 No reason there we go. Wait, do you have a do you have a light see it now? We are live now Apology and it's time to do the show shoe time to do a shoe That do a show Allison would you like to do a show? I Would very much like to do a show. I mean I wore a hat and everything Sarah would you like to do a show? Oh, I mean we're all here She had to think about it No, of course I'm obligated to do one Fine. All right, here we go in three two Thanks to everyone who supports daily tech news show directly to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the daily tech news for Friday July 13th Friday the 13th. My lucky day 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt And from Sonoma County at my mother's house, I'm Sarah Lane and from the house of destruction. I'm Allison Sheridan Destruction, what's that about? Well, we have destroyed our entire downstairs My house looks like the set of dexter with plastic all over the walls and it's so much dust that our smoke detectors went off Wow, okay, so remodeling hell is what that sounds like. Yeah. Yeah So you might hear I don't know some saws cutting up tile and stuff like that, which would be nice for the audio listeners As long as you have a code for your dark passenger, we won't ask any questions Producer Roger Chang is here as well Roger. How fair ye I fair average We have meaty topics to bring you above average Roger. Oh, let's start with a few tech things you should know Yesterday during the show news broke that the US Department of Justice filed an appeal of the decision to allow the man time warner If it prevails in court The merger which closed a month ago now would have to be undone the DOJ said on June 12th They wouldn't seek an injunction to stop the merger, but was still considering whether or not to appeal So now we know what it decided AT&T and time warner question mark Well the US Department of Commerce Officially lifted the ban on US companies selling goods to China's ZTE the Commerce Department and ZTE reached an agreement last month Evolving changes in leadership payment of a one billion dollar fine and placing of four hundred million dollars in escrow for up to ten Years against future violations On a more positive note epic games announced that due to the success of fortnight It's going to raise the percentage of money it gives developers from its unreal engine marketplace Developers used to get seventy percent of what the game sold for in the marketplace now they get eighty eight percent and The new rate applies retroactively to all products going back to the launch of the marketplace in 2014 That's crazy. Who does that? I Do source to sell the information that within 18 months Amazon web services plans to sell customers white box networks open a source software And have built-in connections to AWS cloud services as well supposedly Amazon could charge 70 to 80 percent less than comparable switches go how about that? Yeah, so given Cisco a run for their money by selling their own switches. All right Let's talk a little bit about the Emmys Allison because it's good news for over-the-top services. It's crazy Netflix received 112 Emmy nominations slightly ahead of HBO's 108 and breaking HBO's 17-year streak is the most nominated network Among the Netflix shows getting nominated were unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt glow the crown and stranger things Jason basement Jason Bateman also got nominated for Ozark and the USS Callister episode of black mirror got a nod Who got 27 nominations 20 of which were for handmaidens tale making it the third most nominated show behind Westworld and Game of Thrones Amazon got 22 nominations only 10 years ago was HBO's domination of non-broadcast Emmys broken by Mad Men Damages and Dexter the Emmys will be awarded September 17th with host Colin Jost and Michael Che also NBC was number three. They were in the list to good for them. They employ my wife I'm happy for them It is pretty crazy to to think how we've gone You know HBO winning an Emmy back in the 90s was huge or even getting nominated Then non-HBO cable network starting to get nominated was huge only 10 years ago And now the court cutting services are dominating the Emmys because they're making quality programs HBO has has been making some of my favorite isn't it? I But for those who do it's like you start to think of it as well. This is why people pay for high quality Program a single thing the HBO Puts up. I'm usually going to but Netflix just has sewing now And this is not surprising 17 year-nominated network, uh, that is uh, that that's a good one, but it was bound to change eventually Yeah, for sure. Uh, and and and we're having a little trouble here in you Sarah So I apologize to the listeners for that. There's a little break up in the the connection there So I'm I'm going to go ahead and read the next one Uh, just to make sure that it that it gets out smoothly Uh, microsoft president brad smith wrote a blog post calling on the us congress to regulate facial recognition smith called it The technology of the moment with broad societal ramifications and potential for abuse Smith called on the us congress to create a bipartisan commission of experts to assess how the technology should be used and advise on laws to regulate it A few things smith thinks should be addressed Use by authorities how they how it should be used Uh prevention of racial profiling accuracy performance minimums and whether to obtain consent from individuals He wrote this should build on recent work by academics and in the public and private sectors to assess these issues And to develop clear ethical principles for this technology He admits in his blog post allison that that it is unusual for a a company to advocate for its own regulation Uh, but it seems if you look at how he wrote it that this is coming from The use of facial recognition or the potential use of facial recognition and immigration enforcement and the heat microsoft took For providing technology to ice which he makes clear again in this blog post Was only maintenance of existing systems for things like email, etc and had nothing to do with any of the Facial recognition that they're working on I also found it interesting. He said he compared them to the regulations that the The car industry used to have used to complain about but now they're really happy with having You know, we think it's perfectly normal to have all of these regulations for automobile manufacturers And he was saying, you know, there's time to just step up and do this on your own and and we really need to have this I was also intrigued by the differences they talked about with facial recognition for people of color and all of the problems they've had with that it's It's interesting of all the scary wild things we talk about with ai. This is this is somewhat different and yet just as big of a topic that maybe does need to be regulated I just man, I wouldn't want to be the The one to try to figure out how to write a law about it Because by the time you get started, it's going to change what it can do, right? Well, and I think that's why he's he's created such a long and carefully written post is to say let's get ahead of this one Uh, we're on our back foot when it comes to algorithms We're on our back foot when it comes to abuse of social networks and bots Let's not be on our back foot In regards to facial recognition and whatever the reason that it's gotten to the top of his his priority list Uh, I think it's a good thing to say Yes, let's create a panel that everyone can agree is built of people who know how this works Let's involve all the stakeholders the public the elected representatives and the companies and say these are Let's acknowledge right from the beginning. These are very thorny issues And we need to do a lot of work to figure out appropriate answers to them I like that. He's not pretending that he has the answers. Yeah, and he also said, okay, some people are going to say Oh, you should do self-regulation. We don't need more regulation. He says, well, that's great Let's say five of the big companies all follow this these agreed upon things we're going to do But then everybody else doesn't Well, then that doesn't do you any good, right? It's it's too deep and too broad and too important to just let it be Voluntary and and like you say too rock with danger. I think yeah, yeah, um for for sure and It's just so I mean There's a lot of good that can be done with facial recognition. He covers those things like here's how it can help you But he doesn't avoid the bad things. Here's how it can be abused If you have the time this is just a really good summary of the state of where facial recognition is and he even admits that Apple exists and mentions the iphone. So it's he's not being like just all pro microsoft Uh, although he doesn't mention google. So maybe there is a little a part of the chip in there. I don't know Yeah, it might be hey, it's not just us Right, right. Yeah. Well, I mean like as any business certainty and stability Especially in the legal environment is paramount because you need to be able to plan a lot of these especially with innovation You need to be able to plan four or five ten years out and you don't necessarily want to have a hodgepodge of uh, different legal rulings and environments when you can just like Allison was alluding to where you can have with the car industry Just a set of federal guidelines that everyone adheres to and they say, okay This is what we have to work with we can plan around this and then we can move forward Well, let's move to a much simpler and less controversial topic US special counsel robert muller obtained an indictment against 12 russian intelligence officers for allegedly using spear fishing And malware infections to access email accounts of computer networks of the democratic national committee Uh in in a few different, uh instances and the hillary clinton campaign The conspirators are alleged to be behind the dc leaks and goose for 2.0 accounts Two of the officers are further accused of conspiring to attack computers of state boards of election secretaries of state and companies that supply election technology Uh and as a result copying information for around 500,000 us voters The indictment does not find that the actions altered vote counts or election results and no us citizens are accused of any crimes or conspiracies 11 of the russian defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit computer crimes Eight counts of aggravated identity theft and conspiracy to launder money And then one of those 11 and another defendants are charged with a separate conspiracy to commit computer crimes Uh and and that that involves those other charges there about the attacks on election boards so We're not going to talk about what effect this has on the president or the senate or the congress or the campaigns or anything like that We'll leave that there seem to be plenty of people talking about that I don't think you'll have a hard time finding a take on that but we did want to talk about uh what actually went down and and In that respect. It's a fairly mundane attack It is a state sponsored attack. It's an advanced persistent threat. It is it is from the intelligence agencies according to the Mueller investigation But it's not using sophisticated methods to get this. This is not a stux net This is just a typical spearfishing campaign the kind of which happened all the time to corporate entities And I found that fascinating else. It's the mostly Mostly bag of water. What is that exact quote problem, right ugly bags of mostly water? Is that the Star Trek reference? Yeah So, uh, it is interesting to me that they were able to identify so specifically Who did this so it's not like vaguely. Oh, we think russia did it. It is this guy this guy this guy this guy Here's the first name middle and last names here's who they are what their job was I mean that is a fair amount of intelligence gathering to go beyond just knowing that something got hacked To then finding uh the results of exactly how they did it what tools they used and who was behind it That's that's a lot more than just uh, you know scanning a network for vulnerabilities or for for intrusion detection, right? And we've been ringing the alarm bells of companies need to pay take security seriously Companies need to do more to stop social engineering just building a castle All right, you know a moat around your network is not enough Because the vulnerabilities are not just technical. They're also human And this is after years of saying that we've been saying in one of these days It's going to cause a real a bigger problem. This is an example of that This is a major political party not properly securing its servers not properly training its people to prevent these kinds of attacks I again, I go back to that like I think one of the reasons to tie our two comments together Allison one of the reasons it's it's was it was They were able to figure out exactly who did it is these aren't sophisticated attacks. They also leave tracks Yeah So I am never going to be the person who says that we need to just train people better because I am Incredibly aware of this whole situation I had an employee of mine when I ran an IT organization in a big government contractor. I had an employee who was Uh like a white hat hacker and I sent him off to def con and I and he he did the capture the flag contest He did incredibly well and everything and then I went to a conference And I met the woman who invented yubi-ki And so she gave me one of them and I brought it back to work and I gave it to this guy and I said Hey, let's check this thing out The yubi-ki is a is a keyboard, but you put your finger on it and it types in a code So he took it from me and he stuck it in his computer and all of a sudden we both went I went to a conference Met a foreign national took a phone drive looking device and stuck it into a company computer with the guy that knew all about hacking We both just went yep. Everybody's screwed. There is no such thing as training to stop this from happening Well, and that is a very well taken point It's not just training training people better is not going to fix it because there's always going to be those instances It takes it takes a lot of effort. I think that's that's the upshot of this, right? Like it can't be just like, oh, we've we just trained people better. It'll stop this it it takes a lot of effort Yep, uh before we move on to the next story. I just want to make sure that no Attackers have been able to block sarah lane from speaking again. Well, I certainly hope you guys can hear me better That's last time much better. Oh good. It it's you know, I don't I can hear all of the words now Oh good. I'm so glad I had such nice things to say too about uh hbo and nut flex a few minutes ago I guess you guys will just have to use your imagination All right. Well scientists phil and anthony butler in new zealand have performed the first ct scan on a person that results in a 3d color image the device uses cern's metapix 3 tech Which supports which incorporates particle tracking developed for the large hadron collider This is so cool Traditional x-rays can only measure density and shape but this new detector has small enough pixels and high enough energy resolution to measure fat water calcium and other disease markers a clinical trial using this machine in Christchurch orthopedic and rheumatology patients will start in the next few months New zealand company marz bio imaging which is linked to the universities of otago and canterbury will commercialize the technology And we want to particularly thank dm max for submitting the story on our subreddit and the insightful comments from ga corley if mac do and m brady Yeah One of the best examples of a good reddit discussion from from those folks Help me have a little better understanding because you see the headline and it says 3d color image from an x-ray Well, first of all, it's a ct scan as one of them pointed out and second of all, they're false colors They're just assigning colors to wavelengths That that make it look like a color picture, but that's still helpful That's still really interesting because it helps you be able to tell Things in more detail that you couldn't tell with just the straight black and white from a regular x-ray Yeah, so the other thing that I I love about this story is a lot of times we do science Because we don't know what we're going to learn. We're going to do with it I mean the large hadron collider costs a whole lot of money and it's like well, who cares about the beginning of the universe Why do we need to know about that? That's not going to help my life tomorrow And here's a case of where it's going to help your life tomorrow Because we built the large hadron collider and I say the we the royal we we as humanity built it So I think that that really Really highlights the the value of some of the science that we do in the world And I like the tie into new zealand because I'm going to talk about new zealand later. Yeah. No, it's it's uh It's it's a great point that that this is when you say like, why are we spending all this money on a super collider? This is just one example We we didn't spend all the money on the super collider so that we could make a 3d x-ray But it is one of the side effects and you don't know what those side effects are going to be That's one of the reasons you do science uh for science's sake is is to push forward the boundaries of human understanding Well, okay So if we we talk about going back to traditional x-rays and that you know the whole black and white quality And I try to think of it as like Yeah, I mean if somebody is colorblind there are all sorts of color details that just aren't going to show up If something is a shade of gray and I like you mentioned tom the color doesn't necessarily mean like this is the color of Right, uh, you know fats or calcium. You know, it's it's it's assigning but to have that distinction Uh, especially from medical professionals is probably not going to help somebody like me except me going Oh, that looks pretty cool. But but it seems like that that is that is so Not only innovative but extremely helpful when you're you know making a distinction between What's going on in an x-ray? I'd love it. It's going to it's going to be extremely helpful Because it just gives you more information. So, yeah All right, moving on george hotz has been giving reporters a demos of his level two autonomous car aftermarket system called open pilot from his company comma dot ai open pilot 0.5 That's the newest software adds facial tracking to make sure that a driver's eyes are on the road And comma dot ai explorer that lets users upload telemetry data and note Disengagement to help improve the system for everybody the latest version did remove ways and spotify to free up resources Probably for the best although ways is pretty helpful. I don't know how a helpful spot if I would have been open pilot Is compatible with all toyota and honda models as well as some gm cars Hardware can be purchased anywhere and the software is free from github Yeah, uh This this is interesting because hotz is out there saying all these other companies like waymo Uh, they're trying to do something that they really can't do You know and and the the companies are looking down at him like You're you're just trying to drum up Excitement for your little startup thing But hotz is providing something that you can do right now today yourself Waymo uber any of these other companies are not able to let you Have one of their self-driving cars And and hotz is like and they won't ever be able to they're going to need humans in those things for a long time No matter what they say He's like you should think of it as assisted driving and that's what he provides you buy off the shelf hardware You stick it in in your diagnostic port. You add a couple of of Bluetooth things Into your car you make some adjustments to download the free software from github And bobs your uncle you've got a level two now a level four But a level two autonomous car and the reporters that that tried it out all said yeah, it worked really well It it felt like it made me a better driver The the big one is the facial recognition where if you are not looking forward for six seconds It just shuts down the system and says you can't use it again until you've turned the car off and turned it on again I love the story because it's actually conflating everything. We just talked about right there was the uh the the drone that you can get inside of And it stops being a drone yesterday regulations about that regulations about a facial recognition This has facial tracking and we talked about cars having to have regulations about how you can build them And what you can do with them We're just going to go get this here open source software and fling it into a box We bought off the internet and have it help us drive our car Yeah, I mean it requires some side loading. It's a little a little harder than that makes it sound But yeah, pretty about cameras. Don't you need cameras? Yeah, you need some forward-facing cameras I wish I had some lighter. Maybe you need uh panda odb sensor draft bridge and an eon dash cam Eon dash cam is androids. You have to do a side loading on it. That's it What could possibly go wrong? This sounds awesome. Well, and I love it What could go wrong is it just doesn't work and and and you have to drive yourself, right? You're not relying on it for too much either Right if your eyes aren't on the road, they're not on the road You know the a tracking system to uh to to determine if that that's helpful That is you know something that that maybe some of us should have more of but it's not going to keep your eyes Trained on the road, you know, if you're looking down you're looking down Maybe we just need to install this so that it yells at us when we aren't looking at the road Maybe it has big alerts and then having it in there is better than us not having it in there Because we all we all know how helpful our smart watches are when they say stand up and you're in the middle of something And then you're like That was two minutes ago. It's my watch actually says stand up right now My watch usually says it while I'm standing up. So I don't If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com All right, there's one other story that's kind of a big story of the day But it leads into a wider discussion that allison has been having about apps Sources are telling bloomberg that adobe plans to announce a full version of photoshop for the ipad At the adobe max creative conference in october the app would supposedly be released next year So they'll announce it in october for a 2019 release adobe's chief product officer of creative cloud scott belsky confirmed that the company is working On crass platform iterations of photoshop and other adobe applications But it did not he did not confirm timing or announcements So whether this timing holds up or not It does sound like adobe wants to bring a full version of photoshop To the ipod or to the ipad and allison I know you're crazy about affinity photo and affinity designer on the mac and they announced yesterday that they're Available for the ipad. So this seems to be the trend Well, even more than that actually affinity photo has been out on the ipad for quite some time Maybe like a year an affinity photo I know there's all a lot of people who love photoshop are going to say i'm full of it But affinity photo is a really really successful competitor to adobe photoshop And i'm not a photographer. I'm not an artist But i'm a member of some communities where I watch what these people are creating with it and it's just insane and What I wanted to talk about kind of was this this movement from the mac to the ipad That now is starting to happen the big announcement Just yesterday the day before was that affinity designer their vector design program So the competitor to adobe illustrator is available on the ipad now The other thing is affinity designer is 20 bucks affinity photo is 20 bucks No subscription. So they're really starting. I think they're starting to encroach on on what adobe is doing And it's kind of neat to see that pulling adobe towards the ipad even though they're coming very very slowly But this also folds into another discussion a lot of people are saying Oh, this is just deprecating the mac and the mac's not important anymore And I don't think that's a concern of mine anyway because the the ipad Is a fabulous tool to use with a pencil to draw and make art I mean, that's why we used to have to buy a wake-up tablet to hook up to a mac to in order to do art Why add a tablet to a mac? Why don't you just do it on the tablet? so and and they're coming up with some really innovative ways to To let you use your fingers to do things like a shift key or an alt key a control key Those those controls are being made from the ground up in apps like affinity photo and affinity designer with your fingers In addition, there's even there's an app called vector mate vector nadir vector nadir pro from vector nadir dot i o It's a free vector design program for the ipad now That's pretty pretty crazy that it that it's you know, it used to be eight whole dollars and now it's free It's very capable. It is not nearly what affinity designer is or or illustrator But seeing these things come to the ipad is just fantastic because that is the right tool for the job Not this big heavy desktop my opinion Well, now that you say it like that it makes me think yeah when people were starting to design on computers I remember other people saying, huh? You're going to use a mouse and a keyboard to do what I do with a pencil and a flat surface Screw you And now we have the reverse like oh, you're going to do with a flat surface in a pencil What I do with a mouse and keyboard forget you well when when adobe first released there And and now of course I can't remember the name of it But it was the the pared down version of photoshop for the ipad some years ago I was like i'm not much of a photoshop user. I'm certainly not a photoshop whiz There's a lot of features in there that i'm never going to use but it was like oh, that's cool That's great, but for anybody who uses photoshop You know for work or or on a on a larger scale You want the full version of photoshop? And I know that bellsky is not necessarily Confirming what bloomberger is reporting here But just you know, let's just say for conversation that this is all happening adobe would not do this unless it had enough data to know that especially with the ipad pro enough people would Pay for this and want it And and and it's not because they don't want to use their computers anymore But hey, you have other devices if they can sell more subscriptions Then they will they will they will do more on ios Exactly bellsky's just saying it's not he's not saying when it's coming. He's he's he's he obviously like you say He he knows people want it and they need it Oh Designer or affinity I'll get this right yet sarahf the people that make all of the affinity products also announced that in They'll be having a public beta coming out shortly for their page layout program And that will come out on the ipad. I think they said october of this year So they're iterating incredibly quickly bringing these products to the ipad and and I think this is only going to get more interesting As apple's ui kit gets into into full play where people will be able to create things for the ipad that then they can put on the mac More easily they can develop to for two platforms So now things just start to flow back and forth and we'll just be able to use the right tool for the right job Well, and even and just one more point We even somebody who's kind of new to creative cloud because I just bought myself a couple of months of premiere because I needed premiere pro You know photoshop. I'm not going to be using a ton of photoshop But I am going to be using a ton of premiere and if I have fully featured premiere on a variety of devices And I can figure out how to do some more complicated editing on my iphone. That's great You know, I was at the airport this morning and the wi-fi just at sfo wasn't working, but lte was working fine It's like there are times where I could say even if I prefer to use my computer always I'm going to need to use one of my other devices that I might have on hand Yeah, good point. All right. Thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit In fact, we called out a few of you today and we're going to keep doing it As long as you keep submitting stories and voting on them at daily tech news show at reddit.com We're also on facebook hang out there with us as well facebook.com slash groups daily tech news show But we also get your emails. Let's check the mailbags here Craig wrote in and said I just increased my patreon pledge from a dollar per month to five dollars per month Thanks, craig craig says you're worth it. I come for the tech But I stay for the good day internet discussions Which is good to know craig that you like our food topics not to take away from the bread and butter of what the podcast is All about but I really find gdi. That's good day internet gdi very entertaining off the well discussions Are a blast tom sarah roger allison and everybody else keep doing what you're doing because it's totally working for me You all have good chemistry and it makes me want to laugh and listen Aw, thanks craig. You're the best. I'm glad you enjoy that and uh to charles from sugar land Uh, I apologize uh that it was confusing about good day internet He was he was having a hard time finding good day internet on patreon because the feed was still called dts He's like I can find the dts feed. I'm like, well, that's actually the good day internet feed So I have fixed that I have changed the title so that it reflects that it's both of those Uh, so hopefully that helps more people discover it as well Uh craig also notes at the end of his uh email to us that he is from delaware I had made a joke on a good day internet some months ago that I wasn't sure delaware was a real place Because I didn't know anybody who'd ever been there before and uh craig has set me straight Thank you for being a listener from delaware all the other delaware listeners come forth. We want to know you If you're real if you're real and you might not be hey, you know, it's uh, it's it's hard to say What we do know is real is the wonderful, uh, allison charidan who we love having on the show Uh as many fridays and some other days as we can allison. It's been a while. What have you been up to? It has been well, you know, I was inspired by a question Tom asked on an episode of patrick pageos filius club He asked wendy denford who's a psychologist who uh, how to convince someone to change their mind And of course she explained that you can't change somebody's mind It can't be done and specifically you'll hear tom often say you can't use facts and data to change somebody's mind And I think that probably informed part of why he says that so this last week in chuchat across the pond Which is one of my uh podcasts. I decided to ask professor marianne gary to explain to us Why can't you convince some with with facts and data? She's a researcher in memory false memory and its effects on the law at the university of waikato in new zealand She's also funny really sarcastic and is quite snotty to me during the interview. So it's fantastic stuff Go check that out folks pod feet dot com chitchat across the pond. It's good stuff. I've met marianne. 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I'm on the show Uh, yes, uh, don't want your reboot seems seem to have fixed it Well, you know what? You know what? I didn't want it like we were in the middle of the show So I wasn't going to go into it But um as soon as I restarted It was like my dropbox notifications was like tom merit changed 17 files on dropbox and I was like Oh, wait, I know he's not doing that right now. So as soon as I quit dropbox, I think that that was the issue That must have been it. Yeah That dropbox running in the background doing weird things to me Engine files. Well at first I was like, mom, are you on the internet? Get off the internet You know, and then I was like that wouldn't be the problem No, it makes sense because you were traveling and you as you mentioned you didn't have wi-fi at the airport So all the like daily tech headlines All of the things that I changed in the morning to you know files I moved around that all As soon as dropbox caught up when you got plugged in I know but the thing was is, you know, I was sitting here for I don't know It just you had time. It was fine. You know what it is. It's friday the 13th It's freaky friday Yeah, yeah, there you go mom. You can get on the internet again I mean She's such a wonderful woman. She really is Janks, uh, did you guys have a nice birthday dinner last night? We did Uh, it's Eileen's birthday yesterday. If anyone, uh, doesn't realize we're I'm not having a second birthday As soon as I said that I was like, you know, tom might want to keep his birthday dinner No, uh, we uh, we ordered, uh tacos delivered because I was like, do you want me to make something? Do you want to go somewhere or do you want to have something delivered? And she's like, I want to be spoiled and have something delivered. So We have benny's tacos delivered. Oh, and you love that place Which I have yet to know benny's I'd never been to before. Uh, oh Who's the person who loves it? This is the one I love Paco's is another one I love But you can't get either of them ordered delivery as easily Paco's you can but she's like, no What I really want are a tito style tacos. So we found benny's which has the same kind of tacos as titos got it And this was not on postmates, I assume. No, it was uber eats I got um, I got some uber eats delivered myself last night I got my my my typical ramen and now I do this thing because you know where it's like It's the same, um You know affliction that we all have where we're like, I'm hungry So I'm going to get an extra large pizza and then what you really only want is two pieces of pizza But then you have 16. Yeah, but you can't reason with yourself when you're that hungry You're like, I need the extra large. So it's an emotional response Right. So what I do now when I get the ramen, which is it's a huge thing of ramen With all sorts of stuff in there. I get extra noodles and extra ramen. So I'm really ordering two But it's more cost-effective than just getting two of them Hey, it was requested that I explain my hat Let's take that out So you could see in the photo I dropped into let's see it's in the discord in the irc chat That is a picture in the Galapagos islands of me wearing this shirt and this hat that I took just for you guys Which is a dts shirt and a blue-footed booby hat Yeah, so right now this is the way it was shown in the uh, uh In the photo, but the fun way is with the blue-footed the blue-footed boobies I've seen a blue-footed booby in um Not the galapagos, but because I've never been there, but they um, I took a little tour off of the coast of I guess the closest place would be port of ira Um, they live on some like kind of rocky islands off that coast people don't live there, but They really have blue feet. They are crazy. They're so cute. Yeah, I love them Because you hear blue-footed boobie and you're what that's not a real thing. No, they are and they have blue feet Well, I think we have uh, we have fixed Well, not fixed but finalized the system that works best for streaming the audio into discord. So we can start We've mentioned it a few times, but we can start officially saying We have a stream of good day internet in the discord if you want to listen live The other thing is there's no delay That's true Is what we have found on In the pod fee dot com slash live So if you are a patron Uh Go to patreon.com slash dts. You can get your integration to discord from there The easiest way would just be to look for the post at the beginning of the month That welcome, you know to say thanks those usually have it in there There's another way to find it in your settings or you can just message me through patreon and I'll send you the the instructions Uh, and then once you're in discord, you go to the good day internet channel At 4 30 p.m. Eastern actually no for 15 p.m. Eastern Uh 115 p.m. Pacific and when we start recording good day internet, we'll start streaming into the discord Um an affinity towards photoshop on the ipad That's so long hold them together though A fully padded photoshop for the ipad. How about that? That's the same character count. I mean, that's fine It's probably not it's probably just at the edge of of of length That that's it. That's all we got. All right. Yeah, uh, I we can try we can go for it's kind of It's just when you have something that long it falls off on a lot of people's displays and you can't see iPad gets real photoshop Oh, that's better. That's snappy I don't like it. It doesn't have affinity in it, but that's okay. That's fine Run my point. It's okay. Tell me ipad affinity for photoshop. Does that work? There you go Oh It's a little of everything It doesn't actually make sense, but it gets By what is listen, we're not it, you know, some of our titles are The headline doesn't have to be accurate the headline just has to not fall fall out lie And has to be a clever enough to make somebody go. What's that mean? Hold on We talk on discord What'd you say? I said we could just say we talk in discord That would be technically meet all your Do you really? Okay Sometimes our headlines are straightforward, but they're usually Topical with a twist I would say yeah, you know, I mean unless it's Because a great headline is no good if nobody can read all the words sure. Yeah, it'd been really clever if you'd seen it I swear this is amazing And how do we all feel about uh things like a question mark in the title? I have always been pro Oh, yeah, I'm you know, you can over you do it There's a limit Well, I I've I had a debate with somebody who's who's Jeff Bezos and alien. No, that's not okay But I put used a question mark. I didn't say it was Folks question whether or not Bezos as an alien. Yeah. Yeah But uh, no, I was I was having a debate with a friend of mine who's very she's very um Into kind of like youtube seo and and has has has done a lot of research and she's oh Never have a question mark because it won't surface your stuff the same way that's like, you know That's a golden rule, but it's like well, but if somebody's subscribed to the show, you know, it's like we're not It's it's unlikely that they're you know doing google searches and we're hoping to sort of surface based on topics That's not really what we're doing Yeah, I'm not as worried with about seo with a podcast title. Yeah because of that Right, I'll teach you about seo tom Name your name your website after your feet Then make the title of your show your name spelled backwards. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay note to self got it got it Uh, what if I make my twitter name an unpronounceable inside joke for only myself in 1996? Also also considered high form. We should put together a tip list We should well. No, we should charge people a lot as consultants Hey, I actually pushed barred off an hour so that uh, I could be on the show So I'm gonna run and uh, listen to some chainsaws and stuff downstairs Well, that sounds nice Gainsaws are you cutting number? Well, I'm lying. It's actually some sort of weird saw that's cutting tile. So that's nice too Oh, it's a circular saw probably no, no, it's like this little wedge thing that goes Like cuts little gouges out of it to fit it around the molding crown molding and thing or not crown Sounds like a molding soft for tiles kind of yeah, but small. Anyway, I better go Always is feet people. It's a tile saw good to see you allison. Thanks for being on the show cut back soon Bye Now we can talk about allison. Yeah Finally no zilla Talk about I know that because she's explained that to me before but I always forget But I'm so I hear no zilla and I'm like, I don't know. It sounds like mozilla. You know, or it's no Silla Yes It's uh, it's the uh, it's god zilla's relative with the big news Well, it's allison backwards, which I didn't know for a long time much longer than I care to admit Me either but I but I do know it But then I I don't think about it because I'm just so used to the like ace detect You know, I'm I'm so used to it that I just It doesn't even register that it's not Like it might as well just say tom married to me Although I do when I spell it out Which I almost never do because slack just auto corrects everything auto completes everything But yeah, I was like is it the is the e and then that okay got it. So good work tom Keeping us sharp It's right year after year That's what it's about It's a misspelling and a failed Failed attempt to sign up for a five megabyte free web plan like I was 26 years old at the time and here it is still today kicking around Well, you're you're you've been loyal. You've been loyal to your 26 year old self You know, it's funny. I was on I was on mark stedman's podcast bit rate Which was really fun And he asked me like if you could tell yourself 10 years ago self something. What would you tell him? And I now that I'm thinking about it. I wish I would have said I would tell him to spell ace detect right The first time But you can check that out bit rate pod.com slash ace detect Is is the short url for my my episode that I did with mark or just look on twitter We were talking about it this morning, but very cool. It's gonna be my answer now. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I would tell myself to spell ace detect correctly And to think hard whether I really want that to be my username for the rest of my life So Well as the You know as A lot of our like I'm trying to remember what scott johnson used to be because I remember when he changed over to scott johnson On twitter from it was whatever. I think he was extra life. Yeah, that's right And I remember being like, wow, but I liked extra life Like I like the you know the fun handles even though I've always just been serilene because I don't have any fun handles And again, just like to keep it consistent But but I completely understand why it's sometimes problematic where you have to explain well on this But then on twitter i'm this name and then on this other service and this other name. It's good to have It's funny. I actually know know where I was when he changed his twitter handle Where were you? I was sitting in a sushi restaurant in kihai maui Okay That he had changed it It was one of the few times where I I was among the chorus of people annoying scott because I was like You've changed from extra life. I know. Yeah, because well, you get you just get used to It would be like if you became tom merit, which as we figured out with justin That's just a whole different person But I'd be like no, but ace detect is part of your identity Yeah Yeah, I don't know that I could ever change now Uh, I wouldn't you know, I was thinking about this because we talked about it You know the bot count yesterday one of the reasons I don't pay attention to the number Is that my number has always been behind other people because I have such a stupid username But I've always felt like the people who found me really wanted to follow me Because we were willing to find that silly name. And so I feel like I have a more valuable audience there Because of that. Well, there's probably some truth to that. Yeah, I mean that's my retroactive explanation for this stupid Anyway, it's my rest well every time somebody tweets at me And or tags me on instagram doesn't happen that often, but it does Meaning the belly dancer not me. I always just I'm all you know, I have to just sit on my hand So I don't type back like all you do is look at my profile and you know, it's the wrong sir But I don't because That's not helpful to anybody. I I am not mistaken for anyone other than bars bars Yeah, because you're jolly Roger Oh Got it. Got it. Got it. Oh, I had a wonderful weekend wine tasting at jolly roger's like, yeah, sure But you did There's a jolly roger uh motel near where I live and I think of you every time I pass it, which is yeah Whenever I go to see no, I walk past that. I know it's a valuable handle of eventually I don't know if it's a nice motel or not. I'm gonna guess it's not that nice but It looks okay. It looks okay. I always wonder how they can survive not being a chain and not being a residential hotel They must be good enough. It's a hotel not a motel. Oh here. It's a motel. Yeah, I mean it's it's it's the thing is is in venice There's like just weirdly no hotels. There are a couple motels There's the jolly roger and then there's like the kinny which is right next to it there's one on pacific and then it's like There's not really a lot of options. So I think the motels do well because it is a touristy area and people Yeah has uh Their staff speaks Armenian English Hebrew Japanese Persian Spanish and Tagalog Who the staff of who? Oh, really? Wow And they have all those uh international flags. So maybe that's the thing they've developed this Yeah, you're right. That's cool. That's cool Well, thanks to the video viewers for joining us. Uh, have a lovely weekend. We'll be back on Monday audio listeners stuck around There's more to come