 Okay, yeah. Okay, just reading verse from Proverbs 18 and verse 7. Okay, says a fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul. Okay, I don't know how any other translation reads. It says a fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul. Okay, so which means that the words that we speak are like a rap for the soul. So now we know when the Bible refers to the soul, in the Old Testament it uses spirits and soul interchangeably, but primarily it's talking about the thoughts, talking about the imaginations. It's talking about whatever mental faculty. Okay, so it's saying that a fool's mouth is a destruction, and the way it happens is this, and his lips are the snare of his soul. Okay, so which means the words that I speak, the conversations that I have are actually like a trap for my thoughts, my imaginations and whatever I think. Okay, so which means if I'm going to speak things that are, I don't know, about a particular, about myself, about my future, about how I will be, and it's going to be like a trap. And I'm just thinking like, you know, if you think of a trap, you can think of a rat trap, right, you put in a coconut or something and then, you know, you hear that pack, you know, that thing closes and it's trapped. So the words that we speak are like that trap, like it closes and it's difficult, like the thoughts, the imaginations, everything that is going on in our minds, like it can be fearful thoughts, it can be fearful imagination. It can be thoughts of failure. It can just go over and over and over again, because it's like a trap, because we've spoken it, right, that is what we are speaking about ourselves. And sometimes we don't realize it, right, like in the sense, suppose we, it comes as a thought about ourselves, right, okay, I will, or today is a bad day, or today I'm, you know, I'm in a bad mood, or something like that. And then we kind of agree with it, right, we tell ourselves, maybe in our thoughts, we tell ourselves, yeah, you know, this is how I'm feeling today is going to be a bad day, or, you know, I'm not in a great mood, I'm not in a good mood, and could be about anything in life, you know, any aspect of our lives. So we agree, we speak it out, sometimes it's verbal, somebody says something and then we agree with it, or it could be non-verbal also, but then it is spoken, right, it is agreed, and it says here that his lips are the snare of a soul. Now, if we want to turn it around, since the words that I speak are a trap for my soul, how will it be if I speak those words of truth, or words that are powerful, it's again acts like a trap for the soul, right? So if I speak powerful words, which are words of truth, if I agree with the word of God about myself, it is again like a trap. It's going to be trapping something in my soul, the thoughts, the imaginations and everything. It's going to be there, it's going to be trapped there, but these are good things. It's going to be locked in, but these are good things. So what we speak, you know, I'm sure we've studied about confession and everything, but what we speak is so important, what we verbalize is so important, you know, and until we speak it and until we sometimes we need to say it out loud in order to come in agreement with, right? So today, yeah, why don't we just make some confessions about ourselves, like if we just say, okay, you know, I'm victorious, I'm a child of God, I'm walking in faith, I'm walking in victory, right? So many things that we can declare over ourselves, right? Let's do that. Just begin to just pray out in the spirit, pray in tongues for some time, just to stir ourselves up in faith, in a man. Let's do that. So let's begin to just say this out loud. I'm blessed. We can say it out loud. I'm blessed with every blessing that comes from the Lord. I share and enjoy all the blessings God has for his people. Okay, now you need to say this out loud bold and strong. I'm strong and courageous. I'm bold like a lion. God has not given me a spirit of fear but of power and love and a sound mind. The Lord is my confidence and security. Okay, now this is about exploits. I know my God and I am strong and I shall do great exploits for God's kingdom. God works in me and through me to accomplish things way beyond that I can ask or think or imagine. Okay, so lastly, let's make some declarations about our future. Okay, God knows the plans he has for me, plans to prosper me, to give me a future full of hope. God has planned ahead of time things he wants me to do and I am walking into them. I will discover joyfully the good works, the good works that God has prepared for me and I will walk in them and I will accomplish the plans and purposes that God has for my life. In Jesus' name, amen, amen, amen. So, you know, just imagine if you're able to do like maybe 30 minutes of just declaring of God's Word, you know, all this is from Scripture, right? Jeremiah 29, 11 and, you know, we are walking in victory and Ephesians 3, 20 that he will be able to do exceeding. This is all Scripture. So, if you take about 30 minutes, you know, first thing in the morning, just to declare the Word of God, just to speak out the Word of God and say, hey, this applies to me, this is for me, right? Because it is, right? And it will really change the way we face the day, how we start the day. It will really change the way we face situations, right? Yeah, okay. Okay, so yesterday, what did we look at? Sermon, construction, and we looked at application, right? Okay, so application is, we said that application is very important because that is what helps at the end of it, you know, you might have shared a good message. But at the end of it, it is what helps us to put to practice, you know, take it and do the Word of God. Okay, James is very clear that let us not be just hearers of the Word, but let us be diligent doers of the Word. So, it's good to hear, it's good to help people hear the Word of God. But it's important that we make that facilitate that people also carry out, right? Okay, so when do we make, when do we teach about the application or when do we, you know, share about the application, how to do it? Okay, so it is before we conclude the message, right? So, when we looked at the message, we saw there's a introduction, then there is that proposition, then there could be an interrogative statement, and then you move on, okay, to the main points of the message, right? So, that is what we saw. Now, there is this again, I just want to repeat and said, okay, this is a suggested outline, okay, so it could be different, that's fine. But this outline helps so that people can receive it, people can remember it, recall and then apply it, right? Okay, so when it comes to application, you do it at the end of the message and say, okay, these are three ways by which we can, you know, go ahead and share the gospel, like we said yesterday, right? This is how you do it. You can share the gospel by way of, you know, there are many ways of sharing the gospel. You can share the gospel by way of maybe a word of knowledge, like you approach a person, share a word of knowledge, and that gives you an opening to share the gospel. You can ask permission, you can say, okay, hey, can I, you know, do you mind if I just share something about Jesus? They give you permission, you share it. It can also come by means of a testimony, you know, this is what happened in my life. Can I tell you this? You share it. Or it can come as a, when you see a need in people, and then maybe they are sharing about their life and they're saying, okay, I'm going through this difficulty, or I have this problem in my body financially, whatever, and that is also an app time opportunity to share the gospel. Saying, okay, I can pray, and this is the reason I pray, and this is what Jesus did, right? So those are ways by which we can share. So in the application part, we can really share this, the practical aspect of it, and then we can share it. Okay, something for us to understand is that the application is not the conclusion. Okay, so conclusion or the end is when we wrap things up, maybe summarize and end the message, right? So the application is before the conclusion. It's not the conclusion itself. So the right time is once you've finished the sermon, all the points have been explained. Now you go into the application part, right? Now when it comes to the application, like, there are certain messages where, let's say you have three points to share. At the end of every point, you know, there needs to be an application, okay? Like for example, if you're talking about the gifts of the spirit, and you're, let's say, you're teaching on word of knowledge, word of wisdom, and prophecy, okay? So three different gifts. So at the end of each of these gifts that you've explained, you can actually have an application, right? Okay, this is how it works. This is how you can actually work or walk in this gift in your life. Okay, so you have three points. We don't have to wait till the end of the message to give the application for all the three points. You get what I'm saying, right? So it'll be too much to handle. So you can actually share at the end of every point and say, okay, gift, word of knowledge, okay, this is how you receive, this is how you do it, this is how you walk in it, word of wisdom, this is how you do it. Then prophecy, this is how you receive it, this is how you rape, or see, prophesy, this is how you work it out. And then, and maybe at the end of it, application can be to present more, to pray more, to, you know, to be sensitive, to, you know, look out for opportunities to share, etc. That can be, but at the end of every point, there can be an application point. Okay, so you see what your message is, you know, how your message is, what is the theme of the message based on that, we can actually alter or modify the application. So it can be right at the end, or it can be at the end of every point that you're sharing, right? Like for example, this, you know, the message on the Gospel, sharing the Gospel, it can be just one application right at the end. Okay, it doesn't have to be, you know, why is the Gospel, you know, the important message to be shared, what is the Gospel, there's no application there. And if you look at those points, there's no, there's nothing to apply there rather than to just know, hear, understand, right? So there it makes sense to have one application right at the end of the message. Okay, so you decide where it is. Okay, then conclusion is the end of the message, you know, it's good to summarize and then just end it. Okay, don't drag the ending, right? I remember one pastor, an elderly gentleman, right? This is in the Methodist Church, and he always found it very difficult to end. He would have shared, and he'll just be going on and on. So I'll be, you know, I always joke about it saying he's trying to land, but he's not able to. He's just going around the airport once, twice, when will he land? Everybody is getting restless. Okay, when is he going? Because he's finished. He's finished sharing. Okay, we all know there's nothing more to be said, but he's not landing the plane. He's just going around and around. You know, so what happens is, you know, it might have been a fantastic word, but it gets, you know, it gets diluted. The impact of it is lost because you've not concluded it well. And most times, we don't think about the conclusion, right? We're thinking about, okay, how to start the message? What will I share in the message? What illustration can I give, you know, how to apply it? But very rarely do we think about the conclusion. How do I end the message, you know? Okay, somehow I'll end it. Just pray, okay, let's close our eyes and pray, and then we'll end it. We won't think about the conclusion, but conclusion is as important as the introduction, right? Because it's what you leave with the people. It can be a very impactful thing. So conclusion, and of course, you know, we talk about in a typical church setting, or even, you know, maybe like a meeting, we do go into a time of ministry, right? So we've shared the application and conclusion we can go into a time of, we ended the message, we can go into a time of ministry. Now, the ministry time is really powerful because we've shared the word. We are giving an opportunity for people right then and there to act on the word, right? Maybe it's something that can be acted upon right then and there, you know, it's something on faith, something that people can respond to. So we're giving an opportunity for people to act on it. We're giving an opportunity for people to respond to the word. And we are inviting the Lord, we are inviting the power or presence of the Holy Spirit to come and minister to people's hearts, right? It's like, you know, opening the door, we are, it's a risky time. You know, anything can happen, right? The Lord will minister in different directions, maybe he starts giving words of knowledge on about people and maybe he wants to heal bodies and minds and, you know, he wants to bring about restoration, reconciliation, people's lives, so many wonderful things. And we miss out on it if we don't really step in, press in, right? Because it's a risky thing in the sense, we don't know. We don't know what's going to happen. But then we can always, it may be nothing, you know, nothing major spectacular would happen, you know, like maybe that's just the presence of God, just a peace that you feel in your heart and everybody's also feeling the same thing and we're just close. Or, you know, maybe there's just, God just starts, you know, giving those words and you go from one to the other and then, you know, you're acting on it and there's a lot of things happening, right? It could go either way, right? So, you know, so a conclusion can go into a time of ministry, okay? Okay, Nina, you want the reference for Probs, right? Probs, we looked at 18, I think, right? 18 and verse 7. Probs 18 verse 7. Okay. Okay, then let's look at the language that we use in order to reach the message. You know, we'll come back to this a little later, you know, more of this when we look at the presentation, some practical aspects, the language, okay? It's always good to use clear, simple language that people can understand. And of course, when we're talking about language also, you know, different languages, people which people can understand, you know, if it's a different language that you speak and then the people also, people understand a different language, so it's always good to have a translator and so it can be effective, right? So, use language, use words that clearly communicates the message. You know, sometimes what happens is we use a lot of words and it sounds good as a, you know, a sentence that we use but it's not really communicating clearly, okay? Because the words that we're using are maybe complicated words, maybe, you know, I remember professor in college, I think it was marketing management that he taught but he'll always use like long sentences, right? Very long sentences. By the time he finishes the sentence, people are tired and okay, you know, it's long. And he will also use multiple words, like for the same thing. Like he'll say, for example, if he wants to ask, what is your name? He'll say, what is your name? What you call yourself by, you know, for example, you know, what is the thing that parents have given you? Like, he wants to sound very dramatic, but the thing is that doesn't work like in a classroom setting and it'll be very, very, classes are long. Whatever he communicates is very less, the points that he makes but then he's speaking a lot of words. Okay, so the thing is that, you know, we're not here to show or, you know, vocabulary or skill in words, et cetera. We're here to communicate, right? So actually to communicate well in a simple manner, it's very complicated. I mean, it's very difficult, challenging, right? You can use a lot of big words and you can say a lot of things but then to really communicate in a simple manner, it's challenging, right? And we can learn to do that and we can always improve. Choose words that most people in the congregation will understand. Now, you know that in the audience, there will be different people, maybe different levels of education, different levels of, you know, language ability, right? So when you look at what does the majority understand, right? So use those words. Avoid long sentences. Make sure that, you know, you continually improve yourself so that your language is grammatically correct, okay? Because if there are grammar mistakes, then it's a struggle for people again. It's a strain. People are straining, right? Especially those who know the language, right? Have you been in a meeting where, you know, maybe, you know, the message has been translated and you know both the languages, okay? And the translation is making a mistake, right? You know that, right? And it's a struggle, you know, you're feeling, oh no, that's not it. You know, you want to correct what you can't, right? And the same kind of stress you feel when you know the language and the person is maybe making grammatical errors and then they are saying, see, it's not a big thing. God can't speak despite that, right? I've been in meetings where people don't know the language. They know very few language words, but the power of God is there. So that's there, you know. But if you wanted to be effective in the long run, if you want to teach, right? Teach the word. If you want to, you know, communicate the power or the truth of what you ought to share, if you want it to be effective, it's best that you improve, that we improve the language, right? And also, along with grammar, what is the word? You know, how is it spoken? How is it said, right? Many times when you learn a certain word, we learn it wrong. For example, you know, there is, okay, the people who are robbers in sea, okay, who go on ships and rob, the word for them is pirates, right? Now, I encountered the word when I was reading a comic, okay? So I, for me, in my mind, it was Piretis, okay? So I read it as Piretis and for a long time it was Piretis in my mind. So I didn't know that it was called pirates, right? And I remember, you know, I think I said it out, hey, about this Piretis and then people said, hey, it's not Piretis, it's pirates. And then, you know, things like that, right? So you learn it wrong. But actually, today you have YouTube. You can just say how is this word pronounced, right? You can just type it in. You hear it. You can get it in the actual original language, which is English, which is UK, I mean, British English. You can hear it in American English, which is a friendlier version of it. And you can now almost hear, you know, any other version of it. How that word is said, okay? So we can understand, and I always do that, you know. Sometimes I think, okay, how is this word said? I think this is how I've been using it. But how is it said, you know? It's always good to go back and check, okay? Yeah. Okay, any questions here? Anything on the application or any other aspect of sermon construction? No, no, these are practical guidelines. These are not APC guidelines. Generally, you know, wherever you go, if you're preaching, you can, you'll find this, it's not just for APC. Yeah. Okay, Arun's question is the third point. Do not use scholastic language. Yeah. But they say like, see, if you see this, Brahmins and oil, the people who converted from Brahmins, they use so, I mean, unique language when they're preaching. So that, that impress, I mean, that gets the people, right? People's main attention. Yeah. So the thing is this, you know, it depends on the audience again, you know, but the simple language will work for any audience, whether they're learned, unlearned, whatever. It's a very simple, clear communication will work for anyone. Yes, it is true. Like, you know, maybe you're addressing scientists and scholars and, you know, those kind of people, educators and all that. We understand, you know, like some of the apologetic speakers, like Ravi Zakhar and Stuart McAllister and all these people, they've used, you know, there's so much idea packed in one word, so much concept in one word. And if a person were to talk about it simply, it will take maybe a paragraph to explain it. Okay. But then that one word contains the whole idea. So if you understand that one word, it's sense. It makes perfect sense. You know, I can just say, you know, a debate, right? But if the person does not know what the debate is, then I have to say, okay, maybe I can say ideas, you can say some ideas and we can talk about it and argue about it, you know, things like that. So that's the thing. So it depends on the audience and also, you know, where God is using us, you know, consistently. Yeah. But a simple way to communicate will work anywhere. That's the thing. Paul's poems. Yeah, poems are, it depends again. You know, it's, yeah, there are poems that are simple and which don't use, you understand it. There are some which don't, you know, you can't. Yeah. Yeah. So a pastor coming to language, like, what about style pastors? Like, people have a particular style. So basically I'm from Kerala. So, like, I saw preachers like us, they have a particular style and particular language style. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Like not slang. Maybe the sound will be boss sound and also, like, whenever this lowly message is going, people sleep. Suddenly they'll wake up and something they'll do. So after all that. Yeah. So again, you know, yeah, people do have unique styles of speaking, like, for example, if you, huh? Yeah. And also, I think we're going to look at it now about whether it's a message that is preached or taught. Okay. So, yeah, that is also, that also depends. Like, let's say somebody like Stephen Furtick, I'm just using these names because, you know, you see their styles of things. Stephen Furtick or Bishop T.D. Jakes, you know, they are preachers. And to say one point, they are sweating it out. And, you know, they just dramatize it and very theatrical about it. And they're making that point. Okay. It's like what you can call a punch dialogue. Right. You know, just saying it. The same thing. If you were to have a teacher say it, we'll say it very simply, you know, like, I don't know if you heard any messages by Derek Prince. He'll just say it in a monotone or, you know, Andrew Omak. It's very, it's very difficult to keep your eyes open, you know, when you're, suppose you're tired and all, it's very difficult. They don't even, voice doesn't even go up and down. It's like one, same, flat, and that's it. So, yeah, so the different ways of delivering it, we'll, we'll look at it. So, yeah, I mean, different styles work for different kinds of messages. And it's fine. It's fine. As long as it's, I mean, that's the way, you know, that's your natural way of doing things. You know, it's, it's fine, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. And also it should not interfere. See, sometimes too many hallelujahs and praise the Lord, you know, it just, it's a waste. I feel that, you know, it's not like, okay, you're getting people to praise the Lord. You're using it as part of your conversation. You know, when I first joined the church, fillers, time fillers, gap fillers, it is what we call as verbal fact in the sense, you know, you're saying a lot of things. It doesn't really make sense. You know, you don't mean it also. Like when I joined the church first beginning, like, see, I come, I don't come from a charismatic background as such, right? So come from a CSI church, CSI background. So method is and all that. So we don't really, at least, you know, we don't wish people saying praise the Lord, praise the Lord brother. We don't say, you know, so for me, it was, it was a different thing because on the phone, I will get a phone call and people will say, you know, praise the Lord brother. So the thing is, I don't know who it is. You know, the person is saying praise the Lord, praise the Lord. So I'm, so my thing is, okay, praise the Lord. And then, you know, what else? What do you, you know, who is it? What do you want? So, you know, for me, it was a very difficult thing initially to get over it. Yeah. And then, and then you understand. So this, hallelujah, praise the Lord, you know, you should use it well, you know, use it well and use it, use it in the sense of mean it really, you know, does it, don't use it as a filler. Don't use it to just, you know, get people excited. I know people still use it, you know, hallelujah. You know, the longest hallelujah, I know that. It's fine. You know, I get it. It's fine. You know, you really want to praise the Lord. You want to be militant about your praise. You know, I'd love to do that. But when, where, how, just because people are sleeping, you're doing one hallelujah. I don't think it's, you know, it's good. So that's the thing. Yeah. Okay. You have some questions. It is, is a, okay, Jack in says, is a PowerPoint always required for teaching, preaching? Does that make those who hear more attentive? Definitely. It's a presentation aid. And it depends on how you use the PowerPoint again. You know, you can use, you can have a very busy slide, a lot of information defeats the purpose. You can have just one visual, one point helps greatly. So, so what are the points? What points should we consider putting in the slides? Only the verses or pointers are applicable. It can be anything, you know, whatever you want to. Yeah. Versus definitely it will help differences. And then certain important points that you want to put, you can put that. Maybe we can look at it at a later time, like, you know, what not to do in a presentation, right? What not to put, how to keep a presentation impactful. Because, you know, we don't want to treat it like a sermon notes, right? That's not the idea. We want to aid or enhance what you're saying. And at the same time, help people recall things. So it can be a combination of visuals and, you know, text, and you can use it in the right way. So it can be a great help, right? Especially, you know, today's time when we put things online, it can be a real great help. We'll look at it. We'll come to it, Jack in. Yeah. Okay, so, yeah. Okay, so let's, any other, yeah, sorry. That's just, like, next question is, like, I used to bridge for, like, I'll use background music. So one day what happened is, like, I hear on preach, I hear on preach, like, he's giving the music like a movie type, like, he will go to reach the point, like, something, music, so because of that, I stopped that playing background. So is this needed or is this I don't know too much about it. But what I've seen is that some of the black churches, like black American churches, and I think it comes from there. Right. So where somebody is there playing, they're like, organ. And then when the preacher makes a point, they're like, you know, he's just playing loud. I had to do it. And then, so I feel that that's an amazing skill also. It works for that setting. Okay. So, like, in a black church, like, I've never been in one, always wanted to. It's like people are running around, people are standing up. You know, suddenly there's one, you know, suddenly praise break and everybody's, so all that is there. It's like, so it's like a workout. When you go to church and come, everybody's like sweating. And, you know, so it's like that. It works. But then, yeah. So the thing is, see, music is powerful. Like music, like we see in, is it a Lesha's case where he says, just give me a, bring me a musician. So we don't know what kind of music was played, what instrument, but then he starts playing and it says, just says that the hand of the Lord came upon the prophet and he goes on to say, thus says the Lord. So music is a powerful tool, right? In worship, because it's, it is a vehicle and used rightly, you know, anointing and everything happens. So it's a powerful tool. So, yeah, in that sense, we can, you know, we can use, you feel that, okay, I'd like something, we played in the background for a message. There's nothing wrong. You know, there's one preacher, I know, who always has a person playing an acoustic, like his son plays the acoustic guitar. He'll be playing something soothing, something soft and he likes that. Yeah, it's fine, I think. But as long as it doesn't become a manipulation, see, music also is used to, is a mood enhancer, right? So you go walk into any mall or, you know, any shopping, this thing, they got music playing because they, they know that you come from the, you know, traffic and then the AC hits you as you walk in, as you walk in and then you hear the music and you're feeling fine, wow, I think I'll buy this. I think I'll buy that, you know, you're feeling so nice and you'll buy more than what you need. You know, it's a manipulation also. You can use it to manipulate. And I think, I don't know whether we discussed it earlier, like, you know, there was this rap concert, people went there and then, at the end of the concert, people went on a rampage, right? Whole mob because of the violent lyrics and the way the music was, right? So, and so heavy metal concerts and so on. So, music can manipulate. So, am I using music to manipulate? The same way, am I using my voice and, and whatever I'm saying to manipulate people, you know, do I want them to feel sad? Do I want them to feel, you know, emotionally moved rather than be moved by truth or be convicted by the power of God's word? If I'm just getting them emotionally moved, right? Then it becomes manipulation and we don't, you know, you don't want to do that, right? It can happen when it, when it's like, maybe you want people to give into ministry, you know, manipulation. You want people to be moved to make a decision all to call again. It's, it's unnecessary. And that's not, see, that will not stay long. You know, it's because it's emotion. If you, if you, somebody can get you emotionally high, emotion will go, you know, and they leave emotions will go. But the truth, the conviction of truth, that will stay whether there are emotions or not, you know. So, that's the thing. So, it's a fine line and we need to be careful. Eat for the music or sin pad in the background when we are preaching. Disciples and Jesus never use, they never use the microphones only. And he was, I mean, making a statement like if, if there is a power in the word, if you, if you can make it, if you depend on Holy Spirit, why you need this and, and how, what you said, if, if we, maybe we can temporarily embrace their emotions just for, just for the time they, they stay there. But afterwards, it will go very easily and the word stays longer. That's true. Yeah. So that's the thing. But also we need to understand that, you know, one other extreme is they will not use the music at all. That's another extreme, right? Saying that, okay, singing, you sing acapella, no, no drums, no, you know, guitars, nothing, no music at all. The fact is that the Lord has given these, these Psalms are full of it. Even Revelation, we read about it. At least trumpets are there, you know, harps are there. So, you know, so there is music. It has a place because that's how we are created. Spirit, soul, body, and we are created to enjoy, respond to, and it has a spiritual connotation as well. Right. So it can be used well. It should be, yeah, it should be used well, rightly. Yeah. Okay. Online folks, any, anything that you'd like to share? Any questions? Okay. Pastor, I thought I just wanted to share this one. Like I remember. Sorry. Yeah, I can say again, please. Can you hear now, Pastor? Yeah, I can. So there was this Billy Graham Crusade and he always answered the song Amazing Grace. So when, during that crusade, like once there was somebody who told that because of the song and because of this emotions that being played that many people give their life to Christ. And then once he decided, I'm not going to, he was so upset and he stopped singing. And that's when more people, more than any other crusade, many people gave their lives to Christ. So as you said, I think it's the power of the Holy Spirit and the anointing and not in the song or the, or the words that we say. So I just. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's true. It's not the, it's not the music. It's not the thing. But then I also, also want to say that, you know, truth when sung, truth when used with the right music, anointed music is even more impactful. And I'm, you know, so, yeah. So it's, it's not just the emotional part of it. It's, it's what stirs the spirit and it can be rightly used. Right. Yeah. Okay. So let's, let's just look at chapter 10, ministering God's, but different forms of delivery. Okay. So different forms of, let's say communicating a message, you know, one is you can just preach it simply. Right. You can say it and that is the most common one. Second one is a illustrated sermon or dramatize it. Right. And also it can be like where people come act out certain things that can also be, you know, a very powerful way. It helps for a, you know, a certain audience. It helps for even a younger audience. It helps grab people's attention so you can actually dramatize it. It can be in a story form. I remember watching a video and it was actually on the message of Ruth, right? Ruth and Naomi and, and he, this person, I didn't, I never realized, you know, it was about, it was such a modern story. Right. We talked about, he gave modern names, like today's names, very contemporary names. And he was talking about, you know, this is what happened and then he was talking about the lives of these people that they went there to this land, the city and they started life. And so you never realize it, but he was actually narrating the story of Ruth. Right. And it was just very powerful because he made it in today's context. Right. So it was very, very, very powerful. So you can actually have it in story form. And at the end, you tie it all together. Right. Fourth one, props on stage. Of course you can use props. Children's ministry, you know, people use props very effectively, even for, you know, other, you know, general, other age groups, you can definitely use props, you know, and it's going to take some time, take some planning to use props. So props we are talking about, you know, the, if you're talking about, let's say, if you're teaching on the, the armor, right? Efficient six, special armor, you can actually use those props. You know, we think about it and we visualize, okay, this is what a helmet is like, and this is what a shield is like, but you, if you actually have those things, you know, and people, maybe each part, you know, you have one person and then you fit it on that person, it is even more powerful. Right. We'll see it. And there was this person, he passed away. Okay. I don't know if you've seen videos of Carmen, person called, he was an evangelist slash, you know, C-A-R-M-E-N. Okay. So he was very good at this, illustrated, you know, using props on stage, very contemporary things of those times. I'm talking about maybe 80s, 90s, not even, yeah, 90s, I guess. He was way ahead of his time then, but he'll go, you know, sometimes out of the way, you know, like, bring some snakes, I think some cobra, not cobra, python, and use it. And there was this lady preacher who comes on to stage dragging a coffin. And just to make the point that I'm dead in Christ, the old person is dead. Okay. So something like that, right? So you can use props. Okay. You can sing it. It can be a musical. It can be a message. The whole thing can be a song. It can be a song. And I think there are some rural village presentations like this, you know? Like, I don't know what you call it in different, like in Tamil, they call it Gatha Kala Jabam. Okay, that's what it's called in Tamil. So, yeah, in villages, the whole stories are sung. It's a song. And like I've heard, I forget what, right from creation, right from creation, you know, fall of man, cross, everything, being sung. I don't know. It's a typical village setting, right? The whole thing is sung. And it'll be like a folk song, right? It'll be acted. So the whole thing is like this, right? People are on stage. People are sitting down. And they are singing it. So it's not like a song intro, not like, you know, explanation about the song or some message in between. It's not like that. The whole message is actually sung. So I don't, maybe I'll see if I can get a video and then, you know, so the whole thing is sung and it works very well for that kind of a, you know, like a rural audience. Because you're used to it and the whole message goes through, the whole story is, you know, because visuals, PowerPoint, slides, videos, we can enact it and also have something like a talk show, where there is a panel sitting. I don't know, we had one like this, okay? I think it was for a Easter Sunday service. It was like a talk show. I'll try and get that video also. So it was nice, nicely done. Okay, so there are various ways by which we can communicate it and you can choose. It doesn't have to always be, you know, a message that you want to preach, say it with words. You can use other creative ways, but it's going to take a lot out of you. They're creatively planning, you know, all those things, but it's worth it. Okay, we'll stop here and we'll continue next class. Thank you.