 Thank you. Manny? Here. Mayer? Here. Montemayor? Here. Radke? Here. Sagali? Here. Stephan? Excuse. Susha? Here. And Vanderwill? Here. Thirteen present. Quorum is present. I'd ask that the Cub Scouts Troop 3804 please come forward and recite the Pledge of Allegiance for us. Do you want to take the microphone? Get a little closer. Come on, Morgan. I call the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. I can't do it. Put the front. Okay. Next we will have invocation by Reverend Julia Hollister of the First Congregational Church. The mic. Yes. Let us join in prayer. Gracious God, we gather with thankful and expectant and humble hearts on this night. We are thankful for all the leaders that are in this room. We give thanks for all the people who supported their campaigns, for those who worked hard to make sure that issues were addressed and that the desires and the concerns of the Sheboygan people were listened to. We gather with expectant hearts, excited by the potential for change that these individuals represent. We ask your blessing on our new mayor, Juan Perez, our new alder persons, Rene Susha, Humeir, Jeff Radke, Gene Davis, and Elden Berg. We pray for your blessing upon the returning common council members, Gene Kittleson, Dennis Bowman, Jim Groff, Marilyn Montemire, Dick Manny, Daniel Berg, Margaret Segali, Bonnie Serda, Bill Steffen, and Silas Vanderweal. As we give thanks for the work of the previous common council, we're also excited by the new ideas and fresh insights that accompany these new alder persons and mayor. Grant all of these leaders a sense of humility as they make decisions on behalf of the people of Sheboygan. Thanks God we gather tonight because we deeply care for the city of Sheboygan. We pray that the diverse people living here may join in their efforts to seek the common good of all. May each of us work in our own way to create a community where all have meaningful work, all have warm houses, safe streets, and food on their tables. We pray knowing that we are surrounded by your strong spirit and peaceful presence. Amen. Amen. Thank you. We are now ready to swear in our new city clerk, Susan Richards. Sue, repeat after me. Aye. Susan Richards. Aye. Susan Richards. Swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. Swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. And the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin. And the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin. And will faithfully and impartially. And will faithfully and impartially. Discharge the duties. Discharge the duties. Of the office of city clerk. Of the office of city clerk. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. So help me God. So help me God. And next the mayor elect will be sworn in by city clerk. Juan, will you raise your right hand please and repeat after me. Aye. Swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. Swear that I will support the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin. And the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin. And will faithfully and impartially. And will faithfully and impartially. Discharge the duties. Discharge the duties. Of the office of mayor. Of the office of mayor. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. So help me God. So help me God. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. I will now ask the ultimate elect to please step forward to be sworn in. I need you all to raise your right hand and repeat after me. I, State of the Union. I, United States of the Union. Swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. Swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States. And the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin. And the Constitution of the State of Wisconsin. And will faithfully and impartially. And will faithfully and impartially. Discharge the duties. Discharge the duties. Of the office of Alderperson. Of the office of Alderperson. To the best of my ability. To the best of my ability. So help me God. So help me God. Congratulations all of you. Next we will adopt the rules of the Common Council. Alderton Gough. Thank you Your Honor. I move that the rules which govern the preceding council be accepted as the rules of this Common Council. There's a motion to approve the rules. Is there a second? Second. There's a second. There's a discussion. If not, all those in favor state aye. Aye. Any oppose? Motion passes. This time we will have the election of president of the Common Council. And soon, I'm sorry. Alderton Gough. Thank you Your Honor. I would move that nominations BBC from the floor voting to be done by closed ballot and if more than two candidates are nominated, the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and validating to continue until one candidate receives a majority. This is the nominations for president of the council. There's a motion. Second. Second. Under discussion. Not all those in favor state aye. Aye. Any oppose? Motion carries. At this point I'd ask for nominations for the president of the Common Council, Alderman Cigali. I'd like to nominate Dan Burr for the president of the Common Council. Second. Motion is second to nominate Alderman Burr, president. Alderman Montemarra. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I would like to nominate Alderman James Graff for president of the council. I think he would do a marvelous job. There's a motion in the second to nominate Alderman Graff for president. Are there any other nominations? Alderman Graff. Who would the nomination sees? Move that nominations be closed. Second. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's time to vote. We'll cast a unanimous comment. Yep. All right. Trendy. Is there someone who didn't say anything? Yes. I'm sure you're not going to ask. Ready? Okay. The results of the election for president of the council, Alderman Graff, seven votes. Alderman Burr, six votes. Alderman Graff wins. Congratulations, Alderman Graff. Next we will have the election of the vice president of the Common Council. Alderman Graff. Your Honor, I moved that the nominations be received from the floor. Voting be done by closed ballot and if more than two candidates are nominated, the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and balloting to continue until one candidate receives the majority. This is for vice president of the council. There's a motion. Is there a second? Second. Any discussion? Not all in favor. State aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Alderman Manny. Thank you, Your Honor. Like to nominate Alden Burr from the first district. Second. Second. There's a motion and a second to nominate Alderman Burr. I nominate Bonnie Serda. Second. There's a motion and a second to nominate Bonnie Serda. Any discussion? Not all is in favor. State aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Alderman Graff. Your Honor, I moved that nominations be closed. There's a motion to seize nominations. There's a second. Any discussion? Not all is in favor. State aye. Aye. Motion carries. Tell them to sign your name in the background. Alderman, when you cast your vote, please make sure you sign your name. Ready? The results are for the position of Vice President of Council. Alden Burr's seven, Bonnie Serda's six. Alden Burr takes the position. Congratulations Alden Burr. Next we will elect the one representative to the city plan commission. Alderman Graff. Your Honor, I moved that nominations be received from the floor. Voting to be done by closed ballot and if more than two candidates are nominated, the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and balloting to continue until one candidate receives a majority. This is for city plan commission. Is there a second? Yes. Alder and Graff would need to be done by open ballot. Just the two council officers would be done by closed ballot the rest of the afternoon. Everything else is open? Okay. And I correct my motion to read open ballots that are closed. Okay. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Second. Any discussion? Not, all those in favor with that motion, please state aye. Aye. Any oppose? Motion carries. Alderman Sousha. Thank you. I'd like to nominate Alderman Montemayor for the position of a city plan commission. There's a motion and a second to nominate Alderman Montemayor. Alderman Graff, would you? If there aren't. Yes, it is. Alderman Bowen. Thank you, Your Honor. It's my pleasure to nominate Alderman Bonnie Serda as the council representative for city plan commission. Second. I'm not done. The plan commissioner, I believe she would listen to all sides of the issue at hand. She's not afraid to speak your opinion, nor is she afraid to ask questions before making any decisions regarding new business, signage, development, and the like. I got to know Bonnie more than a year ago while she was making her run for Alderman. She sat quietly in the gallery every meeting when she took her papers off her nomination and took notes, lots of notes. Then she went door to door as when I formed the issues on hand. She was elected as Alderperson for her effort and I feel she'd serve well and it's the council representative on the plan commission. And I hope this council will agree by casting her vote for Bonnie as the plan commissioner. There's a motion to nominate Alderman Serdas. Is there a second? Is there a second? Are there any other nominations? Alderman Grau? There are no other nominations. I moved into nominations to be closed. There's a second. Motion to second, close nominations. Any discussion? If not, all those in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. I'd like to ask the people in the hallway as much as I would like to have you enjoy yourselves tonight. We do need to maintain a little bit of quiet. We're having a little difficulty over here. Thank you very much. This is an open ballot. You can explain why we're doing this on paper. Turn it to a clean. To sign it. Procedure has been passed. That's precedent that we continue to write down. Thank you. We can announce though, as we go tally them who voted for the vote. Would you like that done, Alderman Berge? Alderman Berge, would you like to have the names read out loud afterwards? No. No, not in particular. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Do you want to read them? Okay. Do you want them read Alderman Berge? No. I'll pick a wild guess. I'll bet you do. No, you were backwards, but that's all right. Yeah. For the position on the city plan commission, Montemayor, seven votes, third to six, Alderman Montemayor. Congratulations, Alderman Montemayor. Next, we will elect one representative onto the board of contractors, examiners. Alderman Graf. Thank you, Your Honor. I move that nominations be received from the floor. Voting be done by open ballot. If more than two candidates are nominated, the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list. And balloting to continue until one candidate receives a majority. And this is for the board of contractors, examiners. Second. Second. Any discussion? Not all in favor, state aye. Any opposed? Ocean carries. Alderman Montemayor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I would like to nominate for the board of contractors, examiners, Alderman Jeff Ratke. Your second? Alderman Mahmoud. My apologies. Are there any other nominations? Alderman Graf. Your Honor, I would move that nominations be closed in the unanimous ballot be cast for Alderman Jeff Ratke for the board of contractors, examiners. Second. Motion is second. Any discussion? If not all in favor, state aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations. And finally, we will elect two, the council will elect two representatives on the Capital Improvements Commission. Alderman Graf. Thank you, Your Honor. I move that nominations be received from the floor. Voting be done by open ballot. If more than two candidates are nominated, the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and validating to continue until two candidates have received the majority of votes. This motion is second. Under discussion. Not all in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Alderman Sousa. Thank you. I would like to nominate Alderman Manny to the Capital Improvements Commission. Second. Motion is second. Are there any other nominations? Alderman Rettke. Thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to nominate Rene Sousa to the Board of the Capital Improvements Commission. We're doing both at the same time. Motion is second. Are there any other nominations? And if there are no other nominations, I would move that unanimous ballot be cast for both Rene Sousa and Richard Manny. For positions on the Capital Improvements Commission. Is there a second? Second. Any discussion? Not all those in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Congratulations. Now we are going to recess just briefly so that the council can elect a chairman of the Committee of the Whole. Alderman Graf? Motion to recess. All to recess. Is there a second? All those in favor, state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. We stand recessed. I will call the Committee of the Whole meeting to order and call the roll. Baumann? Here. Deberg? Here. Eberg? Here. Soda? Here. Davis? Here. Graf is here. Kettleson is excused. Manny? Here. Meyer? Here. Montemarro? Here. Radke? Here. Seagally? Here. Steffen is excused. Sousha? Here. Vandewheely? Here. Thirteen are present. Quorum is present. With that, I would entertain a motion that nominations for the position of Chairman of the Committee of the Whole be received from the floor. The voting be done by open ballot and if more than two candidates are nominated, the candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and validating to continue until one candidate receives the majority. It's been moved and seconded that the nominations be received from the floor and on open ballots. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Chair will vote aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Alderman Burr. I nominate Silas Vandewheely for Chairman of the Committee of the Whole. Marge? It's been moved and seconded to nominate Silas Vandewheely. Are there any other nominations? As chair, as chair I can, I will also make a nomination. At this time I'd like to put in the name of Marilyn Montemire as Chairman of the Committee of the Whole. And moved and seconded to include Marilyn Montemire in the run for Committee of the Whole chair person. Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? And I would entertain a motion that nominations be closed. It's been moved and seconded that nominations be closed. Seeing none, the discussion. Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. And I will vote aye. Committee of the Whole chair person were seven for Alderman Montemire and six for Alderman Vandewheely. Congratulations Alderman. I'll take a motion that we adjourn the Committee of the Whole meeting. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we adjourn the Committee of the Whole meeting. Is there any discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. I will vote aye. We stand adjourned. We convene shortly. We, I did a motion to reconvene the comment council meeting. Second. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. The motion carries. Alderman Berg, did you wish to speak, sir? The other, Alderman. Did you wish to speak? No. Okay, the light just probably stayed on from last time. Alderman Graf. Thank you, Your Honor. At this time I'd like to report that the chairman of the Committee of the Whole for the 2005, 2006 council year is Alderman Marilyn Montemire. Congratulations, Alderman Montemire. And I would ask that the president of the council, Alderman Graf, please address. The council. Yep, we'll get that on. I'll have to pardon the voice. I'll try and speak as loud as I can. And that's why mine isn't 10 pages like Alderman Baumann's was last night's. Good evening to our television audience, relatives and friends in the council chambers, department heads, the older persons, my wife Yolanda, the city clerk Sue Richards, city attorney, Steve McLean, and Mayor Juan Perez. Thank you to all the older persons for having the faith and trust in me to elect me to the position of president of the 2005, 2006 common council of the city of Sheboygan. I will do my best to make you proud of your selection. Congratulations now to our newly elected older persons, Alderman Berg, I should say, Alderman Dennis Baumann, Alderman Gene Kittleson who's not here, myself from the fourth district, and Alderman Ricky Meyer from the seventh. And then over in the second Alderman Renee Susha, Alderman Gene Davis, Alderman Jeff Radke, Alderman Marilyn Montemire. Congratulations to all you and you have your work cut out for you. Welcome back to all the other older persons to what looks like it's going to be a very interesting and challenging year ahead of us all. Congratulations also to Sue Richards, newly elected to her first full term as city clerk. And finally, congratulations to our new mayor, Juan Perez. Who accepted the challenge to lead the city and to keep Sheboygan moving forward in a fair, honest and equitable manner. I'm confident that Mayor Perez will change the way government does its business in the city of Sheboygan, and it will be what is best for the city of Sheboygan and its citizens. In order to accomplish this change, I'm asking the older persons to take a deep breath and step back and re-examine what we are all doing. I'm asking this of each and every one of us to work with the department heads, to examine all the details and the reports and to come up with our own conclusions and not just depend on possibly three or four other older persons to come up with suggestions that we are to follow. I will be asking the chairperson of the committee of the whole, all in Montemara, to schedule as many meetings as necessary so that we will all have the same information and all have participated in the same discussions in order that we will be able to make an informed decision on whatever topic we may be discussing. We also need to take into consideration the will of the people and make sure it's being heard. All older persons and citizens have a right to know what is going on in the city of Sheboygan and what we are discussing. Getting a second opinion on many things does not mean that we may have made a mistake, but that we may have received some new information and new facts that may show us the right thing to do. We need to revisit some issues and act on behalf of the taxpayers. If we wish to continue the legacy of the former mayor and council, we can do that or also we are here to develop a new and improved legacy of our own and we must learn to build consensus and to cooperate with each other. In the next several months, we will be taking votes on various issues that will be more than just a simple majority of the common council that's needed to pass some votes require two thirds, some votes require three fourths of a majority to pass. We must and we need to work together to accomplish these goals and pass these various documents. As a 2005, 2006 common council president, my message to each of you is to build a consensus, work together, share all information, have an open mind and do what is best for the city and citizens of Sheboygan. I ask you each to work with the mayor, department heads and each other in order to accomplish this our major goal and the rest will come easy. I look forward to working with you Alderman, Mayor Perez, excuse me, as well as all the department heads, the Alderman and the employees and this the 2005, 2006 common council and I ask for your support during this upcoming very exciting and challenging year. Thank you and God bless. Thank you Alderman Graf. At this point I'd ask Alderman Montemayor, chairman, committee of the whole to say a few words. Please. Well, if I stand on my tiptoes, can you see me? Alderman Graf, good message. I agree with everything you've said and you've laid some work on my shoulders and I accept this responsibility and thank you for the job of the committee of the whole chairmanship. I'll take this responsibility seriously. We as a council will use the committee of the whole to discuss issues, gather lots of information about challenges we face. We will be asking many questions and many questions will be asked of us. We need to listen and learn and ask anybody who has information to please help us. I look forward to a committee of the whole meeting soon. Thank you. And now I would like to say a few words to the people of Sheboygan and the common council. Good evening. Members of the common council, people of Sheboygan, city clerk through Richards, city attorney Steve McLean, friends and supporters. Tonight is a historic night. It is the beginning of a new era in municipal government for the city of Sheboygan. You wanted your voices to be heard and they will be. You wanted your government back and you shall have it. There may be other days in my life that I will remember as I remember tonight but it is not likely. My heart is filled with enormous pride. Humility, hope and gratitude for all that has led up to this night. As mayor I began my duties with high hopes, high energy and high expectations. My journey to this night has been long and challenging and invigorating. I thank you for electing me as your mayor. I thank you for your faith and my leadership and my commitment to serve you and represent your interest about all else. I want to thank my wife of 31 years, Sylvia, my son, Sebe, Rigo and Ethan for standing strong next to me. I want to thank my daughter-in-law, Sarah and my first grandson, Austin, for giving me another reason to want to make Sheboygan the best place to live and raise a family. Without the help of so many fine people, so many wonderful people during my campaign, I would not be here tonight, but I am here and a bright future awaits us and I cannot wait to start. The needs of our citizens will be our top priority. During my administration, the city of Sheboygan will be committed to you. You are our customer and we will provide you with the best services that meet your needs and exceeds your expectations. This administration will conduct itself with the highest integrity, openness, accountability and professionalism. We will treat everyone impartially, decently, respectfully and compassionately. We will strive to earn your respect and confidence by listening to you and making you our top priority. During the next several months, I will be working hard to fulfill some of my promises I made to you. I will begin the implementation of my budget prioritization program. We must come to grips with the financial struggles the city faces. The people have told us plainly and quite frequently that we must carefully balance the services they need with their ability to pay. This program should reveal the true expensive activity of the delivery of our services. We will be able to evaluate costs and track the efficiency of those services in order to make your tax dollar work harder and smarter. In the face of financial reality and constraints, I ask this common council to work with me, to look forcefully, honestly and with no obligation to any interest group but the taxpayer as we prepare for next year's budget. I will make the building of a new police station a priority, but it's not gonna get built on Sheridan Park. Yeah! I will do what is necessary to save Sheridan Park. In my mind, my heart and my soul, Sheridan Park will not be destroyed. Members of the common council, all in lieu, you heard the people speak and reach out to you during this last election. They spoke clearly to you again. Please be responsive. Don't continue to ignore them. I will promote legislation to reactivate the Parks and Forestry Commission. I will promote legislation to make it difficult, extremely difficult for a mayor or alderman to ever again attempt to destroy a park. I will put together a task force made up of city, county, school officials and citizens to begin charting the road we will take to realize a true cost saving potential of optimum shared services. We will begin building visionary partnerships with neighboring jurisdictions, the county and the school, based on trust and honesty. We can no longer afford to isolate ourselves. We must reach out to others if we are to succeed. I will work hard with the business community to chart our course to success in making our great city of Sheboygan not only the best place to live in, but also to visit. We shall welcome visitors with open arms and great amenities and we will also encourage everyone to stay. I know that control growth is vital to our community, but we must manage growth in a manner that is high quality, well planned and acceptable to our community. I ask our business leaders to work closely with me to make Sheboygan progressive and yet maintain some of that good old fashioned feeling that has made our community so attractive to many. And finally, as we move forward to promote and preserve the safety and quality of life of our citizens, I respectfully ask the Common Council and our city employees to embrace a spirit of teamwork and unite in public service to our community. I ask each alderman to demonstrate true commitment to their constituents, but to always remain mindful that your individual vote collectively impacts our entire community, not just your own district. We truly have been entrusted with great responsibility and we must answer the call of our duty with the entire community in mind, that our thoughts and actions reflect our total commitment to the people of Sheboygan. And as the psalmist once wrote, that your good spirit lead me on a level path. Thank you and God bless his beautiful city of ours. Mayor's appointments, Steve. I don't remember some council. I'm hereby submit. Oh, sorry. Hereby submit the following appointments for your consideration. Stephen Hemsing, to be considered for appointments to the architectural review board, filled the unexpired term of Gerald Jones, no longer on plan commission, whose term expires 430.07. Dale Feld, to be considered for change from alternate number one to full member of the Board of Appeals, term expiring 430.07. Pete Streizig, to be considered for change from alternate to full member of the Board of Contractors examiners, term expiring 430.06. Craig Cedar, to be considered for appointment to the Board of Contractors examiners, as alternate to fill the unexpired term of Michael Schrader, no longer city resident, whose term expires 430.06. Lee Montemayor, to be considered for appointment to the Board of Review, to fill the unexpired term of Jeff Manning, no longer city resident, whose term expires 430.06. Ed Gennaro, to be considered for appointment to the Board of Review, to fill the unexpired term of Eldenburg, whose term expires 430.07. Stephen Hemsing, to be considered for appointment to the Capital Improvements Commission, to fill the unexpired term of Gerald Jones, no longer planning commission member, whose term expires 430.07. David Gallienetti, to be considered for appointment to the Citizens Advisory Committee on Community Development, to fill the unexpired term of Eldenburg, whose term expires 430.06. Thomas Pineschi, to be considered for appointment to the Library Board, to fill the unexpired term of Joe Bonet, whose term expires 430.07. Signed by the Mayor. And we'll lie over. And to the honorable members of the council, hereby submit the following appointments for your consideration. These are to the Standing Committees, the Finance, Alderman James Groff, Chairman, Alderman Stefan, Vice Chairman, Alderman Montemire, Sushia and Davis, the Public Protection and Safety Committee, Alderman Rene Sushia, Chairman, Alderman Montemire, Vice Chairman, Alderman Radke, Meyer and Davis. Public Works Committee, Alderman Dennis Bauman as Chairman, Alderman Manny as Vice Chairman, Alderman Kittleson, Berg, that's Eldenburg, and the fifth position is from the Open Second History. Salary and Grievance Committee, Alderman Eldenburg, Chairman, Alderman Groff, Vice Chairman, Alderman Serta, Dan Berg, and the fifth position is open also, the Open Seat from the Second History. The Law and Licensing Committee, Alderman Richard Manny, Chairman, Alderman Radke, Vice Chairman, Alderman Vandewiel, Meyer and Sigali, signed by the Mayor. That will lie over. And the council, I believe, has copies of all of these. There's eight pages of appointments to the various boards, commissions, and authorities for the city, and those are submitted for consideration. That too will lie over. Thank you, Mr. McLean. Public Forum, Sue. Yes, on our public forum. First on the list is Frank Cooke-San. Okay, Sam come up here. Mr. Cooke-San, would you mind coming up to this microphone right here, please, for tonight? It'll take a little. We would appreciate it. Thank you, sir. And if you could give me when you have a chance, your address, please, Mr. Cooke-San. Certainly. 2829 Erie Avenue. And you will have five minutes, sir. Thank you. Because I only have five minutes, my congratulations to the new mayor, our new and returning Alderman, our city clerk must of course be brief. I do wish you all the blessings of good health and your deliberations, a clear mind, and a calm temperament, and a spirit of collegiality. And whether I agree or disagree with you, I do respect and admire you for the time you are willing to take out of your lives that can never be replaced to help manage this wonderful city of ours. So congratulations and thank you. I'm especially aware of the passage of time because tomorrow is my 62nd birthday. So I am here again to speak on the subject of building a police station at Sheridan Park. I'm here especially to respond to former Alderman Werner's comment yesterday that the Engberg report does quote, not pass muster of being an independent report. I'm not here to defend the Engberg report by rebutting the former Alderman Werner's assertion, but rather to focus upon the Kimme report itself and illuminate the kind of details that will motivate you to read that report with an open and analytical mind. I believe you would find the Kimme report does not quote, pass muster itself as a reliable document for this important decision. In fact, I believe that a close examination of the outcomes of the various selection criteria, I'll discuss that in a moment, that favored Sheridan Park over the Imperial Motel site will in fact support a position that favors the 23rd Street site over Sheridan Park. Exclamation point. Such inclusion is possible because now that the Imperial Motel site has been withdrawn from consideration, the selection criteria are turned topsy-turvy and the logical outcome is no longer a slam dunk that Sheridan Park must be the inevitable choice. I have enlarged the sheet in the Kimme report that has the evaluation criteria. They have all the sites listed. They have five categories as subdivided for a total of 21 criteria. Between Sheridan Park and the next site selection, the site which was Imperial Motel of the 21 criteria, they are tied on 10, excuse me, tied on 11 and evenly divided on 10. And the difference between the two is only 19 points. 19 points, 365 for Sheridan Park versus 346 for Imperial Motel. Of those 10 points were impact on the tax base and now that we're considering 23rd Street, that's not a consideration. Acquisition and development costs, another 10 points, that's not a consideration. Availability and readiness, that's not a consideration. 10 plus 10 plus eight, that's 28 points. All of a sudden, Sheridan Park isn't ahead. There are a whole raft of things. The cost of construction, which is disputed between the Kimme report and the Engboard report, and the Kimme report, it acknowledges it costs more to build a two-story structure than a one-story structure. And as of the report, which is about two years old now, it costs $3.31 more per square foot to build a two-story building. And at 47,000, 46,473 square feet, that's 154,750 dollars and 9 cents more to build a two-story building. Some other things. In favor of Sheridan, environmental impact because the contamination at the 23rd Street site. Well, there are no salt borings taken. So how can you consider that? That's another eight points. It goes on and on. One of the considerations that is a factor is land for onsite parking. And there, Sheridan Park had negative five points. And of course, 23rd Street offers much more of an opportunity. So what I'm saying is, if you examine this report analytically in the light of the fact that it's 23rd Street and not the Imperial Motel, you can't help but say, this has to be reevaluated. There is that impact on the tax base that counted so much and it's not gonna count anymore. A huge issue was the general acceptability and compatibility with neighbors. Please, please respect the wishes of your citizens. Mr. Cooke-San, I'm sorry, you're five minutes ahead. I had something to say about the appendix. I would like to ask for the council's gracious permission to continue, because there's something about the microwave tower, which is very significant. And that was a factor in the decision. Thank you. I had some other things to say, but I'll just cut to the chase when it comes to the microwave tower. There is an appendix to the committee report. I hope you read it. There's several pages that are just numbers, but there is the parts titled Site Analysis for Data and Radio Communication Requirements. The paragraph says, I'll read it verbatim. Well, there's two small omissions just to condense it. Data, radio and data communications are vital and each site of the sites that were considered must be analyzed for their ability to accommodate the connectivity of these systems. It will require data connections back to City Hall, plus the connection of the radio consoles to the county-wide radio system, which means they must ultimately terminate at the main radio site at Taylor Hill. All the sites will need antenna. It was brought up that the microwave site at Imperial Motel would cost $50,000. Well, it turns out, listen to this. Well, first, Sheridan Park. A communication tower would still be required for other point-to-point communications. You still have to build a tower. And regarding Imperial Motel, and I say this is also applicable to 23rd Street, and please let me read this in its entirety. The only option for this site may be a microwave system. And that goes on, interestingly enough. A fiber optic could be installed from this site to the fire department headquarters on 25th Street and then tied into the microwave system at this site, thereby eliminating the need for the fire department to have the T1 line that they currently have. Now, what is a T1 line? I had to ask my wife about this because she's working on a degree in technology. She says that's an institutional line connecting to the internet. And she says it costs about $1,000 a month. You could save $1,000 a month by tying the fire department with a fiber optic to the 23rd Street site and connected with the microwave system. Here's something also interesting. And with this, I'll conclude and thank everybody for the time and for your generous willingness to offer me this extra time. This arrangement could also help enhance the capability of the City County Emergency Operations Center and for the city's disaster contingence plan. In other words, the microwave tower, which was supposed to be such a liability is actually an asset. Thank you. Next on the list is Joseph Clark. Mr. Clark, would you please come up to the front, Mike? And Mr. Clark, can you give me your home address please? Certainly, 319 Michigan Avenue. And you will have five minutes. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, ladies and gentlemen of the 2005-2006 Common Council, congratulations to those newly elected and thank you to all of you for giving your time to serve the citizens of Sheboygan. Last night in a very interesting civics lesson, the former Common Council voted to file the Engberg-Moyer report on the police station and comment was made that the report may be brought back. We are all aware that in a high-profile court case, expert witnesses can be found to argue for each side of the case. Emotions run high and it's easy to make a decision based on emotion or politics and then to cling to the report of the expert that supports one's own cause while labeling the other side as biased. That seems to me to be what is happening now. Any subsequent discussion brings with it an agenda. How then to proceed fairly? Let me state at the onset that I'm not affiliated with Zimmerman Design Group. I'm not currently involved in this process in any official capacity, merely a concerned citizen of Sheboygan. However, I was the project manager for the Steubenrock Architects who oversaw the City Hall half of the 2002 Steubenrock Kimmy study and coordinated closely with Kimmy Associates as they developed the police station component. I'll be the first to point out that I'm not an expert on police facilities. I did, however, have a front row seat to the meticulous process that Kimmy used to evaluate the sites in question. I would encourage you to reexamine the original Kimmy reports prepared prior to this issue becoming divisive. Please do not let other people, myself included, tell you what these reports say or do not say. Please read them both and the Kimmy review of the 23rd Street site for yourselves. And I would be happy to answer any questions I can. As you investigate the facts in order to make your decisions, I would point out that there are many statements circulating which I consider to be flat out wrong or at least misleading. Two brief examples. First, a larger site allows more room for expansion. This seems to be logical. However, I don't find it to be true. If you have a larger site but are filling it to 100% of its capacity with a single-story building and parking, you have no room for expansion. Similarly, if you have a smaller sloped site and fill it to, say, 80% with parking and a two-story building and then wish to maintain the remaining 20% as park, you again have no room for expansion. In each case, you're gonna be looking for additional land for future expansion. And that's a key point. Future expansion. The Kimme study looked at demographic trends and allowed for growth for the next 20 years. I assume that the Zimmerman design is also allowing for foreseeable growth. So the question becomes, in 20 years, land adjacent to which site will be more affordable and which land will better serve the tax rolls? Second, you get more building for your dollar on a single-level site. As a general point, this is correct. In this instance, I find it misleading. Kimme based their cost estimates on the industry standard RS means historical cost data. The difference in base construction cost between the one-story and two-story approaches showed that, all else being equal, you will see about a $394,000 savings for building the single-story approach. Keep in mind that much of that savings is lost if you introduce even a partial basement or second floor at 23rd Street. But that's not the whole picture. All else is not equal. Utility costs were found to be approximately $100,000 more expensive at 23rd Street. The cost of a communications antenna required an additional $200,000. There were also costs associated with the county's salt shed, resulting in the two site costs being just about balanced without even addressing the concerns of the filled-in drainage ditch running through the 23rd Street site or lower operational costs associated with a more compact two-story building or, most importantly, the site acquisition costs for the 23rd Street site. What you are left with is an equation where, for comparably designed buildings, the Sheridan Park site will be less expensive than the 23rd Street site by, at minimum, the acquisition costs of the 23rd Street site. In conclusion, these seem to be the relevant questions. What is the current cost to purchase the county land? How much of a premium are we willing to pay in order to keep Sheridan Park? Your five minutes are up. Move to a lot of extra time for this one here. Second. Motion to second. Thank you. I will be brief. The floor is on the table if you're all right. Hi. Can you call? Just continue, sir. Thank you. And finally, are we in a financial position to be able to pay for that premium, even if we want to? Regardless of where the new police station is located, please keep the process moving as quickly as possible. The current facility is an accident waiting to happen, and it's a credit to the department that they have used it so well. Good luck to all of you, and thank you very much. Next on our list is Scott Lewanduski. Scott, could you please come up to the front, Mike? Scott, I would need your home address, please. Okay, it's 2201 Erie Avenue. And you will have five minutes. Okay. First of all, I want to congratulate the new mayor and new city clerk and the new members of the Common Council and also the members of the Common Council who have been reelected. This even includes my opponent in the election, Dennis Bauman. I wish all of you the best of success, and I hope that the people of Sheboygan support you. And best way to get the citizens of Sheboygan to support you is to listen to them. Most members of the previous Common Council showed the people of Sheboygan that they wouldn't listen to the citizens of Sheboygan. Most members of the previous Common Council told the citizens of Sheboygan, we don't care what you have to say. This was shown by throwing in the garbage, filing a petition with over 3,000 signatures of Sheboygan citizens, requesting a referendum on Sheridan Park. Then last night, the same Common Council voted to throw in the garbage a report by Sheboygan business leaders and showing these business leaders that the Common Council is not willing to work with them. One reason given by Alderman Berg was that the report was biased. Who is biased when the Common Council won't even look at this report or allow the new Common Council to look at it? Your actions speak louder than words. I do not wanna see history repeat itself in destroying a park. In 1920, there was another park on 14th Street in Sheboygan, Born's Park. Born's Park was considered one of the beauty spots in Wisconsin with people coming from as far away as New York State and Washington State. The owner was Charles Born and he wanted to sell his park to the city. Born was a former police chief, Alderman and four-time mayor of Sheboygan. The people of Sheboygan wanted the city to buy the park and in 1920, signed petitions to have this purchase put to a referendum. The petitions were ignored by the mayor and Common Council. Various people tried until 1927 to get the city to buy the park. Finally, in the spring of 1927, the park was destroyed when the trees were all cut down, the land leveled off and houses were built on the former park grounds which were located between 14th and 15th Streets, Michigan and St. Clair Avenue. In 1928, which was the first election after the park was destroyed, eight Aldermen were eligible for reelection. Six ran for reelection. The day after the election in what the Sheboygan press called surprising because of how rare it happens, four of the six incumbents lost their bid for reelection. Some of you in this room tonight are in favor of destroying another park on 14th Street and you re-face reelection 50 weeks from tonight. Three of the biggest supporters to destroy Sheridan Park were defeated two weeks ago because they did not listen to the citizens of Sheboygan. Will you be next? Some members of the previous Common Council claimed that the Sheridan Park site would save money. The Anberg Report did not back this up so that report was thrown into garbage. How much money will the Sheridan Park site save for the police station? The cost of building off site a separate evidence storage unit and staffing it was not mentioned, nor was the cost of travel, time and gas between these two sites mentioned. There is no one in the city that I have talked to that is not in support of a new police station but the majority of the people on Sheridan Park saved and the police station located on 23rd Street. Listen to the people and save Sheridan Park as a park in order to do a good job and do what is best for the city and future of Sheboygan you must have the support of the people. We must all work together. United we stand divided we fall. We must unite to build a police station at the 23rd Street site. Show the people of Sheboygan that you are listening to them. When you ignore us, the people of Sheboygan, the common council is telling us that you have no respect for the citizens of Sheboygan. That's all I have. And last on our list is Mark Summer. Mark, could you please come up to the mic? Mark, would you give me your home address please? Yeah, so it's 523 South 14th Street. And you will have five minutes. Congratulations to the new mayor and the council. I would like to express my sincere thanks to the mayor and the common council, the city plan commission and the development and planning department of the city of Sheboygan for their recent position on the ethanol plant. Also, I'd like to thank the city clerk's office for the ease in obtaining public records. It does indeed show citizens and government can work together. Thank you again. Resolutions introduced, 1-1. Alderman Graf. You and I would move that that resolution be put upon its passage and it's to reactivate various special committees for the 2005-2006 council year. Your second. Under discussion. Alderman Byrd. Yes, thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to have an amendment to remove the special arena committee from that list in as much as that is reconstituted by your committee appointment as the, I can find it here, the marina and harbor commission. So I would move to amend the special marina committee entry to the marina and harbor committee. There's a motion to amend in a second. All those in favor of the motion? I mean, I state aye. Any opposed? Alderman Graf. Then, Your Honor, as amended, I would move that that resolution be put upon its passage. Your second. Motion to second. Put the resolution upon its passage. Under discussion. Not all those in favor, state? State aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. One, two, one, three will lie over. One, four, to one, six to be referred. Other matters, Steve? All those cities, Oregon police facility, its impact upon shared law enforcement service potential and site considerations and associated costs. That will be referred to building use. Thank you. Anything else? Excuse me. Before we adjourn, I would just like to make an announcement, a couple of announcements, three announcements. I would ask that any interested party that would like to be considered for the vacancy of the Aldermanic seat of the second district, which I vacated, to please submit a letter of interest. It would help if you would attach a resume or some type of bio to that letter of interest. And please submit it to city clerk Sue Richards, no later than Friday, April 29th. Anyone who is interested in being considered for that position. I would also just briefly just thank Lee Montemayor folks. I got my own engraved gavel tonight. Pretty awesome. And finally, please join us for finger food and light refreshments in the third floor conference room. And I would like to add that all those refreshments and food were donated by supporters and friends. There's no tax money being used to pay for those. Is there a second? Stand adjourned.