 I'd like to call to order the meeting of the committee the whole tonight for a Monday, June 9th Roll call, please We'll now recite the pleasure of legions All right Well, it's my pleasure to introduce to the city and to the council as a whole our new director of finance Terry Hanson Today is day one for director Hanson like to welcome him and his family to the city of Sheboygan And invite him to come up and say a few words Hello Alderman. I appreciate this opportunity to be of service for the city of Sheboygan Sorry, I almost slipped up with my old city there and I met a lot of people today and and everybody was extremely friendly and Encourteous, so you should take great pride in the people that are servicing Sheboygan and it's a great community I've just got here last night But I look forward to my first week and and can't wait to get the family into town So I think all of you and I look forward to working with you and and hopefully We'll have many many many years of service ahead of us. So thank you great and moving down the agenda number five a Multimedia presentation by the wellness committee This is to be up to 60 minutes including a question and answer period on various wellness programs Including but not limited to the wellness program presentation All the person kiddlesome, please Well, good evening everyone. Thank you Chairman Bauch and all the Alderman for being here Everyone in the audience and everyone watching at home We're so happy to be here this evening to allow our wellness committee to port to report to you three things We have we'd like to give you first a brief overview of what our committee has accomplished during the past six months That we've been in existence and then we have two presentations by our good friends at the county and a Summary of bike and walk to work week that took place mate 10th through the 16th and Then a presentation with a question and answer time at the end regarding an exciting health program That has been so generously offered to us here at the city through our insurance carrier And one that our wellness committee is very very excited about as well So who are we let's begin back on December 3rd 2007 the Common Council passed a resolution Whereas the city of Sheboygan has entered into a high deductible health insurance plan for 2008 and 9 and as part of that plan We will offer a wellness program So wellness program. What does that mean that can mean different things to different people? It can mean being proactive rather than reactive to one's own health care It can be just a little change in attitude a little different way of looking at things It can mean walking rather somewhere rather than taking a car riding your bicycle more becoming more active on a regular basis and of course each person's wellness style is very unique and different and of course is Left up to the discretion of each individual always on a voluntary basis the following week December 7th the wellness committee was formed and these are the key people that our city employees can feel free to Contact when they are looking for information regarding plans and initiatives when it comes to our wellness programs I just like to introduce a few that are here in the audience. We have Mark Zephas Representing the library our Mead library. We have Marion health Senior Center the activities coordinator there Susan Hart human resources We have Pat Dugan representing the DPW and Who else Alderman Jim Gisha is on our wellness committee as well and we have lieutenant Mike Williams He's the vice chair of the committee and I of course am your chairman and Nancy bus from finance She's in back there as well. We appreciate all their help and and coming to the meetings It's just it's just so important that they that they be there We can't began meeting and working on a weekly basis to establish a mission statement a value Statement and a vision which you see up in front here and the main focus of those three things Being to promote good health and wellness among our family of city workers So committee members then contacted several companies in and out of the city who already have established well wellness programs in place And we came to the consensus that most companies gave rave reviews to an organization called well coa Or the wellness council of America and it gives out lots of wonderful information on wellness Especially if the people have the ambition and the drive to work on the seven benchmarks that can gain the status of a well City it is a very prestigious award given out by our state government and our committee is working on that Initiative as well Our committee then crafted a letter Communicating wellness awareness to all city employees and with some very wonderful press coverage We held our employee appreciation day on Friday, March 7th Compliments of st. Nicholas hospital apples and bottled water were given out to all city employees alderman Gisha, and I had our picture in the paper. We're very grateful for that I think our employees appreciated it as well and then our friends from Aurora continued to educate us for the next seven Weeks by setting up displays throughout various locations in the city with names like portion distortion Rethink your drink. There was a food pyramid a calcium display label reading I'm sure many of you saw those wonderful displays It just made you stop and think about some of these things that we oftentimes take for granted Just a little way of maybe looking at things changing our thinking about how we approach our own wellness Our next big activity that we participated in and I know how much I enjoyed it And I know many others did as well was the bike and walk to work week that was held mace may 10th through the 16th This week was designed to get everyone thinking about their mode of transportation to and from work and Ultimately getting people out of their cars and on their feet or on their bicycle What really made the week special is that the city the county and the shabuagan area school district took up several Challenges with one another and as I said earlier, we have Erin and Mary They'll be here to present some awards to us this evening But before I write on the heels of bike and walk to work week came the let's get physical shabuagan County Challenge and that took place on Wednesday, May 21st a total of 22 companies including the city of shabuagan participated in this activity as well We needed to do at least 20 minutes of exercise sometime Before work during the noon hour or after work. I'm proud to say that we had a hundred and eighteen people all city workers Participate for a total of five thousand five hundred forty five minutes of activity almost twenty one percent participation Next year's event will take place on Wednesday, May 20th So we have a whole year to get ready to communicate the information out to all our employees and prepare for an even bigger event With greater participation So that brings us to right here and now I'd like to introduce Erin Brault and Mary Ebbling and they work with the non-motorized Transportation program at the county The two of them were instrumental in planning the events that took place throughout the week And they will give us a recap and do some presentations So I will let Erin and Mary. Hi everybody. Um, I guess first of all We don't really have much of a formal presentation for you tonight We just want to let you all know how excited we were to go toe-to-toe with the city in the school district and lose but But but really the great thing was the participation I mean as the the non-motorized pilot program manager, I don't care who's biking and walking to work I want the most people biking to walk what I care about is that as many as possible are biking and walking to work Not where they actually are employed so Congratulations to you guys and a brief history before I turn it over to Erin We did a little digging and I guess the first bike to work week ever was in 1956 and do you remember what city it was in? League of American cyclists did it in Washington DC. I believe okay, and then it was a little quiet for a while and Over the last decade or so. It's really been building momentum in Wisconsin as well as nationwide the obvious Cities that you would expect to do to spearhead an initial bike to work week or Madison and then Milwaukee but recently some of the smaller municipalities and I would say the really cool municipalities like Sheboygan have started in on their bike and walk to work week and so we've joined La Crosse. I think Ashland has done one. I'm not totally certain of that But sheboygan did a really great one where we got a huge amount of mode shift Some of the the Sheboygan presses online poll showed close to 20 percent of people who respondents saying yes I'll either do it for the whole week or Only when the weather is good But still I'm going to give it a try and those types of efforts lead to change and how people make their life decisions so That's my brief Sure, we're just gonna bounce back and forth a little bit some of what the results were of the week Like we said, oh, I'm sorry Like we said, it was the city the Originally the school district challenged the county and we in turn as at the county challenged the city into who could log the most miles As an entity and then we to make it fair because each entity had different amounts of employees We divided by the total number of employees. So The city one They had they the city employees logged about five hundred and thirty five miles over the course of the week And you have about five hundred and sixty five employees. So that turns out to be a ratio of point nine four the county logged 851 miles and we have roughly nine hundred and sixty employees. So that came to a ratio of point eight eight the school district has 15 hundred and sixty employees and they logged 1,117 miles and that comes to a ratio of point seven three so Looking at the number of folks who participated to congrats to the city You had the highest percentage of your employees participate as well. You had about eight percent of your employees participate Which is a great number. You may say eight percent. That's not a lot on a daily average nationwide About two to three percent of people are biking and walking to work So, you know, that's five six times or six percentage points better than what the national average is. So With that said we had four individual awards as well on top of the Most mileage tracked by an entity. We had the longest commute award by a biker longest commute award by a walker Most mileage by a biker and most mileage by a walker We had a city of Sheboygan employee Caroline for time for Fortin Track the most mileage by a walker at 30 miles over the course of a week Two county employees one awards one was Jane Dragon. She logged 12 miles walking to work one day She actually took a half day of personal time and walked in from Howard's Grove so our Department head maintenance department had logged over a hundred and forty two miles biking throughout the week He lives south of Usberg and biked in five days and biked home five days. So and then we had The longest commute went to a school district employee. So they weren't entirely left out of the out of the deal Brian Hendrickson is a Sheboygan south science teacher, I believe and he commuted 35 miles Was his or 17 so round trip 17 each way so 34 miles total so as a round trip commute So I guess we have an award for Carolyn each of the individuals received an award the We have a bike Shop donation from Johnny's Bicycle Shop So you get $25 from Johnny's bike shop and then all of you on 8th Street Donated a party. I guess that's a place where you can go make candle candles and face soaps and whatnot They are you get a party for 8 to 12 of your friends and they cater in some wine and hors d'oeuvres by Margot. So And then I guess the entity we had a Sheboygan south Shop class the metals class Joseph Janicek's class create a traveling trophy for us We figure that this isn't going to be a this isn't going to be a one-time thing each year We'll do this challenge from here on out and this is the trophy and this is your trophy to keep for the at least the next year so There's going to be a plaque on here that says the city of Sheboygan won this year and then The county will do their best to to take it back next year But I've heard that y'all are already beefing up your numbers Participation so we've got our work cut out for us, and that's a good thing Here we need to let everyone know that the trophy was designed by our own lieutenant Williams here, so That's very good, and we will have some bars put on it at And so that we can go back and forth with it with each year So the challenges we're on so we expect this to be displayed prominently in city We will This is something that you're trying to change behavior and it's it's fun to do and it's fun to have this Participation, and I think it's better really good time for everybody, and I hope that folks who walked and biked over that week We'll continue to do so Just one one last thing Thanks for all your guys support in passing resolutions for projects like Taylor Drive bike lane striping Bike racks and so great job. Thank you appreciate it second third and fourth Well, I'd like to just take a minute to thank all the person Kittleson and her committee and the team for putting this together I know my company struggles with how to get our employees to participate in our wellness programs more I think every company in the county is doing that so kudos to your organization for for coming up with programs And the reason we're televising tonight is to get the word out to the citizens that our city employees did Because we this health program is new and we did ask our city employees to do something new Which is participating in this wellness program in order to bring down our insurance rates and save the city and the taxpayers money And so we just want to make sure that the word gets out that they are our participating and they're doing a lot of their part Thanks to the programs you're putting together Very much. Thanks. It's a it's a whole group effort and as I said our wellness committing is as committee is doing a fantastic job so thank you and I guess where are we going next and that brings us to the exciting plans we have for the future our Wellness committee feels that the following program is a wonderful opportunity being offered to our city And we're just so very anxious for the rest of you to hear about it So I'd like to turn the program over to Terry Olivier and her team Susan Myers Katie Ann Houser and Eric Serrano And they're going to tell us all about the program Good evening, and thank you very much We appreciate the opportunity from humanist perspective to hold them To visit with you this evening and tell you about an exciting program that we are thrilled to be offering the city of Sheboygan and We'll have just a momentary Our guests will be doing a moment of stand-up while we get to you pause now for I'll tell you what I'm going to pass this to you guys because we're going to pass it to the audience in a few minutes That's my go zone and it's a pedometer with the brain There we go, okay great So it's exciting to hear all the great things you are already doing here in the city of Sheboygan and in the county in the school district around activity and wellness and As Humana would like to help support that effort We're thrilled to tonight to offer you a program called virgin health miles and to tell you a little bit more about it My friend Katie slash Vanna is going to give the first slide So we'll go through the first the five W's of health miles and what is it well Basically, it's going to fit in nicely with all the wonderful things. You're already doing It's a health rewards program that Incentivizes and rewards you for getting active so while we had some great reward winners tonight Everyone wins with health miles and so it gets more people active and enjoying the program Who will it be offered to it will be offered to all city employees as well as their adult dependence age 18 and older and Then all retirees and their spouses and most importantly now equally important The older persons will also be able to enjoy the program as well So it's a widespread effort to get everybody actually continuing to do the wonderful things you're already doing in terms of getting active When are we going to introduce the program? It will be introduced in July July 30th has been set as the launch date and Then we will be actually rolling it out online But you can certainly if you don't have a computer at home or work you can go to the Sheboygan library Wonderful support that we're getting there that you'll be able to go and actually access your account there as well And why are we doing this well because we can all use a little more activity The you know surgeon general tells us five days a week at least 30 minutes a day of moderate activity would be great And so this is a way of doing some of that activity and getting rewarded for it Thank you So what are the components of the health miles program the first component is the actual website where you as a member will Have your individual page that you'll be able to go online and track and see your activity Upload your steps and the go zone. Let's see. Is it passing around? We're gonna get to that in just a minute. Oh, thank you There we go So you'll be able to upload your activity both online in terms of if you did weight-bearing Exercises and I was joking this today My my purse was so heavy with my computer that I was carrying it like this doing weight-bearing I'm gonna go home tonight and log it that I got that exercise, but We also have the goes in pedometer, which is passing around now This is a pedometer with a brain and it automatically uploads to my personal page the steps that I take in a day Now I don't have to log it tonight. It'll actually hold about ten days worth of steps It knows exactly when I take those steps if you press the button to the right, excuse me the left I'm always dyslexic on that on the left It'll show you the mileage the calories burned the time of day and it knows exactly when those steps are taken and it Will chart them for me so I can kind of see month over month day over day what I'm doing in my activity We're gonna give the first 30% of the folks that join the program here in Sheboygan a free go zone pedometer Those that join after the first 30% will need to make a little bigger investment They'll need to purchase one if they'd like to get their steps counted It's gonna be 2499 plus tax But we're hoping that we're gonna have 30% of the folks join right away and get a great go zone and get active And then finally the desktop health zone is the last piece you're seeing there That is a really neat device and Humana will be donating two of those to the city of Sheboygan These will plug into your computers And I think we are going to have one that will be in the library that folks can use on a regular basis whenever the library is Open to get their measurements and then there'll be one that'll kind of float around from the different departments So people will have access to that and you may think well Why would I want to get my weight my body fat and my blood pressure taken on a regular basis? Well the reason why is because you're gonna get rewarded even if it says ooh your little hypertensive today Oh, you need you'll still get rewarded just for taking your measurements because that's a very core thing to know Where are you and then certainly if you've improved or you're in the ideal range already? Then you get rewarded on top of that so you've taken your measurements And then you're in the range you need to be or you've improved you'll get additional reward points And I keep talking about rewards and you're probably what is she talking about well health miles actually pays you health Cash and just like a frequent flyer club when you hit platinum you get additional bonus rewards Well, we have levels in the health miles program and when you hit those levels you get cash health cash that you can spend now you can Go with the hundred and fifty dollar reward program Which is what? Humana will be purchasing or providing to the city of Sheboygan employees where you can say you know I'm I want to invest in myself a little bit more and you can actually Go ahead and pay six ninety nine a month on your credit card and actually get five hundred dollars in rewards So if you'd like you can go with a hundred fifty dollar reward program, and I apologize I'm right in your way that's included or you can upgrade to the five hundred dollar reward program You will need to do that within the first sixty days as you can see their level So you can't wait till you're just about to hit level four and then say you know for six ninety nine That's a much better investment you have to make that decision early on in the program But it's a great decision because you're investing in your health and we all know that's very important now What do you do with this money you can spend it at about 40 different retailers and they range from Home Depot Lowe's Best Buy Target the Ritz Carlton There is a bunch of different great retailers that you can use that money And basically you'll go online and you will say I want $25 at Lowe's and I need 25 at Best Buy And those credit cards will come right to your address or whatever address you can send them to your mom your brother You can have that code wherever you like that money to be spent. It's yours to have it spent So those are the rewards Now you guys are already into the challenge mode, which is fantastic But health miles realizes you need to challenge people throughout the year and give them opportunities to have fun So there'll be two challenges that will be just City of Sheboygan employees and participants in this program And you'll be able to sign up for teams as well as individuals and it will be based on how many steps You get on your go-zone in a it's generally a six-week time period and the team with the most steps and the Individuals with the most steps just like we had this evening will have the opportunity to win additional health cash and rewards Now you also have the chance to do challenges yourself So the alderman could have a challenge among yourselves. You could challenge the city staff You know all kinds of fun now the personal challenges that you set out maybe yourself and Individual or teams or departments you'll be able to put up the prize for those Virgin won't pay for those prizes, but you can still have a lot of fun and it can be just for bragging rights If you'd like there are also two quest events of a year So right now we're in the middle of a quest opportunity It's the Napa Valley wine tour where every time you get a hundred miles And I need to tell you miles are not literal miles like you guys did wow that was great But no miles in this program are actually points We use the words interchangeable and every time you get a hundred points or a hundred miles for the Napa Valley wine trip That's going on right now You have a chance to win and I think Katie's gonna win because she actually got 22,000 steps this weekend So So it's all about engaging and what can we do to get more active So that's just one of the components of the program is the competition Whether it's across the whole platform of people participating in health miles or just city of Sheboygan employees or just two co-workers That want to challenge each other. Thank you now from your perspective You'll be able to see reporting and of course, it'll all be HIPAA friendly But you'll be able to see how many people are participating in this program Are we seeing any results in terms of our hypertensive folks that are in the program seeing? Improvements and you'll have a lot of great data that you'll be able to see on a regular basis Next slide and I want to share with you some of the data that we've seen at Humana We've been on the program just over about a year with our 22,000 employees We've had 29% of our population and I should back up our population about 30% of our employees are on this program On a regular basis doing activity 29% move from doing less than five days of activity Of 30 minutes or more a day Have moved from no activity to being active. So they're doing regular activity on a big on a regular basis 25% of the folks that were either hypertensive or pre-hypertensive have gone down one full range We've seen 14% of the folks that were above average in body fat go down to the normal range 9% of the obese and overweight folks have moved down at least one full BMI category So these are outstanding results that we're seeing in the program and we believe will make a big difference in medical expenses And that's one of the things right now at Humana We're taking our data and we're crunching the numbers to see what are the actual results And we'll be really excited to share that data with you when we see it the last two Points the 20% seeing fewer illness and injuries in the last 30 days and 17% with fewer days impacted by health Health impacting their work that is self-reported data So as part of the program you'll take an inventory we call to health snapshot and one year later folks participating in the program reported some really exciting data about how personally they were feeling after participating in health miles When we first launched this program with virgin health miles two years ago We were talking to employers about it And we didn't have it was the first time it had ever been introduced in the US and folks were like well How do we know that the folks that aren't always exercising already are going to be the only participants and We didn't know but we hoped that it would be something that would reach out to the general population And in fact that's exactly what we're seeing and folks that are overweight or obese Which is about 60% of the population in the US today Those are the folks that are on this program So 60% of our health miles participants are overweight or obese and that's exactly who is attracted to this program So we're very excited about what that can mean. So what does that mean for all of you all we're on a walk We're on a journey and we want you to join us with health miles each day We upload about a hundred million steps goes on steps across folks participating in health miles Which is the equivalent of walking around the world twice every day, and we want you to join us on that journey When I didn't talk about the communication campaign Sorry Okay, there's lots of communication that helps you on that journey So you know exactly what is happening the first three Pieces over there are the ready-set-go campaign that happens prior to the launch of health miles and allows you to find out What's the program going to entail and what are the opportunities and then monthly you get the newsletter as well as an Individual statement of all the activity that you've done and you'll get messaging and things if you like to swim They'll tell you about swimming the go-zone by the way does not swim So if you use if you're a swimmer you need to just go online and log that you swim and get your miles that way The go-zone will bubble up. So thank you. I think there might be and theirs are going around the world Questions Are there any questions Are there any questions, please? I Absolutely, yes, it's very HIPAA friendly exactly So if there's a department that has less than 20 participants, it will be aggregated over to another with another department So that you always see grouping of 20 participants or more. Thank you. That's a great point Personal information or results given to the same correct correct, right? Absolutely Great question. Thank you, Mr. Chairman Can I get credit for miles if I ride like a Schwinn aerodiner an exercise bike to those to those? Miles count that you do an exercise bike You'll want to put the go-zone on your shoe because that gets the mileage and also if you have a polar heart rate monitor That you use that is a brand new tool that they are using in the program So basically you upload your miles through the polar website and you'll get miles credit for that as well. Thank you great question And what's the connect for those that aren't familiar with the virgin brand why what is the connection to the virgin brand? This is one of Richard Branson's 200 Branded companies so he is a great entrepreneur He looks at areas in our society that might be a little not so working so well and health care Certainly one of those that he feels he can make an impact and wellness as well And so he has come up. He actually named the product I think yeah, there we go. Thank you Chairman Buck Another question that I you know, I'm just kind of anticipating from a wellness committee standpoint We always wanted to from the beginning We wanted the aldermen included in this this is not a financial benefit to the aldermen or any that kind of stuff It's It keeps our eye on the ball I think we felt if we can get the more of all of us to participate we can understand What our what our family of employees are doing as well? So it's kind of a we're all in this together type of thing, so I I hope I know the committee does too that that we all take advantage of this And and jump on board because Because we are all in it together, you know that The benefits are both personal for my health standpoint, which these nice folks have introduced but The benefit is also financial not just to the city and overall cost reductions, but individuals as people are their percentage of How much they're paying of their insurance premiums are going up? And that is the future and we all kind of know it and everybody's has been talking about it If it'll help us keep those From rising faster or your out-of-pocket expenses smaller. So we are all in it together. That's why I'm hoping that aldermen jump on board too and Get one of the 30 percent of the health zones because we're too cheap to Buy one for 25 buck, but if we had to it's a great idea anyway, you'll be the leaders You'll be joining first. So you'll get your go. That's a good spin on it Exactly and plus we'd love to have a challenge where we can see your results You know which aldermen are getting the most stuff, but we don't have to do that Yes, thank you chairman. Um, I and I know we are looking at a launch date for for the entire city July 30th is is our goal in the roca room of the mead public library. So we want to do a day long Launch that day for everyone, but I think we're going to try and get our aldermen and our committee As pace setters we'd like to launch them first And so we'll be letting you know just exactly where as I said our committee meets every friday We're working out the plans for all of this and then we will be doing a ready set go Campaign on this for everyone, but as I said pace setters for the aldermen and the wellness committee Looking around july 2nd or somewhere around that time. So stay tuned keep Keep your eyes and ears open because we will be communicating via city email and To let you know just what's happening with all of it and bulletin boards to whatever we can And there were two sheets that were given out one just kind of gives you the A little bit more about the health miles program. The other shows you what the desktop health zone unit looks like a little bit better than the slide did Is the delivery for this program always going to be a health care or Health insurance organization, or is there a time where this could just be popular? I imagine with richard branson running it. Is this something where someday Any citizen could come down to the library on a given day and say i want to pay my $6.99 a month And i want to pay my $24 and i want to be able to do this Actually, there is a model that we can look on making that available Yes, we can definitely make that okay Are there any other questions from all the persons or from citizens? I have a comment. I have mine on Almost down my drain in my base my student rate that is my whole mess my worst fear because i'll never be able to get it out of there But this thing has dropped downstairs. It's dropped down on cement I dropped a numerous times. It's really a hand thing and it's still working And two years for me to be using this and i'm not kidding you two years this july Sue and i we were like pilot program in our state department I mean the incentive is there and i've never been that committed to a program for two years And i will admit it's because of a little extra money But with the price of gas i have a $40 card i can go to target and splurge a little bit So it's really a great program. I love it. I really do Thank you all are there any more any more questions All the person kills him please if you'd like to Okay I just want to reiterate that the the program is Is being offered to us for one year So that is a very nice benefit as well And it is our the wellness committee's hope just as to reiterate what alderman gish has said that everyone who is eligible Will will get on board with this program because it's just a great way to get motivated to get active and to Earn a few uh, you know in earn that Health cash as well. So it's Absolutely. All right. Thank you so much ladies. Thank you very much And enjoy our beautiful city alder person gisha Thank you chairman buck. I just want to thank alder person kittleson I don't make every friday For work reasons. I get there about every other friday give or take She has been the driving force. I think the committee will all be nodding their heads Keeping us all motivated and keeping this thing moving. It's not easy to meet every week and be up And and the reason we have all this participation to this point I credit alder person kittleson for being the driving force and kicking us all in the button getting us involved So thank you Thank you. All right. Well, then that moves us on to agenda item number six, which is a recommendation That we as the committee of the whole can then refer back to ourselves as the common council on whether or not the City should engage and accept this this program It is item 540 from our last meeting and it is a resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials To enter into a letter of understanding with bargaining units for voluntary participation in the virgin health miles program Holder borne I was just going to make a motion to give a favorable favorable recommendation to the council There is a motion and a second on item 540 under discussion. All the person month of may or I was going to make the same motion, but thank you so much Anyone else? Okay, uh, please call the roll borne I guess it Hanna votes. Aye kittleson mire month of may or Ryan Vanderwill for asset right Longman Very good. Well, thank you all the person kittleson. Congratulations. We'll refer this back to ourselves and we can we can vote on it Stay tuned for more information. We'll be coming forward with Just exactly how we're going to be going forward with all of this. So we'll keep you going Next agenda item is the good of the order and I've received counsel from From the city attorney that we should tread lightly on this because it's a vague A vague description And so why I put this on the agenda is to give us a time as a body To have a conversation about how we do business if anybody chooses to this is on here There's no real other forum for us to talk to each other about how we're doing business So we need to stay away from any particular topic. We can't Gather information on a topic or discuss a topic that's not on the agenda But if for instance, we do want to talk about how frequently we meet if we want to talk about The nature of how we're doing business we can do that under under this forum So is there anything that the body would like to engage in as a discussion? Alderman reinflict Thank you mr. Chairman I had promised everyone I would not talk this evening to keep the meeting lively But I urge you to also be very careful with this agenda item If there is something specific that we would like to discuss Within this there's more broad forum that we have in this committee item The same format that we use puts something on the agenda for common counsel is apt If we would like to discuss number of times we meet Send that to an email to you you can put on the agenda discussion regarding times we meet It's still not as handy, but that there's specific reasons why the state requires us to be As specific as possible on the agenda so that that the public is aware of what exactly we're discussing so I agree tread lightly on this one as well But there is a way that we can do this and then simply email you Before the agenda comes out since we know by the end of this meeting when the next Meeting will be we have time to email you a topic that we would like to discuss that we simply add to the agenda Mr. President thank you. I have a non controversial topic This will be our first roar on the shore this weekend So I would encourage everybody to uh to get down to the south pier and participate It looks like our tourism department's done a great job In setting up a terrific weekend. I know that the merchants and the restaurants are all very excited So the roar on the shore alderman gissel will be showing off all three of his harley davidson tattoos Alderman ryan, please Thank you, mr. Chairman. I wanted to reiterate what uh what alderman What the heck is his name over there? Hannah Hannah Set about the roar on the shores The tourism department has put a lot of work into it. It's going to be a great event. There's going to be multiple bands Vendors there's going to be a brown informant booth set up which brown informant just happens to be the parent company of jack daniels They're going to have a stand down there that people can get Beverages of their choice. It's going to it'll be a big event. Hopefully we get some good weather for it But I do urge the general public to come down to the south pier and have some fun. That's what it's that's what it's all about It's to bring people into shabuagan Hopefully that haven't been here before and they'll like what they see and they'll come back Very good. Thank you Anything else under the good of the order? Very good. Thank you for that discussion The next item is to set the data in x community the whole meeting We've been referred a couple of documents that seem rather timely One that we need to dispose of has to do with the Pets on leashes in maywood and evergreen park and that the body needs to be able to discuss and Dispose of as we see fit and then also I'd like to add on to that a discussion of Pets in parks on leashes in general not related to maywood and evergreen That's item 4-47 from a previous meeting and then item 5-49 has to do with the residency requirements For employees of the city of shabuagan Brought to us by all the persons boron clioness heidemann and berhassel So those those are what I am proposing for the next committee the whole meeting and because of the schedule of the salary and grievance committee I proposed the date of june 23rd at 5 30 before that evening's common council meeting or excuse me finance committee meeting We would keep it to just those two topics and we would keep it to 80 minutes or less so we have time to get to the finance committee meeting That's my intention. I'd but I'd entertain any any thoughts on that issue if anybody wants to discuss Okay, great. Well, then that's when we'll set the meeting. We'll determine the location and send that out Anything else before this body? Mr. Vice president because of the because of the agenda item with the city residency being a very popular topic with constituents I would recommend that we hold that at a venue where the public can see it on television because We get a lot of questions about that issue at candidate forums when they're running for office And I would like to see it on a venue where the public can see the discussion Seems like hot topic. Let's say you Okay, then we'll we'll do it right here then we'll plan on doing it in the council chambers at 5 30 on june 23rd Okay, entertain them move to adjourn All in favor. Good evening. Thank you