible moment for him right there. Agreed. He did great. And so I was like, just in there and I just, I don't need to know that kid became a cricket player. I don't. I get it. I get other people like happy endings. I don't like the, you know, him seeing him come out of the, the prison in the beginning and then tying it all together to retelling the story. It's just not my favorite kind of thing because it kind of spoils some stuff. I'm like, okay, something's going to happen to him. Right. I don't want to know that. Right. I just want to, I want the story to come out. That's my one big gripe with it, even though I will still would have been fine with it at the end. If they would have ended on a stronger note. I just, you know, you remember, he's remembering Sushant in the end and I'd get it. Yeah. I like that. So it doesn't bother me. But yeah, I thought that was an incredibly strong moment for him. That entire end sequence, you can, you can, I mean, it's not justified, but you can see why he's so enraged. Of course. Obviously parents were just burned. That's the thing I loved about that. Right. Because yeah, because like I wrote in my, I paragraph the fact that it's, it's, it's definitively evil to be doing the things that were taking place in the name of your ideology or what you believe as an act of vengeance. But the reality is that if any one of us were in that situation, I know I would, I would, I call it flipping a switch. Yeah. I know that if somebody did that to my family in the name of whatever, my initial response, except for the grace of God stopping me would be, where's the machete? Where's the gun? Where are they hiding? And then I would feel like him at the end as well and probably do something dumb and shoot an innocent bystander because that's just human nature. And that's what I loved. And that's why it is, you can't, like this is one of those films that if any one of these guys were nominated opposite each other, you'd be mad. You'd be like, you can't give it to anybody because nobody was more profoundly connected to their role than the other three. Yeah. They were all so good. Yeah. And obviously whatever Shushan is left, I don't know what he is outside of MS Doni. I don't know what else is left of him. So you guys can let me know. Obviously we'll see everything that Rajkumar does. Yeah. He's so good. I want to see more of Amit. Me too. Shout she was really strong as well. She was actually. The two other actors I thought were really strong was the uncle. Yes. Which I think we've seen in a few support roles. We have seen him in some supporting roles but he was really good. Everybody was believable. Which is the most important criteria. Asif was so good and so believable as well. So I commend the casting. I looked up the casting director and I wanted to give a shout out because casting, casting, casting. You know who that is, right? Across the board. Yeah. He's one of the biggest casting directors in India. Mukesh Chabra. He's also the one that directed Shushan's last film. Yes. So Mukesh Chabra's the casting and your associates nailed everybody including young Ali. He not only was believable as a human being but he was believable as a good batsman in cricket. Yeah. You even learned some stuff about cricket in this. On-site, off-site. Do you know about that? No. So I thought it did everything so well. There's really, I thought that one little gripe and that's just the personal preference of mine. I can't really find a weak point in this. No. And the songs and the score Amit Trivedi was immaculate, perfect. Like if I had been directing that and had been given that score I would have been just continually grateful to him to say you just, you nailed every moment. I don't know how much they worked collaboratively as far as, you know, a lot of directors work hand in hand. A lot of them just say, do it and give it to me and I'll tell you afterwards. And again, the other thing too, whoever made the choices here and it's always collaborative with direction and cinematography. This is one of the best shot buddy films. No, the cinematographer is... Yeah. Ane Goswami who has done a lot. Yes. A lot on the resume that some of which we've seen. But for a buddy film the whole lighting cinematography combination was and editing, especially in the climactic sequence. The pacing... The pacing in the final editing sequence. The final editing sequences was absolutely perfect. Everything meshed. The acting, the writing, the editing, the score and the direction and cinematography were all... I really, I've said at one point toward the end of it, watching it. Wow. Yeah. Because I was expecting something like Deborah which would have been absolutely fine and happy. But this took it to a whole other level of I can't think of a film that finds the buddy, except for maybe Rang de Besante. That's the only other thing which is... It's a powerful message to go with a buddy. That's the only other thing that I would put in the conversation that I've seen. It's going to be tough. That fits this criteria. For our stupid awards. Yeah. Which... I was thinking about that too. Obviously we've seen almost 100 films this year, right? So I'd have to go back and see all the supporting actors. The dummies are going to be hard this year. But man, they all would deserve a nod just off the top of my head. But once again, I'd have to go back and rethink every single film we've seen. Yeah. I'm going to have to do some serious... Because they were so good. This is a beautiful movie. Yeah. I'm hoping you're still out here if you haven't watched it. Yeah. I really hope you've seen it if you've stayed this far. But if you haven't seen it... I'm sorry you were spoiled. But go watch it. It's worth your time. It is so good. A very, very well-made film. Anybody around the world could watch this film and enjoy it. Anybody? 100%. And should. Well, we hated it. So sorry. Yep. Sometimes we just hate stuff. It's true. You know what? We didn't mention. And it probably should be mentioned in closing. I think what goes about saying for both of us and I'll speak for both of us that our favorite thing was how much the presence of Ranveer was felt. I think it's probably the undercurrent of all of this that inspired them all to be as good as they were. Probably because they wanted to be Ranveer. Probably. It's either that or Vijay Raaz. Yeah. Not the Patricia. Let us know what film you should watch next. Thumbnail.