 I'm here with Ali of Bonacle who has a very interesting system to allow people to play games on devices using a hand controller. Can you describe what this is all about? Correct. So Bonacle is a braille entertainment platform for the blind. We're creating a very small device that looks like a mouse but really doesn't function like a mouse. So it has one braille cell that is basically placed under a finger tip, the index finger, and you have three buttons around it like next and previous buttons and a select button and you have two side buttons on the side. You connect Bonacle to your smart device whether it's like iPhone or iPad for example and you get access to a library of applications whether they're educational apps, productivity apps or games. So do those apps all come from Bonacle? Yeah, we do develop at the moment, we do develop our own apps and games and we do have an SDK for any developer to integrate their own apps or develop apps for Bonacle to utilize a part of it. It's basically packed with sensors that can basically motion sensors, haptic feedbacks, audio for sure and tactile feedback. Oh, that's really cool. So I'm looking at this now. It looks like, I don't know how to describe this, kind of a teardrop shape about the size of my hand. And like you said, it's got three buttons. It's got a turquoise button in the middle, big buttons on either side and then the single cell braille cell, right? Correct. So for example in here, we have a very simple game. We call it Bo's Run. So we have a guide dog called Bo. This is a robotic guide dog and you need to basically train him to avoid obstacles. You'd have different obstacles in front of you. Each obstacle is represented in a different way on the braille cell. And for example, if it's a short obstacle, you'd need to jump over it by sliding Bonacle on the surface or in a table, for example, by sliding it forward. If it's a short or a tall obstacle, you'd need to slide under it. So basically you would slide Bonacle backward and this way you'd glide under that obstacle. If it's a complete block, you'd need to switch lanes. So either go right or left by moving Bonacle to the sides. Okay, I think you should describe it while I play it. What do you think? Can we do that? All right, I'm going to hold it real close to your mouth there. All right, go ahead. Yep, so just... Well, I can't find the place. Yeah, there you go. So you tell me what I'm supposed to do. Oh, I think I just turned. Correct, so now... So you slide right, left, and front, and back? Yeah, okay. So right now you can feel under your fingertip a complete block. So the braille cell is completely up. That means that it's blocked. Once you feel a haptic feedback, you would need to take action quickly by moving sideways. You're getting the hang of it. Correct. Now that's a hole, you need to jump over it. Once you feel the haptic, there you go. Perfect. I'm sliding forward. Oh, and I can figure. Oh, I'm going to go under that one. Correct. Oh, because I'm shorter than that. You're doing great. Yeah, that is perfect. Yeah, I practiced once. Yeah. Allie's telling me how to... Oh, I got nothing in front of me. Oh! That's a crazy bike. I almost got hit by a tricycle. Man, these... Oh, sorry. My hand naturally kind of jitters. I'm going to jump that one. Oh, I'm flying now. Perfect. Okay, it looks like I got to go under this one. I'm going to slide back. So I'm cheating because I'm looking, but we really should have done... Whoops, we should have had me play it with my eyes closed. Absolutely. And actually, this is very important that a region we're actually focusing on games because for blind people, that will actually improve their finger sensitivity. So they need to take the right action quickly at the right time. And that would pave the way for them to learn Braille and get better at Braille later on. And that would actually... That is why we're creating a lot of educational apps that they can use to learn Braille on their own. So for example, we have an app that can teach them the alphabet in any language. I'm sorry, can you help me? We're trying to get it oriented correctly. No problem. We've got that. So now it's connected to an app, an alphabet app, that would basically describe what you're feeling. So this is a letter A. It's saying that this is a letter A. It's represented by the dot one. If you click the next button, so it would speak out loud and say that this is letter B while you're touching at the moment and it's represented by the dots one and two. Okay, I'm going to turn the volume back up. I turned it down. Now I see why you wanted the volume up. Yeah. Okay, so I'm going to hit next. C, this character. C, this character is represented. C, C, this character. D, this D, this character. D, D, D, D, the E, this E, this D, this character is represented by dots one, four and five. And then if I click next. E, this character is represented by dots one and five. And this way you'd be able to go through the alphabet and the numbers and you'd be able to learn them. And then you can take it further to like a spelling app where you can just tell it a word, dictate a word or a sentence and it will be represented under a fingertip in Braille and it does handle contractions as well. Oh, that's really cool. I've been looking for better ways to learn Braille when I was a little girl, I got a piece of cardboard and I punched out the letters so that I could try to teach it to myself. It's like a superpower really. You'd be the KB. The secret code, right? Exactly, it's unbelievable. It's very good to learn. I mean, we actually do get a lot of interest from sighted people and from parents who have blind children because they do need to help their kids in their education process. So they do want to need Braille and that's why we're focusing on the UI of the app to actually provide all the information needed for anyone who's sighted around them to actually be able to help them out so this is how it looks like. So the letter A is represented in both text and Braille. I see, that's very cool. So by the way, it's spelled B-O-N-O-C-L-E like monocle only, monocle for Braille. Yeah, it's short for Braille monocle. So that's kind of very similar. It's like a reading device, it's very portable. It shows you part of the text at the time. That's why we have one Braille cell and when you move it, you'll get the full picture of what you're reading and that's kind of very similar to a monocle. Yes, yes. So you mentioned iPad and iPhone. Does it also work on Android? It will for sure, we're working on that but for now we're starting off with iOS devices and then we'll expand to Android very soon. Very good, very good. So where would people find this product? You can order it online at the moment on our website, www.B-O-C-L-E.CO and that you'd be able to pre-order it at the moment on pre-order, you get 20% discount and we're shipping by next month. And how much will that be costing? It's costing $500 at the moment under the discount it's $399, so 20% off at the moment. Very interesting. Well, thank you very much Ali, I appreciate your time. This is cool. Thank you so much, appreciate it.