 You've joined a very special sister-to-sister today. We have a question like this. Is there good in everyone? There's good in you. I sure hope so. I got a testimony. Flow testimony. Special show. We have testimony time with flow in our second segment. But if you've never joined us before you are going to enjoy this. We are five of God. And you send us questions and we answer those questions from the word of God and mostly from in our hearts. So this first question is really good and it applies to everyone. You too. Listen to what it is. It says. And you sent it. Thanks a lot. You said do you sisters believe there is good in everyone? This is a really important question because there is a lot of evil. In the world. Yes. And there's a lot of bad, hard terror, destruction. There's a lot of evil. So have we lost hope for instance? You know, if there's if there is there good and if they're just bad, why should I even pray for them? Why should I even believe in them? I was just at a conference with Dr. Caroline Lee for several days and she was taking us all back to the garden and she's been studying the mind and brain for 35 years. So back in the garden, the scripture in Genesis 126 says this, Then God said, let us Father, Son, Holy Spirit make man in our image according to our likeness, not physical, but a spiritual personality and moral likeness and let him have complete authority over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air and over the entire earth. So what she said, and I believe it's so true that to the core of you, you are good because he is good. And if you're made in the image and likeness of God, then you are good. The problem is there's different life experiences. There are environments that we're in. There are things we're listening to. There are choices that we're making that affect our life. And so evil, the darkness is going to come and try to take you out. But to your very core, there is good. So if you're struggling with, should I still pray for them? Should I still believe in them? I would say absolutely yes. They are God's kids created in his image and like never give up on them. Well, here's the thing you said that that people should know that we were created in the image of God. And there we are in the Garden of Eden, but there's people that believe they came from a little Amoeba. Yes, that's so different. I know that's different, but in general, there is such darkness covering half of us. So do we believe that there's good in everyone saying that yes, they all came from God is a good thought? Probably we should all go back to Genesis and read from the very beginning how God created man and woman and said, come together, have a family, be fruitful, multiply and take dominion. Genesis would solve a lot of the world's problems right now. Yes, if we could get them to read it, that would be really good. What do you think? Is there good in everyone? You know, I was listening to Corey talk about this and I think she articulates it a whole lot better than me. So I'm going to let her speak. You're passing? I'm passing. Okay. Is there good in everyone, Corey? Well, first of all, I want to start with this, there's inherent value in every single life. I think that that needs to be said first and foremost, but when it comes to good in everyone, I think there's potential for good in every single person. I mean, from the best of the best to the worst of the worst, who's the worst you can think of, Kathy? Hitler. Okay, Hitler. I think Hitler was the worst of the bad. I mean, yeah, when you think of a bad example, yes, that comes to mind. And yes, I think there was potential even for good in Hitler. Like you said, there's choices people make and what paths they take. But, you know, in our culture right now, I think there's this whole mindset where it's like, I think everyone's basically good. And I just don't agree with that. I mean, we're all born with a sin nature. And so I just think the opposite. I think we're not all mostly basically good. I think we're all basically bad. I fight that sin nature every single day. I'm not speaking for all of you, but I know I personally am fighting that every day. So, exactly, Paul, I am the worst of sinners, right, is what he said. I fight that every day. And the only reason that I am not bad is because I got Jesus in my heart, okay? That's, I mean, to say like, we're all basically good. No, like, we're bad. And Jesus can make it right, okay? And I'm going to mess up. But you know who makes it clean again? Jesus. Well, you know what you said about the Paul? That's so interesting because I wonder what he was doing. I mean, I'm sorry, but Paul says it's in Romans, right? Where does he say it? I don't know. I want to do God, but the good and me, I do bad. I choose bad instead of good because that is the sinful nature she was talking about. In the garden, God made everything so that it was good. Then Adam chose to sin disobey God and sin entered into the world. And the scripture says, by one man sin entered, and by one man Christ, we became righteous. So we distinguish between goodness and righteousness. The Bible says no, not one is righteous. Romans 3, 10. We have all come short of God's glory, but Christ in us is the hope of glory. Amen. Roxy, can you tell me that I was confused about this? I'm righteous. I'm self-righteous. Right. Totally different. Tell me. Self-righteousness is sinful. You cannot in yourself save yourself. Righteousness comes from Christ and the work that Jesus did on the cross for us. Okay. Well, do you think that we, all of us and all of them, are we good enough? We're never going to be good enough on our own. Because Christ in us, as I said, is the hope of glory. But God says, God is at work in you both to will and to do His good pleasure. We are His workmanship created to do good works. Not be good enough, but do good works that what's it saying? He has ordained before. God already decided and determines. He says, I've got all these good works for you to walk in. Will you please walk in them? Yeah, yeah. And we have a choice. We do have a choice. Do we want to walk in those good works? Do we want to pray? Do we want to humble ourselves when something goes wrong? Do we want to cause our life to turn to Christ or turn to evil? Well, that's what Corey said. She sins every day. I didn't say I sinned every day. So I die daily. That's the word of God. I've been made righteous through His righteousness. That's just the way it goes. Amy, do you think that we are good enough? Yes. Like Roxy said, Ditto, we are not good enough. But we do live in a region of the world where it's a lot about our religion is about our works. So can I do enough confessions? Can I do enough Hail Marys? Can I light enough candles? Can I go to enough services? Like at what point am I good enough? At what point am I walking with God? At what point am I religious? At what point am I righteous? The fact is, you can do all the works you want, but without Jesus. I mean, He who knew no sin became sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ. He took all of our bad and gave us all of His good. That's so good. And I'm so glad you sent this question. It was kind of hard, I thought, and I just know this. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. So I can go to the next question on this one. Okay, you wrote this to us too. I don't know what you're doing out there, but we're so grateful. Here's what you said. Where do you draw the line between helping people and then showing them how to help themselves, right? So how do you strike that balance? And I'm sure that you're all helpers of people. I am. I know you are. Well, this is the biggest thing I'm facing right now in the stage of parenting that I'm in. So I know this is a general question about helping people, but right now this is like totally what I'm facing because I have teenagers and a young adult in my parenting stage. And it's honestly my biggest regret in my parenting. So I try to pass this down to like younger parents is that don't step in so much. Like honestly, I regret that so much that I haven't allowed my children to kind of even ask for help. I think that's, you know, as moms, especially where we step in so quickly, we train our kids to not even ask for help. You know, and even other people, you can carry this over from parenting into other areas of the world. Like we train people in our lives to not even ask for help. Like people have to learn to ask and, you know, our kids especially, they don't even know how to ask for help. And then we're like, why are the young adults in our lives not asking for help because they have no idea how to because you've literally stepped in for every single thing in their life. And now they're like, I need help. I don't know how to ask. So I think that's something I'm learning now, but it's they're facing much bigger consequences in their life. So I hope you write that down too. Don't step in so much. And it doesn't mean never helping them. But it's learning how to help them in a way where you're walking beside them, maybe giving them examples of a dialogue to have, providing them with here's a phone number to call. It's not doing it for them, but coming alongside them to help them. It's not cutting off the aid, but walking beside them. You know, from the, I'm sorry. Go ahead. From the ministry standpoint, I was thinking, you know, Corey, for me, ladies, I've seen myself just hit battle fatigue, weariness, because you're so busy pouring out and you don't allow yourself time to be poured into. And so what is that, you know, that healthy balance and you guys know that's like my keyword balance, balance, balance, balance, you know. And I think for me, it's when I feel myself getting drained, when people start looking at me like how they should be looking at God, then that tells me I've pointed them to me and my counsel and my wisdom and not the wisdom of God, because when you lift him up, he draws all men unto him. So if I am maybe not intentionally, you know, but there are times that when you are in ministry, the way that we deliver things, the way that we interact, you become the person's answer. You guys hurt me time and time again. Say don't try to be junior Holy Ghost. You know what I mean? Like God is God all by himself. So I need to point you in that direction. It is very exhausting when people begin to look at you in such a manner that they feel all their answers come from you, all the solutions. Also I think you need to know your strengths. You know? Like I got all types of certifications and counseling. I don't counsel. I don't. And people laugh. They go, flow you down. No, no, no, no. Honey, after you talk to me three times and you haven't applied what I told you the first time, we're done. We're done. Now I do have people that I refer people to. Yes. Because that's just, it's just not my strength. You know, it's a grace. I don't have to hear you tell me the same thing five times and I'm not making a mockery of it because people do need that. Listen, I'm one of them. But I don't have that grace. I need a scripture from you on this. Well, you know, Titus 2 says be a model of good works and sound speech. So what's a model? I want to distinguish here what the sisters are saying. One is doing good works. One is being a disciple. That's good. You've got to decide are you going to be committed and is that person going to be committed as flow set to be a disciple? There's difference between giving somebody something and discipling them, being a model for them, bringing them along side of you. And it's so diametrically opposed to one another because a disciple has a commitment. Jesus had 5,000 people listen to him. How many disciples did he have? 12. He sent the 72 out, not the 5,000. So you've got to decide what is the level of my commitment to that person and what is their commitment to change as flow is set. And my commitment is to wrap this segment up so we have lots of time for you to get some coffee and hear the testimony of my sister flow. We'll be right back. Welcome back. You have joined a very special sister to sister show. You see over the last couple of months we've been taking turns sharing a little bit about ourselves and our lives and mostly our testimony. So we are thrilled today to throw this last segment to the one and only wisdom of flow. Go. Well, let's just start with this, being very transparent. I do not like talking about myself. So this is difficult for me. So I'm going to ask for some grace. I asked my sisters to be praying. You know, lots of times when you share testimony, I don't know about you but I came up in a time where it was almost like if you didn't have this grandiose testimony, like I've got delivered from a gang, this, that, then it was kind of like your testimony didn't count. And I think there is something there that sometimes I have to push through. The other thing is I think I'm just basically a private person. And when you start sharing your testimony, you also have to be cautious of who is a part of that testimony. So I'm going to do my best to stick with the points that they ask. And that was a time of pain, a time of great joy. And what I have found is that those times tend to blend together. My mother passed away, she was in a coma first. And of course that was very painful. But the joy of watching her go through deliverance, as God had a man of God minister to her, to me, and I was able to take it to her and to watch God move even while she was in that coma state. That part bought joy. Of course having to release her to go home with the Lord was painful because we then had to make decisions whether to pull the plug or not. Another time of pain and joy every mother can relate to is giving birth. The pain was great, but as the word says, after the child comes forth you forget about the pain because of the joy of having that child. And so I have two children that have some challenges. And one of my children was born with morocystic fibromatosis. And that's when, that's why I can speak to faith versus fear. There was a time, you know, in my life that I felt I was standing in faith for her healing, but really it was a denial there, a fear there. And someone, because I was like not wanting to take her to the doctors, not wanting to, and that was because I was fearful what was going to be said. And I'll never forget that someone shared with me. No, you take her to the doctors so you know directly how to pray, where to target your prayers. And by the grace of God, she is doing phenomenally well. You know, I have some other people in the family who are on the autism spectrum. And that can be very painful, but watching them come into their own. And I can just go on and on. The other thing for me in church was coming up in church, learning things about God and in learning God, being in relationship with him. The things that I learned about God was, we had that question about rules, the do's, the don'ts, you know, and then yet when I got to know God, it became such an intimate relationship. And I thank God for the natural father that I had, because he really set me up to have this relationship with the Lord. You know, the pain of sometimes where you're born and how things are in the world can affect different people differently. And people can try to place limitations on you. The world can say, because you're this, you won't be able to do that. Or because you don't have this, you can't get that. And the grace of God, the joy of God is that for me, none of that rang true. Because everything somebody told me I couldn't do, I was able to do it. And by the time they told me I couldn't do it, it was already being done. So there's a few pictures here. I was never one to think of ministry in a grandiose manner. Ministry to me was always me fulfilling my assignment with the Lord. And so here you see I have a team and we're in Ghana, West Africa. And we are committing a church. This is a new church that we opened up. And we're committing it. And we're praying. But I would have never seen myself doing that. Here we are here. There was a need where the children in the village needed shoes. And that's just a little quick snapshot of where we raised the money, purchased shoes. We're sitting with the chief and they're getting ready to give the shoes out. So the pain of coming up into a village and watching something like you were in a National Geographic documentary but the joy of being able to meet that need. You can continue with the rest. I'm waiting on them. Then here we are. We did a pastoral conference. And I don't have pictures of it but we did a marital conference. And these are the people that were so blessed. This is me ministering to a group of pastors and which is a big change because in this cultural, this particular cultural, it is a patriarchal society. And so the see the women in ministry is huge. And to be received as a woman is huge. This is another church that we have committed and dedicated to the Lord. We were building it up from the ground up. Now I have always been one. My father was, and his brothers were just excellent at everything. Craftmanship and I wasn't. So I thought I would love to know how to build but God is giving me how to build in the kingdom and to build people. And so here I am with one of the leaders of the school in Africa. And I'm ministering to the leader of the school that they bought an assembly together as I was there to minister. Here we are, I'm crying because I couldn't travel for a while so I was sending representatives because we needed to get water to this particular village. And this is my first time seeing the actual, yeah. So obviously I was a bit excited and very thankful for team work, you know, people working together, people that you can trust. This is where we have acquired the property for the hospital. Then COVID hit so we need some prayers for that guys. And this is one of the schools for the village, a pin cry that we are committed to and this is the children thanking us for what we donated and what we're doing, the work we're doing with them. These are the pastors that, you know, in those countries, you know, to be bivocational is frowned upon because if you are a pastor then it's like a lack of faith for you to go and work because God should be providing for you. So to come in and to address that was powerful because there they are filling out applications to go to school and get educated so that they can be bivocational. And my joy seemed to coincide. It's like, God would, so what I have learned is my pain has been more of birthing pains for something else and growing pains. And as a result of that, when I look and those that's just, you know, the continent of Africa, but when I look and I didn't pull all those pictures, but you know when I look and I can pick up my dad that are still working together, still laboring together. These are things that after dealing with children and after having to release my mother and releasing my father, these are things that, and now with my husband being gone, I would have never seen myself doing but it's not about me, right? It's all about him. Well that's pretty phenomenal. How did you get from Pittsburgh when you were a kid? How many times I wonder myself? That'll be part two. That'll be flow demist part two. We thank you so much for being with us today for this very special edition Flo's Testimony. Stay right there. We're going to wrap this up. So having the opportunity today to share my testimony made me think of three and it says to bestow on them a crown of beauty for instead of ashes in the oil of joy instead of mourning and a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair and what I have found throughout my life as you heard me say that the pain and the joy seem to run almost simultaneously together and you know this crown of beauty and of ashes for me has shown me that you know ashes come from burning something from surrendering something from sacrificing something and I had to sacrifice my pain. I had to sacrifice my disappointment and when that happened then I believe that the beauty of the Lord began to come on me in a way that was transferable in a way that I can impart wisdom, knowledge and others as I mourn for different people that had gone on in my life to be able to now look back and celebrate and use what they have deposited into my life has given me joy. I don't have to worry about despair because the spirit of the Lord is upon me and has anointed me to preach good news, good tidings and so my God is just that he's my God he's not a figure in my imagination he's some power out there in the cosmos he is my personal God and that is my prayer for you. Oh I love that pain and joy run together and I also run this one as iron sharpens iron family so does the countenance of a man or a woman sharpen the other what a great testimony today and great to have you here at sister to sister.